From: Richard L. <rl...@wi...> - 2005-08-24 17:35:46
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A while back, a user pointed out an alternative set of icons for Gaim. I went through them, made some modifications, and I'm thinking we should put the following set into Gaim proper. I'm looking for feedback, especially objections. http://wiktel.net/rlaager/icons/ You'll notice a couple are new stock icons. As I mentioned before, I think we should look at using the GTK+ stock icons for those (assuming they existed in GTK+ 2.0, which I believe they did). The trade-off here is consistency between copies of Gaim (regardless of GTK+ version) by using our stock icons vs. consistency between GTK+ apps on the system by using the GTK+ stock icons. Anyone want to admit to having GTK+ 2.0 installed so we could look at which stock icons it has? :) Richard |
From: Luke S. <lsc...@us...> - 2005-08-24 18:25:14
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On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 12:35:41PM -0500, Richard Laager wrote: > A while back, a user pointed out an alternative set of icons for Gaim. I > went through them, made some modifications, and I'm thinking we should > put the following set into Gaim proper. I'm looking for feedback, > especially objections. > > http://wiktel.net/rlaager/icons/ > > You'll notice a couple are new stock icons. As I mentioned before, I > think we should look at using the GTK+ stock icons for those (assuming > they existed in GTK+ 2.0, which I believe they did). The trade-off here > is consistency between copies of Gaim (regardless of GTK+ version) by > using our stock icons vs. consistency between GTK+ apps on the system by > using the GTK+ stock icons. Anyone want to admit to having GTK+ 2.0 > installed so we could look at which stock icons it has? :) > > Richard the only change I object to is the status/default/away.png. I like the notepad far more than using a clock. I like it simply for itself, and also because the clock looks more like "idle" than necessarily "away," esp. since you can be away without being idle. luke |
From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2005-08-24 18:39:29
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> From: "Richard Laager" <rl...@wi...> > Sent: 2005 August 24 Wednesday 13:35 > >A while back, a user pointed out an alternative set of icons for Gaim. >I > went through them, made some modifications, and I'm thinking we should > put the following set into Gaim proper. I'm looking for feedback, > especially objections. > > http://wiktel.net/rlaager/icons/ Most I think look much better (cleaner, less cluttered), the exceptions are fewer so I'll list those. * send-im.png - I kind of like the old one. . o O ( ...! ) Also, this new one looks the same as freeforchat, below. * text_(bigg|small)er.png - They all look very similar, trying to do too much in such a little space, everything gets smaller, and it's hard to see the differences. Maybe just a wider icon, rectangle not square, to fit a full-sized A and a up-arrow, and a readable small A and down arrow? * (block|ignor)ed.png - These again both look very similar now. For ignore, I'd say use a head with earmuffs, but then it'd look like Napster. :p maybe blocked could have a mouth with the circle and line through it, or X-ed out, and ignore could have an ear, greyed out or X-ed out or circle-slash? * freeforchat.png - Looks much like the send-im, but again I liked the rounded rectangular bubble. Now that I think, the send-im rounded bubble looks better than this bubble. Why not distinguish between send-im and freeforchat by using different shaped icons? Use the old send-im for send-im, and the new send-im use for freeforchat! * (jabber|yahoo).png - I like and would miss the old ones but definitely better to use the official logo. That goofy smiley face is just great. :) * away: clock versus notepad - A notepad could mean anything -- logging messages, queued messages, typing a message, message saved, or could even be mistaken for a file icon -- it's kind of vague. A clock indicates something to do with time, reminds me of the signs people once used, "Out to Lunch, be back at ..." and had adjustable clock hands. :-D But maybe some other iconcept could be explored? Leif |
From: Kevin M S. <ke...@si...> - 2005-08-24 22:19:40
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Richard Laager wrote: > A while back, a user pointed out an alternative set of icons for Gaim. = I > went through them, made some modifications, and I'm thinking we should > put the following set into Gaim proper. I'm looking for feedback, > especially objections. >=20 > http://wiktel.net/rlaager/icons/ >=20 > You'll notice a couple are new stock icons. As I mentioned before, I > think we should look at using the GTK+ stock icons for those (assuming > they existed in GTK+ 2.0, which I believe they did). The trade-off here= > is consistency between copies of Gaim (regardless of GTK+ version) by > using our stock icons vs. consistency between GTK+ apps on the system b= y > using the GTK+ stock icons. Anyone want to admit to having GTK+ 2.0 > installed so we could look at which stock icons it has? :) >=20 > Richard >=20 I'm going to agree with Luke on the away icon. The paper makes me think of a note being attached to the buddy, which is what a status sort of is. The clock makes me think idle, which just isn't the right thing to be showing. The other one I'm going to vote against is the send IM icon. The one we have is already a custom icon that was made specifically for Gaim that we haven't been using for all that long. Not that that makes any particular difference, but I just like the overall look of it. Also, why do blocked and ignored have the same icon concept but yet end up being different sizes and colors? In your list, I note that the blocked icon gets much bigger and less anti-aliased and the ignored icon gets much smaller and more anti-aliased. Kevin |
From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2005-08-25 13:58:38
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> From: "Kevin M Stange" <ke...@si...> > Sent: 2005 August 24 Wednesday 18:19 > > I'm going to agree with Luke on the away icon. The paper makes me > think > of a note being attached to the buddy, which is what a status sort of > is. The clock makes me think idle, which just isn't the right thing > to > be showing. I'm thinking of the average user, upon whom that distinction is quite vague and lost. Using the default settings of desktop (windows) usage for idleness, and idleness to set away, I see no reason why a clock is confusing. If a person is not away from the computer, then the computer is not likely to go become idle. With default settings the two become synonymous. With account and IM specific settings, maybe an away status can be set regardless of idle time, in which case, use the note. In the case where where Gaim usage sets idle time, a buddy may very well go idle, but not be away, however if Gaim is configured to set away on idle, the two again become synonymous. Hmm, maybe the icon should be set based upon these options? It seems to be a rare case when one is not idle but away. That would rather be misleading, where a "do not disturb" sign would be more accurate. :p Leif |
From: Sean E. <sea...@gm...> - 2005-08-25 21:14:49
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objections: send-im.png status-away.png aim.png away.png yahoo.png; I never cared for those clients that use the Yahoo! 'Y' instead of the Yahoo Messenger icon. Same with the MSN butterfly instead of the MSN Messenger icon. mad props: dnd.png gadu-gadu.png notauthorized.png everything else I'm fairly neutral on. -s. On 8/24/05, Richard Laager <rl...@wi...> wrote: > A while back, a user pointed out an alternative set of icons for Gaim. I > went through them, made some modifications, and I'm thinking we should > put the following set into Gaim proper. I'm looking for feedback, > especially objections. >=20 > http://wiktel.net/rlaager/icons/ >=20 > You'll notice a couple are new stock icons. As I mentioned before, I > think we should look at using the GTK+ stock icons for those (assuming > they existed in GTK+ 2.0, which I believe they did). The trade-off here > is consistency between copies of Gaim (regardless of GTK+ version) by > using our stock icons vs. consistency between GTK+ apps on the system by > using the GTK+ stock icons. Anyone want to admit to having GTK+ 2.0 > installed so we could look at which stock icons it has? :) >=20 > Richard >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practic= es > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & Q= A > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel >=20 --=20 Author of Open Source Messaging Application Development: Building and Extending Gaim: http://gaim.sf.net/book.php |
From: Mark D. <ma...@ki...> - 2005-08-26 05:15:18
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I pretty much agree with Sean, except: I'm neutral on -aim.png -yahoo.png and mad props to -napster.png -zephyr.png And yes, I think it's a good idea to just use the GTK default icons instead of our own, if possible -Mark On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:08:22 -0400, Sean Egan wrote > objections: > send-im.png > status-away.png > aim.png > away.png > yahoo.png; I never cared for those clients that use the Yahoo! 'Y' > instead of the Yahoo Messenger icon. Same with the MSN butterfly > instead of the MSN Messenger icon. > > mad props: > dnd.png > gadu-gadu.png > notauthorized.png > > everything else I'm fairly neutral on. > > -s. > > On 8/24/05, Richard Laager <rl...@wi...> wrote: > > A while back, a user pointed out an alternative set of icons for Gaim. I > > went through them, made some modifications, and I'm thinking we should > > put the following set into Gaim proper. I'm looking for feedback, > > especially objections. > > > > http://wiktel.net/rlaager/icons/ > > > > You'll notice a couple are new stock icons. As I mentioned before, I > > think we should look at using the GTK+ stock icons for those (assuming > > they existed in GTK+ 2.0, which I believe they did). The trade-off here > > is consistency between copies of Gaim (regardless of GTK+ version) by > > using our stock icons vs. consistency between GTK+ apps on the system by > > using the GTK+ stock icons. Anyone want to admit to having GTK+ 2.0 > > installed so we could look at which stock icons it has? :) > > > > Richard |
From: Marc E. <elc...@sb...> - 2005-08-27 06:24:44
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Ok, I attached a screenshot of the stock IM-* icons shipped with Hicolor (Freedesktop standard). I believe, that from the icons that appear on the screenshot, and are on /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/im-* on most systems. >From those icons: I think im-yahoo, im-aim, and im-jabber should be added, since they look much nicer than the current ones. For MSN, the current one is ok, a little to fat maybe :-)... there is a MSN Butterfly icon which is really nice. You guys also might want to check http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22348 Also there was a much nicer gaim icon/logo that wasnt accepted because it was done with Photoshop or for something like that.. (I cant remember, but you can look in the archives).. I hope the icons suggested, and the one I suggested make it into 2.0 (Since it is going to have a 'new' UI) On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 00:14 -0500, Mark Doliner wrote: > I pretty much agree with Sean, except: > > I'm neutral on > -aim.png > -yahoo.png > > and mad props to > -napster.png > -zephyr.png > > And yes, I think it's a good idea to just use the GTK default icons instead of > our own, if possible > > -Mark > > On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:08:22 -0400, Sean Egan wrote > > objections: > > send-im.png > > status-away.png > > aim.png > > away.png > > yahoo.png; I never cared for those clients that use the Yahoo! 'Y' > > instead of the Yahoo Messenger icon. Same with the MSN butterfly > > instead of the MSN Messenger icon. > > > > mad props: > > dnd.png > > gadu-gadu.png > > notauthorized.png > > > > everything else I'm fairly neutral on. > > > > -s. > > > > On 8/24/05, Richard Laager <rl...@wi...> wrote: > > > A while back, a user pointed out an alternative set of icons for Gaim. I > > > went through them, made some modifications, and I'm thinking we should > > > put the following set into Gaim proper. I'm looking for feedback, > > > especially objections. > > > > > > http://wiktel.net/rlaager/icons/ > > > > > > You'll notice a couple are new stock icons. As I mentioned before, I > > > think we should look at using the GTK+ stock icons for those (assuming > > > they existed in GTK+ 2.0, which I believe they did). The trade-off here > > > is consistency between copies of Gaim (regardless of GTK+ version) by > > > using our stock icons vs. consistency between GTK+ apps on the system by > > > using the GTK+ stock icons. Anyone want to admit to having GTK+ 2.0 > > > installed so we could look at which stock icons it has? :) > > > > > > Richard > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel -- |