From: Mike M. <mm...@th...> - 2009-10-28 15:41:38
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Hey folks, Philip would like to run the NMock project off Codeplex infrastructure, and shut down (or re-point) existing Sourceforge and nmock.org sites. I'm not active on development on NMock and am still using an RC version in my day job. Would anyone object to Philip launching a Codeplex Nmock project? Once it's looking good we can do the sf.net / nmock.org re-point. Cheers, Mike. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Wolfe, Philip <Wo...@fc...> Date: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:04 PM Subject: NMock project To: "mm...@th..." <mm...@th...> Hi Mike, (I think we have emailed once in the past.) I have made some major updates to the NMock project. I have taken the ideas from the http://moq.me framework and applied them to NMock. Now all of the methods are overloaded with lambda expressions to make refactoring easier. The v2 codebase was left untouched and v3 is completely backward compatible. In fact, you can mix and match v2 and v3 syntax in the same tests. I would be happy to share an alpha version of the code. I would like to start version 3 of NMock at codeplex. I would also like to get your thoughts of moving the community there as well. In my mind this would involve shutting down the sourceforge site and updates or removal of the nmock.org site. The goal is to have developers move to the new version and not get confused with previous versions that are no longer under development. I look forward to hearing from you, Philip ------------------------------ This communication may contain privileged information intended solely for the recipient. It may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it has been sent. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Unless expressly stated, opinions in this message are those of the individual sender and not of Farm Credit Services of America. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message and any attached documents. |
From: Mike C. <mik...@gm...> - 2009-10-28 22:24:02
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Fine by me. I was thinking about using lambdas to specify NMock members just this afternoon, and would be happy to see this go in. That said, moq.me looks interesting from a very brief peek; I hadn't heard of it before. What are the benefits of porting ideas to NMock, as opposed to just using (and possibly extending) that? - Mike (no relation) 2009/10/28 Mike Mason <mm...@th...>: > Hey folks, > > Philip would like to run the NMock project off Codeplex infrastructure, and > shut down (or re-point) existing Sourceforge and nmock.org sites. > > I'm not active on development on NMock and am still using an RC version in > my day job. Would anyone object to Philip launching a Codeplex Nmock > project? Once it's looking good we can do the sf.net / nmock.org re-point. > > Cheers, > Mike. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Wolfe, Philip <Wo...@fc...> > Date: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:04 PM > Subject: NMock project > To: "mm...@th..." <mm...@th...> > > > Hi Mike, > > > > (I think we have emailed once in the past.) > > > > I have made some major updates to the NMock project. I have taken the ideas > from the http://moq.me framework and applied them to NMock. Now all of the > methods are overloaded with lambda expressions to make refactoring easier. > The v2 codebase was left untouched and v3 is completely backward > compatible. In fact, you can mix and match v2 and v3 syntax in the same > tests. I would be happy to share an alpha version of the code. > > > > I would like to start version 3 of NMock at codeplex. I would also like to > get your thoughts of moving the community there as well. In my mind this > would involve shutting down the sourceforge site and updates or removal of > the nmock.org site. The goal is to have developers move to the new version > and not get confused with previous versions that are no longer under > development. > > > > I look forward to hearing from you, > > Philip > > ________________________________ > This communication may contain privileged information intended solely for > the recipient. It may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for > which it has been sent. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not > copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Unless expressly > stated, opinions in this message are those of the individual sender and not > of Farm Credit Services of America. If you have received this communication > in error, please notify the sender and delete the message and any attached > documents. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > NMock-two-dev mailing list > NMo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nmock-two-dev > > |
From: Thomas W. <tho...@gm...> - 2009-10-28 23:36:34
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi Everybody<br> <br> A lot of people were confused about the current NMock project on sf.net, because we updated a lot of stuff in NMock2, also hosted on sf.net.<br> <br> I would really appreciate the shutdown of NMock on sf.net.<br> <br> @Philip: I would like to discuss your ideas (lambda, NMock3 and hosting on codeplex) with the other team members of NMock2, particularly with those who did the most development work. Do you have a patch to the NMock2 source-code, so we could see, what you have done so far? I will let you know, if I have news.<br> <br> Cheers<br> Thomas<br> <br> On 28.10.2009 16:41, Mike Mason wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:b0a...@ma..." type="cite">Hey folks,<br> <br> Philip would like to run the NMock project off Codeplex infrastructure, and shut down (or re-point) existing Sourceforge and <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://nmock.org">nmock.org</a> sites.<br> <br> I'm not active on development on NMock and am still using an RC version in my day job. Would anyone object to Philip launching a Codeplex Nmock project? Once it's looking good we can do the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://sf.net">sf.net</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://nmock.org">nmock.org</a> re-point.<br> <br> Cheers,<br> Mike.<br> <br> <div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br> From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Wolfe, Philip</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Wo...@fc...">Wo...@fc...</a>></span><br> Date: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:04 PM<br> Subject: NMock project<br> To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mm...@th...">mm...@th...</a>" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mm...@th...">mm...@th...</a>><br> <br> <br> <div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Mike,</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p class="MsoNormal">(I think we have emailed once in the past.)</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p class="MsoNormal">I have made some major updates to the NMock project. I have taken the ideas from the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://moq.me" target="_blank">http://moq.me</a> framework and applied them to NMock. Now all of the methods are overloaded with lambda expressions to make refactoring easier. The v2 codebase was left untouched and v3 is completely backward compatible. In fact, you can mix and match v2 and v3 syntax in the same tests. I would be happy to share an alpha version of the code.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p class="MsoNormal">I would like to start version 3 of NMock at codeplex. I would also like to get your thoughts of moving the community there as well. In my mind this would involve shutting down the sourceforge site and updates or removal of the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://nmock.org" target="_blank">nmock.org</a> site. The goal is to have developers move to the new version and not get confused with previous versions that are no longer under development.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p class="MsoNormal">I look forward to hearing from you,</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Philip</p> </div> <hr>This communication may contain privileged information intended solely for the recipient. It may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it has been sent. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Unless expressly stated, opinions in this message are those of the individual sender and not of Farm Credit Services of America. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message and any attached documents.<br> </div> </div> <br> <pre wrap=""> <hr width="90%" size="4"> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference">http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference</a></pre> <pre wrap=""> <hr width="90%" size="4"> _______________________________________________ NMock-two-dev mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NMo...@li...">NMo...@li...</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nmock-two-dev">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nmock-two-dev</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> |
From: Steve F. <st...@m3...> - 2009-10-29 01:01:22
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I have the nmock.org domain name. If the committers can come to an agreement, we can sort something out. S. On 29 Oct 2009, at 00:09, Thomas Weingartner wrote: > Hi Everybody > > A lot of people were confused about the current NMock project on sf.net > , because we updated a lot of stuff in NMock2, also hosted on sf.net. > > I would really appreciate the shutdown of NMock on sf.net. > > @Philip: I would like to discuss your ideas (lambda, NMock3 and > hosting on codeplex) with the other team members of NMock2, > particularly with those who did the most development work. Do you > have a patch to the NMock2 source-code, so we could see, what you > have done so far? I will let you know, if I have news. |
From: Wolfe, P. <WolfeP@FCSAmerica.com> - 2009-10-29 20:07:48
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Hi all, Please check out the sources from this zip file. (I do not have a patch for the existing code because I am CVS stupid :)) The existing sources were left unchanged except for one small change in the Mockery class to make the private creation method, protected. All of the new code is in the NMock3 project. The code comments are half there. Check out its usage in the UnitTests project. http://www.philipwolfe.com/attachments/nmock3.zip If I can get consensus, my proposal is to move the source and community (nmock.org, SF>Nmock, & SF>NMock2) to codeplex because of its TFS integration. It will start out in a beta status to get more feedback and then to release. Related to Moq.me: Currently that framework can't track when an event is bound to a delegate. This was a deal breaker for us and our presenter tests in our MVP pattern. Not to mention, I LOVE the readability of NMock. Developers will be drawn to stuff they understand. Mocking is already hard enough. If you can make it read like English, you will get more unit tests! Philip From: Thomas Weingartner [mailto:tho...@gm...] Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:10 PM To: NMock2 Development Discussion Cc: Wolfe, Philip Subject: Re: [NMock2-Dev] Fwd: NMock project Hi Everybody A lot of people were confused about the current NMock project on sf.net, because we updated a lot of stuff in NMock2, also hosted on sf.net. I would really appreciate the shutdown of NMock on sf.net. @Philip: I would like to discuss your ideas (lambda, NMock3 and hosting on codeplex) with the other team members of NMock2, particularly with those who did the most development work. Do you have a patch to the NMock2 source-code, so we could see, what you have done so far? I will let you know, if I have news. Cheers Thomas On 28.10.2009 16:41, Mike Mason wrote: Hey folks, Philip would like to run the NMock project off Codeplex infrastructure, and shut down (or re-point) existing Sourceforge and nmock.org<http://nmock.org> sites. I'm not active on development on NMock and am still using an RC version in my day job. Would anyone object to Philip launching a Codeplex Nmock project? Once it's looking good we can do the sf.net<http://sf.net> / nmock.org<http://nmock.org> re-point. Cheers, Mike. _______________________________________________ NMock-two-dev mailing list NMo...@li...<mailto:NMo...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nmock-two-dev ********************************************************************** This communication may contain privileged information intended solely for the recipient. It may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it has been sent. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Unless expressly stated, opinions in this message are those of the individual sender and not of Farm Credit Services of America. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message and any attached documents. |
From: Steve F. <st...@m3...> - 2009-10-29 20:34:39
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> If I can get consensus, my proposal is to move the source and > community (nmock.org, SF>Nmock, & SF>NMock2) to codeplex because of > its TFS integration. I'm not clear. Does this imply that users of codeplex must have TFS clients, or that they can use it and other clients if they want to? S. |
From: Mike M. <mik...@gm...> - 2009-10-29 20:47:22
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Steve Freeman <st...@m3...> wrote: > > If I can get consensus, my proposal is to move the source and > > community (nmock.org, SF>Nmock, & SF>NMock2) to codeplex because of > > its TFS integration. > > I'm not clear. Does this imply that users of codeplex must have TFS > clients, or that they can use it and other clients if they want to? > Yeah, I kinda expect most people on the nmock dev lists would consider TFS a limitation, rather than a feature! Basically though, Codeplex uses TFS for its source code management and bug tracking. TFS turned out to be such a turn off to the open-source community that Microsoft created a "bridge" that allows you to check out from TFS using a Subversion client. Since they did that there's no requirement for anyone to use TFS unless they want to and like the way it works. |
From: Harold H. <Har...@ps...> - 2009-10-29 20:54:30
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Here's the list of clients supported: http://codeplex.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=CodePlex%20FAQ&referringTitl e=CodePlex%20Help%20Wiki#Source -----Original Message----- From: Steve Freeman [mailto:st...@m3...] Sent: October-29-09 1:33 PM To: NMock2 Development Discussion Subject: Re: [NMock2-Dev] NMock2 to NMock3 > If I can get consensus, my proposal is to move the source and > community (nmock.org, SF>Nmock, & SF>NMock2) to codeplex because of > its TFS integration. I'm not clear. Does this imply that users of codeplex must have TFS clients, or that they can use it and other clients if they want to? S. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ NMock-two-dev mailing list NMo...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nmock-two-dev |
From: Charlie P. <ch...@po...> - 2009-10-30 06:24:23
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I tried out Codeplex with NUnitLite, first using VS integration and then tossing that and using a command line client. Finally, I moved it (and NUnit) to Launchpad, which is working out pretty well. I hear good things about Github too. IMO, DVCS is the way to go for community projects these days. Charlie > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Freeman [mailto:st...@m3...] > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:33 PM > To: NMock2 Development Discussion > Subject: Re: [NMock2-Dev] NMock2 to NMock3 > > > If I can get consensus, my proposal is to move the source and > > community (nmock.org, SF>Nmock, & SF>NMock2) to codeplex because of > > its TFS integration. > > I'm not clear. Does this imply that users of codeplex must > have TFS clients, or that they can use it and other clients > if they want to? > > S. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in > SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this > year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry > mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. > Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > NMock-two-dev mailing list > NMo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nmock-two-dev > |