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[Abeni-develop] FASD project: Online survey launched

[<ben...@id...>]

Dear Open Source developer

I am doing a research project on "Fun and Software Development" in which I kindly invite you to participate.
You will find the online survey under http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/. The questionnaire consists of 53 questions and you will need about 15 minutes to complete it.

With the FASD project (Fun and Software Development) we want to define the motivational significance of fun when software developers decide to engage in Open Source projects. What is special about our research project is that a similar survey is planned with software developers in commercial firms. This procedure allows the immediate comparison between the involved individuals and the conditions of production of these two development models. Thus we hope to obtain substantial new insights to the phenomenon of Open Source Development.


With many thanks for your participation,
Benno Luthiger


PS:
The results of the survey will be published under http://www.isu.unizh.ch/fuehrung/blprojects/FASD/.
We have set up the mailing list fa...@we... for this study. Please see http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/mailinglist_en.html for registration to this mailing list.

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Benno Luthiger
Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich
8092 Zurich

Mail: benno.luthiger(at)id.ethz.ch
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[Abeni-develop] IRC channel

[Marius M. <ge...@ge...>]

FYI: I've set up an IRC channel #abeni on Freenode just in case this
project grows bigger.

[Abeni-develop] seperate GUI from Backend ?

[Marius M. <ge...@ge...>]

Hi,

I noticed that abeni.py is becoming rather big (nearing 2000 lines) and
that it contains both GUI stuff and most functions to handle the ebuild
contents. I think we should seperate that into its own class, that way
it could also be used without loading all the wx stuff. It would also
make abeni.py a lot smaller (just think about portage.py :( ) and IMO a
clearer design is always a good thing :)

Marius

Re: [Abeni-develop] wxPython using -gtk2.

[Rob C. <ro...@my...>]

On Friday 22 August 2003 09:27 am, Lloyd D Budd wrote:
> I appreciate your team's suggestion regarding building wxGTK/wxPython
> with -gtk2.  Do you know of a bug # I can track? Or know of a release
> where this is/will be resolved?

Hi Lloyd,

I don't think there is a bug filed on bugs.gentoo.org on this issue.
In Abeni's bug (#22938) I let liquidx know about the problem. Since
he's mantainer of wxPython I wasn't sure if I should file a separate bug.
I know the wxGTK USE description mentions there may be problems with gtk2.
I was going to talk to him about my warning in the latest ebuild, if it
was overkill etc when he gets back from vacation next week.

The author of wxPython is aware of the problem. I asked him about it
in June when I started Abeni. He's going to add a feature to let you
detect if wxPython/wxGTK was compiled with gtk2, so I could drop the
warning if wxGTK was comilled with plain gtk.

The gtk2 problem can be re-produced in the wxPython demo and boa-constructo=
r.
One solution would be to have wxPython have a private copy of wxGTK that is
compiled with gtk1. Back in June I think there was only one pure wxGTK app,
xmule I think, and I tried that with gtk2 and it seemed to work, although
there were pango errors or warnings sent to stdout, so maybe its just a
wxPython problem. After checking, there are quite a few wxGTK apps in
portage now so I'll do some testing with gtk2 to see if its only
wxPython's problem.

Here's the mail the author of wxPython answered about gtk2. It hasn't
been fixed as of 2.4.1.2:

>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a user who is getting an error when they add a new page to a
>> notebook in my application. They are using wxPython 2.4.07 and I
>> beleive GTK2. I don't get this error and I'm using plain GTK. The
>> notebook page has a panel with a wxStyledTextControl on it.
>>
>> Is this a known problem?

>Yes.

>> I saw a thread about pango and fonts, but
>> it was about a year ago. Is wxPython with GTK2 nearly as stable
>> as the old GTK version?

>Mostly.  There is still an unexplained crash dealing with fonts on some
>machines but not others, and wxSTC needs some updating as you've seen.
>Until that's worked out you'll want to stick with GTK 1.2 if you need wxST=
C.

>--
>Robin Dunn


Thanks,
Rob

[Abeni-develop] wxPython using -gtk2.

[Lloyd D B. <ll...@fo...>]

Hi,
http://abeni.sourceforge.net/download.html


I appreciate your team's suggestion regarding building wxGTK/wxPython
with -gtk2.  Do you know of a bug # I can track? Or know of a release
where this is/will be resolved?

Thanks,
Lloyd

[Abeni-develop] Test post.

[Rob C. <ro...@my...>]

Test post. Don't panic.