From: Geoffrey T. <gta...@na...> - 2004-02-09 15:12:07
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I think Webware has matured to the point of diminishing returns -- it works well enough that there's not much payoff in enhancing it further :-) I'd love to see better docs, more users, code cleanup, a strong core group of developers with the time and energy to review bug reports and patches frequently, a test suite, and a 1.0 release. But even if none of those things happen, I'll still be happy with Webware and will continue to use it. - Geoff |
From: Paul B. <pau...@em...> - 2004-02-09 15:27:06
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Geoffrey Talvola [mailto:gta...@na...] wrote: >=20 > I think Webware has matured to the point of diminishing returns -- it = works > well enough that there's not much payoff in enhancing it further :-) There have been some pretty big changes in certain areas between 0.8.1 = and CVS, though. Perhaps the people who actually use Webware for real-world stuff (unlike me) just track CVS, but I've been pleasantly surprised by = some of the enhancements. Some things still annoy me, though - contexts seem = to override packages of the same name - eg. set up a context called = mypackage and then attempt to import the genuine mypackage within the context's = code. > I'd love to see better docs, more users, code cleanup, a strong core = group > of developers with the time and energy to review bug reports and = patches > frequently, a test suite, and a 1.0 release. But even if none of = those > things happen, I'll still be happy with Webware and will continue to = use > it. Not strictly related to test suites, but I've been working on a simple meta-framework which covers Webware and some of the other Web = frameworks. Hopefully, I'll release something for the Web-SIG to criticise later in = the week, if only to reinvigorate the stalled discussions on common APIs = which didn't seem to get any further than a ridiculously simple single = function signature and lots of talk about threading models. Paul |
From: Tim R. <ti...@pr...> - 2004-02-09 19:57:26
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On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 19:18:50 -0800, Michael Montagne <mi...@th...> wrote: >I built my website with webware about a year ago and really loved >getting my feet wet. It's now time to get back into it a bit. But >progress seems to have slowed. Is there still any excitement about >this project? It's a super program. > It is natural for "progress" to slow. When a project reaches a certain critical mass, and people start using it for real, production work, they don't WANT it to be changing radically on a day-by-day basis. I think Webware has reached that stage. There is still work being done in refining, refactoring, and bug fixing, but I would be surprised to find any dramatic changes between now and 1.0. By the way, isn't it about time to call this thing 1.0? -- - Tim Roberts, ti...@pr... Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. |
From: Todd G. <to...@sl...> - 2004-02-09 18:19:57
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* Geoffrey Talvola <gta...@na...> [2004-02-09 10:20]: > I'd love to see better docs, more users, code cleanup, a strong core group > of developers with the time and energy to review bug reports and patches > frequently, a test suite, and a 1.0 release. But even if none of those > things happen, I'll still be happy with Webware and will continue to use it. I think a big help in getting those wishes met, and probably in answering the OP, is if the website was updated/refreshed/refactored. If you go there, it does appear on quick browse to be frozen in time - august 2003. I know everyone's got no time, and those most intimate with the code are likely *using* it rather than talking about it, but this seems like a low-hanging fruit... [back to lurking mode] -- ___________________________ toddgrimason*to...@sl... |