From: Álvaro J. I. <air...@gm...> - 2009-09-23 11:05:49
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I completely agree with you... couldn't have expressed it better. Maybe just shorter :p Greets. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Youness Alaoui <kak...@ka...> wrote: > Hi Cerina, > > I can assure you, I have absolutely no worries at all. It's simply that we > do not need any help, just as much as we don't feel like we need to help > another website without a substantial reason to do so... I don't really care > if BrotherSoft is number 1 or number 2 in the world, it's all the same to > me, we just have no benefit from this.. We're not a company, we don't do > this for profit or anything, so we don't have any incentive into making it > even more popular than it already is... we do it for fun, and having to do > some kind of cooperation with a third party, share revenue, where to put > that money, how to declare it to the taxes thingy, and worse, what to do > with that money, that doesn't really sound like fun... > I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but we already get over 35 000 > unique visitors per day, our latest release had seen almost 3 million > downloads for windows, 1.5 million for mac, and over 1 million for linux > (not counting those who installed it through their own distribution's > package repository system, which is the majority of our linux users) and we > keep getting 40 to 50 000 downloads every day... so I don't really see what > benefit it would give us to cooperate with us (including the fact that more > downloads equals more of my free time being wasted to help users with their > problems)... From my point of view, having a link to your website would be > an incredibly huge advantage to you and you only, which is why I feel that > there is no need for any kind of cooperation. > And to answer your question, yes, we could add mirror download to you on our > website, but it would only confuse the users since they'd get two choices > instead of one click and it downloads... And there is no reason for us to > have mirrors since sourceforge is already extremely competent and has a huge > number of mirrors and they all seem to work fine (never had any problems > with their mirroring system), so there's no reason to "fix" something that > isn't broken... > I hope this helped you understand my decision and I hope you feel no > animosity from our part and that you weren't offended by anything I said. > But anyways, like I said, you are free to distribute aMSN (for free) on your > website, we have no reason to prevent you from doing so, and we hope you can > get increased revenue by hosting our application without needing us to do > any kind of extra cooperation (less paperwork is always better, right? :-) ) > > Thanks anyways for your proposition! > KaKaRoTo > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Cerina <ce...@br...> wrote: >> >> HI KaKaRo, >> >> Thanks for your reply. Yes, there are thousands of website, but we are the >> NO. 2 download portal in the world. our English site has 20,000,000 unique >> visitors per month. >> I have a question: >> Since you have your own website, you can't add your own mirror to >> sourceforge's system, but you can add a mirror to the download page on your >> site, right? >> we do value the relationship, and hope we could make money both side. i >> believe this is a win-win cooperation. and i thought google revenue share is >> an other way of donation to your software. what are your worries? >> >> Best regards >> Cerina >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Youness Alaoui >> <kak...@ka...> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> Sorry but we are not interested in any kind of joint effort. We already >>> have our google ads on our website and we don't plan on promoting any kind >>> of software download website, there are thousands of website and we have no >>> interest in something like this. >>> We don't specifically have a download list and list of mirrors, we host >>> our project on SourceForge.net which already has a huge amount of mirrors >>> that deliver very fast speeds and we don't need any more mirrors, as much as >>> we can't add our own custom mirrors to sourceforge's system. >>> However, you can obviously host aMSN on your website (it's free to >>> distribute). >>> Thanks, >>> KaKaRoTo >>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Álvaro J. Iradier >>> <air...@us...> wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't know if we might be interested about this... >>>> >>>> Greets. >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Cerina <ce...@br...> >>>> Date: Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:24 AM >>>> Subject: aMSN_Business development >>>> To: air...@us... >>>> >>>> >>>> HI, >>>> >>>> My name is Cerina, BD Director of brotherosft.com >>>> We would like to host your software onto our servers. We hope our >>>> download link could be list as download mirror >>>> on your website. We could share the revenue of google ads generated >>>> from the download page with you. Or we could promote your software >>>> regarding our cooperation. Here is some info about revenue share and >>>> promotion: >>>> >>>> Revenue share: >>>> >>>> 1. We would split the share rate: the split rate is depending on the >>>> traffic. >>>> >>>> 2.the money you make depends on your user distribution. the ecpm: >>>> Europe is higher than the other areas. >>>> >>>> 3.Here we have some successful cases: Photoscape, Download Accelerator >>>> Plus >>>> >>>> Promotion: >>>> >>>> 1) 3 days Editor Pick or 5 days Recommended Download on our Homepage. >>>> >>>> 2) A fixed promotional position in the Maincategory page. >>>> >>>> 3) When it have key update, we will repromote it in the homepage. >>>> >>>> 4) English site now has 20,000,000 unique visitors per month, and >>>> generates 8,000,000 downloads per month. >>>> >>>> 5) We have 35,000 servers all over the world, users can enjoy the >>>> high speed of download no matter where they are. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cerina F | Marketing Assistant | Brothersoft.com >>>> MSN : cer...@ho... >>>> Skype: cerina_fang >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> (:===========================================:) >>>> Alvaro J. Iradier Muro - air...@gm... >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA >>>> is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your >>>> developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and >>>> stay >>>> ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register >>>> now! >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Amsn-devel mailing list >>>> Ams...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cerina F | BD Manager | Brothersoft.com >> MSN : cer...@ho... >> Skype: cerina_fang >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf > _______________________________________________ > Amsn-devel mailing list > Ams...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel > > -- (:===========================================:) Alvaro J. Iradier Muro - air...@gm... |