Thread: [MiKTeX] Converting rtf to LaTex and back from command-line
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From: Don R. <DON.RAIKES@ORACLE.COM> - 2014-02-13 18:56:26
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Hi all, I am a blind user who is just getting his feet wet with MikTex. I have a number of Microsoft word documents I wish to convert into LaTex format because I think I could have greater control over the formatting in LaTex. The TexWorks program is totally inaccessible using a screenreader, so I have to work at the command-line. Is there a way to convert the word documents into LaTex format? Also once in Latex, I would like to be able to conver them back to word format so my editor could work in word to make any corrections/edits. Any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -- Sincerely, Don HYPERLINK "http://www.oracle.com/" \nOracle DON RAIKES | Accessibility Specialist Phone: HYPERLINK "tel:+15202717608"+15202717608 Oracle JDeveloper Quality Assurance Arizona HYPERLINK "http://www.oracle.com/commitment" \nGreen Oracle Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment |
From: Vladimir Y. <yum...@ma...> - 2014-02-13 19:34:02
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Yes, there is a product Word2tex from Chikrii Lab which is a perfect converter. The license is not expensive. The product works like a plugin to Word and allows to save current Word document as LaTeX document. ("save as" sub-menu). Document is converted in full including figures but I think it is better not to include figures and insert them later from original sources directly into LaTeX document to avoid quality losses. Another thing is that Word2tex adds excessive number of operator braces {}, just in case, to avoid possible side effects. Usually it is possible to reduce their number by the factor of about 2. You are right in your expectation of LaTeX outstanding capabilities. You will receive high quality and professionally looking documents. Tex2word plugin is also available but I am not sure it is useful because LaTeX is superior by all means. Regards Четверг, 13 февраля 2014, 10:56 -08:00 от Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES@ORACLE.COM>: >Hi all, > > > >I am a blind user who is just getting his feet wet with MikTex. > >I have a number of Microsoft word documents I wish to convert into LaTex format because I think I could have greater control over the formatting in LaTex. > > > >The TexWorks program is totally inaccessible using a screenreader, so I have to work at the command-line. > > > >Is there a way to convert the word documents into LaTex format? > >Also once in Latex, I would like to be able to conver them back to word format so my editor could work in word to make any corrections/edits. > > > >Any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > >-- >Sincerely, Don > >HYPERLINK " http://www.oracle.com/" \nOracle >DON RAIKES | Accessibility Specialist >Phone: HYPERLINK "tel:+15202717608"+15202717608 >Oracle JDeveloper Quality Assurance >Arizona > >HYPERLINK " http://www.oracle.com/commitment" \nGreen Oracle > >Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 >Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. >Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. >Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. >http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >_______________________________________________ >MiKTeX-Users mailing list >MiK...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/miktex-users > -- Vladimir Yumashev |
From: John R. <joh...@gm...> - 2014-02-13 19:49:06
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Yes, I have also used WORD2Tex and it works well (also Tex2Word since I occasionally have Latex documents that need to be submitted in Word.) I have the one caveat. I recently switched machines and got no help whatsoever from Chikrii in overcoming some problems with installing on Word 2013 and Windows 7. - though they had been helpful with some issues in the past. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Vladimir Yumashev <yum...@ma...> wrote: > Yes, there is a product Word2tex from Chikrii Lab which is a perfect > converter. > The license is not expensive. The product works like a plugin to Word and > allows to save current Word document as LaTeX document. ("save as" > sub-menu). > Document is converted in full including figures but I think it is better > not to include > figures and insert them later from original sources directly into LaTeX > document > to avoid quality losses. Another thing is that Word2tex adds excessive > number > of operator braces {}, just in case, to avoid possible side effects. > Usually it is > possible to reduce their number by the factor of about 2. > > You are right in your expectation of LaTeX outstanding capabilities. > You will receive high quality and professionally looking documents. > > Tex2word plugin is also available but I am not sure it is useful because > LaTeX is > superior by all means. > > Regards > > Четверг, 13 февраля 2014, 10:56 -08:00 от Don Raikes < > DON.RAIKES@ORACLE.COM>: > >Hi all, > > > > > > > >I am a blind user who is just getting his feet wet with MikTex. > > > >I have a number of Microsoft word documents I wish to convert into LaTex > format because I think I could have greater control over the formatting in > LaTex. > > > > > > > >The TexWorks program is totally inaccessible using a screenreader, so I > have to work at the command-line. > > > > > > > >Is there a way to convert the word documents into LaTex format? > > > >Also once in Latex, I would like to be able to conver them back to word > format so my editor could work in word to make any corrections/edits. > > > > > > > >Any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > >-- > >Sincerely, Don > > > >HYPERLINK " http://www.oracle.com/" \nOracle > >DON RAIKES | Accessibility Specialist > >Phone: HYPERLINK "tel:+15202717608"+15202717608 > >Oracle JDeveloper Quality Assurance > >Arizona > > > >HYPERLINK " http://www.oracle.com/commitment" \nGreen Oracle > > > >Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help > protect the environment > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > >Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > >Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > >Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > >_______________________________________________ > >MiKTeX-Users mailing list > >MiK...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/miktex-users > > > > > -- > Vladimir Yumashev > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > MiKTeX-Users mailing list > MiK...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/miktex-users > -- John W. Rudnicki Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering and Department of Mechanical Engineering Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA joh...@gm... (jw...@no...) 847-491-3411 (Voice) 847-491-4011 (FAX) http://www.civil.northwestern.edu/people/profiles/rudnicki.html <http://cee.northwestern.edu/people/faculty/detail.php?id=5a718cb38169773801c6a6fde70ec4e4> Seeking is itself a barrier to wisdom. Pao-chih _/|\_ |
From: Vladimir Y. <yum...@ma...> - 2014-02-13 19:55:02
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If your editor can edit plain text then you can modify LaTeX document directly without the need to return to word. Also note that there are numerous shells for LaTeX (and MikTeX in particular): Winedt, Wintex, Winshell etc. Some may appear to suite your needs> Четверг, 13 февраля 2014, 10:56 -08:00 от Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES@ORACLE.COM>: >Hi all, > > > >I am a blind user who is just getting his feet wet with MikTex. > >I have a number of Microsoft word documents I wish to convert into LaTex format because I think I could have greater control over the formatting in LaTex. > > > >The TexWorks program is totally inaccessible using a screenreader, so I have to work at the command-line. > > > >Is there a way to convert the word documents into LaTex format? > >Also once in Latex, I would like to be able to conver them back to word format so my editor could work in word to make any corrections/edits. > > > >Any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > >-- >Sincerely, Don > >HYPERLINK " http://www.oracle.com/" \nOracle >DON RAIKES | Accessibility Specialist >Phone: HYPERLINK "tel:+15202717608"+15202717608 >Oracle JDeveloper Quality Assurance >Arizona > >HYPERLINK " http://www.oracle.com/commitment" \nGreen Oracle > >Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 >Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. >Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. >Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. >http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >_______________________________________________ >MiKTeX-Users mailing list >MiK...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/miktex-users > -- Vladimir Yumashev |
From: Jack L. <jac...@co...> - 2014-02-13 20:14:32
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You might try LyX: http://www.lyx.org Beautiful documents using LaTeX but without all that coding. Best wishes, Jack Lyon The Editorium http://www.editorium.com On 2/13/2014 12:54 PM, Vladimir Yumashev wrote: > If your editor can edit plain text then you can modify LaTeX document directly > without the need to return to word. Also note that there are numerous shells > for LaTeX (and MikTeX in particular): Winedt, Wintex, Winshell etc. Some may > appear to suite your needs> > > > Четверг, 13 февраля 2014, 10:56 -08:00 от Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES@ORACLE.COM>: >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I am a blind user who is just getting his feet wet with MikTex. >> >> I have a number of Microsoft word documents I wish to convert into LaTex format because I think I could have greater control over the formatting in LaTex. >> >> >> >> The TexWorks program is totally inaccessible using a screenreader, so I have to work at the command-line. >> >> >> >> Is there a way to convert the word documents into LaTex format? >> >> Also once in Latex, I would like to be able to conver them back to word format so my editor could work in word to make any corrections/edits. >> >> >> >> Any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> -- >> Sincerely, Don >> >> HYPERLINK " http://www.oracle.com/" \nOracle >> DON RAIKES | Accessibility Specialist >> Phone: HYPERLINK "tel:+15202717608"+15202717608 >> Oracle JDeveloper Quality Assurance >> Arizona >> >> HYPERLINK " http://www.oracle.com/commitment" \nGreen Oracle >> >> Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 >> Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. >> Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. >> Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> MiKTeX-Users mailing list >> MiK...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/miktex-users >> > |
From: Bastiaan V. <Bastiaan@Veelo.net> - 2014-02-13 21:02:23
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Hi! If LyX converts to and from Word then that is new to me. Also, I can imagine that being able to hear the layout spoken out to you and being able to type in what the structure of the document should be is part of the point for a blind person, so any tool that converts this information to purely visible clues is not an aid in this regard. LyX is great, if you have vision. It is a long time ago since I tried a Word-to-LaTeX converter, but these tend to generate extra code in an attempt to make the output resemple the input as much as possible, adding complexity that I suppose would be a great disadvantage for blind people, not the least because there is no screen reader that does syntax highlighting. Do try these tools, but it may well be the most productive to just cut and paste the text into an text editor and turn it into a LaTeX document by hand. Regarding backwards conversion: it may be easier and more effective to convert your editor to LaTeX than to convert your documents to Word :-) And you only need to do it once! Really, it will improve his professionalism and the printed output. And he would not be alone, there are editors that accept LaTeX exclusively… Good luck, Bastiaan. On 13 Feb 2014, at 21:14, Jack Lyon <jac...@co...> wrote: > You might try LyX: > > http://www.lyx.org > > Beautiful documents using LaTeX but without all that coding. > > Best wishes, > Jack Lyon > The Editorium > http://www.editorium.com > > On 2/13/2014 12:54 PM, Vladimir Yumashev wrote: >> If your editor can edit plain text then you can modify LaTeX document directly >> without the need to return to word. Also note that there are numerous shells >> for LaTeX (and MikTeX in particular): Winedt, Wintex, Winshell etc. Some may >> appear to suite your needs> >> >> >> Четверг, 13 февраля 2014, 10:56 -08:00 от Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES@ORACLE.COM>: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am a blind user who is just getting his feet wet with MikTex. >>> >>> I have a number of Microsoft word documents I wish to convert into LaTex format because I think I could have greater control over the formatting in LaTex. >>> >>> >>> >>> The TexWorks program is totally inaccessible using a screenreader, so I have to work at the command-line. >>> >>> >>> >>> Is there a way to convert the word documents into LaTex format? >>> >>> Also once in Latex, I would like to be able to conver them back to word format so my editor could work in word to make any corrections/edits. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sincerely, Don >>> >>> HYPERLINK " http://www.oracle.com/" \nOracle >>> DON RAIKES | Accessibility Specialist >>> Phone: HYPERLINK "tel:+15202717608"+15202717608 >>> Oracle JDeveloper Quality Assurance >>> Arizona >>> >>> HYPERLINK " http://www.oracle.com/commitment" \nGreen Oracle >>> >>> Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 >>> Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. >>> Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. >>> Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MiKTeX-Users mailing list >>> MiK...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/miktex-users >>> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > MiKTeX-Users mailing list > MiK...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/miktex-users |
From: Jack L. <jac...@co...> - 2014-02-13 21:23:20
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Hi, Bastiaan. Thanks for your thoughts. You wrote: > If LyX converts to and from Word then that is new to me. You're right--it doesn't. I was just trying to think of a simpler solution for someone who is blind, but I came in late to the discussion and missed the part about needing to convert from Word to LaTeX. Writer2LaTeX, an add-in for OpenOffice.org Writer, does a very good job and is highly configurable--and free: http://writer2latex.sourceforge.net/ http://www.openoffice.org/ To use it, you have to open the Word document in Writer and then export as LaTeX. If people need to convert directly from Word to LyX, they can try my LyXConverter, which is a Word add-in. I'm biased, but I think it works very well. I use it a lot: http://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/LyXConverter Best wishes, Jack Lyon The Editorium http://www.editorium.com On 2/13/2014 1:44 PM, Bastiaan Veelo wrote: > Hi! > > If LyX converts to and from Word then that is new to me. > > Also, I can imagine that being able to hear the layout spoken out to you and being able to type in what the structure of the document should be is part of the point for a blind person, so any tool that converts this information to purely visible clues is not an aid in this regard. LyX is great, if you have vision. > > It is a long time ago since I tried a Word-to-LaTeX converter, but these tend to generate extra code in an attempt to make the output resemple the input as much as possible, adding complexity that I suppose would be a great disadvantage for blind people, not the least because there is no screen reader that does syntax highlighting. Do try these tools, but it may well be the most productive to just cut and paste the text into an text editor and turn it into a LaTeX document by hand. > > Regarding backwards conversion: it may be easier and more effective to convert your editor to LaTeX than to convert your documents to Word :-) And you only need to do it once! Really, it will improve his professionalism and the printed output. And he would not be alone, there are editors that accept LaTeX exclusively… > > Good luck, > Bastiaan. > > > > On 13 Feb 2014, at 21:14, Jack Lyon <jac...@co...> wrote: > >> You might try LyX: >> >> http://www.lyx.org >> >> Beautiful documents using LaTeX but without all that coding. >> >> Best wishes, >> Jack Lyon >> The Editorium >> http://www.editorium.com >> >> On 2/13/2014 12:54 PM, Vladimir Yumashev wrote: >>> If your editor can edit plain text then you can modify LaTeX document directly >>> without the need to return to word. Also note that there are numerous shells >>> for LaTeX (and MikTeX in particular): Winedt, Wintex, Winshell etc. Some may >>> appear to suite your needs> >>> >>> >>> Четверг, 13 февраля 2014, 10:56 -08:00 от Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES@ORACLE.COM>: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am a blind user who is just getting his feet wet with MikTex. >>>> >>>> I have a number of Microsoft word documents I wish to convert into LaTex format because I think I could have greater control over the formatting in LaTex. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The TexWorks program is totally inaccessible using a screenreader, so I have to work at the command-line. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Is there a way to convert the word documents into LaTex format? >>>> >>>> Also once in Latex, I would like to be able to conver them back to word format so my editor could work in word to make any corrections/edits. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sincerely, Don >>>> >>>> HYPERLINK " http://www.oracle.com/" \nOracle >>>> DON RAIKES | Accessibility Specialist >>>> Phone: HYPERLINK "tel:+15202717608"+15202717608 >>>> Oracle JDeveloper Quality Assurance >>>> Arizona >>>> >>>> HYPERLINK " http://www.oracle.com/commitment" \nGreen Oracle >>>> >>>> Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 >>>> Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. >>>> Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. >>>> Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. >>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MiKTeX-Users mailing list >>>> MiK...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/miktex-users >>>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 >> Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. >> Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. >> Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> MiKTeX-Users mailing list >> MiK...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/miktex-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > MiKTeX-Users mailing list > MiK...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/miktex-users |
From: William A. <wil...@co...> - 2014-02-13 22:30:28
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+1 On 13/02/2014 3:44 PM, Bastiaan Veelo wrote: > Regarding backwards conversion: it may be easier and more effective to convert your editor to LaTeX than to convert your documents to Word :-) And you only need to do it once! Really, it will improve his professionalism and the printed output. And he would not be alone, there are editors that accept LaTeX exclusively… -- Dr. J.W. Atwood, Eng. tel: +1 (514) 848-2424 x3046 Distinguished Professor Emeritus fax: +1 (514) 848-2830 Department of Computer Science and Software Engineering Concordia University EV 3.185 email:wil...@co... 1455 de Maisonneuve Blvd. West http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~bill Montreal, Quebec Canada H3G 1M8 |
From: David P Á <da...@mi...> - 2014-02-13 20:24:57
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On 13/02/2014 19:56, Don Raikes wrote: > Also once in Latex, I would like to be able to conver them back to word format so my editor could work in word to make any corrections/edits. Hi, I'm a blind LaTeX user as well. Round-tripping word to latex to word is unlikely to have full fidelity. That said, there's a package called tex4ht that does conversions from latex into html and OpenOffice format. htlatex and oolatex commands respectively. Office should be able to read these, I believe, and possibly to write them. Regards, --David. |