Thread: Re: [Mplayerplug-in-devel] CVS Comments
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From: John M. <tt...@te...> - 2004-04-08 02:14:44
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1. Okay.. I don't think sourceforge anonymous CVS has been updated. 2. I try and calibrate everything off a single volume as well, but sometimes when I am browsing the web, things will be too loud from the plug-in and I hate scrambling to load up the master volume control. 3. When SF updates it I will. I still think eventually that using the toolkits native file saving dialog would make the plug-in feel more integrated. Now I haven't seen it in action, but selecting "Save as {filename}" and the user not getting any feedback is probably confusing. 4. I think that having the logo glowing[animated] effect will provide enough the feedback to the user that the plug-in hasn't hung. I just asked my mother [a non-developer user] what she thought of the verbose text in the plug-in window and she said she didn't even understand what was going on. I think having an animated logo with a simple one line text description of what the plug-in is doing is better then having the verbose messages by default. I would go as far as saying that verbose status messages make a program less user friendly. I am not saying we shouldn't have feedback, but I think it should be presented in a more user-centric way. For users all they would want is something like this: ANIMATED LOGO Status message The logo should be animated so that the user feels like the program is still working. The status message should be along the lines of: - Connecting - Downloading 10% 50k/sec I don't know if Buffering is the right word, most users are familiar with the word 'Downloading' instead of 'Buffering'. 5. You are right about sticking with the theme. But in fullscreen mode, Black is the only choice, there is precedent for this in pretty much every single movie playing application. John On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 14:31, Kevin DeKorte wrote: > John, > > 1. The logo goes away in fullscreen mode in CVS now, it has for about a week. > As for the video going back, right click on the grey video window or move the > browser window a touch and it will come back. It is an mplayer/gtk2 issue. It > does not do that in GTK1 mode. > > 2. Volume probably won't be in, in the next release. Personally I just use the > system volume since I try an calibrate everything to be off 1 single volume > control. > > 3. Try the current CVS when SF updates it. I think it will be good enough for > now. > > 4. Even as a non-developer I like to know if an app is doing something or just > hung. So for me as a user more status is better. You must have pretty choppy > video because it is pretty smooth for me. The [k/sec] might be something I'll > look in to, but don't expect it soon. > > Black background , NO, NO, NO.... I might change it in fullscreen mode, but I > will not change it in embedded mode. I'm trying to be a good desktop citizen > and RESPECT the preferences of the theme as much as I can. Basically you have > three camps: use the theme, use white and use black. If anything I would use > white and have in the past, but I think using the theme is the best option. > > Kevin > > On Wednesday 07 April 2004 12:00 pm, John McCutchan wrote: > > 1. Your right, I didn't have my mplayer setup. Now I get the video > > properly scaled, but I would prefer if there was a black background > > instead of the standard window background and if the mplayerplug-in logo > > and text wasn't there. > > > > And when I switch back from fullscreen the video isn't shown in its > > original window. I was playing the AVP trailer on trailers.apple.com > > > > 2. Great, it would be good to include in the context menu as well in > > case the controls aren't shown. > > > > 3. What about just using the gtk file dialog of in gtk mode, and just > > putting it in the download-dir if running in X mode ? > > > > 4. It is during the buffering that the cpu spikes. Maybe a more passive > > progress meter would be appropriate? For the non-developer just having a > > small mplayerplug-in logo glowing with a one line text status below like > > "Connecting..", "Buffering.. 1% [50k/sec]" would be easier on the eyes. > > A regular user doesn't want to see all the details of what the plugin is > > doing. As well, a black background here would be great to. > > > > Thanks > > John > > > > On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 10:14, Kevin DeKorte wrote: > > > John, > > > > > > 1. Full screen does scale the image to be full screen...Although it > > > scales it proportionally. The Video should at least touch the left/right > > > edges of the screen. Are you using XV or X11 modes of mplayer? If not > > > then maybe that is why the image does not get bigger. > > > > > > 2. Been thinking about a volume control. > > > > > > 3. I'll look into what would need to be done to make that happen. Might > > > be some issues around that.. Since I don't want to have to build a > > > complete file dialog. Might just be a save button that puts it in your > > > download-dir directory or your home directory. > > > > > > 4. Which redraw is happening to quickly. If you are running in a GTK mode > > > all that is handled by GTK. The only one that updates alot is the > > > buffering, and that is not any more aggressive than an FTP program that > > > is showing you bytes downloaded ie it is updated on the blocks > > > downloaded. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > > GenToo technologies. 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