From: D. M. M. <mic...@ro...> - 2007-05-16 22:11:52
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On Monday 14 May 2007 5:53 pm, victor wrote: > 1) How to write two or more voices in same staff?. I wan't to write chords, > that is diferent. Often for example, in piano music, beams up or down, > determine the voice. That feaure is common in harmonies exercices on > piano's score. Actually that is possible in lilypond and mscore One voice per segment, segments can overlap, or you can merge segments from different tracks onto the same staff if exporting to LilyPond. This isn't fully functional. It's especially problematic trying to do multiple voice parts that have chords. Chords have to belong to one single voice in order to be considered chords, instead of members of different voices, so this can lead to problems. > 2) is it possible to group with blackets, a group of staff for to have a > real orchestral score appearence?. Actually that is possible in lilypond > and mscore. Not at this time. > 3) A good draw of slur, determine a good understanding of score for eyes. > whould be possible to desing slur like bezier lines? In lilypond and mscore > we can ajust slur curve with three points of control. Is not only a estetic > question. Slur are the lines of expression in order of a musical phrase, > then are very important to have control. I'd like to see bezier slurs too, but I'm not feeling remotely interested in taking on the challenge of implementing them. > 4) How can we to write two lines of lyrics? Many scores use it. Someone just introduced some new feature that's supposed to make this easier somehow. I wasn't following that development. I'll leave this question unanswered, because I just don't know. > 5) In scores's edition is very important the size of bars and lines. how > can we to break a line of staff, for adjust score to a page or other > template style? Not possible at this time. > I dont know if goal of score part of rosegarden is a real score editor, or > a MIDI tracks editor. I think they are two ways diferent, but too with many > point in common. I think Rosegarden is trying to be the most serious score editor it can be while still being a useful MIDI sequencer. The two are hard to combine. We have solved a number of really difficult problems that would have been much easier to address in a pure notation editor context. Pure notation editors like Sibelius or Finale work with symbols and glyphs and coordinates, and then interpret them into a crude MIDI representation when you play the parts. Rosegarden allows quite a robust MIDI reproduction to coexist with solid notation capabilities, but it does not implement any number of things that seem to perpetually limit its usefulness to composers. As a composer and Rosegarden developer, my perspective is one of being frustrated by our own limitations on the one hand, and feeling utterly powerless to address any of these issues myself on the other. I probably care about these issues more than anyone else here, but I'm the least likely to do anything about them. Programming is one of my least favorite ways to spend my free time. > adjunt: a easy score with a good edition. whould be possible to create that > in rosegarden? To really make it practical to solve all the problems I perceive with Rosegarden as a score editor, it would all but require an outright fork. Then it's a tossup whether it's better to fork Rosegarden into a true notation editor, or pump the effort into making NoteEdit (whatever NoteEdit evolved into) or MScore usable, because at last check, neither of them was any more a solution to the overall problem than Rosegarden. Unfortunately, the true solution, for the foreseeable future, seems to be to write in hand-coded LilyPond, or switch to another platform, and use some high-dollar software. -- D. Michael McIntyre |
From: david <gn...@ha...> - 2007-05-17 08:54:52
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D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >> 4) How can we to write two lines of lyrics? Many scores use it. > > Someone just introduced some new feature that's supposed to make this easier > somehow. I wasn't following that development. I'll leave this question > unanswered, because I just don't know. You confirmed it for me, Michael. ;-) Set a separate voice for each verse, give them each the same name, then export to Lilypond format with the option set to combine instruments of the same name into one track. -- David gn...@ha... authenticity, honesty, community |