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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #135 Right-arrow won't go past a dead accent

[Bernard D. <bde...@us...>]

I can reproduce this. This is caused by the combining accent. Currently Alpha fails to determine the correct bounds of cluster graphems in its *goto* command. See interesting explanations [here](https://oleb.net/blog/2014/07/swift-strings/) and in [Characters and Grapheme Clusters](https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Strings/Articles/stringsClusters.html).
The solution is to use the *NSString*’s `rangeOfComposedCharacterSequencesForRange:` or `rangeOfComposedCharacterSequenceAtIndex:` methods.
I'll (try to) fix this.


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** [tickets:#135] Right-arrow won't go past a dead accent**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Sun Jul 02, 2017 06:19 PM UTC by Joachim Kock
**Last Updated:** Sun Jul 02, 2017 06:19 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


Paste the following into Alpha:

th ́eorie

Now position the insertion point at the beginning and try to navigate right
with the arrow key.  It won't go past the accented space.  (Left arrow key
works alright, and accented letters in general do not pose any problem.)

The problem seems to have to do with some weird composite utf-8...

(The kind of accented space arises often as a result of copying from pdf.)



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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #139 Problems with text selection

[Chris S. <cs...@us...>]

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** [tickets:#139] Problems with text selection**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Tue Aug 01, 2017 04:37 AM UTC by Chris Skeels
**Last Updated:** Tue Aug 01, 2017 04:37 AM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


I suspect that the two items reported here are related and reflect issues with text selection.  Specifically, I feel that there is an issue at the interface between the highlighting of text and text selection.

1. Rectangular Edition
Suppose that I highlight a rectangular block of text.  If I now delete this block then Alpha deletes only the first line of the block and leaves the rest still there.

2. Drag and Drop
The best description that I have is that Drag and Drop is flakey.  Trying to grab a piece of highlighted text sometimes works, but more often doesn't.  So the net outcome of trying to drag highlighted text somewhere is simply to change the selection of text to be highlighted (typically this is just an extnsion of the existing highlighted region.  Note that this behaviour is flakey, sometimes it works perfectly.  Sometimes it works perfectly if you wait for a while between highlighting of text and then trying to grab the highlighted text.  I haven't been able to find any pattern.

As a final remark, This is with 9.0b4, that that is not currently a milestone option.

Cheers, Chris.


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Re: [Alphacocoa-devel] Problems with text selection

[Christopher S. <Chr...@un...>]

Hi Greg,

'It elusive' is the best description.  They fact that text selection will
sometimes work is why I have waited so long to raise it.  I have had no
success at all with rectangular selection beyond the highlighting of text.

I will lodge a bug report.

Cheers, Chris.

Re: [Alphacocoa-devel] Problems with text selection

[Greg D. <gre...@in...>]

I see this as well.  When selecting a block of text and then attempting to drag it, the cursor doesn't change from the selection I-bar (perhaps this
is related?) and sometimes "grabbing" the block of selected text will move it (while also changing the cursor to the arrow as you start to move it)
and other times it will just select from the point where you click.  Oddly, it will succeed several times in a row, only to fail after seemingly
repeating the exact same action a moment later.

It seems that when you have just successfully dragged a block of text, attempting to drag that selected text again is more likely to fail, though
again I haven't been able to isolate the exact steps which cause this.  I've tried moving the cursor outside the active window (forcing the cursor to
change to a different shape) and then moving it back; I've also tried waiting a second or two before attempting to click and drag, and clicking in
various places within the highlighted selection (including where there is no text) before attempting to drag.  None of these seem to correlate with
the issue.  It's elusive.

The issue with deleting a rectangular selection seems to show up every time - oddly, I hadn't tested this until now.

On 7/28/17 12:46 AM, Christopher Skeels wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Now that teaching has dropped off for a while, I have been trying to use Alpha exclusively for all my editing work.  I have encountered two issues
> that I think are both issues of text selection or, rather, lack of text selection.
> 
> First, dragging and dropping text is not working well at all.  In particular,  if I highlight some text and then try to drag it somewhere it is only
> rarely dragged anywhere at all.  It is much more common for the dragging of the mouse, while holding holding the button down, to change the
> highlighted region.  
> 
> Second, rectangular editing displays similar behaviours.  I can select rectangular areas whilst holding down the option key.  A common reason to do so
> is to delete the selected region.  Hitting the delete key deletes only that part of the region that occupies the top-most line, the rest is left
> unchanged with the cursor on the topmost line at the end of the line segment that was deleted.
> 
> Is anybody else seeing these behaviours?
> 
> Cheers, Chris.


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[Alphacocoa-devel] Problems with text selection

[Christopher S. <Chr...@un...>]

Hi,

Now that teaching has dropped off for a while, I have been trying to use Alpha exclusively for all my editing work.  I have encountered two issues that I think are both issues of text selection or, rather, lack of text selection.

First, dragging and dropping text is not working well at all.  In particular,  if I highlight some text and then try to drag it somewhere it is only rarely dragged anywhere at all.  It is much more common for the dragging of the mouse, while holding holding the button down, to change the highlighted region.

Second, rectangular editing displays similar behaviours.  I can select rectangular areas whilst holding down the option key.  A common reason to do so is to delete the selected region.  Hitting the delete key deletes only that part of the region that occupies the top-most line, the rest is left unchanged with the cursor on the topmost line at the end of the line segment that was deleted.

Is anybody else seeing these behaviours?

Cheers, Chris.

[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #138 Undo does not move insertion point back

[Joachim K. <jk...@us...>]

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** [tickets:#138] Undo does not move insertion point back**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:02 AM UTC by Joachim Kock
**Last Updated:** Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:02 AM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


Suppose you write some text, then move to another place in the document without editing further, and then press Undo.  The correct behaviour would be to have the last action undone, and having the insertion point moved to the spot that last action took place.

Instead Alpha performs the undo, but leaves the insertion point at the remote place. (In particular one does not see the action being undone, because since the insertion point is not moved, the window focus is not moved either.)


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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #137 Dynamic menu items are too slow

[Joachim K. <jk...@us...>]

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** [tickets:#137] Dynamic menu items are too slow**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Sun Jul 02, 2017 06:31 PM UTC by Joachim Kock
**Last Updated:** Sun Jul 02, 2017 06:31 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


Example: in the Text menu, go for Paragraph To Line.
This involves selecting the menu, and then pressing Alt,
before finally selecting the dynamic item.  The probem is 
that the Alt key is not detected the first half second.

In fact the nice behaviour, which is the one of AlphaX,
is to be able to press Alt even before selecting the menu.
With this behaviour, you can sort of do the two things
simultaneously, without worrying which comes first.

I think the problems is that the dynamic menus detect
the event "Alt being activated" where it would be better
if it could detect the event "Alt HAS been activated",
that is, has been pressed and is still held down.


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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #136 with soft wrapping, arrow keys should follow visual lines

[Joachim K. <jk...@us...>]

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** [tickets:#136] with soft wrapping, arrow keys should follow visual lines**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Sun Jul 02, 2017 06:24 PM UTC by Joachim Kock
**Last Updated:** Sun Jul 02, 2017 06:24 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


With soft wrapping turned on:

Currently the behaviour is that navigation keys follow the logical line.
I think the correct behaviour, such as found in word processors, is to
follow the visual line.

For example, in a long logical line spanning three visual lines, 
pressing arrow-up near the end takes you to the previous logical line,
where the expeted behaviour is to go ony one visual line up.



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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #135 Right-arrow won't go past a dead accent

[Joachim K. <jk...@us...>]

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** [tickets:#135] Right-arrow won't go past a dead accent**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Sun Jul 02, 2017 06:19 PM UTC by Joachim Kock
**Last Updated:** Sun Jul 02, 2017 06:19 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


Paste the following into Alpha:

th ́eorie

Now position the insertion point at the beginning and try to navigate right
with the arrow key.  It won't go past the accented space.  (Left arrow key
works alright, and accented letters in general do not pose any problem.)

The problem seems to have to do with some weird composite utf-8...

(The kind of accented space arises often as a result of copying from pdf.)



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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #133 undo / redo

[Bernard D. <bde...@us...>]

- **status**: open --> fixed



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** [tickets:#133] undo / redo**

**Status:** fixed
**Created:** Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
**Last Updated:** Wed May 10, 2017 05:31 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


This is rather a RFE : do you think it could be possible to have a "redo" command together with the "undo" ?


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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #134 strange behavior of the "undo" command for some actions

[Bernard D. <bde...@us...>]

- **status**: open --> fixed



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** [tickets:#134] strange behavior of the "undo" command for some actions**

**Status:** fixed
**Created:** Tue May 09, 2017 08:00 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
**Last Updated:** Wed May 10, 2017 05:33 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


Usually, when you use "undo" command, the cursor is moved back to the locus where the "undo" is actually done. However, it seems that in some cases, the cursor is not moving. It seems to be the case if the action to be undone is the insertion or the suppresion of a carriage return.

Here is a simple test: I open a file, I insert some chars, I insert a new line, I move the cursor down and select undo : the cursor stay in place and the insertion is correctly undone.


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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #134 strange behavior of the "undo" command for some actions

[Bernard D. <bde...@us...>]

This is fixed now. The commands *[text delete/insert/replace]* now support a new *-preserve* option.

Changes committed to the repository ([rev. 1344](http://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/code/1344/)). The core must be rebuilt.


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** [tickets:#134] strange behavior of the "undo" command for some actions**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Tue May 09, 2017 08:00 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
**Last Updated:** Tue May 09, 2017 08:00 AM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


Usually, when you use "undo" command, the cursor is moved back to the locus where the "undo" is actually done. However, it seems that in some cases, the cursor is not moving. It seems to be the case if the action to be undone is the insertion or the suppresion of a carriage return.

Here is a simple test: I open a file, I insert some chars, I insert a new line, I move the cursor down and select undo : the cursor stay in place and the insertion is correctly undone.


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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #133 undo / redo

[Bernard D. <bde...@us...>]

This is fixed now. 

Changes committed to the repository ([rev. 1344](http://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/code/1344/)).


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** [tickets:#133] undo / redo**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
**Last Updated:** Tue May 09, 2017 04:53 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


This is rather a RFE : do you think it could be possible to have a "redo" command together with the "undo" ?


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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] Re: #133 undo / redo

[Bernard D. <bde...@us...>]

> Le 10 mai 2017 à 09:10, Sylvain Loiseau <syl...@un...> a écrit :
> 
> My opinion is that it is one of the nice feature of Alpha and I should have found that Redo menu. Plus, it is the very standard shortcut for it.
> 
> I also feel that it is reasonable to expect a new user to learn 4-5 key features of a new app that are really useful and pervasive, and in order to use Alpha one have to learn, for instance, that (1) in order to insert the « tab » char you have to use alt-tab and that (2) « paired functions » are (i) linked to the same menu entry dynamically changed by alt and/or (ii) have the same shortcut modulo the alt modifier, and so on.
> 
> However, maybe undo/redo should be treated differently because:
> - it is very standard in every app to have the two functions as the first two items in the Edit menu
> - it is not the alt modifier, and there are few cases where the shift key change dynamically the menu (I found « Sort Lines »~« Sort paragraph » in « Text » menu and « Find Next »~« Find Previous » in « Search » Menu. « Find previous » is also a very basic functionality that one may feel frustrating not to found in the first place. Again this is the standard shortcut, I guess I found it because I did _not_ search it... in the menu). Maybe dynamic menu could be limited to « alt » and the three shift-modified menu items treated as static menu?
> 

Excellent suggestions. Quite convincing. I’ll implement them.
Cheers,
Bernard



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** [tickets:#133] undo / redo**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
**Last Updated:** Tue May 09, 2017 04:53 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


This is rather a RFE : do you think it could be possible to have a "redo" command together with the "undo" ?


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Re: [Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #133 undo / redo

[Bernard D. <bde...@or...>]

> Le 10 mai 2017 à 09:10, Sylvain Loiseau <syl...@un...> a écrit :
> 
> My opinion is that it is one of the nice feature of Alpha and I should have found that Redo menu. Plus, it is the very standard shortcut for it.
> 
> I also feel that it is reasonable to expect a new user to learn 4-5 key features of a new app that are really useful and pervasive, and in order to use Alpha one have to learn, for instance, that (1) in order to insert the « tab » char you have to use alt-tab and that (2) « paired functions » are (i) linked to the same menu entry dynamically changed by alt and/or (ii) have the same shortcut modulo the alt modifier, and so on.
> 
> However, maybe undo/redo should be treated differently because:
> - it is very standard in every app to have the two functions as the first two items in the Edit menu
> - it is not the alt modifier, and there are few cases where the shift key change dynamically the menu (I found « Sort Lines »~« Sort paragraph » in « Text » menu and « Find Next »~« Find Previous » in « Search » Menu. « Find previous » is also a very basic functionality that one may feel frustrating not to found in the first place. Again this is the standard shortcut, I guess I found it because I did _not_ search it... in the menu). Maybe dynamic menu could be limited to « alt » and the three shift-modified menu items treated as static menu?
> 

Excellent suggestions. Quite convincing. I’ll implement them.
Cheers,
Bernard

Re: [Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #133 undo / redo

[Sylvain L. <syl...@un...>]

My opinion is that it is one of the nice feature of Alpha and I should have found that Redo menu. Plus, it is the very standard shortcut for it.

I also feel that it is reasonable to expect a new user to learn 4-5 key features of a new app that are really useful and pervasive, and in order to use Alpha one have to learn, for instance, that (1) in order to insert the « tab » char you have to use alt-tab and that (2) « paired functions » are (i) linked to the same menu entry dynamically changed by alt and/or (ii) have the same shortcut modulo the alt modifier, and so on.

However, maybe undo/redo should be treated differently because:
- it is very standard in every app to have the two functions as the first two items in the Edit menu
- it is not the alt modifier, and there are few cases where the shift key change dynamically the menu (I found « Sort Lines »~« Sort paragraph » in « Text » menu and « Find Next »~« Find Previous » in « Search » Menu. « Find previous » is also a very basic functionality that one may feel frustrating not to found in the first place. Again this is the standard shortcut, I guess I found it because I did _not_ search it... in the menu). Maybe dynamic menu could be limited to « alt » and the three shift-modified menu items treated as static menu?

Best,
Sylvain

> Le 9 mai 2017 à 18:53, Bernard Desgraupes <bde...@us...> a écrit :
> 
> There is indeed a preference to disable the dynamic menus and have all the menu items displayed simultanelously. It really makes some menus quite big and navigation more complicated. My feeling is that the menus are already big enough in their dynamic state but I'd be glad to hear other opinions.
> Anyway, the preference is Use Dynamic Menus in the Menus panel of Alpha ↣ Preferences ↣ Global Preferences.
> 
> [tickets:#133] undo / redo
> 
> Status: open
> Created: Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
> Last Updated: Tue May 09, 2017 01:14 PM UTC
> Owner: nobody
> 
> This is rather a RFE : do you think it could be possible to have a "redo" command together with the "undo" ?
> 
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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #133 undo / redo

[Bernard D. <bde...@us...>]

There is indeed a preference to disable the dynamic menus and have all the menu items displayed simultanelously. It really makes some menus quite big and navigation more complicated. My feeling is that the menus are already big enough in their dynamic state but I'd be glad to hear other opinions.
Anyway, the preference is *Use Dynamic Menus* in the *Menus* panel of *Alpha ↣ Preferences ↣ Global Preferences*.



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** [tickets:#133] undo / redo**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
**Last Updated:** Tue May 09, 2017 01:14 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


This is rather a RFE : do you think it could be possible to have a "redo" command together with the "undo" ?


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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] Re: #133 undo / redo

[Chris S. <cs...@us...>]

For what little it is worth, I have long felt that many of the default
menu settings are tailored for very small screens, the LaTeX menu being a
good example, but certainly not the only one.  I think that it is great
that it is possible to configure menus to be compact, if say working on a
laptop, but I am not sure that is it is all that desirable if working on a
desktop machine which, these days, is likely to have much more extensive
real estate available.  The problem, as seen here, is that you only ever
discover these hidden possibilities if you inadvertently have the correct
meta-key pressed when the menu is open, a low probability event. This
leads to unnecessary frustration.  If it were ever up for discussion then
I would support the default configuration being for all menus to be
expanded (while retaining the option of making them compact if desired).

Cheers, Chris.







On 9/05/2017 11:25 pm, "Sylvain Loiseau" <syl...@un...>
wrote:

>sorryŠ I was pretty sure it was somewhere around :-)
>
>I think it could be useful (for new users looking for function in the
>menu) to have it as a distinct and visible entry in the menu.
>
>Best,
>Sylvain
>
>> Le 9 mai 2017 à 15:14, Bernard Desgraupes <bde...@us...> a
>>écrit :
>> 
>> There is already: shift-cmd-Z.
>> 
>> [tickets:#133] undo / redo
>> 
>> Status: open
>> Created: Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
>> Last Updated: Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC
>> Owner: nobody
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** [tickets:#133] undo / redo**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
**Last Updated:** Tue May 09, 2017 01:14 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


This is rather a RFE : do you think it could be possible to have a "redo" command together with the "undo" ?


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Re: [Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #133 undo / redo

[Bernard D. <bde...@or...>]

Hi Sylvain,

There is a distinct entry but you see it in the menu only when you press the shift key (undo changes to redo).
This is the side effect of dynamic menus that some functionalities are hidden sometimes. It has become a reflex for me to always press a modifier key when I am looking for something in a menu.

Cheers,
Bernard

Le 9 mai 2017 à 15:25, Sylvain Loiseau <syl...@un...> a écrit :

> sorry… I was pretty sure it was somewhere around :-)
> 
> I think it could be useful (for new users looking for function in the menu) to have it as a distinct and visible entry in the menu.
> 
> Best,
> Sylvain
> 
>> Le 9 mai 2017 à 15:14, Bernard Desgraupes <bde...@us...> a écrit :
>> 
>> There is already: shift-cmd-Z.
>> 
>> [tickets:#133] undo / redo
>> 
>> Status: open
>> Created: Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
>> Last Updated: Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC
>> Owner: nobody
>> 
>> This is rather a RFE : do you think it could be possible to have a "redo" command together with the "undo" ?
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Re: [Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #133 undo / redo

[Christopher S. <Chr...@un...>]

For what little it is worth, I have long felt that many of the default
menu settings are tailored for very small screens, the LaTeX menu being a
good example, but certainly not the only one.  I think that it is great
that it is possible to configure menus to be compact, if say working on a
laptop, but I am not sure that is it is all that desirable if working on a
desktop machine which, these days, is likely to have much more extensive
real estate available.  The problem, as seen here, is that you only ever
discover these hidden possibilities if you inadvertently have the correct
meta-key pressed when the menu is open, a low probability event. This
leads to unnecessary frustration.  If it were ever up for discussion then
I would support the default configuration being for all menus to be
expanded (while retaining the option of making them compact if desired).

Cheers, Chris.







On 9/05/2017 11:25 pm, "Sylvain Loiseau" <syl...@un...>
wrote:

>sorryŠ I was pretty sure it was somewhere around :-)
>
>I think it could be useful (for new users looking for function in the
>menu) to have it as a distinct and visible entry in the menu.
>
>Best,
>Sylvain
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>> Le 9 mai 2017 à 15:14, Bernard Desgraupes <bde...@us...> a
>>écrit :
>> 
>> There is already: shift-cmd-Z.
>> 
>> [tickets:#133] undo / redo
>> 
>> Status: open
>> Created: Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
>> Last Updated: Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC
>> Owner: nobody
>> 
>> This is rather a RFE : do you think it could be possible to have a
>>"redo" command together with the "undo" ?
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Re: [Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #133 undo / redo

[Sylvain L. <syl...@un...>]

sorry… I was pretty sure it was somewhere around :-)

I think it could be useful (for new users looking for function in the menu) to have it as a distinct and visible entry in the menu.

Best,
Sylvain

> Le 9 mai 2017 à 15:14, Bernard Desgraupes <bde...@us...> a écrit :
> 
> There is already: shift-cmd-Z.
> 
> [tickets:#133] undo / redo
> 
> Status: open
> Created: Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
> Last Updated: Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC
> Owner: nobody
> 
> This is rather a RFE : do you think it could be possible to have a "redo" command together with the "undo" ?
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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #133 undo / redo

[Bernard D. <bde...@us...>]

There is already: `shift-cmd-Z`.


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** [tickets:#133] undo / redo**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
**Last Updated:** Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


This is rather a RFE : do you think it could be possible to have a "redo" command together with the "undo" ?


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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #134 strange behavior of the "undo" command for some actions

[Sylvain L. <syl...@us...>]

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** [tickets:#134] strange behavior of the "undo" command for some actions**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Tue May 09, 2017 08:00 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
**Last Updated:** Tue May 09, 2017 08:00 AM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


Usually, when you use "undo" command, the cursor is moved back to the locus where the "undo" is actually done. However, it seems that in some cases, the cursor is not moving. It seems to be the case if the action to be undone is the insertion or the suppresion of a carriage return.

Here is a simple test: I open a file, I insert some chars, I insert a new line, I move the cursor down and select undo : the cursor stay in place and the insertion is correctly undone.


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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #133 undo / redo

[Sylvain L. <syl...@us...>]

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** [tickets:#133] undo / redo**

**Status:** open
**Created:** Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
**Last Updated:** Tue May 09, 2017 07:47 AM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


This is rather a RFE : do you think it could be possible to have a "redo" command together with the "undo" ?


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[Alphacocoa-devel] [alphacocoa:tickets] #132 keyboard shortcut for moving and deleting text

[Bernard D. <bde...@us...>]

- **status**: fixed --> closed
- **Version**: 9.0b2 --> 9.0b3



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** [tickets:#132] keyboard shortcut for moving and deleting text**

**Status:** closed
**Created:** Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:12 AM UTC by Sylvain Loiseau
**Last Updated:** Fri Apr 28, 2017 05:58 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


- alt-left or alt-right arrow: move one word backward / forward
- alt-backward or alt-fn-backward : delete one word backward / forward

- cmd-left or cmd-right arrow: move at the begining or the end of the line
- cmd-backward: delete up to the begining of the line
What about having the symetrical : cmd-fn-backward: for deleting up to the end of the line?
Maybe inconsistent with other keyboards convention...


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