From: Yury K. <kat...@gm...> - 2013-08-16 06:12:17
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Hi guys! Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something like that maybe? http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png Cheers! ----- Yury Katkov, WikiVote |
From: Nico F. <Ar...@gm...> - 2013-08-16 07:17:21
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<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: 12.0px;"><div> <div> <div>Hi Yuri,<br/> </div> I am trying hard on getting the main features of former SMW+ extension Enhanced Retrieval to work again. Currently, solr-based indexing works via solr dataimporthandler and the search page offers facetting based on ajax-solr, although it looks kind of ugly, as in my wiki it mainly shows template calls. My main problem is my lack of knowledge concerning Javascript and its dependencies towards Ontoprise's ScriptManager, which causes problems between jQuery and Prototype.js in other contexts like Semantic Result Formats.<br/> </div> <div>I plan to submit it to the community in the next weeks. See also at http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/OntoLTS</div> <div> </div> <div>Regards</div> <div> </div> <div>Nico</div> <div> <div name="quote" style="margin:10px 5px 5px 10px; padding: 10px 0 10px 10px; border-left:2px solid #C3D9E5; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"> <div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 16. August 2013 um 08:11 Uhr<br/> <b>Von:</b> "Yury Katkov" <kat...@gm...><br/> <b>An:</b> "Semantic MediaWiki users" <sem...@li...>, "SMW developer list" <sem...@li...><br/> <b>Betreff:</b> [SMW-devel] Status of faceted search for SMW</div> <div name="quoted-content"> <div>Hi guys! <div> </div> <div>Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something like that maybe? <a href="http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png</a></div> <div> </div> <div>Cheers! <div>-----<br/> Yury Katkov, WikiVote<br/> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html> |
From: Lists <li...@ps...> - 2013-08-16 12:58:34
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Hi, I was workiing with SMWPlus and still work with SMW Classic for customers since several years now. I also had build a search engine for MW and optimized the install process for Solr and SMWPlus together with Ontoprise. >From my perspective canceling the "Prototype.js-dependency" would be the FIRST requirement to get something for production long term maintainable. The coresponding SMWPlus-code looks some how weired and complex. I would guess building a complete new solution based on Solr would be easier and more robust- so the better approach... although looking what Ontoprise did in some situations would help. c u stevie -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Nico Frieling [mailto:Ar...@gm...] Gesendet: Freitag, 16. August 2013 09:17 An: Yury Katkov Cc: SMW developer list; Semantic MediaWiki users Betreff: Re: [SMW-devel] Status of faceted search for SMW Hi Yuri, I am trying hard on getting the main features of former SMW+ extension Enhanced Retrieval to work again. Currently, solr-based indexing works via solr dataimporthandler and the search page offers facetting based on ajax-solr, although it looks kind of ugly, as in my wiki it mainly shows template calls. My main problem is my lack of knowledge concerning Javascript and its dependencies towards Ontoprise's ScriptManager, which causes problems between jQuery and Prototype.js in other contexts like Semantic Result Formats. I plan to submit it to the community in the next weeks. See also at http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/OntoLTS Regards Nico Gesendet: Freitag, 16. August 2013 um 08:11 Uhr Von: "Yury Katkov" <kat...@gm...> An: "Semantic MediaWiki users" <sem...@li...>, "SMW developer list" <sem...@li...> Betreff: [SMW-devel] Status of faceted search for SMW Hi guys! Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something like that maybe? http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png Cheers! ----- Yury Katkov, WikiVote |
From: Yaron K. <ya...@wi...> - 2013-08-16 12:56:22
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Hi Yury, There are, of course, a number of existing faceted search solutions that don't require any patches: - The Semantic Drilldown extension - The Special:RunQuery page of Semantic Forms - The "filtered" result format in Semantic Result Formats (I'm assuming it still works, though I don't know) - The SolrStore extension (again, I assume it works) - Miga (http://migadv.com) - not a MediaWiki extension, but can be used to provide a faceted search interface for SMW data My guess is that you have some specific interface requirement, like that it should look like Exhibit, but I don't know. -Yaron On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...> wrote: > Hi guys! > > Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their > implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does > anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something like > that maybe? http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png > > Cheers! > ----- > Yury Katkov, WikiVote > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com |
From: Yury K. <kat...@gm...> - 2013-08-16 13:27:22
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Hi Yaron! My basic requirement for faceted search is that it must be a faceted search, that is: 1) It must include good full-text search engine. Ideally with morphology support. Super ideally - with some fancy things like search query analysis and adaptive algorithms. 2) It must include filters (facets) that works together with good full-text search engine. it seems that Drilldown, Miga and filtered don't have (1). I'm trying SolrSearch now. ----- Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wi...> wrote: > Hi Yury, > > There are, of course, a number of existing faceted search solutions that > don't require any patches: > > - The Semantic Drilldown extension > - The Special:RunQuery page of Semantic Forms > - The "filtered" result format in Semantic Result Formats (I'm assuming it > still works, though I don't know) > - The SolrStore extension (again, I assume it works) > - Miga (http://migadv.com) - not a MediaWiki extension, but can be used to > provide a faceted search interface for SMW data > > My guess is that you have some specific interface requirement, like that it > should look like Exhibit, but I don't know. > > -Yaron > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...> wrote: >> >> Hi guys! >> >> Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their >> implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does >> anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something >> like >> that maybe? http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png >> >> Cheers! >> ----- >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! >> It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. >> Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. >> Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Semediawiki-user mailing list >> Sem...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > > > > > -- > WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com |
From: David H. M. <vid...@zo...> - 2013-08-16 13:54:48
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You may want to wait until WMF selects a search solution: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search That way people won't have to set up Solr & whatever else is selected, if it's not Solr. (I'm hoping for ElasticSearch, which is also based on Lucene and is currently a little easier to manage, though they're both quite simple these days). The addition of decent search for MW/SMW will be very much welcome, as would interactive faceted search. I would be able to help with front end (Javascript) work on this. I've already written custom facetted search for MW using Solr. But ideally it will work with existing Semantic Result Formats without hacks. David On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 05:26:30PM +0400, Yury Katkov wrote: > Hi Yaron! > > My basic requirement for faceted search is that it must be a faceted > search, that is: > > 1) It must include good full-text search engine. Ideally with > morphology support. Super ideally - with some fancy things like search > query analysis and adaptive algorithms. > 2) It must include filters (facets) that works together with good > full-text search engine. > > it seems that Drilldown, Miga and filtered don't have (1). I'm trying > SolrSearch now. > ----- > Yury Katkov, WikiVote > > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wi...> wrote: > > Hi Yury, > > > > There are, of course, a number of existing faceted search solutions that > > don't require any patches: > > > > - The Semantic Drilldown extension > > - The Special:RunQuery page of Semantic Forms > > - The "filtered" result format in Semantic Result Formats (I'm assuming it > > still works, though I don't know) > > - The SolrStore extension (again, I assume it works) > > - Miga (http://migadv.com) - not a MediaWiki extension, but can be used to > > provide a faceted search interface for SMW data > > > > My guess is that you have some specific interface requirement, like that it > > should look like Exhibit, but I don't know. > > > > -Yaron > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...> wrote: > >> > >> Hi guys! > >> > >> Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their > >> implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does > >> anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something > >> like > >> that maybe? http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png > >> > >> Cheers! > >> ----- > >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > >> It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > >> Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > >> Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > >> > >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Semediawiki-user mailing list > >> Sem...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > > > > > > > > > > -- > > WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel |
From: Mark A. H. <ma...@ev...> - 2013-08-16 14:15:32
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On 08/16/2013 09:37 AM, David H. Mason wrote: > You may want to wait until WMF selects a search solution: > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search > > That way people won't have to set up Solr & whatever else is selected, if it's not > Solr. (I'm hoping for ElasticSearch, which is also based on Lucene and is > currently a little easier to manage, though they're both quite simple these > days) Just today there was a thread that announced ElasticSearch is what they've settled on and put up on test2: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/71994 -- http://hexmode.com/ Love alone reveals the true shape of the universe. -- "Everywhere Present", Stephen Freeman |
From: Yury K. <kat...@gm...> - 2013-08-16 14:16:25
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hmmm? Is it likely to meet (2) requirement? > 2) It must include filters (facets) that works together with good > full-text search engine. ----- Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 5:37 PM, David H. Mason <vid...@zo...> wrote: > > You may want to wait until WMF selects a search solution: > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search > > That way people won't have to set up Solr & whatever else is selected, if it's not > Solr. (I'm hoping for ElasticSearch, which is also based on Lucene and is > currently a little easier to manage, though they're both quite simple these > days). > > The addition of decent search for MW/SMW will be very much welcome, as would > interactive faceted search. I would be able to help with front end (Javascript) > work on this. I've already written custom facetted search for MW using Solr. > But ideally it will work with existing Semantic Result Formats without hacks. > > David > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 05:26:30PM +0400, Yury Katkov wrote: >> Hi Yaron! >> >> My basic requirement for faceted search is that it must be a faceted >> search, that is: >> >> 1) It must include good full-text search engine. Ideally with >> morphology support. Super ideally - with some fancy things like search >> query analysis and adaptive algorithms. >> 2) It must include filters (facets) that works together with good >> full-text search engine. >> >> it seems that Drilldown, Miga and filtered don't have (1). I'm trying >> SolrSearch now. >> ----- >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wi...> wrote: >> > Hi Yury, >> > >> > There are, of course, a number of existing faceted search solutions that >> > don't require any patches: >> > >> > - The Semantic Drilldown extension >> > - The Special:RunQuery page of Semantic Forms >> > - The "filtered" result format in Semantic Result Formats (I'm assuming it >> > still works, though I don't know) >> > - The SolrStore extension (again, I assume it works) >> > - Miga (http://migadv.com) - not a MediaWiki extension, but can be used to >> > provide a faceted search interface for SMW data >> > >> > My guess is that you have some specific interface requirement, like that it >> > should look like Exhibit, but I don't know. >> > >> > -Yaron >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi guys! >> >> >> >> Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their >> >> implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does >> >> anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something >> >> like >> >> that maybe? http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png >> >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> ----- >> >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! >> >> It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. >> >> Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. >> >> Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. >> >> >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Semediawiki-user mailing list >> >> Sem...@li... >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! >> It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. >> Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. >> Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >> Sem...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel |
From: David H. M. <vid...@zo...> - 2013-08-16 15:48:20
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Yes, ElasticSearch supports facets http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/api/search/facets/ and, being built on Lucene (like Solr), it's a very good full-text search engine with considerable language facilities. It's very easy to work with and I'm happy that WMF has selected it (if only it were a triple store, though there is https://github.com/lobid/lodmill it's too much for most installs. But IMO there would still be huge advantages for SMW to take advantage of ES along with Javascript/API development). David On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 06:15:48PM +0400, Yury Katkov wrote: > hmmm? Is it likely to meet (2) requirement? > > > 2) It must include filters (facets) that works together with good > > full-text search engine. > ----- > Yury Katkov, WikiVote > > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 5:37 PM, David H. Mason > <vid...@zo...> wrote: > > > > You may want to wait until WMF selects a search solution: > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search > > > > That way people won't have to set up Solr & whatever else is selected, if it's not > > Solr. (I'm hoping for ElasticSearch, which is also based on Lucene and is > > currently a little easier to manage, though they're both quite simple these > > days). > > > > The addition of decent search for MW/SMW will be very much welcome, as would > > interactive faceted search. I would be able to help with front end (Javascript) > > work on this. I've already written custom facetted search for MW using Solr. > > But ideally it will work with existing Semantic Result Formats without hacks. > > > > David > > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 05:26:30PM +0400, Yury Katkov wrote: > >> Hi Yaron! > >> > >> My basic requirement for faceted search is that it must be a faceted > >> search, that is: > >> > >> 1) It must include good full-text search engine. Ideally with > >> morphology support. Super ideally - with some fancy things like search > >> query analysis and adaptive algorithms. > >> 2) It must include filters (facets) that works together with good > >> full-text search engine. > >> > >> it seems that Drilldown, Miga and filtered don't have (1). I'm trying > >> SolrSearch now. > >> ----- > >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wi...> wrote: > >> > Hi Yury, > >> > > >> > There are, of course, a number of existing faceted search solutions that > >> > don't require any patches: > >> > > >> > - The Semantic Drilldown extension > >> > - The Special:RunQuery page of Semantic Forms > >> > - The "filtered" result format in Semantic Result Formats (I'm assuming it > >> > still works, though I don't know) > >> > - The SolrStore extension (again, I assume it works) > >> > - Miga (http://migadv.com) - not a MediaWiki extension, but can be used to > >> > provide a faceted search interface for SMW data > >> > > >> > My guess is that you have some specific interface requirement, like that it > >> > should look like Exhibit, but I don't know. > >> > > >> > -Yaron > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi guys! > >> >> > >> >> Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their > >> >> implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does > >> >> anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something > >> >> like > >> >> that maybe? http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png > >> >> > >> >> Cheers! > >> >> ----- > >> >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > >> >> It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > >> >> Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > >> >> Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > >> >> > >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Semediawiki-user mailing list > >> >> Sem...@li... > >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > >> It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > >> Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > >> Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Semediawiki-devel mailing list > >> Sem...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel |
From: Joel N. <joe...@gm...> - 2013-08-16 18:54:21
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Hi folks, We're also salvaging Enhanced Retrieval from the SMW+ project and upgrading Solr to the latest version to take advantage of Solr geospatial support. We aim to give it back to the community before SMWCon Fall 2013. Best, Joel ======================================================= Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text) Imagine Different! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY) On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...> wrote: > Hi guys! > > Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their > implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does > anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something like > that maybe? http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png > > Cheers! > ----- > Yury Katkov, WikiVote > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > > |
From: David H. M. <vid...@zo...> - 2013-08-16 19:01:46
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hi Joel, For your consideration, ElasticSearch also supports geospatial features. It will certainly make people's lives easier to support just one indexing system. I ported a system from Solr to ElasticSearch in less than one day. David On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Joel Natividad wrote: > Hi folks, > We're also salvaging Enhanced Retrieval from the SMW+ project and > upgrading Solr to the latest version to take advantage of Solr geospatial > support. A We aim to give it back to the community before SMWCon Fall > 2013. > Best, > Joel > ======================================================= > Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text) > Imagine Different! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY) > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...> > wrote: > > Hi guys!A > Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their > implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. > A Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? > Something like that maybe?A http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png > Cheers!A > ----- > Yury Katkov, WikiVote > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel |
From: Joel N. <joe...@gm...> - 2013-08-18 21:25:05
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Thanks for the tip David! Will be sure to let the engineer who reverse-engineered Enhanced Retrieval take a look at it. It does seem ElasticSearch is the way to go, especially now that WMF selected it. One other search-related aspect of SMW+ we're looking into is how it did autocomplete in the search bar, where it also showed the Category/Class, along with the article/instance name. I know Yaron is also considering revamping Semantic Drilldown, which is a form of faceted search. Perhaps all these search-related efforts can be coordinated? - Joel ======================================================= Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text) Imagine Different! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY) On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:59 PM, David H. Mason < vid...@zo...> wrote: > > hi Joel, > > For your consideration, ElasticSearch also supports geospatial features. It > will certainly make people's lives easier to support just one indexing > system. > I ported a system from Solr to ElasticSearch in less than one day. > > David > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Joel Natividad wrote: > > Hi folks, > > We're also salvaging Enhanced Retrieval from the SMW+ project and > > upgrading Solr to the latest version to take advantage of Solr > geospatial > > support. A We aim to give it back to the community before SMWCon Fall > > 2013. > > Best, > > Joel > > ======================================================= > > Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text) > > Imagine Different! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY) > > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...> > > wrote: > > > > Hi guys!A > > Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on > their > > implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. > > A Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? > > Something like that maybe?A http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png > > Cheers!A > > ----- > > Yury Katkov, WikiVote > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > > Sem...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > _______________________________________________ > > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > > Sem...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > > |
From: John M. <jmc...@hy...> - 2013-08-21 01:01:48
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Hi Joel - are you thinking of keeping the client but swapping out the backend? Maybe Solarium is a good thing to integrate to enhanced retrieval, but now there's a new kid on the block called Elastica, so maybe encapsulate both APIs that so it can be seamlessly swapped out should the time come. IOW I'm thinking enhanced retrieval could be configured for either SOLR or ES backends. Of course, what makes Enhanced Retrieval nice is that it already has a working client, integrated/tested already with SMW. I think for many SMW+ applications, the distributed architecture of the ES indexing/storage engine (the real difference between the two), matters quite little. Unfortunately the working client is not jq based, so you're right that the proitotype.js needs to be swapped out to make the extension work on MW 1.18+. Huzzahs to you for your work! Thanks - john -----Original Message----- From: Joel Natividad [mailto:joe...@gm...] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:24 PM To: David H. Mason Cc: Semantic MediaWiki users; SMW developer list Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] Status of faceted search for SMW Thanks for the tip David! Will be sure to let the engineer who reverse-engineered Enhanced Retrieval take a look at it. It does seem ElasticSearch is the way to go, especially now that WMF selected it. One other search-related aspect of SMW+ we're looking into is how it did autocomplete in the search bar, where it also showed the Category/Class, along with the article/instance name. I know Yaron is also considering revamping Semantic Drilldown, which is a form of faceted search. Perhaps all these search-related efforts can be coordinated? - Joel ======================================================= Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text) Imagine Different! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY) On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:59 PM, David H. Mason <vid...@zo...> wrote: hi Joel, For your consideration, ElasticSearch also supports geospatial features. It will certainly make people's lives easier to support just one indexing system. I ported a system from Solr to ElasticSearch in less than one day. David On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Joel Natividad wrote: > Hi folks, > We're also salvaging Enhanced Retrieval from the SMW+ project and > upgrading Solr to the latest version to take advantage of Solr geospatial > support. A We aim to give it back to the community before SMWCon Fall > 2013. > Best, > Joel > ======================================================= > Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text) > Imagine Different! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY) > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...> > wrote: > > Hi guys!A > Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their > implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. > A Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? > Something like that maybe?A http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png > Cheers!A > ----- > Yury Katkov, WikiVote > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel |
From: Jie B. <ba...@gm...> - 2013-08-21 02:37:18
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We have been using elasticsearch for faceted searching our internal semantic wikis for more than a year now. So far we are very happy about its performance and its easiness to connect to a faceted search frontend. I am happy to hear that WMF will use ES. -- Jie On Aug 16, 2013 12:02 PM, "David H. Mason" <vid...@zo...> wrote: > > hi Joel, > > For your consideration, ElasticSearch also supports geospatial features. It > will certainly make people's lives easier to support just one indexing > system. > I ported a system from Solr to ElasticSearch in less than one day. > > David > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Joel Natividad wrote: > > Hi folks, > > We're also salvaging Enhanced Retrieval from the SMW+ project and > > upgrading Solr to the latest version to take advantage of Solr > geospatial > > support. A We aim to give it back to the community before SMWCon Fall > > 2013. > > Best, > > Joel > > ======================================================= > > Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text) > > Imagine Different! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY) > > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...> > > wrote: > > > > Hi guys!A > > Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on > their > > implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. > > A Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? > > Something like that maybe?A http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png > > Cheers!A > > ----- > > Yury Katkov, WikiVote > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > > Sem...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > _______________________________________________ > > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > > Sem...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > |
From: Joel N. <joe...@gm...> - 2013-08-22 20:34:36
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Hi John, We're just "scratching an itch" and giving it back to the community in the hope to make it more robust in the spirit of OSS. And John, if you do have the manual, can I get a copy? Better yet, maybe you can post it http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Enhanced_Retrieval or some other publicly accessible forum? Best, Joel ======================================================= Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text) Imagine Different! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY) On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Jie Bao <ba...@gm...> wrote: > We have been using elasticsearch for faceted searching our internal > semantic wikis for more than a year now. So far we are very happy about its > performance and its easiness to connect to a faceted search frontend. I am > happy to hear that WMF will use ES. -- Jie > On Aug 16, 2013 12:02 PM, "David H. Mason" < > vid...@zo...> wrote: > >> >> hi Joel, >> >> For your consideration, ElasticSearch also supports geospatial features. >> It >> will certainly make people's lives easier to support just one indexing >> system. >> I ported a system from Solr to ElasticSearch in less than one day. >> >> David >> >> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Joel Natividad wrote: >> > Hi folks, >> > We're also salvaging Enhanced Retrieval from the SMW+ project and >> > upgrading Solr to the latest version to take advantage of Solr >> geospatial >> > support. A We aim to give it back to the community before SMWCon Fall >> > 2013. >> > Best, >> > Joel >> > ======================================================= >> > Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text) >> > Imagine Different! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY) >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm... >> > >> > wrote: >> > >> > Hi guys!A >> > Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on >> their >> > implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. >> > A Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? >> > Something like that maybe?A http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png >> > Cheers!A >> > ----- >> > Yury Katkov, WikiVote >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! >> > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. >> > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. >> > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. >> > >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Semediawiki-devel mailing list >> > Sem...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >> >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! >> > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. >> > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. >> > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. >> > >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Semediawiki-devel mailing list >> > Sem...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! >> It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. >> Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. >> Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >> Sem...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >> > |
From: <jmc...@hy...> - 2013-08-22 20:49:16
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cool - i've got itches all over all the time :)/ I also have smw+ forum too, but it's in sql.gz so I'm aiming to bring it up in Sep - if someone else would like to do this plz contact me. Let me dig up the pdf and get it out this weekend On 22.08.2013 13:33, Joel Natividad wrote: > Hi John, > We're just "scratching an itch" and giving it back to the community in the hope to make it more robust in the spirit of OSS. > > And John, if you do have the manual, can I get a copy? Better yet, maybe you can post it http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Enhanced_Retrieval [6] or some other publicly accessible forum? > > Best, > Joel > > ======================================================= > Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text [1]) > Imagine Different! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY [2]) > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Jie Bao <ba...@gm...> wrote: > >> We have been using elasticsearch for faceted searching our internal semantic wikis for more than a year now. So far we are very happy about its performance and its easiness to connect to a faceted search frontend. I am happy to hear that WMF will use ES. -- Jie >> >> On Aug 16, 2013 12:02 PM, "David H. Mason" <vid...@zo...> wrote: >> >>> hi Joel, >>> >>> For your consideration, ElasticSearch also supports geospatial features. It >>> will certainly make people's lives easier to support just one indexing system. >>> I ported a system from Solr to ElasticSearch in less than one day. >>> >>> David >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Joel Natividad wrote: >>> > Hi folks, >>> > We're also salvaging Enhanced Retrieval from the SMW+ project and >>> > upgrading Solr to the latest version to take advantage of Solr geospatial >>> > support. A We aim to give it back to the community before SMWCon Fall >>> > 2013. >>> > Best, >>> > Joel >>> > ======================================================= >>> > Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text [1]) >>> > Imagine Different! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY [2]) >>> > >>> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov <kat...@gm...> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi guys!A >>> > Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their >>> > implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. >>> > A Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? >>> > Something like that maybe?A http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png [3] >>> > Cheers!A >>> > ----- >>> > Yury Katkov, WikiVote >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! >>> > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. >>> > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. >>> > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. >>> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk [4] >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Semediawiki-devel mailing list >>> > Sem...@li... >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel [5] >>> >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! >>> > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. >>> > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. >>> > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. >>> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk [4] >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Semediawiki-devel mailing list >>> > Sem...@li... >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel [5] >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! >>> It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. >>> Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. >>> Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk [4] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >>> Sem...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel [5] Links: ------ [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY [3] http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png [4] http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk [5] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel [6] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Enhanced_Retrieval |