From: Norman W. <nd...@nw...> - 2003-08-04 21:49:36
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Now that I can build it, some new issues 1. I really appreciate the addition of folders on the left hand side. That's been on my "todo" list for a while now. (And now I don't have to, thanks!) 2. I can't run it anymore. I mean it runs once and then when I exit it says: java.sql.SQLException: No suitable driver at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:532) at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:171) ... When I try to load it again, it just hangs. Do we really need a database backend? Can't we just store the feeds in XML? 3. I hate the two-panel right hand side. I'd infinitely prefer a right hand side that simply showed the title, link, and description of each item. I *do not* want to have to click on the titles to see the descriptions. 4. I crafted a "remember items" option for each feed that seems to have been removed (at least it's no longer in the UI). This is important functionality for me. I have feeds (e.g., my todo list) where I want an item that does not appear in a subsequent update of the feed to vanish immediately. Can that be put back? Be seeing you, norm - -- Norman Walsh <nd...@nw...> | There's no place like 127.0.0.1. http://nwalsh.com/ | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.7 <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> iD8DBQE/LtS1OyltUcwYWjsRAsbGAJ9ASepyNh3dwALQ91ghxppL6lql4gCfUiFi 4XvSWIYGcIQfGDtEotaZfi4= =CrNp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Christoph W. <e93...@st...> - 2003-08-04 22:06:59
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Hi, >2. I can't run it anymore. I mean it runs once and then when I exit it says: > > java.sql.SQLException: No suitable driver > at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:532) > at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:171) > ... > > When I try to load it again, it just hangs. > > Do we really need a database backend? Can't we just store the feeds in XML? > > The problem with the SQLException is somehow strange - did you update your lib directory and your manifest file? Is a hsqldb.jar file in your lib and a Class-Path reference to the jar in your manifest? The big pro of the database ist that its very fast and if you store a large number of articles this will get performance critical... >3. I hate the two-panel right hand side. I'd infinitely prefer a right > hand side that simply showed the title, link, and description of > each item. I *do not* want to have to click on the titles to see the > descriptions. > > Hm, what do you think about a "switchable" look - email client like and the old list look? >4. I crafted a "remember items" option for each feed that seems to have been > removed (at least it's no longer in the UI). > > This is important functionality for me. I have feeds (e.g., my todo list) > where I want an item that does not appear in a subsequent update of the > feed to vanish immediately. Can that be put back? > I removed this options from UI they are still in the model. I can put that back. Am I right if this switch should trigger that only the actual feed content should be displayed and old items regardless if they were read or unread should be dropped? Ciao Christoph -- Christoph Walcher Email: chr...@we... Max-Winter-Platz 7/16 Tel: +43 (1) 9460866 A-1020 Vienna Mobil: +43 (699) 194609867 |
From: Norman W. <nd...@nw...> - 2003-08-05 14:39:02
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 / Christoph Walcher <e93...@st...> was heard to say: | The problem with the SQLException is somehow strange - did you update | your lib directory and your manifest file? Is a hsqldb.jar file in | your lib and a Class-Path reference to the jar in your manifest? Ah. My bad. The shell script I was using to start rssview was still pointing into the build/classes directory instead of pointing at the jar. All fixed. | The big pro of the database ist that its very fast and if you store a | large number of articles this will get performance critical... Where is the database, by the way? |>3. I hate the two-panel right hand side. I'd infinitely prefer a right |> hand side that simply showed the title, link, and description of |> each item. I *do not* want to have to click on the titles to see the |> descriptions. |> | Hm, what do you think about a "switchable" look - email client like | and the old list look? That's fine. Better still if there's a preference to choose the default. |>4. I crafted a "remember items" option for each feed that seems to have been |> removed (at least it's no longer in the UI). |> |> This is important functionality for me. I have feeds (e.g., my todo list) |> where I want an item that does not appear in a subsequent update of the |> feed to vanish immediately. Can that be put back? |> | I removed this options from UI they are still in the model. I can put | that back. Am I right if this switch should trigger that only the | actual feed content should be displayed and old items regardless if | they were read or unread should be dropped? Yep. Thanks! (And thanks for the hot fix; I can't update right at the moment but I will as soon as I can.) Be seeing you, norm - -- Norman Walsh <nd...@nw...> | What is familiar is what we are used http://nwalsh.com/ | to; and what we are used to is most | difficult to 'Know'--that is, to see as | a problem; that is, to see as strange, | as distant, as 'outside us'.--Nietzsche -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.7 <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> iD8DBQE/L8E/OyltUcwYWjsRAkVhAKChvFpYz1zKsK4WWgc+jdEMSTbbkQCfUaXv AAdYQBbfkI/MNzKaR5d6Eao= =qFqQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Christoph W. <e93...@st...> - 2003-08-05 18:21:16
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Hi, Norman Walsh wrote: >Where is the database, by the way? > > It is hypersonic sql in file mode. You can find the files in your home directory named .rssviewdb there you can find a scripts and properties file. I just noticed an error in the current CVS version its named rssviewdb which linux/unix users will not like that much I think... Fixed it! If you added a couple of channels - just copy the files and everything will work fine after update. >That's fine. Better still if there's a preference to choose the default. > > Yes - choosing a default look in the preferences dialog would be cool - I hate it if I shut down rssview in Compact/Small mode and it comes up in that mode again :) The items should be in order - because they are by default ordered by received time - If two items are received in the same millisecond we get a problem :( Is the hotfix working beside of items ordering? Had not time to test it... I tried some tricks to get the LHS bigger but did not really work - I'll put it on my list. I removed the xmlpill icon due to copyright issues - got a mail back from the AmphetaDesk guy! Thank you martin for your advice. Ciao Christoph PS: Do you thread this mailing list - if so I will avoid using these "mass" reply style and write 2 or 3 replies. -- Christoph Walcher Email: chr...@we... Max-Winter-Platz 7/16 Tel: +43 (1) 9460866 A-1020 Vienna Mobil: +43 (699) 194609867 |
From: Norman W. <nd...@nw...> - 2003-08-05 19:35:33
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 / Christoph Walcher <e93...@st...> was heard to say: | The items should be in order - because they are by default ordered by | received time - If two items are received in the same millisecond we | get a problem :( But suppose I get a RSS feed that contains items A, B, and C. It doesn't that they occur in the right hand side panel in the same order that they appear in the RSS file. Shouldn't they? | Is the hotfix working beside of items ordering? Had not time to test it... I haven't gotten out from behind VPN to do another update yet, sorry. This is still the pre-hotfix version that I'm running. | PS: Do you thread this mailing list - if so I will avoid using these | "mass" reply style and write 2 or 3 replies. My email reader will handle threads. But do whatever's most convenient for you, it's not like we have a huge volume of traffic (yet :-) Be seeing you, norm - -- Norman Walsh <nd...@nw...> | Time wounds all heels. http://nwalsh.com/ | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.7 <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> iD8DBQE/MAbgOyltUcwYWjsRAmHuAJ9HFPuZL3YAJuOtZ9L7fr0GO/zAUACcCKb4 ZW2WUk8vz6tkoB7yEBwWsY8= =V0Nt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Martin K. <ci...@gm...> - 2003-08-05 20:32:28
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On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 20:20, Christoph Walcher wrote: > Yes - choosing a default look in the preferences dialog would be cool - > I hate it if I shut down rssview in Compact/Small mode and it comes up > in that mode again :) But me not! :) I like when I shutdown an application and it comes up with the settings I gave it last time. It is a good idea to have a default layout, but leave also this non-default option for me, if it is not too much work. For "exclusive mode", we should not use the "compact" setting, in my opinion. > I removed the xmlpill icon due to copyright issues - got a mail back > from the AmphetaDesk guy! Thank you martin for your advice. Huh? Really? The guy didn't allow us to use it? Well, whatever. I will not cry about it. > PS: Do you thread this mailing list - if so I will avoid using these > "mass" reply style and write 2 or 3 replies. I have no problems if you merge your replies into one mail. Do as you want :) Martin |
From: Christoph W. <e93...@st...> - 2003-08-05 23:01:02
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Hi, Martin Krzysiak wrote: >>Yes - choosing a default look in the preferences dialog would be cool - >>I hate it if I shut down rssview in Compact/Small mode and it comes up >>in that mode again :) >> >> > >But me not! :) I like when I shutdown an application and it comes up >with the settings I gave it last time. It is a good idea to have a >default layout, but leave also this non-default option for me, if >it is not too much work. > Well, a good idea i think - its not really a lot of work... >For "exclusive mode", we should not use the "compact" setting, in >my opinion. > > Is already implemented - its a special exclusive mode that does not interfere with compact mode settings. >>I removed the xmlpill icon due to copyright issues - got a mail back >>from the AmphetaDesk guy! Thank you martin for your advice. >> >> > >Huh? Really? The guy didn't allow us to use it? Well, whatever. I will >not cry about it. > > The reply of the amphetaDesk guy came fast and without any friendly touch :) After taking a look at their CVS respository where they have icons of radio userland, syndic8 etc. stored I'm in doubt if they have the same standards in sharing information/resources with others as they have using others people intellectual property. Ciao Christoph -- Christoph Walcher Email: chr...@we... Max-Winter-Platz 7/16 Tel: +43 (1) 9460866 A-1020 Vienna Mobil: +43 (699) 194609867 |
From: Christoph W. <e93...@st...> - 2003-08-04 22:30:47
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Hi, >4. I crafted a "remember items" option for each feed that seems to have been > removed (at least it's no longer in the UI). > > This is important functionality for me. I have feeds (e.g., my todo list) > where I want an item that does not appear in a subsequent update of the > feed to vanish immediately. Can that be put back? > > I put a hotfix for that issue into cvs - it is not tested (it's 00:30 local time ...) but should work IMHO! Ciao Christoph -- Christoph Walcher Email: chr...@we... Max-Winter-Platz 7/16 Tel: +43 (1) 9460866 A-1020 Vienna Mobil: +43 (699) 194609867 |