From: Ferris, J. <Jeff_Ferris@Dell.com> - 2001-02-26 22:06:19
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Just unplug the tv's and monitors and do everything over a WAP browser. Media rots your mind. OR, you could look for surge strips that have built-in noise filters. = But make sure they block outbound as well as inbound noise. Of course, X10 devices plugged into the strip won't work, but that wasn't what you = were going for anyway, so no big loss. :^) -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of Mark A. Holm Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 3:39 PM To: mis...@li... Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater I am having some of the same problems that you are and the suggestion = was made that I get some 15AMP signal filters top put on things line TV's = and Monitors. All the areas that I am having problems with have either a TV = or one or more monitors plugged in. I haven't tried this yet as it looks = like I will need about 3-4 of the filters and at $65 each from SmartHome, it's = not within the budget right now. Does anybody have a cheaper source for = these? markh P.S. While I am asking, does anybody know where you can get a power = extender for the XCam2? I can't even find cable ends locally so I could build it myself! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Mark A. Holm Exceptional Solutions 2045 SE 70th Ct Phone: (503) 332-4502 Hillsboro, OR 97123 Fax/Msg: (503) 591-8584 <http://www.exc-sol.com> <mailto:ma...@ex...> -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of doug Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:29 AM To: misterhouse-ml Subject: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater I'm having lots of problems with X10 signals around our new home. Some devices I can only reliably control via RF if I put a transmitter near = it and MH can't control it, but MH seems to "hear" the signal. I've tried turning on the range/dryer to try to bridge the two phases, but that = hasn't done anything. Anyway, I was thinking about getting a signal bridge but according to = the smarthome.com site, it says that homes over 3000sf probably need a = signal amp/repeater. Anyone got one of these? Do they work? Hard to install or = find someone to install? --doug <(=A9=BF=A9)> ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |
From: Ferris, J. <Jeff_Ferris@Dell.com> - 2001-02-26 22:13:21
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...the dryer! I can't believe I didn't figure that out! I've got = three lights in my house that usually work only on the weekend, but never = when I go to bed or through the rest of the week, except sometimes in the = early evening...I went thru the house last night, determined to figure out = why, and I turned everything *off* thinking it was interference! but it = always works on sunday afternoon when I'm drying the laundry, and now that I = think about it, it works when I've got the oven going... They make an inline signal bridge, just plug it in to the dryer socket, = then plug in the dryer: http://www.smarthome.com/4816.html But they're a hundred bucks. I haven't found it worth the experiment without hearing about someone else's experience... -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of doug Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:29 AM To: misterhouse-ml Subject: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater I'm having lots of problems with X10 signals around our new home. Some devices I can only reliably control via RF if I put a transmitter near = it and MH can't control it, but MH seems to "hear" the signal. I've tried turning on the range/dryer to try to bridge the two phases, but that = hasn't done anything. Anyway, I was thinking about getting a signal bridge but according to = the smarthome.com site, it says that homes over 3000sf probably need a = signal amp/repeater. Anyone got one of these? Do they work? Hard to install or = find someone to install? --doug <(=A9=BF=A9)> ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |
From: Mark A. H. <ma...@ex...> - 2001-02-26 22:39:00
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I installed one to see if it would fix the rf accessible only areas in my house and it did not. It did allow me to get to the circuits in the livin= g room with out having to do laundry though. That purchase is why the filte= rs are not currently in the budget. The wife is getting tired of the experimentation... markh -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of Ferris, Jeff Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 2:15 PM To: 'mis...@li...' Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater ...the dryer! I can't believe I didn't figure that out! I've got three lights in my house that usually work only on the weekend, but never when = I go to bed or through the rest of the week, except sometimes in the early evening...I went thru the house last night, determined to figure out why, and I turned everything *off* thinking it was interference! but it alway= s works on sunday afternoon when I'm drying the laundry, and now that I thi= nk about it, it works when I've got the oven going... They make an inline signal bridge, just plug it in to the dryer socket, t= hen plug in the dryer: http://www.smarthome.com/4816.html But they're a hundred bucks. I haven't found it worth the experiment without hearing about someone else's experience... -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of doug Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:29 AM To: misterhouse-ml Subject: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater I'm having lots of problems with X10 signals around our new home. Some devices I can only reliably control via RF if I put a transmitter near it and MH can't control it, but MH seems to "hear" the signal. I've tried turning on the range/dryer to try to bridge the two phases, but that hasn= 't done anything. Anyway, I was thinking about getting a signal bridge but according to the smarthome.com site, it says that homes over 3000sf probably need a signal amp/repeater. Anyone got one of these? Do they work? Hard to install or f= ind someone to install? --doug <(=A9=BF=A9)> ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |
From: John E. <pe...@kc...> - 2001-03-01 02:02:38
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I just installed one of these today :-) Seems to have fixed all of my signal problems! Well worth the money for me! --John -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of Ferris, Jeff Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 4:15 PM To: 'mis...@li...' Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater ...the dryer! I can't believe I didn't figure that out! I've got three lights in my house that usually work only on the weekend, but never when I go to bed or through the rest of the week, except sometimes in the early evening...I went thru the house last night, determined to figure out why, and I turned everything *off* thinking it was interference! but it always works on sunday afternoon when I'm drying the laundry, and now that I think about it, it works when I've got the oven going... They make an inline signal bridge, just plug it in to the dryer socket, then plug in the dryer: http://www.smarthome.com/4816.html But they're a hundred bucks. I haven't found it worth the experiment without hearing about someone else's experience... -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of doug Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:29 AM To: misterhouse-ml Subject: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater I'm having lots of problems with X10 signals around our new home. Some devices I can only reliably control via RF if I put a transmitter near it and MH can't control it, but MH seems to "hear" the signal. I've tried turning on the range/dryer to try to bridge the two phases, but that hasn't done anything. Anyway, I was thinking about getting a signal bridge but according to the smarthome.com site, it says that homes over 3000sf probably need a signal amp/repeater. Anyone got one of these? Do they work? Hard to install or find someone to install? --doug <(©¿©)> ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id65 ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id65 |
From: Carl F. <fri...@ex...> - 2001-02-26 22:46:14
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See the part near the word capacitor... Any electrician can install this; but if you are a competent do-it-your-selfer and know how to work inside a power panel (extremely risky, and not recommended unless you've been trained and understand the safety procedures), you can do this. Make sure you insulate the leads on the cap. properly. Have an electrician do it. Or, spend the hundred bucks for the bridge, you can take it with you when you move. I have no experience with those. Carl Friedberg ca...@co... http://www.x10.com/support/support_q1.htm 1. Why do some modules work in some outlets and not in others?=20 If you are having difficulty controlling a particular module from a particular location, but can control this module from other locations, or if the ability to control a particular module is intermittent, it is possible that the module in question and your controller are on opposite phases of your house wiring.=20 Most houses are fed from a 220 volt service which is then split into two phases of 110 volts each in the circuit breaker panel. The X10 signals, which are transmitted onto the house wiring (onto one phase), will normally couple across to the other phase through the breaker panel, pole transformer etc. If however, due to loading, you do not have enough coupling, you may couple the signal from one phase to the other by having a qualified electrician install a 0.1 microfarad, 240V AC or 600V DC capacitor across your 220 volt line from hot to hot, i.e. across any 220 volt breaker. This will couple the signal from one phase to the other. The capacitor should be rated for "across the line connection" such as part number P4603 available from the Digi-Key catalog. This part can be purchased from Digi-Key by calling 1-800-344-4539. Alternatively, you may be able to solve the problem simply by moving the controller to another outlet. If the controller is plugged into the same outlet as a TV its output may be reduced. Moving the controller away from the TV may also solve the problem.=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Ferris, Jeff [mailto:Jeff_Ferris%Del...@fw...] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 5:15 PM To: 'mis...@li...' Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater ...the dryer! I can't believe I didn't figure that out! I've got three lights in my house that usually work only on the weekend, but never when I go to bed or through the rest of the week, except sometimes in the early evening...I went thru the house last night, determined to figure out why, and I turned everything *off* thinking it was interference! but it always works on sunday afternoon when I'm drying the laundry, and now that I think about it, it works when I've got the oven going... They make an inline signal bridge, just plug it in to the dryer socket, then plug in the dryer: http://www.smarthome.com/4816.html But they're a hundred bucks. I haven't found it worth the experiment without hearing about someone else's experience... -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of doug Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:29 AM To: misterhouse-ml Subject: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater I'm having lots of problems with X10 signals around our new home. Some devices I can only reliably control via RF if I put a transmitter near it and MH can't control it, but MH seems to "hear" the signal. I've tried turning on the range/dryer to try to bridge the two phases, but that hasn't done anything. Anyway, I was thinking about getting a signal bridge but according to the smarthome.com site, it says that homes over 3000sf probably need a signal amp/repeater. Anyone got one of these? Do they work? Hard to install or find someone to install? --doug <(=A9=BF=A9)> ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |
From: doug <do...@do...> - 2001-02-27 00:12:44
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Jeff: It sounds like the signal bridge will work for you. The oven/dryer thing doesn't work for me, so I'm thinking a bridge won't help. I think its just distance and interference. Anyway, I just ordered an X10 FireCracker and hopefully I can control the "uncontrollable" units via RF from MH. This should work since MH can "hear" the signals. The computer interface is probably a lot smarter than the independent X10 units...makes sense I guess. I just hope the FireCracker has a decent range. I tried a regular remote from the MH (PC) location and it works fine. If this doesn't work, I just might get the amp/repeater. I must say I'm surprised no one here has one! We are the elite X10 Force! =) --doug > Message: 11 > From: "Ferris, Jeff" <Jeff_Ferris@Dell.com> > To: "'mis...@li...'" > <mis...@li...> > Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater > Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:14:33 -0600 > Reply-To: mis...@li... > > ...the dryer! I can't believe I didn't figure that out! I've got = > three > lights in my house that usually work only on the weekend, but never = > when I > go to bed or through the rest of the week, except sometimes in the = > early > evening...I went thru the house last night, determined to figure out = > why, > and I turned everything *off* thinking it was interference! but it = > always > works on sunday afternoon when I'm drying the laundry, and now that I = > think > about it, it works when I've got the oven going... > > They make an inline signal bridge, just plug it in to the dryer socket, = > then > plug in the dryer: > http://www.smarthome.com/4816.html > > But they're a hundred bucks. I haven't found it worth the experiment > without hearing about someone else's experience... > > -----Original Message----- > From: mis...@li... > [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of doug > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:29 AM > To: misterhouse-ml > Subject: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater > > > I'm having lots of problems with X10 signals around our new home. Some > devices I can only reliably control via RF if I put a transmitter near = > it > and MH can't control it, but MH seems to "hear" the signal. I've tried > turning on the range/dryer to try to bridge the two phases, but that = > hasn't > done anything. > > Anyway, I was thinking about getting a signal bridge but according to = > the > smarthome.com site, it says that homes over 3000sf probably need a = > signal > amp/repeater. Anyone got one of these? Do they work? Hard to install or = > find > someone to install? > > --doug <(=A9=BF=A9)> > > > > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > misterhouse-users mailing list > mis...@li... > List options: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > > End of misterhouse-users Digest > |
From: Bill S. <bs...@vi...> - 2001-02-27 19:43:17
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> It sounds like the signal bridge will work for you. The oven/dryer thing > doesn't work for me, so I'm thinking a bridge won't help. I think its just > distance and interference. How big is your house? If it's under about 2500 sqft it's not distance, more likely a noisy appliance or two. > If this doesn't work, I just might get the amp/repeater. I must say I'm > surprised no one here has one! We are the elite X10 Force! =) I'm sure many people here have them, they are required in larger homes (definition of larger varies, but I found over about 2500, others will tell you over 3500). Have you gone thru and unplugged everything and tested x10 then? I know it's a pain, but if you spend one saturday morning running thru you'll isolate the items that are causing the problems. After thats it's just remebering what you may have added to the house recently if things stop working. Good luck, Bill |
From: George <sew...@er...> - 2001-02-27 21:23:42
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Saw postings on x-10 signal. Had problems with the bridge as I kept adding computer and electronics equipment around the house (3000 sq ft). Found that some surge supresors actually attenuate the x-10 signal. As more surge supressors were plugged in, signal level on that outlet (before surge supressor) and nearby outlets dropped substantially, Have about 20 surge suppressors in the house - all various brands. I finally hit a limit on signal level when I added a surge supressor for the third VCR. That was enough to drop the level for all nearby outlets to below the min for x-10 modules to work. Signal got down as low as 50 mv (using x-10 tester to test) near some surge supressors even with (3) 0.5mfd caps across the 220 volt line at the fusebox and comercial x-10 bridge across the 220 volt line in the fusebox. Scrapped it all and bought X-10 repeater ($70) and signal at the same outlets is now 200 mv (enought for reliable operation) with all the surge supressors in place. Recommend going with the repeater in the fusebox - where the signal is the strongest. It actually detects the signal and sends it out again with a higher level a fraction of a second later. Two signals do not seem to bother the x-10 stuff I have - mostly light and appliance controllers since it is the same instructions to the x-10 device. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sobel" <bs...@vi...> To: <mis...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:40 PM Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater > > It sounds like the signal bridge will work for you. The oven/dryer thing > > doesn't work for me, so I'm thinking a bridge won't help. I think its just > > distance and interference. > > How big is your house? If it's under about 2500 sqft it's not distance, > more likely a noisy appliance or two. > > > If this doesn't work, I just might get the amp/repeater. I must say I'm > > surprised no one here has one! We are the elite X10 Force! =) > > I'm sure many people here have them, they are required in larger homes > (definition of larger varies, but I found over about 2500, others will tell > you over 3500). > > Have you gone thru and unplugged everything and tested x10 then? I know > it's a pain, but if you spend one saturday morning running thru you'll > isolate the items that are causing the problems. After thats it's just > remebering what you may have added to the house recently if things stop > working. > > Good luck, > Bill > > > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > |
From: doug <do...@do...> - 2001-02-27 21:14:51
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My house is about 3200+sf. (I think it's "large" ;-) I'm gonna try RF control from MH for the far away units (just ordered a FireCracker). I think this will work because my (RF) remotes work fine. T= he main problem I have is that when MH sends the in-line signal to these far away units, they do not respond. For whatever reason, MH properly "hears" the in-line signals those far away units emit. Hopefully this will work. If not, I may go for the amp/repeater. If I do, I'll let the group know my experiences... --doug <(=A9=BF=A9)> > Message: 11 > From: "Bill Sobel" <bs...@vi...> > To: <mis...@li...> > Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:40:59 -0800 > Reply-To: mis...@li... > > > It sounds like the signal bridge will work for you. The oven/dryer th= ing > > doesn't work for me, so I'm thinking a bridge won't help. I think its just > > distance and interference. > > How big is your house? If it's under about 2500 sqft it's not distance= , > more likely a noisy appliance or two. > > > If this doesn't work, I just might get the amp/repeater. I must say I= 'm > > surprised no one here has one! We are the elite X10 Force! =3D) > > I'm sure many people here have them, they are required in larger homes > (definition of larger varies, but I found over about 2500, others will tell > you over 3500). > > Have you gone thru and unplugged everything and tested x10 then? I kno= w > it's a pain, but if you spend one saturday morning running thru you'll > isolate the items that are causing the problems. After thats it's just > remebering what you may have added to the house recently if things stop > working. > > Good luck, > Bill > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > misterhouse-users mailing list > mis...@li... > List options: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=3D1365 > > > End of misterhouse-users Digest > |
From: doug <do...@do...> - 2001-02-28 14:28:15
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George: Where did you get the repeater for $70? I've only been able to find them at smarthome.com and the X10 is $150 and the Leviton is $200! Although the Leviton is suppose to increase the signal strength to 7V. --doug > From: "George" <sew...@er...> > To: <mis...@li...> > Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:24:56 -0500 > Reply-To: mis...@li... > > Saw postings on x-10 signal. > > Had problems with the bridge as I kept adding computer and electronics > equipment around the house (3000 sq ft). > > Found that some surge supresors actually attenuate the x-10 signal. As more > surge supressors were plugged in, signal level on that outlet (before surge > supressor) and nearby outlets dropped substantially, Have about 20 surge > suppressors in the house - all various brands. I finally hit a limit on > signal level when I added a surge supressor for the third VCR. That was > enough to drop the level for all nearby outlets to below the min for x-10 > modules to work. > > Signal got down as low as 50 mv (using x-10 tester to test) near some surge > supressors even with (3) 0.5mfd caps across the 220 volt line at the > fusebox and comercial x-10 bridge across the 220 volt line in the fusebox. > > Scrapped it all and bought X-10 repeater ($70) and signal at the same > outlets is now 200 mv (enought for reliable operation) with all the surge > supressors in place. > > Recommend going with the repeater in the fusebox - where the signal is the > strongest. It actually detects the signal and sends it out again with a > higher level a fraction of a second later. Two signals do not seem to bother > the x-10 stuff I have - mostly light and appliance controllers since it is > the same instructions to the x-10 device. > > George |
From: George <sew...@er...> - 2001-02-28 18:06:58
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I am very pleased with it and they have a www page and good prices on other x-10 stuff. Quick shipment and well packed. http://www.homecontrols.com/ I bought the : LEVITON X10 SIGNAL AMPLIFIER $69.95. (plus about 9.95 for shipping) BOOSTS X10 SIGNAL STRENGTH OVER 50 TIMES! Greatly improves X10 reliability by bridging your two powerline phases and amplifies the X10 signal from 100mV to over 5 Volts across both phases! A must if your signal is much below the required 100mV and strongly recommended in all homes over 3,000 square feet in size. Insures reliable signal delivery to all your X10 devices. Installs in electrical box near your home's breaker box. It wires to each 120V power phase and to neutral. Please do not attempt wiring these devices to your household power panels without the help of an experienced electrician. LEVITON SALE: SAVE $110 OFF NORMAL PRICE!! HC6201X Leviton X10 Signal Amplifier Two and three phase operation (one wire is left unused on 2 phase - i.e. 220 volt operation - insustructions are clear on this) Boost your X10 signal strength more than 50 times! Brand new, Leviton, high quality!!! One-year warranty Free Technical Support This Product Normally Sells for $179.95!!! Have fun. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "doug" <do...@do...> To: <mis...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:30 AM Subject: [misterhouse-users] Re: X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater > George: > > Where did you get the repeater for $70? I've only been able to find them at > smarthome.com and the X10 is $150 and the Leviton is $200! Although the > Leviton is suppose to increase the signal strength to 7V. > > --doug > > > From: "George" <sew...@er...> > > To: <mis...@li...> > > Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater > > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:24:56 -0500 > > Reply-To: mis...@li... > > > > Saw postings on x-10 signal. > > > > Had problems with the bridge as I kept adding computer and electronics > > equipment around the house (3000 sq ft). > > > > Found that some surge supresors actually attenuate the x-10 signal. As > more > > surge supressors were plugged in, signal level on that outlet (before > surge > > supressor) and nearby outlets dropped substantially, Have about 20 surge > > suppressors in the house - all various brands. I finally hit a limit on > > signal level when I added a surge supressor for the third VCR. That was > > enough to drop the level for all nearby outlets to below the min for x-10 > > modules to work. > > > > Signal got down as low as 50 mv (using x-10 tester to test) near some > surge > > supressors even with (3) 0.5mfd caps across the 220 volt line at the > > fusebox and comercial x-10 bridge across the 220 volt line in the fusebox. > > > > Scrapped it all and bought X-10 repeater ($70) and signal at the same > > outlets is now 200 mv (enought for reliable operation) with all the surge > > supressors in place. > > > > Recommend going with the repeater in the fusebox - where the signal is the > > strongest. It actually detects the signal and sends it out again with a > > higher level a fraction of a second later. Two signals do not seem to > bother > > the x-10 stuff I have - mostly light and appliance controllers since it is > > the same instructions to the x-10 device. > > > > George > > > > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > |
From: Mark A. H. <ma...@ex...> - 2001-02-28 18:24:06
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George, I am new to this so forgive me if this seems like a dumb question. With the signal repeater in place, do you still need to have any noise filters installed for things like TVs and monitors or does this provide a strong enough signal to overcome the noise? I have to make sure my purchases are actually improving the situation to keep the wife happy ;-)! markh -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of George Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:08 AM To: mis...@li... Cc: do...@do... Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] Re: X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater (source) I am very pleased with it and they have a www page and good prices on other x-10 stuff. Quick shipment and well packed. http://www.homecontrols.com/ I bought the : LEVITON X10 SIGNAL AMPLIFIER $69.95. (plus about 9.95 for shipping) BOOSTS X10 SIGNAL STRENGTH OVER 50 TIMES! Greatly improves X10 reliability by bridging your two powerline phases and amplifies the X10 signal from 100mV to over 5 Volts across both phases! A must if your signal is much below the required 100mV and strongly recommended in all homes over 3,000 square feet in size. Insures reliable signal delivery to all your X10 devices. Installs in electrical box near your home's breaker box. It wires to each 120V power phase and to neutral. Please do not attempt wiring these devices to your household power panels without the help of an experienced electrician. LEVITON SALE: SAVE $110 OFF NORMAL PRICE!! HC6201X Leviton X10 Signal Amplifier Two and three phase operation (one wire is left unused on 2 phase - i.e. 220 volt operation - insustructions are clear on this) Boost your X10 signal strength more than 50 times! Brand new, Leviton, high quality!!! One-year warranty Free Technical Support This Product Normally Sells for $179.95!!! Have fun. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "doug" <do...@do...> To: <mis...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:30 AM Subject: [misterhouse-users] Re: X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater > George: > > Where did you get the repeater for $70? I've only been able to find them at > smarthome.com and the X10 is $150 and the Leviton is $200! Although the > Leviton is suppose to increase the signal strength to 7V. > > --doug > > > From: "George" <sew...@er...> > > To: <mis...@li...> > > Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater > > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:24:56 -0500 > > Reply-To: mis...@li... > > > > Saw postings on x-10 signal. > > > > Had problems with the bridge as I kept adding computer and electronics > > equipment around the house (3000 sq ft). > > > > Found that some surge supresors actually attenuate the x-10 signal. As > more > > surge supressors were plugged in, signal level on that outlet (before > surge > > supressor) and nearby outlets dropped substantially, Have about 20 surge > > suppressors in the house - all various brands. I finally hit a limit on > > signal level when I added a surge supressor for the third VCR. That was > > enough to drop the level for all nearby outlets to below the min for x-10 > > modules to work. > > > > Signal got down as low as 50 mv (using x-10 tester to test) near some > surge > > supressors even with (3) 0.5mfd caps across the 220 volt line at the > > fusebox and comercial x-10 bridge across the 220 volt line in the fusebox. > > > > Scrapped it all and bought X-10 repeater ($70) and signal at the same > > outlets is now 200 mv (enought for reliable operation) with all the surge > > supressors in place. > > > > Recommend going with the repeater in the fusebox - where the signal is the > > strongest. It actually detects the signal and sends it out again with a > > higher level a fraction of a second later. Two signals do not seem to > bother > > the x-10 stuff I have - mostly light and appliance controllers since it is > > the same instructions to the x-10 device. > > > > George > > > > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |
From: George <sew...@er...> - 2001-02-28 18:50:53
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Depends on the noise on your lines - I have a lot in my house due to lots of X-10 dimmable wall switches and touch sensitive light controllers. They have triacs which generate lots of spikes. Mine overcame all that noise - but that is my situation - yours may be different. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark A. Holm" <ma...@ex...> To: <mis...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 1:25 PM Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] Re: X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater (source) > George, > > I am new to this so forgive me if this seems like a dumb question. With the > signal repeater in place, do you still need to have any noise filters > installed for things like TVs and monitors or does this provide a strong > enough signal to overcome the noise? I have to make sure my purchases are > actually improving the situation to keep the wife happy ;-)! > > markh > > -----Original Message----- > From: mis...@li... > [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of > George > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:08 AM > To: mis...@li... > Cc: do...@do... > Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] Re: X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater > (source) > > > I am very pleased with it and they have a www page and good prices on other > x-10 stuff. Quick shipment and well packed. > > http://www.homecontrols.com/ > > I bought the : > > LEVITON X10 SIGNAL AMPLIFIER $69.95. (plus about 9.95 for shipping) > > BOOSTS X10 SIGNAL STRENGTH OVER 50 TIMES! > > Greatly improves X10 reliability by bridging your two powerline phases and > amplifies the X10 signal from 100mV to over 5 Volts across both phases! A > must if your signal is much below the required 100mV and strongly > recommended in all homes over 3,000 square feet in size. Insures reliable > signal delivery to all your X10 devices. Installs in electrical box near > your home's breaker box. It wires to each 120V power phase and to neutral. > Please do not attempt wiring these devices to your household power panels > without the help of an experienced electrician. > > LEVITON SALE: SAVE $110 OFF NORMAL PRICE!! > > HC6201X Leviton X10 Signal Amplifier > > Two and three phase operation (one wire is left unused on 2 phase - i.e. 220 > volt operation - insustructions are clear on this) > Boost your X10 signal strength more than 50 times! > Brand new, Leviton, high quality!!! > One-year warranty > Free Technical Support > > This Product Normally Sells for $179.95!!! > > Have fun. > > George > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "doug" <do...@do...> > To: <mis...@li...> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:30 AM > Subject: [misterhouse-users] Re: X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater > > > > George: > > > > Where did you get the repeater for $70? I've only been able to find them > at > > smarthome.com and the X10 is $150 and the Leviton is $200! Although the > > Leviton is suppose to increase the signal strength to 7V. > > > > --doug > > > > > From: "George" <sew...@er...> > > > To: <mis...@li...> > > > Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater > > > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:24:56 -0500 > > > Reply-To: mis...@li... > > > > > > Saw postings on x-10 signal. > > > > > > Had problems with the bridge as I kept adding computer and electronics > > > equipment around the house (3000 sq ft). > > > > > > Found that some surge supresors actually attenuate the x-10 signal. As > > more > > > surge supressors were plugged in, signal level on that outlet (before > > surge > > > supressor) and nearby outlets dropped substantially, Have about 20 surge > > > suppressors in the house - all various brands. I finally hit a limit on > > > signal level when I added a surge supressor for the third VCR. That was > > > enough to drop the level for all nearby outlets to below the min for > x-10 > > > modules to work. > > > > > > Signal got down as low as 50 mv (using x-10 tester to test) near some > > surge > > > supressors even with (3) 0.5mfd caps across the 220 volt line at the > > > fusebox and comercial x-10 bridge across the 220 volt line in the > fusebox. > > > > > > Scrapped it all and bought X-10 repeater ($70) and signal at the same > > > outlets is now 200 mv (enought for reliable operation) with all the > surge > > > supressors in place. > > > > > > Recommend going with the repeater in the fusebox - where the signal is > the > > > strongest. It actually detects the signal and sends it out again with a > > > higher level a fraction of a second later. Two signals do not seem to > > bother > > > the x-10 stuff I have - mostly light and appliance controllers since it > is > > > the same instructions to the x-10 device. > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > > > > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > |
From: Bill S. <bs...@vi...> - 2001-02-28 21:54:03
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Hi, Is anyone using Homebase.pm? I have a Stargate and have been modifing it to support the digital IO on the stargate (and eventually analog, phones, etc). I've been tempted to rename my version Stargate.pm since I don't know if my changes work properly on the Homebase unit. For that matter, any Stargate users out there? Bill |
From: Donald H. <do...@dh...> - 2001-02-28 23:38:34
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I am using it also. Got fed up with Starglish (those following the JDS list will know what I mean) and waiting for Internet support. I am 1/2 way through adding ability to support dim/bright levels, but just doing basic X10 off/on right now. Would be love to try out your mods. You probably knew that the serial protocol documentation is now on the JDS website. About 80% of the WinEVM functions are accounted for there. Noteably missing is anything about downling new schedules, of course. The Telephony and IVR functions seem to be supported as are all the standard X10/digital/A2D stuff. Hope go get to implementing support in the next few months, but am just now finding my way around MH (my perl skills are a bit rusty). Would be willing to pool effort (or just use yours :-)). Don Quoting Bill Sobel <bs...@vi...>: > Hi, > > Is anyone using Homebase.pm? I have a Stargate and have been modifing > it to > support the digital IO on the stargate (and eventually analog, phones, > etc). > I've been tempted to rename my version Stargate.pm since I don't know if > my > changes work properly on the Homebase unit. For that matter, any > Stargate > users out there? > > Bill > > > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > |
From: Bill S. <bs...@vi...> - 2001-03-01 00:07:26
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Hi Don, > I am using it also. Got fed up with Starglish (those following the JDS > list will know what I mean) and waiting for Internet support. I am 1/2 way Btw, what is the list address to subscribe, I didn't see it on the JDS site. > through adding ability to support dim/bright levels, but just doing basic X10 > off/on right now. Would be love to try out your mods. I'll send you what I have as soon as it's ready to be played with (probably this weekend). I did go ahead and rename it to Stargate.pm just so I wouldn't break anybody if I changed too much. I'm handling the digital IO now via the echo command, but may revisit that as it looks like only inputs 1-16 are handled (I have a as yet unhooked up I/O expander also and would like to get the status from those inputs also). > You probably knew that the serial protocol documentation is now on the JDS > website. About 80% of the WinEVM functions are accounted for there. Actually I didn't, last time I looked it wasn't there. You just saved me ALOT of work (and I just realized how much I wasted this weekend back hacking the protocol!) > are a bit rusty). Would be willing to pool effort (or just use yours :-)). Great, I'll send you updates and perhaps you can merge your X10 changes in (I'll concentrate on the IO/phone portion to start). Best, BIll |
From: Donald H. <do...@dh...> - 2001-03-01 00:22:05
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Quoting Bill Sobel <bs...@vi...>: > Hi Don, > > Btw, what is the list address to subscribe, I didn't see it on the JDS > site. Here is the footer from a JDS message: To subscribe, send email to ad...@jd... To unsubscribe, send email to rem...@jd... Archives are online at http://www.jdsusers.com Send Problems to jds...@jd... The group is not affiliated with JDS Technologies, but folks from there do occasionally participate. I found out about MH from that list. > > > Actually I didn't, last time I looked it wasn't there. You just saved > me > ALOT of work (and I just realized how much I wasted this weekend back > hacking the protocol!) > Here is the URL: http://www.jdstechnologies.com/protspec2.html Some of the text is rather turgid, but that is probably why they resisted publishing the protocol for so long. Don |
From: Donald H. <do...@dh...> - 2001-03-01 00:35:26
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Quoting Bill Sobel <bs...@vi...>: > Hi Don, > > I'm handling the digital > IO > now via the echo command, but may revisit that as it looks like only > inputs > 1-16 are handled (I have a as yet unhooked up I/O expander also and > would > like to get the status from those inputs also). > I would stick with the echo command. It looks like from the protocol spec it is supported. One of the parameters of the echo response is an 'I/O Offset'. There is direct access to some of the internal data structure that provides fine-grained control/status, but the required polling architecture would seem to add too much overhead. I like the asynchronous notify of the echo commands. Don |
From: Mark L. <ma...@sa...> - 2001-03-01 14:33:45
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I have a Stargate as well and am just starting the learning curve with Misterhouse. I am long fed up "Starglish" and hoping for something better. I had already started my own project to talk to the Stargate and some of my other equipment. However, I am interested in getting things working with Misterhouse. Count me in on a group effort. Also, I picked up a couple Epods yesterday on EBay. I didn't realize until today that some of us on the mailing list are bidding against each other. In particular, I think I was in a bidding war with Donald Hoffman on one unit. I'm still planning to pick up one more of these today. If you read this Don, perhaps you can email me and we can arrange to bid on different units. :) > -----Original Message----- > From: mis...@li... > [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of > Donald Hoffman > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 6:40 PM > To: mis...@li...; Bill Sobel > Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] Homebase.pm > > > I am using it also. Got fed up with Starglish (those following the JDS > list will know what I mean) and waiting for Internet support. > I am 1/2 way > through adding ability to support dim/bright levels, but just > doing basic X10 > off/on right now. Would be love to try out your mods. > > You probably knew that the serial protocol documentation is now on the JDS > website. About 80% of the WinEVM functions are accounted for there. > Noteably missing is anything about downling new schedules, of course. > The Telephony and IVR functions seem to be supported as are all > the standard > X10/digital/A2D stuff. Hope go get to implementing support in the > next few months, but am just now finding my way around MH (my perl skills > are a bit rusty). Would be willing to pool effort (or just use > yours :-)). > > > Don > > > Quoting Bill Sobel <bs...@vi...>: > > > Hi, > > > > Is anyone using Homebase.pm? I have a Stargate and have been modifing > > it to > > support the digital IO on the stargate (and eventually analog, phones, > > etc). > > I've been tempted to rename my version Stargate.pm since I don't know if > > my > > changes work properly on the Homebase unit. For that matter, any > > Stargate > > users out there? > > > > Bill > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: > > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > > > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |
From: Mark A. H. <ma...@ex...> - 2001-02-26 22:30:54
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I've never seen strips like that. Who makes them and who sells them? markh -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of Ferris, Jeff Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 2:08 PM To: 'mis...@li...' Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater Just unplug the tv's and monitors and do everything over a WAP browser. Media rots your mind. OR, you could look for surge strips that have built-in noise filters. But make sure they block outbound as well as inbound noise. Of course, X10 devices plugged into the strip won't work, but that wasn't what you were going for anyway, so no big loss. :^) -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of Mark A. Holm Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 3:39 PM To: mis...@li... Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater I am having some of the same problems that you are and the suggestion was made that I get some 15AMP signal filters top put on things line TV's and Monitors. All the areas that I am having problems with have either a TV o= r one or more monitors plugged in. I haven't tried this yet as it looks lik= e I will need about 3-4 of the filters and at $65 each from SmartHome, it's n= ot within the budget right now. Does anybody have a cheaper source for these= ? markh P.S. While I am asking, does anybody know where you can get a power exten= der for the XCam2? I can't even find cable ends locally so I could build it myself! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mark A. Holm Exceptional Solutions 2045 SE 70th Ct Phone: (503) 332-4502 Hillsboro, OR 97123 Fax/Msg: (503) 591-8584 <http://www.exc-sol.com> <mailto:ma...@ex...> -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...]On Behalf Of doug Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:29 AM To: misterhouse-ml Subject: [misterhouse-users] X10 Signal Amplifier/Repeater I'm having lots of problems with X10 signals around our new home. Some devices I can only reliably control via RF if I put a transmitter near it and MH can't control it, but MH seems to "hear" the signal. I've tried turning on the range/dryer to try to bridge the two phases, but that hasn= 't done anything. Anyway, I was thinking about getting a signal bridge but according to the smarthome.com site, it says that homes over 3000sf probably need a signal amp/repeater. Anyone got one of these? Do they work? Hard to install or f= ind someone to install? --doug <(=A9=BF=A9)> ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |