From: Richard G. <go...@ex...> - 2005-08-22 13:40:44
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hi, i downloaded http://gaim.sourceforge.net/i18n/sk.po and started translating it. Now i have over 50% translated but i found some of the strings are missing in this file. The sk.po in gaim 1.5.0 sources is newer than the one located on the site. Why? I don't now. You can try it on your own if you don't believe. The one on the site has 2247 strings, the one in sources 2251. You can also check https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1265359&group_id=235&atid=100235 So, is there any way how not to lose my work and update my translated file with missing / changed strings from the newest version? -- --pholie |
From: Funda W. <fun...@li...> - 2005-08-22 14:10:24
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Richard> The sk.po in gaim 1.5.0 sources is newer=20 Richard> than the one located on the site. Forget 1.50 away. There won't be any 1.x versions according to the develope= rs. Richard> So, is there any way how not to lose my work and update my transla= ted file=20 Richard> with missing / changed strings from the newest version? cvs -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/gaim login # <hit Enter here> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/gaim co -P gaim # Please note, in cvs co command, there is no need specifying -r oldstatus # switch, because next vesion of gaim is taking from HEAD, which will be 2.= 0 cd gaim/po =2E/update.pl --pot cp gaim.pot ~/gaim.HEAD.pot # You'll get a file named gaim.HEAD.pot in your home directory. # The final aim is to translate gaim.HEAD.pot totally. # Now, let's merge your existing work. msgmerge /path/to/your/current/sk.po ~/gaim.HEAD.pot -U |
From: Richard G. <go...@ex...> - 2005-08-22 15:07:13
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On Monday 22 August 2005 16:10, Funda Wang wrote: > Forget 1.50 away. There won't be any 1.x versions according to the > developers. Ok, so is translating of this version useless? Any info about when the new version will come out? -- --pholie |
From: Luke S. <lsc...@us...> - 2005-08-22 15:12:03
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 05:07:56PM +0200, Richard Golier wrote: > On Monday 22 August 2005 16:10, Funda Wang wrote: > > Forget 1.50 away. There won't be any 1.x versions according to the > > developers. > > Ok, so is translating of this version useless? Any info about when the new > version will come out? > -- > > --pholie I'd forgotten when I told you to look at the i18n page that Sean had announced an end to the oldstatus series. We don't currently have an eta on when exactly 2.0.0 will come out yet though, it depends on how fast we can finish its status ui and work out the bugs and inconsistencies we have introduced. We have (finally) reached the point where 2.0.0 should not get any *more* broken than it currently is, but it now remains to pull all the loose ends together. luke |
From: Luke S. <lsc...@us...> - 2005-09-08 15:33:03
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gaim.sf.net/i18n has been changed to track cvs head. this should simplify matters when we do string freeze. luke On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 11:08:57AM -0400, Luke Schierer wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 05:07:56PM +0200, Richard Golier wrote: > > On Monday 22 August 2005 16:10, Funda Wang wrote: > > > Forget 1.50 away. There won't be any 1.x versions according to the > > > developers. > > > > Ok, so is translating of this version useless? Any info about when the new > > version will come out? > > -- > > > > --pholie > > I'd forgotten when I told you to look at the i18n page that Sean had > announced an end to the oldstatus series. We don't currently have an > eta on when exactly 2.0.0 will come out yet though, it depends on how > fast we can finish its status ui and work out the bugs and > inconsistencies we have introduced. We have (finally) reached the > point where 2.0.0 should not get any *more* broken than it currently > is, but it now remains to pull all the loose ends together. > > luke > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-i18n mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-i18n |
From: Ambrose Li <ac...@ad...> - 2005-09-08 16:02:21
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Hi, On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 11:32:20AM -0400, Luke Schierer wrote: > gaim.sf.net/i18n has been changed to track cvs head. this should > simplify matters when we do string freeze. gaim.sf.net/i18n seems to be delivering an XML source file. It seems there's some sort of config problem. > luke Regards, Ambrose |
From: Shalom C. <scr...@gm...> - 2005-09-08 16:25:35
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I'm using Firefox and IE, and they render the XML data properly - tables,= =20 bars, etc (a little stale in prettiness, but very cool in the data-usability=20 department!) On 9/8/05, Ambrose Li <ac...@ad...> wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 11:32:20AM -0400, Luke Schierer wrote: > > gaim.sf.net/i18n <http://gaim.sf.net/i18n> has been changed to track cv= s=20 > head. this should > > simplify matters when we do string freeze. >=20 > gaim.sf.net/i18n <http://gaim.sf.net/i18n> seems to be delivering an XML= =20 > source file. It seems > there's some sort of config problem. >=20 > > luke >=20 > Regards, > Ambrose >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle=20 > Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & Q= A > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-i18n mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-i18n > |
From: Ambrose Li <ac...@ad...> - 2005-09-08 16:49:58
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On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 07:25:22PM +0300, Shalom Craimer wrote: > I'm using Firefox and IE, and they render the XML data properly - tables, > bars, etc > (a little stale in prettiness, but very cool in the data-usability > department!) Ok, I was using a text browser. |
From: Luke S. <lsc...@us...> - 2005-09-09 18:21:17
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On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 12:12:04AM +0600, Jamil Ahmed wrote: > Hello Luke, > > I am from Dhaka, Bangladesh. We [http://www.ankurbangla.org/] is doing > l10n for Bengali/Bangla. > We want to l10n Gaim for Bangla language. > > Should we start with, http://gaim.sourceforge.net/i18n/gaim.pot > or > Download Gaim thru CVS and generate PO file? > > And where should we submit our translation? > > Thanks, > `Jamil At this point in time, using the gaim.pot on the website is (now) equivalent to checking out cvs. It really comes down to a choice of how you prefer to manage your translation after it gets committed. Some translators prefer one, others prefer the other. when you go to submit it, there is a translations tracker at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=713922&group_id=235&func=browse I need the po itself (can be compressed), the two letter language code (xx.po) or the two letter language code with two letter country code (xx_YY.po) to use, as well as the name (can be a group name) and email address (can be a personal or list email address) for the help->about dialog. luke > > > Luke Schierer wrote: > > >gaim.sf.net/i18n has been changed to track cvs head. this should > >simplify matters when we do string freeze. > > > >luke > > > >On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 11:08:57AM -0400, Luke Schierer wrote: > > > > > >>On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 05:07:56PM +0200, Richard Golier wrote: > >> > >> > >>>On Monday 22 August 2005 16:10, Funda Wang wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Forget 1.50 away. There won't be any 1.x versions according to the > >>>>developers. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Ok, so is translating of this version useless? Any info about when the > >>>new version will come out? > >>>-- > >>> > >>>--pholie > >>> > >>> > >>I'd forgotten when I told you to look at the i18n page that Sean had > >>announced an end to the oldstatus series. We don't currently have an > >>eta on when exactly 2.0.0 will come out yet though, it depends on how > >>fast we can finish its status ui and work out the bugs and > >>inconsistencies we have introduced. We have (finally) reached the > >>point where 2.0.0 should not get any *more* broken than it currently > >>is, but it now remains to pull all the loose ends together. > >> > >>luke > >> > >> > >> |
From: Javier <jf...@co...> - 2006-01-05 00:46:20
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On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 02:20:21PM -0400, Luke Schierer wrote: > At this point in time, using the gaim.pot on the website is (now) > equivalent to checking out cvs. It really comes down to a choice of > how you prefer to manage your translation after it gets committed. > Some translators prefer one, others prefer the other. Just one comment here, to clear it up and maybe prevent other translators =66rom thinking that CVS is always up-to-date. If you check out CVS and use your po file you are not exactly getting all the strings from the POT file = in http://gaim.sourceforge.net/i18n/gaim.pot. This happens even if you use CVS HEAD right?=20 This is because the po files in CVS do not get regenerated everytime. So translators that want to use the CVS and have the same information from the website should run 'update.pl --pot' in the po/ directory to generate t= he same POT file at the web site (or newer) and 'update.pl XX' (with XX their language code) to generate a po file for their language based on the latest pot file generated from CVS sources [1] Am I right here or have I missed something?=20 I usually just update only the translation from CVS (i.e. the po file generated by the gaim developers *not* using the pot file from the website) in order to avoid translating strings that might not be too "stable" and might change in one or two days/weeks. It seems, however, that most of the POT-Creation-Date of all po files in CVS are from October. Should I be using the latest pot file or should I wait for the string freeze for 2.0.0? Regards Javier [1] This will only work if the translator has 'cvs updated' the whole gaim directory and subdirectories, not just the 'po' subdirectory. |
From: Ambrose Li <ac...@ad...> - 2006-01-05 01:51:23
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On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 01:46:09AM +0100, Javier Fern=E1ndez-Sanguino P= e=F1a wrote: >=20 > This is because the po files in CVS do not get regenerated everytime.= So > translators that want to use the CVS and have the same information fr= om > the website should run 'update.pl --pot' in the po/ directory to gene= rate the > same POT file at the web site (or newer) and 'update.pl XX' (with XX = their > language code) to generate a po file for their language based on the = latest > pot file generated from CVS sources [1] Actually the update.pl --pot is unnecessary. The update.pl XX command automatically regenerates the pot file. |
From: Richard G. <go...@ex...> - 2005-09-09 17:31:49
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On Thursday 08 September 2005 18:02, Ambrose Li wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 11:32:20AM -0400, Luke Schierer wrote: > > gaim.sf.net/i18n has been changed to track cvs head. this should > > simplify matters when we do string freeze. > > gaim.sf.net/i18n seems to be delivering an XML source file. It seems > there's some sort of config problem. i don't see anything in opera. please, try to fix the header, this is what validator says: No DOCTYPE found! Attempting validation with XHTML 1.0 Transitional. The DOCTYPE Declaration was not recognized or is missing. This probably means that the Formal Public Identifier contains a spelling error, or that the Declaration is not using correct syntax. Validation has been performed using a default "fallback" Document Type Definition that closely resembles "XHTML 1.0 Transitional", but the document will not be Valid until you have corrected this problem with the DOCTYPE Declaration. -- --pholie |
From: <fac...@fa...> - 2005-09-09 18:29:20
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On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 07:34:35PM +0200, Richard Golier wrote: > i don't see anything in opera. please, try to fix the header, this is what > validator says: <snip> The new statistics page is actually a XML file (not XHTML) that has an XSLT file to go with it, to turn it into something humanly readable. IE and Firefox do client-side transformation. Apparently Opera does not, it requires server-side transformation. From http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/ XSL and XSLT Opera does not support XSL formatting objects, and neither does it natively support XSLT transformations. XML documents transformed server side will be parsed and displayed by Opera just like any other XML document. |
From: Richard G. <go...@ex...> - 2005-09-09 19:01:10
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Ay, that's not good...=20 On Friday 09 September 2005 20:29, Nathan Walp wrote: > IE and Firefox do client-side transformation. =A0Apparently Opera does > not, it requires server-side transformation. > > From http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/ > > XSL and XSLT > > Opera does not support XSL formatting objects, and neither does it > natively support XSLT transformations. XML documents transformed server > side will be parsed and displayed by Opera just like any other XML > document. =2D-=20 =2D-pholie |
From: <fac...@fa...> - 2005-09-09 17:39:36
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It is delivering an XML source file. What browser are you using that doesn't properly combine it with l10n.xsl and display an informative page? -Nathan On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 12:02:12PM -0400, Ambrose Li wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 11:32:20AM -0400, Luke Schierer wrote: > > gaim.sf.net/i18n has been changed to track cvs head. this should > > simplify matters when we do string freeze. > > gaim.sf.net/i18n seems to be delivering an XML source file. It seems > there's some sort of config problem. > > > luke > > Regards, > Ambrose > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-i18n mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-i18n |
From: Ambrose Li <ac...@ad...> - 2005-09-09 19:04:25
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On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 12:14:29PM -0400, Nathan Walp wrote: > It is delivering an XML source file. What browser are you using that > doesn't properly combine it with l10n.xsl and display an informative > page? w3m-m17n Firefox and Safari indeed are able to handle the XML. Regards, Ambrose |
From: Richard G. <go...@ex...> - 2005-09-09 19:21:37
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On Friday 09 September 2005 21:04, Ambrose Li wrote: > Firefox and Safari indeed are able to handle the XML. Just tried konqueror. It's the second browser that doesn't support it :( -- --pholie |
From: Ambrose Li <ac...@ad...> - 2005-09-09 20:25:28
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On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 09:24:31PM +0200, Richard Golier wrote: > On Friday 09 September 2005 21:04, Ambrose Li wrote: > > Firefox and Safari indeed are able to handle the XML. > > Just tried konqueror. It's the second browser that doesn't support it :( That'd be the 3rd... 1. Opera 2. w3m (and probably all other text browsers) 3. Konqueror |