From: <uh...@al...> - 2005-05-13 18:28:08
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I've just come across the Unattended project. Perhaps this is lazy... but has anybody produced a live Linux CD (eg. one based on Knoppix) with the Unattended server and requisites already installed? It would be really useful to be able to put such a CD in a PC and use it straight-off to install OSes on other machines... Thanks Tom Crane Ps. I'm not on the ML so please CC me any replies. -- Tom Crane, Dept. Physics, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham Hill, Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX, England. Email: T....@rh... Fax: +44 (0) 1784 472794 |
From: Tomasz C. <ma...@mc...> - 2005-05-13 21:23:50
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Tom Crane wrote: > I've just come across the Unattended project. Perhaps this is lazy... but has > anybody produced a live Linux CD (eg. one based on Knoppix) with the Unattended > server and requisites already installed? It would be really useful to be able > to put such a CD in a PC and use it straight-off to install OSes on other > machines... I think it's impossible. Since Unattended is designed for installing Windows, "producing" such a live CD would be a piracy, as it would contain Windows OS... However, nothing prevents creating such a CD for a personal use - as long as your Windows licence allows that. Some instructions on how to do that might be useful, too. -- Tomek |
From: Tomasz C. <ma...@mc...> - 2005-05-20 06:30:26
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>> I think it's impossible. >> >> Since Unattended is designed for installing Windows, "producing" such a live CD would be a piracy, as it would contain Windows OS... >> >> However, nothing prevents creating such a CD for a personal use - as long as your Windows licence allows that. >> >> Some instructions on how to do that might be useful, too. >> >> > Well we could provide everything we are legally allowed to on such a CD and omit everything else but leave well written documents on where to download and how to put them into your CD image. that way its still legal and you can still get what you need. A Pain yes, but we dont want to be shut down because of a lapse of judgement Well, I don't think it has to be a "pain" to set up. We could provide a "live cd" (a one without any proprietary stuff like Windows etc.), which would create another live cd ISO image - this time, including Windows (the path to Windows would be specified by a user), and other software. I think, given the limited amount of time I have - I could create it in a month or so (maybe wit some help)? What do you think? Any takers? -- Tomek |
From: Thomas L. <tho...@gm...> - 2005-05-24 13:27:07
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Hi Tomasz, hi folks, I also thought of such a CD. I once had to set up a remote computer. I took my notebook, a usb-harddrive and a knoppix-CD with me when I had to travel to that remote location. I set up the samba server with the knoppix and used the unattended directory tree and the all the software packages on the usb-disk. It's easier modifing scripts and updating packages this way. So I transfered my notebook into the unattended install server. It was not the best considering performance but it did the job. My approach would be to forge a slender linux on the CD with tftpd, dhcpd, samba. When it boots, it looks on the harddisk partitions for the unattended directory and configures everything. Maybe it has to ask a few questions like IP-Address, MAC-Addresses, user account, passwords etc. After that, the unattended server is ready to go. I would really like to try this out but my spare time is very limited right now. I cannot tell, when I get around to work on it. Best Regards Thomas Tomasz Chmielewski schrieb: > >> I think it's impossible. > >> > >> Since Unattended is designed for installing Windows, "producing" > such a live CD would be a piracy, as it would contain Windows OS... > >> > >> However, nothing prevents creating such a CD for a personal use - as > long as your Windows licence allows that. > >> > >> Some instructions on how to do that might be useful, too. > >> > >> > > Well we could provide everything we are legally allowed to on such a > CD and omit everything else but leave well written documents on where to > download and how to put them into your CD image. that way its still > legal and you can still get what you need. A Pain yes, but we dont want > to be shut down because of a lapse of judgement > > > Well, I don't think it has to be a "pain" to set up. > > We could provide a "live cd" (a one without any proprietary stuff like > Windows etc.), which would create another live cd ISO image - this time, > including Windows (the path to Windows would be specified by a user), > and other software. > > I think, given the limited amount of time I have - I could create it in > a month or so (maybe wit some help)? > > What do you think? Any takers? > > |
From: Shohn T. <tro...@gm...> - 2005-05-24 15:47:32
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It'd be really cool if it were using PXE... On 5/24/05, Thomas Lohschmidt <tho...@gm...> wrote: > Hi Tomasz, hi folks, >=20 > I also thought of such a CD. I once had to set up a remote computer. I > took my notebook, a usb-harddrive and a knoppix-CD with me when I had to > travel to that remote location. > I set up the samba server with the knoppix and used the unattended > directory tree and the all the software packages on the usb-disk. It's > easier modifing scripts and updating packages this way. >=20 > So I transfered my notebook into the unattended install server. It was > not the best considering performance but it did the job. >=20 > My approach would be to forge a slender linux on the CD with tftpd, > dhcpd, samba. When it boots, it looks on the harddisk partitions for the > unattended directory and configures everything. Maybe it has to ask a > few questions like IP-Address, MAC-Addresses, user account, passwords etc= . > After that, the unattended server is ready to go. >=20 > I would really like to try this out but my spare time is very limited > right now. I cannot tell, when I get around to work on it. >=20 >=20 > Best Regards > Thomas >=20 >=20 >=20 > Tomasz Chmielewski schrieb: > > >> I think it's impossible. > > >> > > >> Since Unattended is designed for installing Windows, "producing" > > such a live CD would be a piracy, as it would contain Windows OS... > > >> > > >> However, nothing prevents creating such a CD for a personal use - a= s > > long as your Windows licence allows that. > > >> > > >> Some instructions on how to do that might be useful, too. > > >> > > >> > > > Well we could provide everything we are legally allowed to on such a > > CD and omit everything else but leave well written documents on where t= o > > download and how to put them into your CD image. that way its still > > legal and you can still get what you need. A Pain yes, but we dont want > > to be shut down because of a lapse of judgement > > > > > > Well, I don't think it has to be a "pain" to set up. > > > > We could provide a "live cd" (a one without any proprietary stuff like > > Windows etc.), which would create another live cd ISO image - this time= , > > including Windows (the path to Windows would be specified by a user), > > and other software. > > > > I think, given the limited amount of time I have - I could create it in > > a month or so (maybe wit some help)? > > > > What do you think? Any takers? > > > > >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7412&alloc_id=3D16344&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > unattended-info mailing list > una...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info > |
From: Tomasz C. <ma...@mc...> - 2005-05-24 16:04:15
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Shohn Trojacek schrieb: > It'd be really cool if it were using PXE... First, it would be really cool if it existed :)) -- Tomek |
From: steffen-egal <ste...@gm...> - 2005-05-30 14:08:20
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That would be cool 4 me ! How can I help?=20 Maybe a Knoppix-Remastering? Steffen=20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: una...@li... [mailto:una...@li...] Im Auftrag von = Tomasz Chmielewski Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Mai 2005 08:30 An: Unattended List Betreff: Re: [Unattended] Unattended live Linux CD ? >> I think it's impossible. >> >> Since Unattended is designed for installing Windows, "producing"=20 such a live CD would be a piracy, as it would contain Windows OS... >> >> However, nothing prevents creating such a CD for a personal use - as long as your Windows licence allows that. >> >> Some instructions on how to do that might be useful, too. >> >> > Well we could provide everything we are legally allowed to on such a = CD and omit everything else but leave well written documents on where to download and how to put them into your CD image. that way its still = legal and you can still get what you need. A Pain yes, but we dont want to be = shut down because of a lapse of judgement Well, I don't think it has to be a "pain" to set up. We could provide a "live cd" (a one without any proprietary stuff like Windows etc.), which would create another live cd ISO image - this time, including Windows (the path to Windows would be specified by a user), = and other software. I think, given the limited amount of time I have - I could create it in = a month or so (maybe wit some help)? What do you think? Any takers? -- Tomek ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7412&alloc_id=3D16344&op=3Dclick _______________________________________________ unattended-info mailing list una...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info |
From: Tomasz C. <ma...@mc...> - 2005-05-31 20:18:13
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steffen-egal schrieb: > That would be cool 4 me ! > > How can I help? > Maybe a Knoppix-Remastering? All live CD of my production were based on Mandrake and its mklivecd scripts (which are pretty good for preparing your own CD out of an install you have on a hard disk). A CD based on UnionFS ("writable" CD-ROMs) could be handy. Anyway, it would need some more thorough planning: 1) such a CD need to have Samba, DHCP etc. stuff running (obvious and rather easy to set up) 2) it loads, asks a user for a directory in which he/she keeps win2k, winxp, win2k3 etc., and perhaps software directory. 3) user is asked to provide a ProductID / Key 4) user is asked to choose: a) "start Unattended server now" b) "make a live CD" (is some cases it could be too big for a single CD, so DVD would be ore appropriate) containing Windows install - to start from such a CD in a future without having to configure Product keys / IDs etc. anymore Probably lots of stuff I didn't mention / forgot / didn't think of :) -- Tomek |