From: <M.H...@ja...> - 2001-01-24 15:08:36
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Hi folks, as noted before, please mail me some questions about 3Dsia that=20 arise especially when you're new to the project. I know there are a lot of = new members here on the list, so please don't hesistate and ask questions=20 ! :-) Marc --- Marc Haisenko Development JANET GmbH -the 3D business company- Garmischer Str.19/21 81377 M=FCnchen Phone: +49 (89) / 54 26 21 - 0 Fax: +49 (89) / 54 26 21 - 15 mailto: mha...@ja... http://www.janet.de |
From: ib.Morgner <ib....@gm...> - 2001-01-24 23:57:35
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Hallo all, As you could read yesterday, we have a little problem making RMC running because of a RPC-problem (RPC ist the transport for RMC). I'm convienced we will solve this problem and I wrote an email to the two guy developing FreeDCE. (last email was not answered - some month ago). This problem could not be as problematical as the developemtn of RMC. From my point of view, The way to RMC is passed by approx. 70% or more. Remember - RMC works well under WinNT - we only have an problem porting it to Linux. If anyone of you has some minutes looking only to the FreeDCE-Project and try to make the sample applications pair "echo-server/echo-vlient" work, I will be greately happy. Second: Is anyone able to make a port to one of the following systems: MacOS 8,9,X Linux: PowerPC, Alpha, MIPS, ibm390, AS400, ibm36, IA64 Solaris BeOS, DOS WfW3.1, WinCE EPOC, PalmOS other OS/Platform Don't worry: some of the systems are providing DCE-RPC. Is anyone able to find some sponsors (even if they are able to give us old Hardware for one of the listes Platforms)? Third: Is anyone out there, who is willing to write a source code Generator for RMC? This mission is one of the main point. The alternative will be, to use a "biomat". In this case, I'm the Biomat. I mean, each RMC-script has to become interpreted by me. Where are the coder around? Good unlock, Manfred. Soner or later, I will make the port, if no one will do it, but the system will look much more friendly, if we have it running on many system from the beginning. |
From: Peter S. <ka...@gm...> - 2001-01-25 11:48:19
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Hmm, I dont even get the DCEthreads compiled (v 2.0.1) it says : cc1: warnings being treated as errors pthread_dce_atfork.c: In function `_pthd4_install_atfork_handler': pthread_dce_atfork.c:119: warning: implicit declaration of function `__pthread_atfork' make[1]: *** [pthread_dce_atfork.lo] Error 1 Which version are you using km ? the cvs pull ? I used the file releases kaltan On Thursday 25 January 2001 00:57, ib.Morgner wrote: > Hallo all, > > As you could read yesterday, we have a little problem making RMC running > because of a RPC-problem (RPC ist the transport for RMC). I'm convienced we > will solve this problem and I wrote an email to the two guy developing > FreeDCE. (last email was not answered - some month ago). > > This problem could not be as problematical as the developemtn of RMC. From > my point of view, The way to RMC is passed by approx. 70% or more. > Remember - RMC works well under WinNT - we only have an problem porting it > to Linux. > > > If anyone of you has some minutes looking only to the FreeDCE-Project and > try to make the sample applications pair "echo-server/echo-vlient" work, I > will be greately happy. > > > Second: > Is anyone able to make a port to one of the following systems: > > MacOS 8,9,X > Linux: PowerPC, Alpha, MIPS, ibm390, AS400, ibm36, IA64 > Solaris > BeOS, DOS > WfW3.1, WinCE > EPOC, PalmOS > other OS/Platform > > Don't worry: some of the systems are providing DCE-RPC. Is anyone able to > find some sponsors (even if they are able to give us old Hardware for one > of the listes Platforms)? > > Third: > Is anyone out there, who is willing to write a source code Generator for > RMC? This mission is one of the main point. The alternative will be, to use > a "biomat". In this case, I'm the Biomat. I mean, each RMC-script has to > become interpreted by me. > > Where are the coder around? > > > Good unlock, > Manfred. > > Soner or later, I will make the port, if no one will do it, but the system > will look much more friendly, if we have it running on many system from the > beginning. > > > _______________________________________________ > Threedsia-dev mailing list > Thr...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/threedsia-dev -- Grabel's Law 2 is not equal to 3 - not even for very large values of 2. |
From: ib.Morgner <ib....@gm...> - 2001-01-25 19:39:29
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Hallo Kaltan, you have to change the name: "__pthd4_instal..." to "pthd4_instal..." then it will compile and install correctly - even if I unsure if this is the correct way. Manfred. : -----Original Message----- : From: thr...@li... : [mailto:thr...@li...]On Behalf Of Peter : Soetens : Sent: Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2001 13:49 : To: thr...@li... : Subject: Re: [Threedsia-dev] RMC / RPC development : : : Hmm, : : I dont even get the DCEthreads compiled (v 2.0.1) : it says : : : cc1: warnings being treated as errors : pthread_dce_atfork.c: In function `_pthd4_install_atfork_handler': : pthread_dce_atfork.c:119: warning: implicit declaration of function : `__pthread_atfork' : make[1]: *** [pthread_dce_atfork.lo] Error 1 : : : Which version are you using km ? the cvs pull ? I used the file releases : : kaltan : : : On Thursday 25 January 2001 00:57, ib.Morgner wrote: : > Hallo all, : > : > As you could read yesterday, we have a little problem making RMC running : > because of a RPC-problem (RPC ist the transport for RMC). I'm : convienced we : > will solve this problem and I wrote an email to the two guy developing : > FreeDCE. (last email was not answered - some month ago). : > : > This problem could not be as problematical as the developemtn : of RMC. From : > my point of view, The way to RMC is passed by approx. 70% or more. : > Remember - RMC works well under WinNT - we only have an problem : porting it : > to Linux. : > : > : > If anyone of you has some minutes looking only to the : FreeDCE-Project and : > try to make the sample applications pair : "echo-server/echo-vlient" work, I : > will be greately happy. : > : > : > Second: : > Is anyone able to make a port to one of the following systems: : > : > MacOS 8,9,X : > Linux: PowerPC, Alpha, MIPS, ibm390, AS400, ibm36, IA64 : > Solaris : > BeOS, DOS : > WfW3.1, WinCE : > EPOC, PalmOS : > other OS/Platform : > : > Don't worry: some of the systems are providing DCE-RPC. Is : anyone able to : > find some sponsors (even if they are able to give us old : Hardware for one : > of the listes Platforms)? : > : > Third: : > Is anyone out there, who is willing to write a source code Generator for : > RMC? This mission is one of the main point. The alternative : will be, to use : > a "biomat". In this case, I'm the Biomat. I mean, each RMC-script has to : > become interpreted by me. : > : > Where are the coder around? : > : > : > Good unlock, : > Manfred. : > : > Soner or later, I will make the port, if no one will do it, but : the system : > will look much more friendly, if we have it running on many : system from the : > beginning. : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > Threedsia-dev mailing list : > Thr...@li... : > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/threedsia-dev : : -- : Grabel's Law : 2 is not equal to 3 - not even for very large values of 2. : : _______________________________________________ : Threedsia-dev mailing list : Thr...@li... : http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/threedsia-dev : |
From: Eric B. <eb...@us...> - 2001-01-26 00:38:23
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I don't know if this is necessaryly the issue but Redhat 7.0 comes with a sometimes questionable compiler which can cause problems with compiling certain things. One way around it is to use kgcc (older more stable version of gcc compiler) instead of gcc (newer experiment compiler) in you Makefiles. I know this was a problem on linux compilations. Eric Bresie eb...@us... |
From: Alexander F. <xandi@3Dsia.cx> - 2001-01-26 00:44:39
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On Friday 26 January 2001 01:38, you wrote: > I don't know if this is necessaryly the issue but Redhat 7.0 comes with a > sometimes questionable compiler which can cause problems with compiling > certain things. > > One way around it is to use kgcc (older more stable version of gcc > compiler) instead of gcc (newer experiment compiler) in you Makefiles. > > I know this was a problem on linux compilations. No worries, the problem is solved and RMC is about to work 100% under Linux. bye Xandi -- xandi@3Dsia.cx - Alexander Feder - Vienna/Austria personal: http://members.blackbox.net/xandi/ project: http://www.3Dsia.org |
From: ib.Morgner <ib....@gm...> - 2001-01-26 00:49:02
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Actually this doesn't touch us. we have found the problem in RPC and the RMC-server-sample is up and running under Linux. Today I will port the client code too. That's why I'm sure, I'm able to upload the first step RMC-project this weekend. May be at Sunday, because I wish to check some features and compatiblity while calling Win32 to Linux and vice versa. Many thanks to Xandi, and beef, how are the heros of this port. Good lock *g*, Manfred |
From: Alexander F. <xandi@3Dsia.cx> - 2001-01-25 23:04:19
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> Second: > Is anyone able to make a port to one of the following systems: > > Linux: PowerPC, Alpha, MIPS, ibm390, AS400, ibm36, IA64 yes, i'll start with a LinuxPPC port tomorrow on my Motorola PowerStack. (finally a reason to use that machine :) bye Xandi -- xandi@3Dsia.cx - Alexander Feder - Vienna/Austria personal: http://members.blackbox.net/xandi/ project: http://www.3Dsia.org |
From: Eric B. <eb...@us...> - 2001-01-26 00:23:37
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Well...here are a few with some answers (although you guys might correct me and fill in some of the blanks, like URLs,etc) - What is xxx? (odb, rmc, 3dsia, ogl, etc)? * odb is the object database being used by 3Dsia. See *URL*. * rmc is the remote method invocation call being used by 3Dsia. This not to be confused with RMI or CORBA, but it provides similar functionality. * ogl is an object oriented wrapper for OpenGL for use with C++. See *URL*. - Where do I get xxxx? (odb, rmc, ogl, 3dsia, etc) * odb. See *URL* * rmc See *URL for RMC* * 3Dsia See *URL for 3Dsia* - Why aren't we using API xxxx? (CORBA, DCE, etc) * CORBA has been determined to have additional overhead that 3Dsia developers wish to avoid. RMC provides all the desired functionality we need, keeping the process simple. * DCE has additional commonents that are unnecessary for 3Dsia. However we do use the RPC functionality of DCE. Additional functionality may be used (such as security) at a later time if needed. - Where can I get documentation for xxx? (API, Programming Guide, Users Manual, etc) * Documentation is available as part of the CVS source tree, and additional documentation will be developed at a later time. - Where can I get additional information (links)? * See Links section at the 3Dsia site. - What graphic API do you use? (Berlin, Crystal Space, Open GL, etc) * The intent is to hide as much of the functionality as possible. Most of the graphics apis will be handled by the Object Oriented OpenGL (ogl) APIs, and may also use Berlin and Crystal Space, depending upon how 3Dsia is implemented. - Where can I get 3Dsia applications? * See application download section, once applications have been developed. - What language do you program in? (C++, Python, etc) * 3Dsia is developed primarily in C++ but will also have bindings to use python, perl and other languages at a future time. - How do I install 3Dsia? ODB? RMC? * See Installation documentation which will be produced soon. - Is there a list of 3Dsia servers?/What server can I connect to? * Due to the early nature of the project, there are no major servers available at this time. But http://3dsia.liquidsteel.net/ is planned to host a 3Dsia server once it is functioning properly. - Is there an IRC channel? * #3dsia on *IRC Server* - Do you use VRML? Why don't you use VRML? * VRML although providing much of the functionality needed, has been deemed to contain a great deal of overhead that the 3Dsia developers which to avoid. - Will you have 2D Windows support? * 3Dsia is intended to represent 3D cyber space based applications. Although many 2D based applications may be ported to use some 2D widget, that is not the intent of 3Dsia. - How can I help? * Join the mailing list and partipate on the IRC channel. Every so often there are development meetings where additional work is done. You might want to group them into additional sections like Programming, Applications, Installation, etc. Some of this I know does not exist, but these are all questions that will arise as the project progresses. You may also want to look back in the archives for a thread intitles Mini-FAQ for additional questions. http://lists.sourceforge.net/archives//threedsia-dev/2000-November/000547.ht ml Oh well...cheers. Eric Bresie eb...@us... |
From: Marc H. <ax...@cu...> - 2001-01-26 07:15:26
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> Oh well...cheers. > > Eric Bresie > eb...@us... Yes ! Thanks ! That's just like what I liked ! :-) Marc -- Marc Haisenko The 3Dsia Project (http://threedsia.sourceforge.net) mailto: ax...@cu... mailto: M.H...@ja... |
From: Eric B. <eb...@us...> - 2001-01-30 23:45:28
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Hmmm...anyone notice how the archives of the mailing list don't seem to be working correctly. Anyone have any ideas on this one? http://lists.sourceforge.net/archives//threedsia-dev/ I was trying to find the FAQ web address and can't find it and it hasn't reached the archives yet. Or does this not happen until the end of the month? Are there alternative archive sites with current mail info? Eric Bresie eb...@us... |
From: Alexander F. <xandi@3Dsia.cx> - 2001-01-31 00:00:08
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On Wednesday 31 January 2001 00:45, you wrote: > Hmmm...anyone notice how the archives of the mailing list don't seem to be > working correctly. > > Anyone have any ideas on this one? > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/archives//threedsia-dev/ that's the wrong place to look for the archive; the right place is here: http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/690/0/ bye Xandi -- xandi@3Dsia.cx - Alexander Feder - Vienna/Austria personal: http://members.blackbox.net/xandi/ project: http://www.3Dsia.org |
From: Eric B. <eb...@us...> - 2001-01-31 00:16:34
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> From: On Behalf Of Alexander Feder > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 6:01 PM > > On Wednesday 31 January 2001 00:45, you wrote: > > Hmmm...anyone notice how the archives of the mailing list don't seem to be > > working correctly. > > > > Anyone have any ideas on this one? > > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/archives//threedsia-dev/ > that's the wrong place to look for the archive; the right place is here: > http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/690/0/ That's what's listed on the web page...we might want to update that... http://threedsia.sourceforge.net/dev.html#mailinglist which takes you to http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/threedsia-dev Which gives the wrong site...someone want to pass that on to the SF guys? Eric Bresie eb...@us... |