From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2006-11-13 06:18:33
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Bugs item #1595405, was opened at 2006-11-13 17:18 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=809608&aid=1595405&group_id=158881 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Sample population editor has multiple issues Initial Comment: Issues include: * File cannot be re-opened after entering sample data, * Multiple (re-)display issues - items not displaying in correct locations or at all, * Keyboard navigation is basically impossible, must use mouse - should be able to type, hit <enter>, type more, etc... * Initial value consists of a single space, which sometimes remains in the value and sometimes not, depending on usage (initial space shouldn't exist and spaces should be trimmed) * Population validation errors indicate, for example, that "Instance '6' does not participate in required fact type", but doesn't identify which entity type instance 6 relates to, * Validation isn't reliably performed when switching windows, or produces errors not mirrored in the other windows (error list, verbalization browser, sample population editor), * Sample populations need to be able to be imported via CSV files, etc * Need to be able to sort data by column headings * When entering data on an relationship to an entity having a RefMode of ID, the selection drop-down should if possible display values from another already-populated candidate key. I'm entering sample data into the attached model using some of the info from the Tue and Wed series at <http://street.orienteering.com.au>, if you want to attempt the same thing to see the problems. The attached ORM file won't re-open any more, I get an "argument out of range" exception. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=809608&aid=1595405&group_id=158881 |
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2006-11-14 05:34:30
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Bugs item #1595405, was opened at 2006-11-13 17:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by cjheath You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=809608&aid=1595405&group_id=158881 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Sample population editor has multiple issues Initial Comment: Issues include: * File cannot be re-opened after entering sample data, * Multiple (re-)display issues - items not displaying in correct locations or at all, * Keyboard navigation is basically impossible, must use mouse - should be able to type, hit <enter>, type more, etc... * Initial value consists of a single space, which sometimes remains in the value and sometimes not, depending on usage (initial space shouldn't exist and spaces should be trimmed) * Population validation errors indicate, for example, that "Instance '6' does not participate in required fact type", but doesn't identify which entity type instance 6 relates to, * Validation isn't reliably performed when switching windows, or produces errors not mirrored in the other windows (error list, verbalization browser, sample population editor), * Sample populations need to be able to be imported via CSV files, etc * Need to be able to sort data by column headings * When entering data on an relationship to an entity having a RefMode of ID, the selection drop-down should if possible display values from another already-populated candidate key. I'm entering sample data into the attached model using some of the info from the Tue and Wed series at <http://street.orienteering.com.au>, if you want to attempt the same thing to see the problems. The attached ORM file won't re-open any more, I get an "argument out of range" exception. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Date: 2006-11-14 16:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1608419 Ok, some more detail on what causes the "argument out of range" on reload. It appears that after typing a row into a fact type, the last value is only partially committed if you click away to another VS window before clicking away to another row. This shows up as missing data in other fact type sample data, and as exceptions on reload. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=809608&aid=1595405&group_id=158881 |
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2006-11-14 05:53:25
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Bugs item #1595405, was opened at 2006-11-12 22:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=809608&aid=1595405&group_id=158881 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Sample population editor has multiple issues Initial Comment: Issues include: * File cannot be re-opened after entering sample data, * Multiple (re-)display issues - items not displaying in correct locations or at all, * Keyboard navigation is basically impossible, must use mouse - should be able to type, hit <enter>, type more, etc... * Initial value consists of a single space, which sometimes remains in the value and sometimes not, depending on usage (initial space shouldn't exist and spaces should be trimmed) * Population validation errors indicate, for example, that "Instance '6' does not participate in required fact type", but doesn't identify which entity type instance 6 relates to, * Validation isn't reliably performed when switching windows, or produces errors not mirrored in the other windows (error list, verbalization browser, sample population editor), * Sample populations need to be able to be imported via CSV files, etc * Need to be able to sort data by column headings * When entering data on an relationship to an entity having a RefMode of ID, the selection drop-down should if possible display values from another already-populated candidate key. I'm entering sample data into the attached model using some of the info from the Tue and Wed series at <http://street.orienteering.com.au>, if you want to attempt the same thing to see the problems. The attached ORM file won't re-open any more, I get an "argument out of range" exception. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2006-11-13 21:53 Message: Logged In: NO Feature requests have been reposted as such, the issue causing your file to not load has been fixed in our code base. Extra errors are in the ORM that don't actually exist and a few seem to be missing, and the code for cleaning them up was malfunctioning. Still working to discover why extra errors were added. The attached file is fixed and should load correctly. NORMA will regenerate all errors for the given model. Please let me know if you manage to replicate this issue. The single space is a known issue, occuring at the control level. Hopefully will be fixed soon. The error messages should show the type of ObjectType the instance is, apparently the mandatory error didn't get that change though. This is also fixed. As for unreliable validation and redisplay issues, if you could be a bit more specific about what was happening and how to reproduce it I would be very appreciative. Thanks for the feedback! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Date: 2006-11-13 21:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1608419 Ok, some more detail on what causes the "argument out of range" on reload. It appears that after typing a row into a fact type, the last value is only partially committed if you click away to another VS window before clicking away to another row. This shows up as missing data in other fact type sample data, and as exceptions on reload. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=809608&aid=1595405&group_id=158881 |
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2006-11-14 06:02:04
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Bugs item #1595405, was opened at 2006-11-12 23:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by blmeyers You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=809608&aid=1595405&group_id=158881 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Sample population editor has multiple issues Initial Comment: Issues include: * File cannot be re-opened after entering sample data, * Multiple (re-)display issues - items not displaying in correct locations or at all, * Keyboard navigation is basically impossible, must use mouse - should be able to type, hit <enter>, type more, etc... * Initial value consists of a single space, which sometimes remains in the value and sometimes not, depending on usage (initial space shouldn't exist and spaces should be trimmed) * Population validation errors indicate, for example, that "Instance '6' does not participate in required fact type", but doesn't identify which entity type instance 6 relates to, * Validation isn't reliably performed when switching windows, or produces errors not mirrored in the other windows (error list, verbalization browser, sample population editor), * Sample populations need to be able to be imported via CSV files, etc * Need to be able to sort data by column headings * When entering data on an relationship to an entity having a RefMode of ID, the selection drop-down should if possible display values from another already-populated candidate key. I'm entering sample data into the attached model using some of the info from the Tue and Wed series at <http://street.orienteering.com.au>, if you want to attempt the same thing to see the problems. The attached ORM file won't re-open any more, I get an "argument out of range" exception. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Ben Meyers (blmeyers) Date: 2006-11-13 23:02 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1497243 The last comment was from me, lost my internet as I submitted. Don't seem to be able to append a file to your tracker item right now, but you should be able to temporarily fix the issue by opening up the orm file in a text editor and deleting the entire Model Errors section. I'll try to get one of the admins to attach the file tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2006-11-13 22:53 Message: Logged In: NO Feature requests have been reposted as such, the issue causing your file to not load has been fixed in our code base. Extra errors are in the ORM that don't actually exist and a few seem to be missing, and the code for cleaning them up was malfunctioning. Still working to discover why extra errors were added. The attached file is fixed and should load correctly. NORMA will regenerate all errors for the given model. Please let me know if you manage to replicate this issue. The single space is a known issue, occuring at the control level. Hopefully will be fixed soon. The error messages should show the type of ObjectType the instance is, apparently the mandatory error didn't get that change though. This is also fixed. As for unreliable validation and redisplay issues, if you could be a bit more specific about what was happening and how to reproduce it I would be very appreciative. Thanks for the feedback! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Date: 2006-11-13 22:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1608419 Ok, some more detail on what causes the "argument out of range" on reload. It appears that after typing a row into a fact type, the last value is only partially committed if you click away to another VS window before clicking away to another row. This shows up as missing data in other fact type sample data, and as exceptions on reload. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=809608&aid=1595405&group_id=158881 |
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2006-11-14 06:17:00
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Bugs item #1595405, was opened at 2006-11-13 17:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by cjheath You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=809608&aid=1595405&group_id=158881 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Sample population editor has multiple issues Initial Comment: Issues include: * File cannot be re-opened after entering sample data, * Multiple (re-)display issues - items not displaying in correct locations or at all, * Keyboard navigation is basically impossible, must use mouse - should be able to type, hit <enter>, type more, etc... * Initial value consists of a single space, which sometimes remains in the value and sometimes not, depending on usage (initial space shouldn't exist and spaces should be trimmed) * Population validation errors indicate, for example, that "Instance '6' does not participate in required fact type", but doesn't identify which entity type instance 6 relates to, * Validation isn't reliably performed when switching windows, or produces errors not mirrored in the other windows (error list, verbalization browser, sample population editor), * Sample populations need to be able to be imported via CSV files, etc * Need to be able to sort data by column headings * When entering data on an relationship to an entity having a RefMode of ID, the selection drop-down should if possible display values from another already-populated candidate key. I'm entering sample data into the attached model using some of the info from the Tue and Wed series at <http://street.orienteering.com.au>, if you want to attempt the same thing to see the problems. The attached ORM file won't re-open any more, I get an "argument out of range" exception. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Date: 2006-11-14 17:17 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1608419 Thanks blmeyers. I had an old copy of the file - I'm being more careful after the last breakage :-) My last comment was out of sequence, but seems to be relevant anyhow. There were missing rows violating mandatory constraints because I couldn't re-open the file and finish them :-). One scenario for reproducing a "sticky" validation error is to type a bad character into a field - I accidentally typed a back-quote into a date field - then retyping to correct the value doesn't make the error go away (value '2006/1`' in the sample population for... is not of the specified data type') even though the error has been corrected. The only way to make the error dissappear seems to be to ^Z all the way back, discarding data entered since the error, until it goes away - then go forward without making further errors! I didn't try restarting VS for fear the project wouldn't load again. The same sort of thing happens with other validation errors, like missing values "fails to identify an instance of...". I can't reproduce the display issues now, but part of my troubles come from starting to type after clicking in a field but before the drop-down arrow appears (this takes one or two seconds). Typing in the intervening time makes the cursor jump to a different field. Very confusing. It'd be great if this was fixed and I could just TAB between fields. Thanks for your quick attention to these issues. I'm a great believer in the usefulness of this project! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Ben Meyers (blmeyers) Date: 2006-11-14 17:02 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1497243 The last comment was from me, lost my internet as I submitted. Don't seem to be able to append a file to your tracker item right now, but you should be able to temporarily fix the issue by opening up the orm file in a text editor and deleting the entire Model Errors section. I'll try to get one of the admins to attach the file tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2006-11-14 16:53 Message: Logged In: NO Feature requests have been reposted as such, the issue causing your file to not load has been fixed in our code base. Extra errors are in the ORM that don't actually exist and a few seem to be missing, and the code for cleaning them up was malfunctioning. Still working to discover why extra errors were added. The attached file is fixed and should load correctly. NORMA will regenerate all errors for the given model. Please let me know if you manage to replicate this issue. The single space is a known issue, occuring at the control level. Hopefully will be fixed soon. The error messages should show the type of ObjectType the instance is, apparently the mandatory error didn't get that change though. This is also fixed. As for unreliable validation and redisplay issues, if you could be a bit more specific about what was happening and how to reproduce it I would be very appreciative. Thanks for the feedback! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Date: 2006-11-14 16:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1608419 Ok, some more detail on what causes the "argument out of range" on reload. It appears that after typing a row into a fact type, the last value is only partially committed if you click away to another VS window before clicking away to another row. This shows up as missing data in other fact type sample data, and as exceptions on reload. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=809608&aid=1595405&group_id=158881 |
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2006-11-15 00:46:22
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Bugs item #1595405, was opened at 2006-11-13 17:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by cjheath You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=809608&aid=1595405&group_id=158881 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Sample population editor has multiple issues Initial Comment: Issues include: * File cannot be re-opened after entering sample data, * Multiple (re-)display issues - items not displaying in correct locations or at all, * Keyboard navigation is basically impossible, must use mouse - should be able to type, hit <enter>, type more, etc... * Initial value consists of a single space, which sometimes remains in the value and sometimes not, depending on usage (initial space shouldn't exist and spaces should be trimmed) * Population validation errors indicate, for example, that "Instance '6' does not participate in required fact type", but doesn't identify which entity type instance 6 relates to, * Validation isn't reliably performed when switching windows, or produces errors not mirrored in the other windows (error list, verbalization browser, sample population editor), * Sample populations need to be able to be imported via CSV files, etc * Need to be able to sort data by column headings * When entering data on an relationship to an entity having a RefMode of ID, the selection drop-down should if possible display values from another already-populated candidate key. I'm entering sample data into the attached model using some of the info from the Tue and Wed series at <http://street.orienteering.com.au>, if you want to attempt the same thing to see the problems. The attached ORM file won't re-open any more, I get an "argument out of range" exception. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Date: 2006-11-15 11:46 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1608419 Originator: YES In changing the ORM model for Event/Series as per the comments in the forum (see <http://polyplex.org/cjh/software/orm> for details and ORM sample files), I needed to re-enter the twenty rows of sample event data and reproduced the display defect, as per the attached screen-shot and ORM file below. This file has sample data for the 20 "NumberInSeries" objectified relationships, but I've been unable to use the sample population drop-downs to re-enter sample data for the Event entity itself, so there are remaining errors in the model. It's just too buggy to use at this level. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Date: 2006-11-14 17:17 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1608419 Thanks blmeyers. I had an old copy of the file - I'm being more careful after the last breakage :-) My last comment was out of sequence, but seems to be relevant anyhow. There were missing rows violating mandatory constraints because I couldn't re-open the file and finish them :-). One scenario for reproducing a "sticky" validation error is to type a bad character into a field - I accidentally typed a back-quote into a date field - then retyping to correct the value doesn't make the error go away (value '2006/1`' in the sample population for... is not of the specified data type') even though the error has been corrected. The only way to make the error dissappear seems to be to ^Z all the way back, discarding data entered since the error, until it goes away - then go forward without making further errors! I didn't try restarting VS for fear the project wouldn't load again. The same sort of thing happens with other validation errors, like missing values "fails to identify an instance of...". I can't reproduce the display issues now, but part of my troubles come from starting to type after clicking in a field but before the drop-down arrow appears (this takes one or two seconds). Typing in the intervening time makes the cursor jump to a different field. Very confusing. It'd be great if this was fixed and I could just TAB between fields. Thanks for your quick attention to these issues. I'm a great believer in the usefulness of this project! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Ben Meyers (blmeyers) Date: 2006-11-14 17:02 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1497243 The last comment was from me, lost my internet as I submitted. Don't seem to be able to append a file to your tracker item right now, but you should be able to temporarily fix the issue by opening up the orm file in a text editor and deleting the entire Model Errors section. I'll try to get one of the admins to attach the file tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2006-11-14 16:53 Message: Logged In: NO Feature requests have been reposted as such, the issue causing your file to not load has been fixed in our code base. Extra errors are in the ORM that don't actually exist and a few seem to be missing, and the code for cleaning them up was malfunctioning. Still working to discover why extra errors were added. The attached file is fixed and should load correctly. NORMA will regenerate all errors for the given model. Please let me know if you manage to replicate this issue. The single space is a known issue, occuring at the control level. Hopefully will be fixed soon. The error messages should show the type of ObjectType the instance is, apparently the mandatory error didn't get that change though. This is also fixed. As for unreliable validation and redisplay issues, if you could be a bit more specific about what was happening and how to reproduce it I would be very appreciative. Thanks for the feedback! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Clifford Heath (cjheath) Date: 2006-11-14 16:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1608419 Ok, some more detail on what causes the "argument out of range" on reload. It appears that after typing a row into a fact type, the last value is only partially committed if you click away to another VS window before clicking away to another row. This shows up as missing data in other fact type sample data, and as exceptions on reload. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=809608&aid=1595405&group_id=158881 |