Thread: [tuxracer-main] TuxRacer on Windows XP
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From: Malcolm S. <m...@lc...> - 2001-11-25 09:04:04
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Just upgraded (?) to windows xp from windows me; TuxRacer 0.61 now runs at about 2 fps, rather than 40+ fps as it did with the same hardware on win98 and winme. Is this a known problem, and can I fix it? Thanks. -- Malcolm Scott <m...@lc...> .............. webmaster, LinuxResource.org.uk Blessed are they who Go Around in Circles, for they shall be Known as Wheels. |
From: Kenton G. <kgr...@co...> - 2001-11-25 13:48:18
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Windoze XP does not have support for OpenGL. Remember if it isn't a Microsoft standard and it doesn't fit into the plan of Microsoft's total domination, then Microsoft doesn't include it. Your video card vendor will hopefully have an XP driver with OpenGL. That is the only way to get OpenGL back. Ken Malcolm Scott wrote: > Just upgraded (?) to windows xp from windows me; TuxRacer 0.61 now > runs at about 2 fps, rather than 40+ fps as it did with the same > hardware on win98 and winme. Is this a known problem, and can I fix it? > > Thanks. > -- Kenton A. Groombridge kgr...@co... http://home.coastalnow.net/~kgroombr/ |
From: Denis B. <den...@ya...> - 2001-11-25 14:26:16
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Second respond : Microsoft Windows XP is Hardware hungry, you will need 2 more time Mhz do to the same thing... Time to switch to and open OS ! Tuxracer run just great on Linux ;-) -Denis le dim 25-11-2001 =E0 08:48, Kenton Groombridge a =E9crit : > Windoze XP does not have support for OpenGL. Remember if it isn't a=20 > Microsoft standard and it doesn't fit into the plan of Microsoft's total=20 > domination, then Microsoft doesn't include it. >=20 > Your video card vendor will hopefully have an XP driver with OpenGL.=20 > That is the only way to get OpenGL back. >=20 > Ken >=20 > Malcolm Scott wrote: >=20 > > Just upgraded (?) to windows xp from windows me; TuxRacer 0.61 now=20 > > runs at about 2 fps, rather than 40+ fps as it did with the same=20 > > hardware on win98 and winme. Is this a known problem, and can I fix it? > > > > Thanks. > > > --=20 > Kenton A. Groombridge > kgr...@co... > http://home.coastalnow.net/~kgroombr/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > tuxracer-main mailing list > tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxracer-main |
From: Malcolm S. <m...@lc...> - 2001-11-25 17:04:55
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I've changed driver and it works fine now. I do use Linux a lot, but I haven't got tuxracer working properly on=20 Linux yet (sound won't compile - I think I know what the problem is, I=20 need a library, but I haven't downloaded it yet). I only use Windoze=20 when I have to! Denis Bergeron wrote: >Second respond : >Microsoft Windows XP is Hardware hungry, you will need 2 more time Mhz >do to the same thing... > >Time to switch to and open OS ! >Tuxracer run just great on Linux ;-) > >-Denis >le dim 25-11-2001 =E0 08:48, Kenton Groombridge a =E9crit : > >>Windoze XP does not have support for OpenGL. Remember if it isn't a=20 >>Microsoft standard and it doesn't fit into the plan of Microsoft's tota= l=20 >>domination, then Microsoft doesn't include it. >> >>Your video card vendor will hopefully have an XP driver with OpenGL.=20 >> That is the only way to get OpenGL back. >> >>Ken >> >>Malcolm Scott wrote: >> >>>Just upgraded (?) to windows xp from windows me; TuxRacer 0.61 now=20 >>>runs at about 2 fps, rather than 40+ fps as it did with the same=20 >>>hardware on win98 and winme. Is this a known problem, and can I fix it= ? >>> >>>Thanks. >>> >>--=20 >>Kenton A. Groombridge >>kgr...@co... >>http://home.coastalnow.net/~kgroombr/ >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>tuxracer-main mailing list >>tux...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxracer-main >> > --=20 Malcolm Scott <m...@lc...> .............. webmaster, LinuxResource.o= rg.uk Blessed are they who Go Around in Circles, for they shall be Known as Whe= els. |
From: Malcolm S. <m...@lc...> - 2001-11-25 17:25:12
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Just upgraded my graphics driver from the Matrox web site, and it works fine now. Thanks for your help. Kenton Groombridge wrote: > Windoze XP does not have support for OpenGL. Remember if it isn't a > Microsoft standard and it doesn't fit into the plan of Microsoft's > total domination, then Microsoft doesn't include it. > > Your video card vendor will hopefully have an XP driver with OpenGL. > That is the only way to get OpenGL back. > > Ken > > Malcolm Scott wrote: > >> Just upgraded (?) to windows xp from windows me; TuxRacer 0.61 now >> runs at about 2 fps, rather than 40+ fps as it did with the same >> hardware on win98 and winme. Is this a known problem, and can I fix it? >> >> Thanks. >> -- Malcolm Scott <m...@lc...> .............. webmaster, LinuxResource.org.uk Blessed are they who Go Around in Circles, for they shall be Known as Wheels. |
From: Steve B. <sjb...@ai...> - 2001-11-25 18:11:49
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Kenton Groombridge wrote: > > Windoze XP does not have support for OpenGL. That's not true. There are some problems with some of the OpenGL drivers - but then there are problems with lots of Windoze XP drivers. > Remember if it isn't a > Microsoft standard and it doesn't fit into the plan of Microsoft's total > domination, then Microsoft doesn't include it. That's normally true - but they couldn't afford to have every Quake player on the planet decide not to upgrade because it won't run their favorite game. Also almost all "professional" 3D packages like CAD use OpenGL - and that's another section of the user community that M$ wouldn't want to have stuck at a previous OS release. > Your video card vendor will hopefully have an XP driver with OpenGL. > That is the only way to get OpenGL back. It's known that the nVidia drivers are 'flakey' with WinXP...Period. I'd certainly advise against running XP. ----------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------------- Mail : <sjb...@ai...> WorkMail: <sj...@li...> URLs : http://www.sjbaker.org http://plib.sf.net http://tuxaqfh.sf.net http://tuxkart.sf.net http://prettypoly.sf.net http://freeglut.sf.net http://toobular.sf.net http://lodestone.sf.net |
From: Denis B. <den...@ya...> - 2001-11-25 21:59:17
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le dim 25-11-2001 =E0 14:46, Frank Van Damme a =E9crit : > On Monday 26 November 2001 01:43, you wrote: > > Kenton Groombridge wrote: > > > Windoze XP does not have support for OpenGL. > > > > That's not true. > > > > There are some problems with some of the OpenGL drivers - but then ther= e > > are problems with lots of Windoze XP drivers. >=20 > For some reason, older drivers don't work with Xp. Every time MS brings o= ut a=20 > new version of their "os" everything has to be adapted. They do they own competition. If programmers and hardware company take time to adapt they driver for the new MS-OS, they don't have time to make driver for other operating system. It's an old system developed by PizzaHut with an other Pizza company owned by themself ! >=20 > > > Remember if it isn't a > > > Microsoft standard and it doesn't fit into the plan of Microsoft's to= tal > > > domination, then Microsoft doesn't include it. > > > > That's normally true - but they couldn't afford to have every Quake pla= yer > > on the planet decide not to upgrade because it won't run their favorite > > game. >=20 > Indeed. >=20 > > Also almost all "professional" 3D packages like CAD use OpenGL - and th= at's > > another section of the user community that M$ wouldn't want to have stu= ck > > at a previous OS release. > > > > > Your video card vendor will hopefully have an XP driver with OpenGL. > > > That is the only way to get OpenGL back. > > > > It's known that the nVidia drivers are 'flakey' with WinXP...Period. >=20 > It is known (by me anyway) that nVidia is flakey, period. >=20 > > I'd certainly advise against running XP. >=20 > I'd advise against running windows, be it DOS, ce, NT or Fisher Price >=20 > Frank >=20 > _______________________________________________ > tuxracer-main mailing list > tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxracer-main |
From: Kenton G. <kgr...@co...> - 2001-11-25 22:06:23
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I and a friend of mine have loaded several systems with XP and none of them had OpenGL support. They were all based on ATI, Matrox, and nVidia boards. Pretty big players in the video card arena. I just pretty much assumed that if they didn't have OpenGL support for these guys, it just wasn't there. Ken Steve Baker wrote: >Kenton Groombridge wrote: > >>Windoze XP does not have support for OpenGL. >> > >That's not true. > >There are some problems with some of the OpenGL drivers - but then there are >problems with lots of Windoze XP drivers. > >>Remember if it isn't a >>Microsoft standard and it doesn't fit into the plan of Microsoft's total >>domination, then Microsoft doesn't include it. >> > >That's normally true - but they couldn't afford to have every Quake player >on the planet decide not to upgrade because it won't run their favorite game. > >Also almost all "professional" 3D packages like CAD use OpenGL - and that's >another section of the user community that M$ wouldn't want to have stuck at >a previous OS release. > >>Your video card vendor will hopefully have an XP driver with OpenGL. >> That is the only way to get OpenGL back. >> > >It's known that the nVidia drivers are 'flakey' with WinXP...Period. > >I'd certainly advise against running XP. > >----------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------------- >Mail : <sjb...@ai...> WorkMail: <sj...@li...> >URLs : http://www.sjbaker.org > http://plib.sf.net http://tuxaqfh.sf.net http://tuxkart.sf.net > http://prettypoly.sf.net http://freeglut.sf.net > http://toobular.sf.net http://lodestone.sf.net > -- Kenton A. Groombridge kgr...@co... http://home.coastalnow.net/~kgroombr/ |
From: Frank V. D. <one...@ya...> - 2001-11-25 19:37:22
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On Monday 26 November 2001 01:43, you wrote: > Kenton Groombridge wrote: > > Windoze XP does not have support for OpenGL. > > That's not true. > > There are some problems with some of the OpenGL drivers - but then there > are problems with lots of Windoze XP drivers. For some reason, older drivers don't work with Xp. Every time MS brings out a new version of their "os" everything has to be adapted. > > Remember if it isn't a > > Microsoft standard and it doesn't fit into the plan of Microsoft's total > > domination, then Microsoft doesn't include it. > > That's normally true - but they couldn't afford to have every Quake player > on the planet decide not to upgrade because it won't run their favorite > game. Indeed. > Also almost all "professional" 3D packages like CAD use OpenGL - and that's > another section of the user community that M$ wouldn't want to have stuck > at a previous OS release. > > > Your video card vendor will hopefully have an XP driver with OpenGL. > > That is the only way to get OpenGL back. > > It's known that the nVidia drivers are 'flakey' with WinXP...Period. It is known (by me anyway) that nVidia is flakey, period. > I'd certainly advise against running XP. I'd advise against running windows, be it DOS, ce, NT or Fisher Price Frank |
From: Steve B. <sjb...@ai...> - 2001-11-25 22:31:09
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Frank Van Damme wrote: > > It's known that the nVidia drivers are 'flakey' with WinXP...Period. > > It is known (by me anyway) that nVidia is flakey, period. The 1541 drivers under Linux are rock-solid. Dunno about Windoze though. > > I'd certainly advise against running XP. > > I'd advise against running windows, be it DOS, ce, NT or Fisher Price Indeed. But if you are chained to Windoze for some reason - don't upgrade to XP. ----------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------------- Mail : <sjb...@ai...> WorkMail: <sj...@li...> URLs : http://www.sjbaker.org http://plib.sf.net http://tuxaqfh.sf.net http://tuxkart.sf.net http://prettypoly.sf.net http://freeglut.sf.net http://toobular.sf.net http://lodestone.sf.net |
From: Dexter G. <dex...@de...> - 2001-11-26 14:34:47
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XP=Xtra Problems ;) On 26-Nov-01 Steve Baker wrote: > Frank Van Damme wrote: > >> > It's known that the nVidia drivers are 'flakey' with WinXP...Period. >> >> It is known (by me anyway) that nVidia is flakey, period. > > The 1541 drivers under Linux are rock-solid. Dunno about Windoze though. > >> > I'd certainly advise against running XP. >> >> I'd advise against running windows, be it DOS, ce, NT or Fisher Price > > Indeed. But if you are chained to Windoze for some reason - don't upgrade > to XP. > > > ----------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------------- > Mail : <sjb...@ai...> WorkMail: <sj...@li...> > URLs : http://www.sjbaker.org > http://plib.sf.net http://tuxaqfh.sf.net http://tuxkart.sf.net > http://prettypoly.sf.net http://freeglut.sf.net > http://toobular.sf.net http://lodestone.sf.net > > _______________________________________________ > tuxracer-main mailing list > tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxracer-main -- "So I decided that if the architecture is fundamentally sane enough, say it follows some basic rules like it supported paging, then I would be able to say, yes, Linux fundamentally supports that model." -- Linus Torvalds on Portability (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates) ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Dexter Genius <dex...@de...> Date: 26-Nov-01 Time: 15:34:27 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- |
From: Denis B. <den...@ya...> - 2001-11-26 01:07:02
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Sorry, English, it's not my primary language, maybe I can explain. Once upon a time, a company called PizzaHUT sold a lot a Pizza in a medium town in the middle of the USA. They have a aggressive marketing and all other pizzeria in this town close they door. PizzaHut was very happy... but soon after, the selling of pizza begun to declin (people was tired to always eat the same pizza?) so they decide to create a new pizzeria in this town (name it Domino, I just don't have the article in my hand) and people have again the choice, and the number of pizza sold go again in augmentation ! -Denis le dim 25-11-2001 =E0 16:09, Frank Van Damme a =E9crit : >=20 > > > For some reason, older drivers don't work with Xp. Every time MS brin= gs > > > out a new version of their "os" everything has to be adapted. > > > > They do they own competition. Is programmers and hardware company take > > time to adapt they driver for the new MS-OS, they don't have time to > > make driver for other operating system. >=20 > Things like Microsoft are really amazing. And still they can convince any= one=20 > they bring innovation to the computer industry. Same thing for not suppor= ting=20 > new technologies, so that the customer has to buy the new os version. The= re=20 > seems to be something called 'usb2' not supported with Xp. >=20 > > It's an old system developed by PizzaHut with an other Pizza company > > owned by themself ! >=20 > Owned by themself??? How can you do that with pizzas?! >=20 > Frank |