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From: Jan K. <kro...@ho...> - 2019-02-25 19:25:49
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Hello, I have create a turnkey project, how can I remove the turnkey so it will not start at start-up? Cheers, Jan |
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From: Erich W. <ew....@na...> - 2019-02-25 18:46:29
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Hello Jan, the example was done in some version of AmForth. Later Matthias has changed the name from tid to tcb (task control block, probably). So, yes your observation is correct, and you found the correct solution! Cheers, Erich Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel writes: > Hello, > > When I look to the example of multitasking I think something is wrong. This is the code at amforth.sourceforge.net <http://amforth.sourceforge.net/>: > > : starttasker > task_demo task-init > \ create TCB in RAM > start-demo > \ activate tasks job > onlytask > task_demo tcb>tid alsotask > multi > ; > > I think this is the right one > > : starttasker > task_demo task-init > \ create TCB in RAM > start-demo > \ activate tasks job > onlytask > task_demo tib>tcb alsotask \ <=============== > multi > ; > > > Cheers > Jan > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel -- May the Forth be with you ... |
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From: Jan K. <jan...@ic...> - 2019-02-25 17:43:30
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Hello, When I look to the example of multitasking I think something is wrong. This is the code at amforth.sourceforge.net <http://amforth.sourceforge.net/>: : starttasker task_demo task-init \ create TCB in RAM start-demo \ activate tasks job onlytask task_demo tcb>tid alsotask multi ; I think this is the right one : starttasker task_demo task-init \ create TCB in RAM start-demo \ activate tasks job onlytask task_demo tib>tcb alsotask \ <=============== multi ; Cheers Jan |
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From: Jan K. <kro...@ho...> - 2019-02-25 14:20:32
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Tristan, What do you mean with “and a small sck period” Can you publish your code as an example how you have read your gps? With kindly regards, Jan Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 17 feb. 2019 om 18:19 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > > Jan, > >> Loading my Mega with forth was a succes. > > Very pleased it worked. > >> After loading my fix amount of screens, witch are the same as on the >> Arduino it took significant more time to save and load the new >> image. Is this by the structure of the Mega? > > Not an answer to your question, but it seemed to take longer than I > wished! If you load atmega2560.frt, which is twice the size of > atmega328p.frt, it will take longer. > > I ended up deciding what my base set of .frt files would be, loading > them via amshell once, then used avrdude to write an image of the > flash and eeprom to my pc. I would then write these instead to the > atmega2560 when I did something such that the atmega2560 was no longer > talking to me. Despite the substantial size of the files, it seemed > quicker to burn them with avrdude (and a small sck period) than burn > atmega2560.hex, atmega2560.eep.hex, and then load the base set of .frt > with amshell. > > Best wishes, > Tristan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel |
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From: Tristan W. <ho...@tj...> - 2019-02-17 17:20:19
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Jan, > Loading my Mega with forth was a succes. Very pleased it worked. > After loading my fix amount of screens, witch are the same as on the > Arduino it took significant more time to save and load the new > image. Is this by the structure of the Mega? Not an answer to your question, but it seemed to take longer than I wished! If you load atmega2560.frt, which is twice the size of atmega328p.frt, it will take longer. I ended up deciding what my base set of .frt files would be, loading them via amshell once, then used avrdude to write an image of the flash and eeprom to my pc. I would then write these instead to the atmega2560 when I did something such that the atmega2560 was no longer talking to me. Despite the substantial size of the files, it seemed quicker to burn them with avrdude (and a small sck period) than burn atmega2560.hex, atmega2560.eep.hex, and then load the base set of .frt with amshell. Best wishes, Tristan |
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From: Jan K. <jan...@ic...> - 2019-02-17 14:29:47
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Tristan, Loading my Mega with forth was a succes. After loading my fix amount of screens, witch are the same as on the Arduino it took significant more time to save and load the new image. Is this by the structure of the Mega? So far no finding thats worry my. It runs as it should! Great project from your side. Will maybe a fix item into the repository of amforth. With kindly regards, Jan > Op 16 feb. 2019, om 22:07 heeft Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel <amf...@li...> het volgende geschreven: > > Tristian, > > Thank, I will start soon to explore this version. > Let you know my findings. > > With kindly regars, > > Jan > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > >> Op 16 feb. 2019 om 21:27 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: >> >> Jan, >> >> My prebuilt hex files for the ARDUINO MEGA 2560 are linked below >> >> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.16/ >> >> Hope this helps and interested to hear how you get on. >> >> Best wishes, >> Tristan >> >> >> >>> On 15Feb19 16:47, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: >>> Tristan, >>> >>> First thanks for the quick response. >>> Yes I found out the hex file wasn’t working after flashing to the Mega. >>> My flasher is from Pololu and is working great on my macbook pro and avrdude. >>> >>> Is there an possibility to get the hex files from you? >>> I’m not a star in compiling this kind of things without a good portion of help. >>> >>> My email is krom1109 at hotmail dot com >>> >>> With kindly regards, >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> >>> >>>> Op 15 feb. 2019, om 16:38 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: >>>> >>>> Jan, >>>> >>>> A number of things. >>>> >>>> The hex file you have found may not be one for the Arduino >>>> Mega2560. If I remember correctly, the distribution has an appl folder >>>> for the atmega2561 and the configuration assembler file >>>> >>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/amforth/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/appl/atmega2561/atmega256.asm >>>> >>>> suggests that it was built for an ATmega2561 with an 14.745600MHz crystal and uart1 >>>> hosting the AmForth interpreter. >>>> >>>> I adjusted the AmForth make system (on OSX) to build a custom hex file >>>> for the Arduino Mega2560 which uses ATmega2560 chip and a 16MHz >>>> crystal. I also put the AmForth interpreter on uart0. The AmForth >>>> build system is one of its many strengths, though getting it to work >>>> on OS X does require a few extra steps. >>>> >>>> I used these fuse values for my Arduino Mega2560 >>>> >>>>> avrdude: safemode: Fuses OK (E:FF, H:99, L:CE) >>>> >>>> Finally, what hex programmer you use may be important with the Mega2560. I >>>> used an avrisp2 compatible programmer and had no problems. However, I can >>>> confirm that my usbtiny programmer couldn't program my Mega2560 successfully. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Tristan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 15Feb19 14:20, Jan Kromhout wrote: >>>>> Tristan, >>>>> >>>>> Found the hex files for the Mega, but don’t found the fuse values. >>>>> Please can you help me out with these. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Jan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Op 15 feb. 2019, om 13:21 heeft Jan Kromhout <kro...@ho...> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>> >>>>>> Tristan, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank. Where to find the hex files for the mega, and what fuse settings you have used. >>>>>> I wont to play with it this evening. Verry exciting how it works. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jan >>>>>> >>>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 12:45 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jan, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a link "source" in the text, but below is the url from the >>>>>>> link. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/files/source/uart1.forth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tristan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 15Feb19 11:15, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Tristan, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How can I acces the source, the link shows only an overview! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 09:21 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've linked (below) some AmForth words I've written to help me use the >>>>>>>>> second hardware serial port on an AVR atmega mcu, should there be one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.01/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tristan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>>>>>>> Amf...@li... >>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>>>>>> Amf...@li... >>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>>>>> Amf...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>>>> Amf...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>>> Amf...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>> Amf...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>> Amf...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >> Amf...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel |
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From: Jan K. <jan...@ic...> - 2019-02-16 21:07:46
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Tristian, Thank, I will start soon to explore this version. Let you know my findings. With kindly regars, Jan Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 16 feb. 2019 om 21:27 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > > Jan, > > My prebuilt hex files for the ARDUINO MEGA 2560 are linked below > > https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.16/ > > Hope this helps and interested to hear how you get on. > > Best wishes, > Tristan > > > >> On 15Feb19 16:47, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: >> Tristan, >> >> First thanks for the quick response. >> Yes I found out the hex file wasn’t working after flashing to the Mega. >> My flasher is from Pololu and is working great on my macbook pro and avrdude. >> >> Is there an possibility to get the hex files from you? >> I’m not a star in compiling this kind of things without a good portion of help. >> >> My email is krom1109 at hotmail dot com >> >> With kindly regards, >> >> Jan >> >> >> >>> Op 15 feb. 2019, om 16:38 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> Jan, >>> >>> A number of things. >>> >>> The hex file you have found may not be one for the Arduino >>> Mega2560. If I remember correctly, the distribution has an appl folder >>> for the atmega2561 and the configuration assembler file >>> >>> https://sourceforge.net/p/amforth/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/appl/atmega2561/atmega256.asm >>> >>> suggests that it was built for an ATmega2561 with an 14.745600MHz crystal and uart1 >>> hosting the AmForth interpreter. >>> >>> I adjusted the AmForth make system (on OSX) to build a custom hex file >>> for the Arduino Mega2560 which uses ATmega2560 chip and a 16MHz >>> crystal. I also put the AmForth interpreter on uart0. The AmForth >>> build system is one of its many strengths, though getting it to work >>> on OS X does require a few extra steps. >>> >>> I used these fuse values for my Arduino Mega2560 >>> >>>> avrdude: safemode: Fuses OK (E:FF, H:99, L:CE) >>> >>> Finally, what hex programmer you use may be important with the Mega2560. I >>> used an avrisp2 compatible programmer and had no problems. However, I can >>> confirm that my usbtiny programmer couldn't program my Mega2560 successfully. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Tristan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 15Feb19 14:20, Jan Kromhout wrote: >>>> Tristan, >>>> >>>> Found the hex files for the Mega, but don’t found the fuse values. >>>> Please can you help me out with these. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Jan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Op 15 feb. 2019, om 13:21 heeft Jan Kromhout <kro...@ho...> het volgende geschreven: >>>>> >>>>> Tristan, >>>>> >>>>> Thank. Where to find the hex files for the mega, and what fuse settings you have used. >>>>> I wont to play with it this evening. Verry exciting how it works. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Jan >>>>> >>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>>>> >>>>>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 12:45 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>> >>>>>> Jan, >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a link "source" in the text, but below is the url from the >>>>>> link. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/files/source/uart1.forth >>>>>> >>>>>> Tristan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 15Feb19 11:15, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Tristan, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How can I acces the source, the link shows only an overview! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 09:21 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've linked (below) some AmForth words I've written to help me use the >>>>>>>> second hardware serial port on an AVR atmega mcu, should there be one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.01/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tristan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>>>>>> Amf...@li... >>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>>>>> Amf...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>>>> Amf...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>>> Amf...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>> Amf...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>> Amf...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >> Amf...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel |
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From: Tristan W. <ho...@tj...> - 2019-02-16 20:27:34
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Jan, My prebuilt hex files for the ARDUINO MEGA 2560 are linked below https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.16/ Hope this helps and interested to hear how you get on. Best wishes, Tristan On 15Feb19 16:47, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: > Tristan, > > First thanks for the quick response. > Yes I found out the hex file wasn’t working after flashing to the Mega. > My flasher is from Pololu and is working great on my macbook pro and avrdude. > > Is there an possibility to get the hex files from you? > I’m not a star in compiling this kind of things without a good portion of help. > > My email is krom1109 at hotmail dot com > > With kindly regards, > > Jan > > > > > Op 15 feb. 2019, om 16:38 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > > > > Jan, > > > > A number of things. > > > > The hex file you have found may not be one for the Arduino > > Mega2560. If I remember correctly, the distribution has an appl folder > > for the atmega2561 and the configuration assembler file > > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/amforth/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/appl/atmega2561/atmega256.asm > > > > suggests that it was built for an ATmega2561 with an 14.745600MHz crystal and uart1 > > hosting the AmForth interpreter. > > > > I adjusted the AmForth make system (on OSX) to build a custom hex file > > for the Arduino Mega2560 which uses ATmega2560 chip and a 16MHz > > crystal. I also put the AmForth interpreter on uart0. The AmForth > > build system is one of its many strengths, though getting it to work > > on OS X does require a few extra steps. > > > > I used these fuse values for my Arduino Mega2560 > > > >> avrdude: safemode: Fuses OK (E:FF, H:99, L:CE) > > > > Finally, what hex programmer you use may be important with the Mega2560. I > > used an avrisp2 compatible programmer and had no problems. However, I can > > confirm that my usbtiny programmer couldn't program my Mega2560 successfully. > > > > Best wishes, > > Tristan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 15Feb19 14:20, Jan Kromhout wrote: > >> Tristan, > >> > >> Found the hex files for the Mega, but don’t found the fuse values. > >> Please can you help me out with these. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Jan > >> > >> > >> > >>> Op 15 feb. 2019, om 13:21 heeft Jan Kromhout <kro...@ho...> het volgende geschreven: > >>> > >>> Tristan, > >>> > >>> Thank. Where to find the hex files for the mega, and what fuse settings you have used. > >>> I wont to play with it this evening. Verry exciting how it works. > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Jan > >>> > >>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > >>> > >>>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 12:45 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > >>>> > >>>> Jan, > >>>> > >>>> There is a link "source" in the text, but below is the url from the > >>>> link. > >>>> > >>>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/files/source/uart1.forth > >>>> > >>>> Tristan > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 15Feb19 11:15, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: > >>>>> Hi Tristan, > >>>>> > >>>>> How can I acces the source, the link shows only an overview! > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> > >>>>> Jan > >>>>> > >>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > >>>>> > >>>>>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 09:21 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I've linked (below) some AmForth words I've written to help me use the > >>>>>> second hardware serial port on an AVR atmega mcu, should there be one. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.01/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tristan > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >>>>>> Amf...@li... > >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >>>>> Amf...@li... > >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >>>> Amf...@li... > >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >>> Amf...@li... > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >> Amf...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > > Amf...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel |
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From: Matthias T. <mt...@we...> - 2019-02-16 18:41:28
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Am Samstag, den 16.02.2019, 13:13 +0000 schrieb Tristan Williams: > Matthias, > > Do you have any objection to me putting up a link to my prebuilt hex > files for the ARDUINO MEGA 2560? No. Simon^wGPL says... ;) Matthias |
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From: Matthias T. <mt...@we...> - 2019-02-16 18:39:39
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Am Freitag, den 15.02.2019, 08:21 +0000 schrieb Tristan Williams: > > I've linked (below) some AmForth words I've written to help me use > the > second hardware serial port on an AVR atmega mcu, should there be > one. Really nice. Good work Matthias |
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From: Matthias T. <mt...@we...> - 2019-02-16 18:38:58
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Am Samstag, den 16.02.2019, 17:55 +0100 schrieb f.zelders--- via
Amforth-devel:
> Hello forth-professionals and fellow forth enthousiasts.
>
> I created a word that converts a positive double-precision number to
> an 8 character string like this:
>
> : dpNumberToString ( d -- address count )
> <# # # # # # # # # #> ;
> This works fine for positive numbers.
> However I want to convert negative double-precision numbers too.
Here's the code for d.r
: d.r ( d n -- )
>r swap over dabs <# #s rot sign #> r> over - spaces type
the essential part is that the "swap over dabs" creates a signed
single cell number (value is not relevant) with the same sign as
the double cell number and the double number is converted to a
positive number (dabs). Inside the <# #> block, sign uses the
signed number (again, numeric value irrelevant) to put the
- (or nothing) in the picture numeric buffer (pic).
Matthias
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From: Erich W. <ew....@na...> - 2019-02-16 17:40:07
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Hello Fred, f.zelders--- via Amforth-devel writes: > I created a word that converts a positive double-precision number to an 8 character string like this: > > : dpNumberToString ( d -- address count ) > <# # # # # # # # # #> ; > This works fine for positive numbers. > However I want to convert negative double-precision numbers too. > > Any idea how I can make that work? Check out the definitions of "d." "d.r". common/words/d-dot.asm common/words/d-dot-r.asm At the end of these files there is equivalent forth code. Also be sure to check out Leo Brodie's "Starting Forth", chapter 7 on numbers: http://home.iae.nl/users/mhx/sf.html Cheers, Erich -- May the Forth be with you ... |
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From: <f.z...@me...> - 2019-02-16 16:55:56
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Hello forth-professionals and fellow forth enthousiasts. I created a word that converts a positive double-precision number to an 8 character string like this: : dpNumberToString ( d -- address count ) <# # # # # # # # # #> ; This works fine for positive numbers. However I want to convert negative double-precision numbers too. Any idea how I can make that work? Groeten uit Nederland! Fred |
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From: Tristan W. <ho...@tj...> - 2019-02-16 13:26:02
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Matthias, Do you have any objection to me putting up a link to my prebuilt hex files for the ARDUINO MEGA 2560? Best wishes, Tristan On 15Feb19 16:47, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: > Tristan, > > First thanks for the quick response. > Yes I found out the hex file wasn’t working after flashing to the Mega. > My flasher is from Pololu and is working great on my macbook pro and avrdude. > > Is there an possibility to get the hex files from you? > I’m not a star in compiling this kind of things without a good portion of help. > > My email is krom1109 at hotmail dot com > > With kindly regards, > > Jan > > > > > Op 15 feb. 2019, om 16:38 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > > > > Jan, > > > > A number of things. > > > > The hex file you have found may not be one for the Arduino > > Mega2560. If I remember correctly, the distribution has an appl folder > > for the atmega2561 and the configuration assembler file > > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/amforth/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/appl/atmega2561/atmega256.asm > > > > suggests that it was built for an ATmega2561 with an 14.745600MHz crystal and uart1 > > hosting the AmForth interpreter. > > > > I adjusted the AmForth make system (on OSX) to build a custom hex file > > for the Arduino Mega2560 which uses ATmega2560 chip and a 16MHz > > crystal. I also put the AmForth interpreter on uart0. The AmForth > > build system is one of its many strengths, though getting it to work > > on OS X does require a few extra steps. > > > > I used these fuse values for my Arduino Mega2560 > > > >> avrdude: safemode: Fuses OK (E:FF, H:99, L:CE) > > > > Finally, what hex programmer you use may be important with the Mega2560. I > > used an avrisp2 compatible programmer and had no problems. However, I can > > confirm that my usbtiny programmer couldn't program my Mega2560 successfully. > > > > Best wishes, > > Tristan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 15Feb19 14:20, Jan Kromhout wrote: > >> Tristan, > >> > >> Found the hex files for the Mega, but don’t found the fuse values. > >> Please can you help me out with these. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Jan > >> > >> > >> > >>> Op 15 feb. 2019, om 13:21 heeft Jan Kromhout <kro...@ho...> het volgende geschreven: > >>> > >>> Tristan, > >>> > >>> Thank. Where to find the hex files for the mega, and what fuse settings you have used. > >>> I wont to play with it this evening. Verry exciting how it works. > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Jan > >>> > >>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > >>> > >>>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 12:45 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > >>>> > >>>> Jan, > >>>> > >>>> There is a link "source" in the text, but below is the url from the > >>>> link. > >>>> > >>>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/files/source/uart1.forth > >>>> > >>>> Tristan > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 15Feb19 11:15, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: > >>>>> Hi Tristan, > >>>>> > >>>>> How can I acces the source, the link shows only an overview! > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> > >>>>> Jan > >>>>> > >>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > >>>>> > >>>>>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 09:21 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I've linked (below) some AmForth words I've written to help me use the > >>>>>> second hardware serial port on an AVR atmega mcu, should there be one. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.01/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tristan > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >>>>>> Amf...@li... > >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >>>>> Amf...@li... > >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >>>> Amf...@li... > >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >>> Amf...@li... > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >> Amf...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > > Amf...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel |
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From: Jan K. <jan...@ic...> - 2019-02-15 15:48:02
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Tristan, First thanks for the quick response. Yes I found out the hex file wasn’t working after flashing to the Mega. My flasher is from Pololu and is working great on my macbook pro and avrdude. Is there an possibility to get the hex files from you? I’m not a star in compiling this kind of things without a good portion of help. My email is krom1109 at hotmail dot com With kindly regards, Jan > Op 15 feb. 2019, om 16:38 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > > Jan, > > A number of things. > > The hex file you have found may not be one for the Arduino > Mega2560. If I remember correctly, the distribution has an appl folder > for the atmega2561 and the configuration assembler file > > https://sourceforge.net/p/amforth/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/appl/atmega2561/atmega256.asm > > suggests that it was built for an ATmega2561 with an 14.745600MHz crystal and uart1 > hosting the AmForth interpreter. > > I adjusted the AmForth make system (on OSX) to build a custom hex file > for the Arduino Mega2560 which uses ATmega2560 chip and a 16MHz > crystal. I also put the AmForth interpreter on uart0. The AmForth > build system is one of its many strengths, though getting it to work > on OS X does require a few extra steps. > > I used these fuse values for my Arduino Mega2560 > >> avrdude: safemode: Fuses OK (E:FF, H:99, L:CE) > > Finally, what hex programmer you use may be important with the Mega2560. I > used an avrisp2 compatible programmer and had no problems. However, I can > confirm that my usbtiny programmer couldn't program my Mega2560 successfully. > > Best wishes, > Tristan > > > > > > > > > On 15Feb19 14:20, Jan Kromhout wrote: >> Tristan, >> >> Found the hex files for the Mega, but don’t found the fuse values. >> Please can you help me out with these. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jan >> >> >> >>> Op 15 feb. 2019, om 13:21 heeft Jan Kromhout <kro...@ho...> het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> Tristan, >>> >>> Thank. Where to find the hex files for the mega, and what fuse settings you have used. >>> I wont to play with it this evening. Verry exciting how it works. >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>> >>>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 12:45 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: >>>> >>>> Jan, >>>> >>>> There is a link "source" in the text, but below is the url from the >>>> link. >>>> >>>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/files/source/uart1.forth >>>> >>>> Tristan >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 15Feb19 11:15, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: >>>>> Hi Tristan, >>>>> >>>>> How can I acces the source, the link shows only an overview! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Jan >>>>> >>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>>>> >>>>>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 09:21 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've linked (below) some AmForth words I've written to help me use the >>>>>> second hardware serial port on an AVR atmega mcu, should there be one. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.01/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tristan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>>>> Amf...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>>> Amf...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>> Amf...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>> Amf...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >> Amf...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel |
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From: Tristan W. <ho...@tj...> - 2019-02-15 15:39:08
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Jan, A number of things. The hex file you have found may not be one for the Arduino Mega2560. If I remember correctly, the distribution has an appl folder for the atmega2561 and the configuration assembler file https://sourceforge.net/p/amforth/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/appl/atmega2561/atmega256.asm suggests that it was built for an ATmega2561 with an 14.745600MHz crystal and uart1 hosting the AmForth interpreter. I adjusted the AmForth make system (on OSX) to build a custom hex file for the Arduino Mega2560 which uses ATmega2560 chip and a 16MHz crystal. I also put the AmForth interpreter on uart0. The AmForth build system is one of its many strengths, though getting it to work on OS X does require a few extra steps. I used these fuse values for my Arduino Mega2560 > avrdude: safemode: Fuses OK (E:FF, H:99, L:CE) Finally, what hex programmer you use may be important with the Mega2560. I used an avrisp2 compatible programmer and had no problems. However, I can confirm that my usbtiny programmer couldn't program my Mega2560 successfully. Best wishes, Tristan On 15Feb19 14:20, Jan Kromhout wrote: > Tristan, > > Found the hex files for the Mega, but don’t found the fuse values. > Please can you help me out with these. > > Cheers, > > Jan > > > > > Op 15 feb. 2019, om 13:21 heeft Jan Kromhout <kro...@ho...> het volgende geschreven: > > > > Tristan, > > > > Thank. Where to find the hex files for the mega, and what fuse settings you have used. > > I wont to play with it this evening. Verry exciting how it works. > > Cheers, > > > > Jan > > > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > > >> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 12:45 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > >> > >> Jan, > >> > >> There is a link "source" in the text, but below is the url from the > >> link. > >> > >> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/files/source/uart1.forth > >> > >> Tristan > >> > >> > >>> On 15Feb19 11:15, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: > >>> Hi Tristan, > >>> > >>> How can I acces the source, the link shows only an overview! > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Jan > >>> > >>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > >>> > >>>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 09:21 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I've linked (below) some AmForth words I've written to help me use the > >>>> second hardware serial port on an AVR atmega mcu, should there be one. > >>>> > >>>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.01/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Tristan > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >>>> Amf...@li... > >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >>> Amf...@li... > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > >> Amf...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > > Amf...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel |
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From: Jan K. <kro...@ho...> - 2019-02-15 14:20:38
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Tristan, Found the hex files for the Mega, but don’t found the fuse values. Please can you help me out with these. Cheers, Jan > Op 15 feb. 2019, om 13:21 heeft Jan Kromhout <kro...@ho...> het volgende geschreven: > > Tristan, > > Thank. Where to find the hex files for the mega, and what fuse settings you have used. > I wont to play with it this evening. Verry exciting how it works. > Cheers, > > Jan > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > >> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 12:45 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: >> >> Jan, >> >> There is a link "source" in the text, but below is the url from the >> link. >> >> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/files/source/uart1.forth >> >> Tristan >> >> >>> On 15Feb19 11:15, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: >>> Hi Tristan, >>> >>> How can I acces the source, the link shows only an overview! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>> >>>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 09:21 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I've linked (below) some AmForth words I've written to help me use the >>>> second hardware serial port on an AVR atmega mcu, should there be one. >>>> >>>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.01/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Tristan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>>> Amf...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>> Amf...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >> Amf...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel |
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From: Jan K. <kro...@ho...> - 2019-02-15 12:21:51
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Tristan, Thank. Where to find the hex files for the mega, and what fuse settings you have used. I wont to play with it this evening. Verry exciting how it works. Cheers, Jan Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 15 feb. 2019 om 12:45 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > > Jan, > > There is a link "source" in the text, but below is the url from the > link. > > https://www.mostlymostly.uk/files/source/uart1.forth > > Tristan > > >> On 15Feb19 11:15, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: >> Hi Tristan, >> >> How can I acces the source, the link shows only an overview! >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jan >> >> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >> >>> Op 15 feb. 2019 om 09:21 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> >>> >>> I've linked (below) some AmForth words I've written to help me use the >>> second hardware serial port on an AVR atmega mcu, should there be one. >>> >>> https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.01/ >>> >>> >>> Tristan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >>> Amf...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >> Amf...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel |
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From: Tristan W. <ho...@tj...> - 2019-02-15 11:45:57
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Jan, There is a link "source" in the text, but below is the url from the link. https://www.mostlymostly.uk/files/source/uart1.forth Tristan On 15Feb19 11:15, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: > Hi Tristan, > > How can I acces the source, the link shows only an overview! > > Cheers, > > Jan > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > > Op 15 feb. 2019 om 09:21 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > > > > > > > > I've linked (below) some AmForth words I've written to help me use the > > second hardware serial port on an AVR atmega mcu, should there be one. > > > > https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.01/ > > > > > > Tristan > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > > Amf...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > |
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From: Jan K. <jan...@ic...> - 2019-02-15 10:16:05
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Hi Tristan, How can I acces the source, the link shows only an overview! Cheers, Jan Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 15 feb. 2019 om 09:21 heeft Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> het volgende geschreven: > > > > I've linked (below) some AmForth words I've written to help me use the > second hardware serial port on an AVR atmega mcu, should there be one. > > https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.01/ > > > Tristan > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel |
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From: Tristan W. <ho...@tj...> - 2019-02-15 08:21:56
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I've linked (below) some AmForth words I've written to help me use the second hardware serial port on an AVR atmega mcu, should there be one. https://www.mostlymostly.uk/post/2019.02.01/ Tristan |
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From: Tristan W. <ho...@tj...> - 2019-01-28 00:24:59
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On 24Jan19 20:25, Erich Wälde wrote: > atmega644p has 2 serial interfaces. It is the same package as > the 328p. I have toyed around with two serial interfaces, but > with not much success. That was a problem of how to utilize this > second uart, more than anything else. I'm sure, it can work. In an attempt to cross this off my would-like-todo list, I now have AmForth 6.8[1] on an Arduino Mega 2560 with the interpreter hosted on usart0 and second working usart, usart1 configured for 9600 8N1. Incoming and outgoing bytes are buffered, with those buffers being serviced by the usart1 RX and UDRE interrupts. I've been using multitask.frt to create background tasks to process the buffered RX stream and then act on it in some way. For devices that send small amounts of serial data, slowly, every so often, it might be a usable approach. Best wishes, Tristan [1] I think the prompt still says 6.7 (via env-forthversion.asm). |
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From: Erich W. <ew....@na...> - 2019-01-24 20:34:01
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Hello, Peter C. Hauser writes: > If you want hardware serial you cannot really use the Arduino > Uno as the ATmega328 microcontroller only has one UART, which > is used by Forth for its communication. atmega644p has 2 serial interfaces. It is the same package as the 328p. I have toyed around with two serial interfaces, but with not much success. That was a problem of how to utilize this second uart, more than anything else. I'm sure, it can work. Cheers, Erich |
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From: Peter C. H. <pet...@un...> - 2019-01-24 18:48:27
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Jan and Tristan, If you want hardware serial you cannot really use the Arduino Uno as the ATmega328 microcontroller only has one UART, which is used by Forth for its communication. The ATmega2560 on the current Arduino Mega board has 2 spare UARTs. However, one might have to first build the Forth kernel for it. The AmForth package comes with a hex file for the old Arduino Mega board (fitted with a ATmega1280) and that might not be fully compatible with the ATmega2560... With regards Peter > On 24 Jan 2019, at 18:10, Tristan Williams <ho...@tj...> wrote: > > Hi Jan, > > Not as far as I know. However, the mailing list archive > > https://sourceforge.net/p/amforth/mailman/amforth-devel/ > > is worth searching (bitbang) and there are some messages relating to > your particular question. It would certainly be a nice feature to > have, perhaps along with being able to access a second hardware uart > from within AmForth. The latter has been on my would-like-todo list > for a while. If anyone has achieved this I would be grateful for any > pointers. > > Kind regards, > > Tristan > > On 24Jan19 13:45, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Is soft-serial implemented in amForth. >> I wont to connect a serial device to the arduino. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jan >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >> Amf...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel |
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From: Tristan W. <ho...@tj...> - 2019-01-24 17:10:21
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Hi Jan, Not as far as I know. However, the mailing list archive https://sourceforge.net/p/amforth/mailman/amforth-devel/ is worth searching (bitbang) and there are some messages relating to your particular question. It would certainly be a nice feature to have, perhaps along with being able to access a second hardware uart from within AmForth. The latter has been on my would-like-todo list for a while. If anyone has achieved this I would be grateful for any pointers. Kind regards, Tristan On 24Jan19 13:45, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote: > Hello, > > Is soft-serial implemented in amForth. > I wont to connect a serial device to the arduino. > > Cheers, > > Jan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > |
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