Re: [Amsn-lang] Language variants

[Harry V. <htv...@zo...>]

Hi,
All we'd have got to do is search our langfiles for sentences that need a m=
ale=20
and a feminine version, and duplicate those keys, modifying one as the -m=20
version, and the other one as the -f version. Since aMSN would always look=
=20
for the -m or -f version first, and then for the key without suffix, a=20
langfile without -m and -f variants won't be a problem, and languages not=20
requiring m and f variants will not need to have duplicate keys.

Put it short: It's a wonderful idea!!!!

Harry

Op woensdag 24 november 2004 10:30, schreef luis:
> well, it doesn't exactly doubles the work...
>
> i guess we all could start from the existing langxx file and work for a -f
> version (ladies first...); as soon as we could come up with that, we could
> start to work on the -m file... assuming there are (in most of the cases)
> more then 1 person for each langxx, that could be arranjed so both langxx=
=2Dm
> and langxx-f could come up at the same time...
>
> . o O (can't wait for next version)
>
> : )
>
> luis
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hatredman" <hen...@te...>
> To: <ams...@li...>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Amsn-lang] Language variants
>
>
> In fact implementing support for language variants is easy, I think. But =
it
> will DOUBLE our translation efforts, because it would require an addition=
al
> file with all 631 keys repeated - on file for coloquial and another one f=
or
> the formal language.
>
> Huge work for us.
> I really don't mind doing it, but how much of you will have the time to?
>
> Having said that, I really think it would be a very very nice feature!
>
> Historiadores acreditam que,
>
> em Ter 23 Nov 2004 08:22, Pavel V=E1vra disse:
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:21:53 +0000
> >
> > Norberto Lopes <col...@ma...> wrote:
> > >     First of all I think Luis has a point there. It's the same way I =
do
> > > things when translating.
> > >     Well, it's a perpective of things. What I think you should do best
> > > is treat the user as USER. Not as male or female, but as user! Just
> >
> > USER sounds as male in czech. It is really simple to make it in English:
> > "You say" is independent. I have to use brackets to be correct for both
> > and
> > translation is less readable. Or I can talk to USER. Or I can tolk to
> > nobody (e.g. change "you must" to "it must be") and it sounds strange
> > sometimes. I think language variants can be quite nice feature.
> >
> > > think about the czech term for user and translate things to it. You
> > > have no way of knowing who is male and who is female. Unless your
> > > translation file is a bit of a fortune teller :)
> >
> > But ... I can select skin of aMSN in configuration. Why cannot I (read
> > "any
> > user") select language style?
> >
> > >     Maybe this was what Luis wanted to say but with a few more words =
:P
> >
> > Yes, I understand. But I want a bit enhanced functionality. It is not my
> > (own) problem. I can make more files and point the right symlink to any
> > of them. But I have no way to offer such files to all czech users.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >   Pavel
> >
> > > luis wrote:
> > > > hi pavel, hi everyone...
> > > >
> > > > i understand what you are trying to say, but i think you can solve
> > > > your problem by balancing between official and friendly and try to
> > > > stance both man and woman in you setences...
> > > >
> > > > .. for instance, i work for the portuguese translataion; i have
> > > > problem with certain setences that in english sound official but in
> > > > portuguese would sound friendly (and the other way two); so, what i
> > > > do is try to sound as much impersonal as possible in order to sound
> > > > friendly or official but only depending in the point of view of who=
's
> > > > reading the sentence (tricky, right?) - either way, and when is
> > > > really tough to decide, a choose friendly when it comes to it for t=
wo
> > > > reasons: a) it is common language and it is not (or should not be)
> > > > offensive to whoever think it is a sir and should be referenced that
> > > > way; b) i tend to be more simple and straightforward then official
> > > > and complicated...
> > > >
> > > > ... as for the man and woman part, i really don't know how you are
> > > > going to do that, because in portuguese the 'femenin' is made with a
> > > > simple "a" (in most of the cases) in the end of the word; so that i
> > > > think you have to figure out yourself...
> > > >
> > > > but, hey, what it is to be an amsn translatior if all it takes is a
> > > > walk in the park : )
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pavel V=E1vra" <plamen@bluetone=
=2Ecz>
> > > > To: <ams...@li...>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:07 AM
> > > > Subject: [Amsn-lang] Language variants
> > > >
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>  I have a question - probably to translation managers. I am working
> > > >> on czech translation now and during this work I think about varian=
ts
> > > >> of language file. If I want to be precise, I have to translate some
> > > >> things differently for user - man and user - woman. Second thing i=
s,
> > > >> that I can translate sentences more official or more friendly. It
> > > >> needs more than one language file corresponding to one language. Do
> > > >> you think about an extension to existing standard, e.g. change name
> > > >> convention of language file to lang<language><variant>? I don't
> > > >> think that I am just one thinking about variants of language files.
> > > >>
> > > >> Pavel
> > > >>
> > > >>
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