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#84 All redirects are not created equal
Page redirects are used for several purposes, chiefly:
A) Alternate, but equally valid, forms of names
(with/without accents, middle names, alternate
transcription methods, etc)
B) Common misspellings
C) Old ugly or awkward names of pages that have been
renamed (eg, former subpages)
Type A redirects are not unreasonable to leave intact
in links if they're natural for someone to type. Type B
and C should not generally be knowingly linked to, and
are mainly there to catch searches or links from
external sites that haven't been updated.
There have been suggestions from time to time that it
might be useful to have a special kind of redirect for
the latter type that would notify the user that he or
she has followed a deprecated link, which ought to be
updated.
Good idea or anathema?
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Given the general failure of the disambiguation notice to
prompt individuals to fix individual links, I really don't see the
point of notifying (and annoying) a user that they followed an
obsolete link.This would especially be annoying for anybody
following [[Paris]] wanting to get to the Paris in France (this is
probably a bad example and goes under option A).
However, I do see the utility in keeping pages that link here
free from the ugliness of obviously obsolete links like
subpages /if/ the move feature allowed for automatic changing
of the unseen obsolete redirects when the article is
administratively moved and if the software also would fix any
obsolete links in any articles or redirects linked to the old
page title. A syntax of #OBSOLETE [[{target name}]] or
something similar would be easy to remember. Furthermore
the admin doing an administrative move should have the
choice on whether to obsolete the old page title (thus having
the software fix all the old links and not list it in what links
here) or to simply turn the old page into a standard redirect
as it now does.
--mav
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> .../if/ the move feature allowed for automatic changing
> of the unseen obsolete redirects when the article is
> administratively moved...
Hey, that's a whole nother feature request! And a good one,
too; usemodwiki actually was able to do this IIRC.
Just added it: #585583 Change links, talk pages in "Move page"
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=585583&group_id=34373&atid=411195
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I second (or third) mav's #OBSOLETE idea -- very cool.
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But, we should have the common pages, that include multiple
definitions in tables (long or short), more appropriately titular---
<large>Hesit (from: Demur)</large>
---not---
<large>Hesit<,/large><br>
<small>(redirected from demur)</small>
/rkp
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