Sorting by name with hu_HU.utf8 locale

I forgot to mention that I'm using version 0.9.7

The latest pcmanfm built on top of glib/gio doesn't have this problem. Please test the latest source code in git repository.

As I had reported at https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=801864&aid=3029976&group_id=156956 I also had this problem of pcmanfm opening with files/folders in a shuffled order.
I installed commit 438c0fdab1df27343ea274eed4730844d5d9b8f3 and also latest menu-cache and libfm as informed at http://wiki.lxde.org/en/PCManFM_build_and_setup_guide and now it works as expected.

As a side note, I had to install libfm-gtk0 from Debian's repository for it to work.

I installed the latest version from the git repository as pcmanx suggested and it works fine now.

shamuayka:
In my case changing to other sort method then changing back to "sort by name" doesn't work.

I've been using for a while and it's working fine but the shuffled order still occurs for the files/folders in the desktop.
It's no identifiable order and I can reorder them fine but the next session they come up shuffled again (only rebooted once; if this doesn't confirm I update here).

shamuayka:
Then the cause is quite apparent. You installed old version of libfm-gtk which contains the bug. The version provided by Debian is quite old and it still has the bug. You need the libfm code in git repo.
So, I believe that the bug is fixed.

Hi pcman,
I purged libfm0 and libfm-gtk0 (Debian has those two packages), installed the one from git and the behaviour is the same.
pcmanfm is working fine in this respect now but the desktop folders and files are in some undefined sorting (always the same, i. e., it obeys to some order but not to any of the four pre-defined ones).
See http://yfrog.com/5ccapturadetela3gp

Here you can see how it's ok in the file manager but 'out of order' in the desktop: http://yfrog.com/83capturadetela4vp

In my opinion, the most important is the file manager window but it seems there's still some bug hidden in the --desktop option.

PCMan, I have been testing the git versions these days and this morning the shuffled order regressed. Even in the file manager window it opens with that undefined order again the first time it's opened.
Now a while back I updated yet again with the version that has movable icons support and it keeps this behaviour of shuffled ordering at the first opening.

Well, this issue persists with the latest released experimental versions of libfm and pcmanfm. But I noticed something interesting today: the wrong order happens for normal users but for the root user pcmanfm opens with the correct order.
Download a little video of this behaviour from http://www.sendspace.com/file/ivo2sd

Hope it's ok to keep posting here even with this bug 'closed'. If it's preferred to open yet another bug please tell me.

This is what I found out:
The bug is due to the '--profile' option.
I reinstalled pcmanfm (latest libfm and pcmanfm from git) and opened it from inside GNOME. Guess what? It opened with files/folders correctly sorted by name.
So I removed the '--desktop' option from /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart (originally '@pcmanfm --desktop --profile LXDE') to see if what was causing that misbehaviour was the '--desktop' option and logged into LXDE. What happened? pcmanfm opened with the messed up ordering.
Then I looked into ~/.config/pcmanfm and saw something interesting: the file LXDE/pcmanfm.conf was quite different from the file default/pcmanfm.conf.

-default:
[ui]
always_show_tabs=0
hide_close_btn=0
win_width=640
win_height=480
splitter_pos=150
view_mode=0
show_hidden=0
sort_type=0
sort_by=2

-LXDE:
[ui]
always_show_tabs=0
hide_close_btn=0
win_width=640
win_height=480
view_mode=0
show_hidden=0
sort_type=0
sort_by=0

And more: the first time I changed the ordering, it was written to LXDE/pcmanfm.conf (and then I thought that was right since I was in an LXDE session) but the subsequent times I changed the ordering it was written to default/pcmanfm.conf (now we're getting closer...).
So I logged out of LXDE, deleted ~/.config/pcmanfm/LXDE and this time I put back the '--desktop' option and removed the '--profile LXDE' option from /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart. Then logged back in. So? pcmanfm opened with files/folders ordered correctly. (Note: the order in the desktop itself was wrong as always)
So I went to look at ~/.config/pcmanfm and found this messy thing: LXDE/pcmanfm had created both LXDE/pcmanfm.conf and the old lxde.conf file. LXDE/pcmanfm.conf this time was right and was a blend of LXDE's' own settings (like the wallpaper) and the (right) settings at default/pcmanfm.conf while lxde.conf had the wrong settings that would have been copied to LXDE/pcmanfm.conf if pcmanfm had been started with the '--profile LXDE' option.

So it seems old and new default settings are mixed up. Maybe lxsession will have to be tweaked? Or is something that remained in libfm's/pcmanfm's code?

Now I'll check that problem that pcmanfm/LXDE was giving of overwriting its preferences at every login. I'll keep without the '--profile LXDE' option and see how it goes. Then I may open a separate bug report for it.