From: George F. <fa...@sh...> - 2012-08-21 20:01:53
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Greetings all, Has anyone experienced any issues with Insteon devices and the new "Smart Meters" that many of the power utilities are installing? Thanks George |
From: Ron B. <rb...@be...> - 2012-08-22 11:56:40
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I received a "card" informing me that they will be replacing the old meters with new ones. I went to the power companies web site and noted that they operate at 900mhz, the same as some video cameras. I called the listed number and was told that there should not be any issues although they did have a list of "baby monitors" that were having cross over issues at this frequency. I am still waiting on the "smart" meter 6 months after receiving the "card". What I find interesting is that these meters talk directly to a power companies access point and failing that they can relay through your neighbors smart meters in order to link up to the power company. George Farris wrote: > Greetings all, > > Has anyone experienced any issues with Insteon devices and the new > "Smart Meters" that many of the power utilities are installing? > > Thanks > George > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > |
From: William H. M. <ma...@ma...> - 2012-08-22 18:23:39
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On Aug 21, 2012, at 4:01 PM, George Farris <fa...@sh...> wrote: > Greetings all, > > Has anyone experienced any issues with Insteon devices and the new > "Smart Meters" that many of the power utilities are installing? Don't know about Insteon devices, but here in Pennsylvania, PECO is experiencing a problem with "fires!" "PECO's smart-meter program was put on hold after 15 of the units overheated -- two causing fires, according to the power company." (of about 186,000 units installed) (Friday 8/17) http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/business/PECO-Smart-Meter-Replace-Fire-166466686.html I have no guess what "bad wiring" means, which is PECO's explanation. Especially since the fires have occurred AT the meter, not on internal wiring. "PECO is installing new software into existing smart meters and replacing the bad meters with new meters from a different manufacturer." T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # iMac11,3 Core i7 [2.936GHz - 4 GB 1333] OS X 10.7.4 # MacBook Pro4.1 Core 2 Duo [2.5GHz - 4GB 667] OS X 10.6.8 # Mac mini Core Duo [1.66 Ghz - 2 GB 667] OS X 10.6.8 # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg] Tru64 5.1a # XP1000 [Alpha 21264-3 (EV6) - 256 meg] FreeBSD 5.3 # XP1000 [Alpha 21264-A (EV6-7) - 256 meg] FreeBSD 5.3 ma...@mc... ma...@me... whm...@gm... |
From: Thomas P. <pai...@gm...> - 2012-08-22 19:38:48
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I got one a few years ago, and I never thought of it causing interference. I only have X10, with a W800 Usb. I am a 911 dispatcher for the local police and fire department, and I can say we haven't had any calls on the meters catching fire. But now that they are charging me 11 cents a kW during the day and only 7 cents at night, I kind of want to put up a couple of solar panels to bring down my daytime house load. On 22 August 2012 14:23, William H. Magill <ma...@ma...> wrote: > On Aug 21, 2012, at 4:01 PM, George Farris <fa...@sh...> wrote: > >> Greetings all, >> >> Has anyone experienced any issues with Insteon devices and the new >> "Smart Meters" that many of the power utilities are installing? > > Don't know about Insteon devices, but here in Pennsylvania, PECO is experiencing a problem with "fires!" > > "PECO's smart-meter program was put on hold after 15 of the units overheated -- two causing fires, according to the power company." > > (of about 186,000 units installed) (Friday 8/17) > > http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/business/PECO-Smart-Meter-Replace-Fire-166466686.html > > I have no guess what "bad wiring" means, which is PECO's explanation. Especially since the fires have occurred AT the meter, not > on internal wiring. > > "PECO is installing new software into existing smart meters and replacing the bad meters with new meters from a different manufacturer." > > T.T.F.N. > William H. Magill > # iMac11,3 Core i7 [2.936GHz - 4 GB 1333] OS X 10.7.4 > # MacBook Pro4.1 Core 2 Duo [2.5GHz - 4GB 667] OS X 10.6.8 > # Mac mini Core Duo [1.66 Ghz - 2 GB 667] OS X 10.6.8 > # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg] Tru64 5.1a > # XP1000 [Alpha 21264-3 (EV6) - 256 meg] FreeBSD 5.3 > # XP1000 [Alpha 21264-A (EV6-7) - 256 meg] FreeBSD 5.3 > ma...@mc... > ma...@me... > whm...@gm... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > -- -=/>Thom |
From: Marc M. <ma...@me...> - 2012-08-22 21:23:54
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On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 03:38:42PM -0400, Thomas Paine wrote: > But now that they are charging me 11 cents a kW during the day and > only 7 cents at night, I kind of want to put up a couple of solar > panels to bring down my daytime house load. You should :) Electricity does cost more to make during the day, so they pass on the cost to you. People who still pay the same price all day have it "good" for now, but it's artificial and not actually good for the environment. If you want to make this cool and geeky, you can :) http://marc.merlins.org/perso/solar/2010-08.html#Fine-grained-house-wide-power-monitoring-with-Brultech-ECM1240_-ecmread_py-_with-net-metering-support_-and-graphing-with-cacti Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ |
From: Plasma2002 <pla...@gm...> - 2012-08-22 21:31:32
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Wait, does it really cost more to MAKE during the day time? I mean, I get that there is a much higher demand for it during the day, but what would make it more costly to make? *curious* On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Marc MERLIN <ma...@me...> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 03:38:42PM -0400, Thomas Paine wrote: > > But now that they are charging me 11 cents a kW during the day and > > only 7 cents at night, I kind of want to put up a couple of solar > > panels to bring down my daytime house load. > > You should :) > > Electricity does cost more to make during the day, so they pass on the cost > to you. > People who still pay the same price all day have it "good" for now, but > it's > artificial and not actually good for the environment. > > If you want to make this cool and geeky, you can :) > > http://marc.merlins.org/perso/solar/2010-08.html#Fine-grained-house-wide-power-monitoring-with-Brultech-ECM1240_-ecmread_py-_with-net-metering-support_-and-graphing-with-cacti > > Marc > -- > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - > A.S.R. > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet > cooking > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > |
From: Marc M. <ma...@me...> - 2012-08-22 22:05:49
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On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 02:31:25PM -0700, Plasma2002 wrote: > Wait, does it really cost more to MAKE during the day time? I mean, I get > that there is a much higher demand for it during the day, but what would > make it more costly to make? Yes. Baseload is made with cheaper plants, and peak load is made with plants that are typically dirtier and often more expensive to run because they need to be started/stopped often. In CA, we have 5 tiers (winter low/mid, and summer low/mid/high) plus 5 pricing on top of that depending on whether you're in baseload, 130%, 200%, 300%, or over 300% of baseload for each tier. Yes, it's complicated :) See parse_month in http://marc.merlins.org/linux/scripts/parseecmpower Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ |
From: Gary S. <mhn...@dg...> - 2012-08-22 22:30:31
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On 8/22/2012 6:05 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 02:31:25PM -0700, Plasma2002 wrote: > Yes. Baseload is made with cheaper plants, and peak load is made with plants > that are typically dirtier and often more expensive to run because they need > to be started/stopped often. Here in some parts of Florida, they actually use small (relatively speaking) DIESEL peak power generators. They only run them for short duration peak demands, but those suckers are DEFINITELY more expensive to operate than the coal/natural gas/nuke powered plants that make up the vast majority of the supply. Personally, I don't understand the economics of diesel for that application, but I suppose it helps avoid the construction of a much larger plant that wouldn't be needed the vast majority of the time. Gary Sanders |
From: Alan W. <arw...@we...> - 2012-08-22 23:53:24
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At least it would be off road diesel, and at a substantial discount to gas station diesel! In Florida it should all be solar! |
From: Craig a. E. L. <ecl...@gm...> - 2012-09-20 03:26:16
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We have had our smartmeter since the beginning of July and not had any X10 issues with it at all. Sorry, no Insteon here! Craig On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:01:40 -0700, George Farris <fa...@sh...> wrote: > Greetings all, > > Has anyone experienced any issues with Insteon devices and the new > "Smart Meters" that many of the power utilities are installing? > > Thanks > George > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > -- --------------------- Sent from my computer |
From: Thomas P. <pai...@gm...> - 2012-09-21 02:05:01
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Just for info, I've had a smart meter for 6 years. I just have X10. -- -=/>Thom |