From: Alexandre P. <tec...@la...> - 2004-03-30 08:30:05
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Richard Bown <ric...@fe...>: > On Tuesday 30 March 2004 09:11, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > > Is drawing controllers a planned feature (along with > > vertically tracks resizing)? > > Drawing controllers is already implemented. See "Control Events..." on the > > Device Manager dialog and then see "Event Rulers" on the matrix and > notation > clients. Use your right menu button to add a line of them. Some issues > with it still but it works. Vertical zooming is probably something we > won't > be tackling before 1.0. OK. So, it is not working like in Logic yet? Just asking, just asking :-) I'm sorry, I cannot check it myself, 'cause I'm on win32 for last 2 months only :-( BTW, did you see the newest mockup for Hydrogen? http://217.17.194.19/hydrogen/hydrogen_v1.png I wish RG had a similar UI :-) Alexandre |
From: Alexandre P. <tec...@la...> - 2004-03-30 09:01:49
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Richard Bown <ric...@fe...>: > On Tuesday 30 March 2004 09:29, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > > OK. So, it is not working like in Logic yet? Just > > asking, just asking :-) > > It's works alright. You should try it out. ASAP :-) > > BTW, did you see the newest mockup for Hydrogen? > > http://217.17.194.19/hydrogen/hydrogen_v1.png > > Wow - looks great. > > > I wish RG had a similar UI :-) > > Perhaps the easiest thing to wish for is for Hydrogen > to import/export as MIDI or an RG file. So then you > can use Hydrogen for quickly composing your drum > patterns and then move them into RG (or anything else) > for fine tweaking at the MIDI level. Hydrogen already > works as a fine RG softsynth, closing the composing > loop a little would make a lot of sense and mean we > wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel. That so many times laughted at way of Win and Mac sound apps is to have native drum editor, which lets a user to edit drum part in one app beiong able to hear whatever part of the whole arrangement he likes, and, by wish, detalize drum part in a standalone drum machine, which loads as plugin and reads events from drum editor and saves them back. IIRC. I see no to technical reason for H. not to use pipes in order to cooperate with sequencers. > Hmm, I wonder if this might be worth taking to the > > Hydrogen list? crossposted :-) Alexandre |
From: Richard B. <ric...@fe...> - 2004-03-30 09:44:23
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On Tuesday 30 March 2004 10:01, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > I see no to technical reason for H. not to use pipes in > order to cooperate with sequencers. There are probably loads of technical reasons - we've certainly had enough of our own communicating between RG's two big processes. However some form of information interchange between RG and H would be lovely - be it MIDI input/output, RG format i/o, a shared data structure or whatever. Launching Hyrdogen as a drum editor from within RG would be great, as would having a button on Hydrogen to say "Export to RG" (or other) and getting an exported MIDI pattern across. Actually perhaps then to start all we have to do is implement a Hydrogen import filter. Duh. It's all just XML after all.. R |
From: Alexandre P. <tec...@la...> - 2004-03-30 10:58:42
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Chris Cannam <ca...@al...>: > On Tuesday 30 Mar 2004 9:29 am, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > BTW, did you see the newest mockup for Hydrogen? > > http://217.17.194.19/hydrogen/hydrogen_v1.png > > I was about to forward that. It's rather beautiful, isn't it? Oh yes, sir ;-) > > > I wish RG had a similar UI :-) > > To be fair, Hydrogen doesn't have a similar GUI yet either. The > appeal of that screengrab is not only in the individual widgets -- > which would be easy enough to create from a good design -- but in the > harmonious way they're assembled into a very fixed layout. I don't > think we'd find that sort of thing easy to do in Rosegarden. I have already told Alessandrom that this guy will be annoyed by LAD crowd :-) > > Not sure how they'd do that wavy line with the translucent bit under > it, either. Nice though. Well, a line itself isn't a problem. It's like about fading in audio --- you can use different functions to make a fade in/out, so that a waveform won't be a straight line. Alexandre |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2004-03-30 08:37:48
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On Tuesday 30 Mar 2004 9:29 am, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > BTW, did you see the newest mockup for Hydrogen? > http://217.17.194.19/hydrogen/hydrogen_v1.png I was about to forward that. It's rather beautiful, isn't it? > I wish RG had a similar UI :-) To be fair, Hydrogen doesn't have a similar GUI yet either. The appeal of that screengrab is not only in the individual widgets -- which would be easy enough to create from a good design -- but in the harmonious way they're assembled into a very fixed layout. I don't think we'd find that sort of thing easy to do in Rosegarden. Not sure how they'd do that wavy line with the translucent bit under it, either. Nice though. Chris |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2004-03-30 08:42:25
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On Tuesday 30 Mar 2004 9:51 am, Chris Cannam wrote: > the harmonious way they're assembled into a very fixed layout. Actually, on second glance it's neither as fixed nor as harmonious as I thought. Look at all those little internal scrollbars. I think I personally prefer multiple windows to that. Jolly nice graphic design though -- it's always vaguely depressing to be reminded how easy a pro can make it look. Chris |
From: Richard B. <ric...@fe...> - 2004-03-30 08:46:33
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On Tuesday 30 March 2004 09:56, Chris Cannam wrote: > Jolly nice graphic design though -- it's always vaguely depressing to > be reminded how easy a pro can make it look. I think you're doing yourself down there a little actually. But yeah, I know what you mean. R |
From: Richard B. <ric...@fe...> - 2004-03-30 08:39:51
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On Tuesday 30 March 2004 09:29, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > OK. So, it is not working like in Logic yet? Just > asking, just asking :-) It's works alright. You should try it out. > I'm sorry, I cannot check it myself, 'cause I'm on > win32 for last 2 months only :-( Oh dear. > BTW, did you see the newest mockup for Hydrogen? > http://217.17.194.19/hydrogen/hydrogen_v1.png Wow - looks great. > I wish RG had a similar UI :-) Perhaps the easiest thing to wish for is for Hydrogen to import/export as MIDI or an RG file. So then you can use Hydrogen for quickly composing your drum patterns and then move them into RG (or anything else) for fine tweaking at the MIDI level. Hydrogen already works as a fine RG softsynth, closing the composing loop a little would make a lot of sense and mean we wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel. Hmm, I wonder if this might be worth taking to the Hydrogen list? R |