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From: Jean-Michel <jm...@fr...> - 2007-02-01 14:33:51
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Dear friends, I would like to configure the Terratec Aureon 5.1 USB audio interface. Presently, I only can see anolog input settings in Alsamixer. (Master, Line-In, Microphone, Line-In 1 and 2 switch, etc ...) But mixer and digital input/output are missing. Also, the interface is not recognised by Alsaconf. The Terratec Aureon 5.1 USB is not in the sound card database. How can I add digital input/output, mixer and entry in the sound card database? Can anyone help me or is there a web page on the wiki? Kind regards, Jean-Michel |
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From: Frank B. <fb...@fo...> - 2007-02-01 16:40:37
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Hallo, Jean-Michel Pouré hat gesagt: // Jean-Michel Pouré wrote: > I would like to configure the Terratec Aureon 5.1 USB audio interface. > > Presently, I only can see anolog input settings in Alsamixer. > (Master, Line-In, Microphone, Line-In 1 and 2 switch, etc ...) > > But mixer and digital input/output are missing. THe Aureon doesn't have separate mixer controls for digital in/out. Alsamixer shows is all there is on the card. Some cards don't have a mixer at all. > Also, the interface is not recognised by Alsaconf. > The Terratec Aureon 5.1 USB is not in the sound card database. > > How can I add digital input/output, mixer and entry in the sound card > database? You don't need to run Alsaconf for USB-cards normally. They are activated by hotplug/udev or whatever handles USB devices on your machine. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ |
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From: Jean-Michel <jm...@fr...> - 2007-02-01 17:43:11
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> THe Aureon doesn't have separate mixer controls for digital in/out. > Alsamixer shows is all there is on the card. Some cards don't have a > mixer at all. You are right. I think I understand. There are two input switch in Alsa. One may be for analog input, the other for digital input. > You don't need to run Alsaconf for USB-cards normally. They are > activated by hotplug/udev or whatever handles USB devices on your > machine. It makes sense. I am waiting for a second Aureon card. Will I be able to mix the sound of both cards OR will I need Jack? Also, how do I control the output sound? For example phones sound? Kind regards, Jean-Michel |
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From: Frank B. <fb...@fo...> - 2007-02-01 20:13:51
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Hallo, Jean-Michel Pouré hat gesagt: // Jean-Michel Pouré wrote: > > THe Aureon doesn't have separate mixer controls for digital in/out. > > Alsamixer shows is all there is on the card. Some cards don't have a > > mixer at all. > > You are right. I think I understand. > There are two input switch in Alsa. > One may be for analog input, the other for digital input. I've never used the digital connectors on my Aureon as I don't have any digital gear, but I think they just duplicate what's on the analog channels. > > You don't need to run Alsaconf for USB-cards normally. They are > > activated by hotplug/udev or whatever handles USB devices on your > > machine. > > It makes sense. I am waiting for a second Aureon card. Will I be able to > mix the sound of both cards OR will I need Jack? What do you meant with mixing both cards? You normally cannot use two cards as one multichannel card, as they will drift out of sync, and you definitely cannot do this with USB cards. You could use netjack, though. > Also, how do I control the output sound? For example phones sound? Most applications have their own volume control. I generally set soundcard levels to the maximum possible without distortions, then do further volume regulation inside the software I'm using. (I hate it when some mp3-playing software tries to mess with my finely tuned mixer settings.) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ |
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From: Jean-Michel <jm...@fr...> - 2007-02-02 06:48:51
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Thank you for your answers. To more precise, there is no : * headphone level * front level * rear level Please note that it is the new Terratec Oreon 5.1 USB MK-2. Is this a bug or do I miss something in setting-up Alsa? Kind regards, Jean-Michel |
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From: Frank B. <fb...@fo...> - 2007-02-02 18:16:41
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Hallo, Jean-Michel Pouré hat gesagt: // Jean-Michel Pouré wrote: > Thank you for your answers. > > To more precise, there is no : > * headphone level > * front level > * rear level > > Please note that it is the new Terratec Oreon 5.1 USB MK-2. > > Is this a bug or do I miss something in setting-up Alsa? I doubt that ALSA is buggy here, the card just doesn't have more. This is not unusual at all. As I wrote, many cards, especially USB cards, don't have any mixer controls at all. Although I have the first verison of the Aureon, I believe not much has changed with the card besides the look. Here are my mixer controls: $ amixer controls --card 1 numid=13,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Capture Source' numid=10,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Capture Switch' numid=12,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Capture Switch',index=1 numid=11,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Capture Volume' numid=1,iface=MIXER,name='Mic Playback Switch' numid=2,iface=MIXER,name='Mic Playback Volume' numid=7,iface=MIXER,name='Mic Capture Switch' numid=8,iface=MIXER,name='Mic Capture Volume' numid=9,iface=MIXER,name='Auto Gain Control' numid=3,iface=MIXER,name='Speaker Playback Switch' numid=5,iface=MIXER,name='Speaker Playback Switch',index=1 numid=4,iface=MIXER,name='Speaker Playback Volume' numid=6,iface=MIXER,name='Speaker Playback Volume',index=1 Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ |
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From: flocchini <flo...@fa...> - 2007-02-02 18:32:50
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Alle 19:16, venerd=EC 2 febbraio 2007, Frank Barknecht ha scritto: > I doubt that ALSA is buggy here, the card just doesn't have more. This > is not unusual at all. As I wrote, many cards, especially USB cards, > don't have any mixer controls at all. > > Although I have the first verison of the Aureon, I believe not much > has changed with the card besides the look. > > Here are my mixer controls: > > $ amixer controls --card 1 > numid=3D13,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'PCM Capture Source' > numid=3D10,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'PCM Capture Switch' > numid=3D12,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'PCM Capture Switch',index=3D1 > numid=3D11,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'PCM Capture Volume' > numid=3D1,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Mic Playback Switch' > numid=3D2,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Mic Playback Volume' > numid=3D7,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Mic Capture Switch' > numid=3D8,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Mic Capture Volume' > numid=3D9,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Auto Gain Control' > numid=3D3,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Speaker Playback Switch' > numid=3D5,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Speaker Playback Switch',index=3D1 > numid=3D4,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Speaker Playback Volume' > numid=3D6,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Speaker Playback Volume',index=3D1 > > Ciao and why then in windows are there many controls? Software tweaking? I'm in = the=20 same situation with my usb sound blaster live 24... :( another questions... How are exactly identified the channels on the differe= nt=20 outputs? Who controls what? I'm interested in buying this terratec instead = of=20 my choppy sound blaster (only pcm here... ) |
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From: Lee R. <rlr...@jo...> - 2007-02-02 19:25:28
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On 2/2/07, flocchini <flo...@fa...> wrote: > and why then in windows are there many controls? Software tweaking? I'm in the > same situation with my usb sound blaster live 24... :( Yes, exactly - the Windows drivers probably create mixer elements in software. ALSA just exposes the hardware controls and it is up to higher layers to create more controls in software if desired. Which specific mixer controls from the WIndows driver are missing? Also, the choppiness is not necessarily the fault of your SBLive device - it could be a buggy host controller. Try it on another machine or with a different USB controller. Also make sure you have a recent kernel and that CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is disabled in your kernel .config. Lee |
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From: flocchini <flo...@fa...> - 2007-02-02 20:10:16
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Alle 20:25, venerd=EC 2 febbraio 2007, Lee Revell ha scritto: > Yes, exactly - the Windows drivers probably create mixer elements in > software. ALSA just exposes the hardware controls and it is up to > higher layers to create more controls in software if desired. > > Which specific mixer controls from the WIndows driver are missing? > > Also, the choppiness is not necessarily the fault of your SBLive > device - it could be a buggy host controller. Try it on another > machine or with a different USB controller. Also make sure you have a > recent kernel and that CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is disabled in your kernel > .config. > > Lee tnx Lee for replying :) =46or the choppiness I already tried another machine... Same situation on=20 different machines and architectures (i686 / x86_64) Must be a specific al= sa=20 issue with my sound card (my "model" of sound card, SB0490, I already tried= =20 another one of same type from a friend, same situation), CONFIG_USB_BANDWID= TH=20 already disabled. =46or the mixer, here is my amixer output: flocchini@sovereign ~ $ amixer Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined cvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 15 Mono: Playback 100 [100%] [0.00dB] [on] Capture 0 [0%] [0.00dB] as you can see, it's only ONE control... I refuse to believe that there is= =20 only ONE control in my 5.1 card :) Windows drivers show up front, rear,=20 center, earphones, with spdif and digital din on/off switch. So, I wonder=20 about any better support in alsa :P ciao |
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From: Jean-Michel <jm...@fr...> - 2007-02-02 20:27:38
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Le vendredi 02 f=C3=A9vrier 2007 =C3=A0 14:25 -0500, Lee Revell a =C3=A9c= rit : >=20 > Yes, exactly - the Windows drivers probably create mixer elements in > software. ALSA just exposes the hardware controls and it is up to > higher layers to create more controls in software if desired. >=20 > Which specific mixer controls from the WIndows driver are missing?=20 In Terratec Aureon 5.1 USB MK-2 settings : amixer controls --card 1 amixer controls --card 1 numid=3D5,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Master Playback Switch' numid=3D6,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Master Playback Volume' numid=3D3,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Line Playback Switch' numid=3D4,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Line Playback Volume' numid=3D10,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Line Capture Switch' numid=3D11,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Line Capture Volume' numid=3D9,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Mic Capture' numid=3D1,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Mic Playback Switch' numid=3D2,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Mic Playback Volume' numid=3D7,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Mic Capture Switch' numid=3D8,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Mic Capture Volume' numid=3D13,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'Capture Source' numid=3D12,iface=3DMIXER,name=3D'IEC958 In Capture Switch' Are missing : * Rear Output * C/SUB Output * Front Output * Phones Output Master Playback Volume controls everything. We should have seperate controls. Kind regards, Jean-Michel |
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From: Frank B. <fb...@fo...> - 2007-02-03 08:34:01
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Hallo, Jean-Michel Pouré hat gesagt: // Jean-Michel Pouré wrote: > Master Playback Volume controls everything. Yes, that's all the Aureon can do. This is not a problem with ALSA. > We should have seperate controls. The Aureon doesn't have seperate controls, there's nothing we or you can do about this, sorry. You have to do per-channel control in software, just like it's done in MS-Windows. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ |
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From: <fre...@fr...> - 2007-02-12 13:29:14
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Hello, I own a Terratec Aureon 5.1 USB and I'm unable to get an analogic 5.1 sound= ,=20 just stereo. (In fact, I have tested it with a 5.1 DVD and Mplayer) Have you a way to test it ? Have you a way to test separately each channel= =20 (front left, rear left...) ? Regards, =46rederic Le samedi 3 f=C3=A9vrier 2007, Frank Barknecht a =C3=A9crit : > Hallo, > > Jean-Michel Pour=C3=A9 hat gesagt: // Jean-Michel Pour=C3=A9 wrote: > > Master Playback Volume controls everything. > > Yes, that's all the Aureon can do. This is not a problem with ALSA. > > > We should have seperate controls. > > The Aureon doesn't have seperate controls, there's nothing we or you > can do about this, sorry. You have to do per-channel control in > software, just like it's done in MS-Windows. > > Ciao |
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From: <al...@in...> - 2007-02-12 14:50:15
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Hi!
There is a great way to test channels! In fact, the ALSA wiki should
mention it much more often, because it's not obvious for unexperienced
users.
Setting up ALSA, you should only use speaker-test to test your setup,
like this:
speaker-test -c<X> -D<device> -twav
where <X> is the number of channels of your device and <device> the ALSA
device you're using. "-twav" is optional, it's just nicer to here a
voice than just white noise. If you don't have defined a device (in your
asoundrc file) yet (which you don't need), you have to use a predefined
device, like "default", "surround51", "surround40", "plughw:0,0" and so
on. Get a list of available devices with
aplay -L
If you use my example below, you should use "default" as device. You can
change its name by replacing "pcm.!default" by "pcm.upmix51", so you
would have to use "upmix51" as device with speaker-test.
What you have to do afterwards is make your applications use the device
you successfully tested with speaker-test. If "default" works fine, you
don't have to do anything for most (all?) applications. If you want to
use another device, either create an alias with
pcm.!default { slave.pcm "<your-device>" }
or configure your applications appropiately (How to do this, depends on
the application).
I'm going to improve the articles of the wiki in the next few months, so
if you have any further questions, go ahead and post them. Like this,
I'll know what's not clear yet and do the changes accordingly.
Regards, Ingo
Le mercredi 7 février 2007, Ingo Müller a écrit :
> > Hi!
> >
> > Just a *small* improvement/correction/idea about the upmixing device:
> >
> > pcm.!default {
> > type route
> > slave.pcm "dmix51"
> > slave.channels 6
> > ttable.0.0 1
> > ttable.1.1 1
> > ttable.0.2 1
> > ttable.1.3 1
> > ttable.0.4 0.5 #was 1
> > ttable.1.4 0.5 #was 1
> > ttable.0.5 0.5 #was 1
> > ttable.1.5 0.5 #was 1
> > }
Frédéric COIFFIER schrieb:
> Hello,
>
> I own a Terratec Aureon 5.1 USB and I'm unable to get an analogic 5.1 sound,
> just stereo. (In fact, I have tested it with a 5.1 DVD and Mplayer)
> Have you a way to test it ? Have you a way to test separately each channel
> (front left, rear left...) ?
>
> Regards,
> Frederic
>
> Le samedi 3 février 2007, Frank Barknecht a écrit :
>> Hallo,
>>
>> Jean-Michel Pouré hat gesagt: // Jean-Michel Pouré wrote:
>>> Master Playback Volume controls everything.
>> Yes, that's all the Aureon can do. This is not a problem with ALSA.
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>>> We should have seperate controls.
>> The Aureon doesn't have seperate controls, there's nothing we or you
>> can do about this, sorry. You have to do per-channel control in
>> software, just like it's done in MS-Windows.
>>
>> Ciao
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