From: paul s <mac...@qu...> - 2008-05-29 18:45:45
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Hi - I have a mbp4,1 and i have been watching the internal temperatures of the core and disk using lm_sensors default setup configuration... i've noted that my fan speed is at zero or 2000 rpm but never above that... my question is should it ever go above that? when i've used my machine for hours the drive temp goes in the red and the core approaches it.. ~110F AppleSMC successfully loads at boot so is there cause for concern? does smc completely regulate the fan speed effectively? this is an unpatched 2.6.24.7-92 kernel... cheers paul |
From: Justin M. <jus...@gm...> - 2008-05-29 20:56:38
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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:45 PM, paul s <mac...@qu...> wrote: > Hi - > > I have a mbp4,1 and i have been watching the internal temperatures of > the core and disk using lm_sensors default setup configuration... i've > noted that my fan speed is at zero or 2000 rpm but never above that... > my question is should it ever go above that? when i've used my machine > for hours the drive temp goes in the red and the core approaches it.. ~110F > > AppleSMC successfully loads at boot so is there cause for concern? does > smc completely regulate the fan speed effectively? this is an unpatched > 2.6.24.7-92 kernel... > > cheers > paul > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mactel-linux-users mailing list > Mac...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users > Hello; you can try playing a video online that uses flashplayer to have the fan's rev, or use glxgear or fgl_glxgears in a terminal to rev the fan's also to check and make sure the fan's are responding, or cd /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768 to adjust the fans manually i.g. echo "1" > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_manual <--takes the fans from auto to manual(now you're in control); 1 = manual 0 = auto then after you have changed from auto(0) to manual(1) you can set the speed you want with this: echo "3000" >/sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_output {I think the highest is 6000, but could be wrong}; Google to make sure I haven't missed anything. Hopefully you're fans are responding, and hopefully there isn't an issue with the macbook you have with applesmc, or acpi. If there is maybe posting on lkml so they are aware, and filling out a bugreport would be good. regards; -- Justin P. Mattock |
From: paul s <mac...@qu...> - 2008-05-30 02:32:32
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Hi Justin - i have those lines in my /etc/rc.local... yet they remain at 0 and 2000 when i try to set the value to 1 from the terminal it returns: "echo: write error: Input/output error" ... i've searched on google for information and can not find anything about this... perhaps it is a bug, where would we file it? cheers paul Justin Mattock wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:45 PM, paul s > <mac...@qu...> wrote: >> Hi - >> >> I have a mbp4,1 and i have been watching the internal temperatures of >> the core and disk using lm_sensors default setup configuration... i've >> noted that my fan speed is at zero or 2000 rpm but never above that... >> my question is should it ever go above that? when i've used my machine >> for hours the drive temp goes in the red and the core approaches it.. ~110F >> >> AppleSMC successfully loads at boot so is there cause for concern? does >> smc completely regulate the fan speed effectively? this is an unpatched >> 2.6.24.7-92 kernel... >> >> cheers >> paul >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mactel-linux-users mailing list >> Mac...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users >> > > Hello; you can try playing a video online that uses flashplayer to > have the fan's rev, or use glxgear or fgl_glxgears in a terminal to > rev the fan's also to check and make sure the fan's are responding, or > cd /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768 to adjust the fans manually i.g. > echo "1" > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_manual <--takes the > fans from auto to manual(now you're in control); > 1 = manual > 0 = auto > then after you have changed from auto(0) to manual(1) you can set the > speed you want with this: > echo "3000" >/sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_output {I think > the highest is 6000, but could be wrong}; > Google to make sure I haven't missed anything. > Hopefully you're fans are responding, and hopefully there isn't an > issue with the macbook you have with applesmc, or acpi. > If there is maybe posting on lkml so they are aware, and filling out a > bugreport would be good. > regards; |
From: Justin M. <jus...@gm...> - 2008-05-30 02:51:45
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On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:32 AM, paul s <mac...@qu...> wrote: > Hi Justin - > > i have those lines in my /etc/rc.local... yet they remain at 0 and 2000 > when i try to set the value to 1 from the terminal it returns: > "echo: write error: Input/output error" ... I was hoping it was more simpler than that, Hopefully somebody might have an answer to this one. >From experience I did notice something similar, but was different, whenever I would change into /proc/sys and then issue ls -l I would receive a segmentation fault., In my case I decided to reinstall, But In you're case you probably don't, either send a post to kernel.org or I will and see if it's an easy solution. also check and see if there is a bugreport on this > > i've searched on google for information and can not find anything about > this... perhaps it is a bug, where would we file it? here is where you can file a bug report: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/ > > cheers > paul > > > Justin Mattock wrote: >> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:45 PM, paul s >> <mac...@qu...> wrote: >>> Hi - >>> >>> I have a mbp4,1 and i have been watching the internal temperatures of >>> the core and disk using lm_sensors default setup configuration... i've >>> noted that my fan speed is at zero or 2000 rpm but never above that... >>> my question is should it ever go above that? when i've used my machine >>> for hours the drive temp goes in the red and the core approaches it.. ~110F >>> >>> AppleSMC successfully loads at boot so is there cause for concern? does >>> smc completely regulate the fan speed effectively? this is an unpatched >>> 2.6.24.7-92 kernel... >>> >>> cheers >>> paul >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mactel-linux-users mailing list >>> Mac...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users >>> >> >> Hello; you can try playing a video online that uses flashplayer to >> have the fan's rev, or use glxgear or fgl_glxgears in a terminal to >> rev the fan's also to check and make sure the fan's are responding, or >> cd /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768 to adjust the fans manually i.g. >> echo "1" > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_manual <--takes the >> fans from auto to manual(now you're in control); >> 1 = manual >> 0 = auto >> then after you have changed from auto(0) to manual(1) you can set the >> speed you want with this: >> echo "3000" >/sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_output {I think >> the highest is 6000, but could be wrong}; >> Google to make sure I haven't missed anything. >> Hopefully you're fans are responding, and hopefully there isn't an >> issue with the macbook you have with applesmc, or acpi. >> If there is maybe posting on lkml so they are aware, and filling out a >> bugreport would be good. >> regards; > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mactel-linux-users mailing list > Mac...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users > Maybe there was something wrong with one of the patches that you used. Like I said from the beginning I was hoping it was a simple solution. regards; -- Justin P. Mattock |
From: paul s <mac...@qu...> - 2008-05-30 03:01:09
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i'm not sure if it is bug worthy... i found that by changing the min values of the fans i could hear it and see the rpm's increase... sudo echo 4000 > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_min sudo echo 4000 > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan2_min it is cooling off the drive ~102F and core at ~91F so i am pretty sure that it is just running at 2000 rpm out of the box... bringing the minimum up to 6000 also seemed to work as it sounds like it does in osx... i just hope i haven't done too much damage [thank you apple care]... but i was wondering why it was getting so hot... Justin Mattock wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:32 AM, paul s > <mac...@qu...> wrote: >> Hi Justin - >> >> i have those lines in my /etc/rc.local... yet they remain at 0 and 2000 >> when i try to set the value to 1 from the terminal it returns: >> "echo: write error: Input/output error" ... > > > I was hoping it was more simpler than that, Hopefully somebody might > have an answer to this one. >>From experience I did notice something similar, but was different, > whenever I would change into /proc/sys and then issue ls -l > I would receive a segmentation fault., In my case I decided to > reinstall, But In you're case you probably don't, > either send a post to kernel.org or I will and see if it's an easy > solution. also check and see if there is a bugreport on this > >> i've searched on google for information and can not find anything about >> this... perhaps it is a bug, where would we file it? > > here is where you can file a bug report: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/ > >> cheers >> paul >> >> >> Justin Mattock wrote: >>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:45 PM, paul s >>> <mac...@qu...> wrote: >>>> Hi - >>>> >>>> I have a mbp4,1 and i have been watching the internal temperatures of >>>> the core and disk using lm_sensors default setup configuration... i've >>>> noted that my fan speed is at zero or 2000 rpm but never above that... >>>> my question is should it ever go above that? when i've used my machine >>>> for hours the drive temp goes in the red and the core approaches it.. ~110F >>>> >>>> AppleSMC successfully loads at boot so is there cause for concern? does >>>> smc completely regulate the fan speed effectively? this is an unpatched >>>> 2.6.24.7-92 kernel... >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> paul >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mactel-linux-users mailing list >>>> Mac...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users >>>> >>> Hello; you can try playing a video online that uses flashplayer to >>> have the fan's rev, or use glxgear or fgl_glxgears in a terminal to >>> rev the fan's also to check and make sure the fan's are responding, or >>> cd /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768 to adjust the fans manually i.g. >>> echo "1" > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_manual <--takes the >>> fans from auto to manual(now you're in control); >>> 1 = manual >>> 0 = auto >>> then after you have changed from auto(0) to manual(1) you can set the >>> speed you want with this: >>> echo "3000" >/sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_output {I think >>> the highest is 6000, but could be wrong}; >>> Google to make sure I haven't missed anything. >>> Hopefully you're fans are responding, and hopefully there isn't an >>> issue with the macbook you have with applesmc, or acpi. >>> If there is maybe posting on lkml so they are aware, and filling out a >>> bugreport would be good. >>> regards; >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mactel-linux-users mailing list >> Mac...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users >> > > Maybe there was something wrong with one of the patches that you used. > Like I said from the beginning I was hoping it was a simple solution. > regards; > |
From: Justin M. <jus...@gm...> - 2008-05-30 04:29:21
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On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:00 AM, paul s <mac...@qu...> wrote: > i'm not sure if it is bug worthy... i found that by changing the min > values of the fans i could hear it and see the rpm's increase... > > sudo echo 4000 > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_min > sudo echo 4000 > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan2_min > > it is cooling off the drive ~102F and core at ~91F so i am pretty sure > that it is just running at 2000 rpm out of the box... bringing the > minimum up to 6000 also seemed to work as it sounds like it does in > osx... i just hope i haven't done too much damage [thank you apple > care]... but i was wondering why it was getting so hot... > > > > > Justin Mattock wrote: >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:32 AM, paul s >> <mac...@qu...> wrote: >>> Hi Justin - >>> >>> i have those lines in my /etc/rc.local... yet they remain at 0 and 2000 >>> when i try to set the value to 1 from the terminal it returns: >>> "echo: write error: Input/output error" ... >> >> >> I was hoping it was more simpler than that, Hopefully somebody might >> have an answer to this one. >>>From experience I did notice something similar, but was different, >> whenever I would change into /proc/sys and then issue ls -l >> I would receive a segmentation fault., In my case I decided to >> reinstall, But In you're case you probably don't, >> either send a post to kernel.org or I will and see if it's an easy >> solution. also check and see if there is a bugreport on this >> >>> i've searched on google for information and can not find anything about >>> this... perhaps it is a bug, where would we file it? >> >> here is where you can file a bug report: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/ >> >>> cheers >>> paul >>> >>> >>> Justin Mattock wrote: >>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:45 PM, paul s >>>> <mac...@qu...> wrote: >>>>> Hi - >>>>> >>>>> I have a mbp4,1 and i have been watching the internal temperatures of >>>>> the core and disk using lm_sensors default setup configuration... i've >>>>> noted that my fan speed is at zero or 2000 rpm but never above that... >>>>> my question is should it ever go above that? when i've used my machine >>>>> for hours the drive temp goes in the red and the core approaches it.. ~110F >>>>> >>>>> AppleSMC successfully loads at boot so is there cause for concern? does >>>>> smc completely regulate the fan speed effectively? this is an unpatched >>>>> 2.6.24.7-92 kernel... >>>>> >>>>> cheers >>>>> paul >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mactel-linux-users mailing list >>>>> Mac...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users >>>>> >>>> Hello; you can try playing a video online that uses flashplayer to >>>> have the fan's rev, or use glxgear or fgl_glxgears in a terminal to >>>> rev the fan's also to check and make sure the fan's are responding, or >>>> cd /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768 to adjust the fans manually i.g. >>>> echo "1" > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_manual <--takes the >>>> fans from auto to manual(now you're in control); >>>> 1 = manual >>>> 0 = auto >>>> then after you have changed from auto(0) to manual(1) you can set the >>>> speed you want with this: >>>> echo "3000" >/sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_output {I think >>>> the highest is 6000, but could be wrong}; >>>> Google to make sure I haven't missed anything. >>>> Hopefully you're fans are responding, and hopefully there isn't an >>>> issue with the macbook you have with applesmc, or acpi. >>>> If there is maybe posting on lkml so they are aware, and filling out a >>>> bugreport would be good. >>>> regards; >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mactel-linux-users mailing list >>> Mac...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users >>> >> >> Maybe there was something wrong with one of the patches that you used. >> Like I said from the beginning I was hoping it was a simple solution. >> regards; >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Mactel-linux-users mailing list > Mac...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users > Hello; I have to macbook pro with the ATI chipset, now for a while I was putting the laptop in the freezer for few minuets to cool things down, then there was a tool that saved the day "radeontool", basically I don't know about nvidia, but with the ATI, the graphics card was on maxpower causing the heat, using radeontool puts the graphics card in low power, causing me to not put my laptop in the freezer anymore see if there is such a thing for nvidia if you have that, if you have ATI then just Google radeontool. Also I'm glad you're fans are working. regards; -- Justin P. Mattock |
From: paul s <mac...@qu...> - 2008-06-01 07:36:44
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i found this over the weekend and have been using it to regulate my fans.. . https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro/SantaRosaFanControl i've been playing around with the fans all weekend and getting optimal temperature while i work... no more burning on the left side of the mbp4... i like this solution because it determines a variable output for the fan speed by controlling the minimum rpm... so watching ksensors i could see the rpm vary based on what i was doing with the laptop.. more intense operations caused an increase and idle times brought the rpms down... personally i've modified the script to take into consideration the disk temperature as well... as this only uses the four sensors... when there are twelve... i'd like to know what those other ones do... i'd also like to know what the idle temp, optimal temp, max temp, and a shutdown temp would be... i'll try to figure out how to send email to apple and see if i can gather this information... i've added this instead to my rc.local just as a precaution since running the fan manually doesn't seem to work for me... sudo echo 4000 > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_min sudo echo 4000 > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan2_min cheers paul Justin Mattock wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:00 AM, paul s > <mac...@qu...> wrote: >> i'm not sure if it is bug worthy... i found that by changing the min >> values of the fans i could hear it and see the rpm's increase... >> >> sudo echo 4000 > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_min >> sudo echo 4000 > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan2_min >> >> it is cooling off the drive ~102F and core at ~91F so i am pretty sure >> that it is just running at 2000 rpm out of the box... bringing the >> minimum up to 6000 also seemed to work as it sounds like it does in >> osx... i just hope i haven't done too much damage [thank you apple >> care]... but i was wondering why it was getting so hot... >> >> >> >> >> Justin Mattock wrote: >>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:32 AM, paul s >>> <mac...@qu...> wrote: >>>> Hi Justin - >>>> >>>> i have those lines in my /etc/rc.local... yet they remain at 0 and 2000 >>>> when i try to set the value to 1 from the terminal it returns: >>>> "echo: write error: Input/output error" ... >>> >>> I was hoping it was more simpler than that, Hopefully somebody might >>> have an answer to this one. >>> >From experience I did notice something similar, but was different, >>> whenever I would change into /proc/sys and then issue ls -l >>> I would receive a segmentation fault., In my case I decided to >>> reinstall, But In you're case you probably don't, >>> either send a post to kernel.org or I will and see if it's an easy >>> solution. also check and see if there is a bugreport on this >>> >>>> i've searched on google for information and can not find anything about >>>> this... perhaps it is a bug, where would we file it? >>> here is where you can file a bug report: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/ >>> >>>> cheers >>>> paul >>>> >>>> >>>> Justin Mattock wrote: >>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:45 PM, paul s >>>>> <mac...@qu...> wrote: >>>>>> Hi - >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a mbp4,1 and i have been watching the internal temperatures of >>>>>> the core and disk using lm_sensors default setup configuration... i've >>>>>> noted that my fan speed is at zero or 2000 rpm but never above that... >>>>>> my question is should it ever go above that? when i've used my machine >>>>>> for hours the drive temp goes in the red and the core approaches it.. ~110F >>>>>> >>>>>> AppleSMC successfully loads at boot so is there cause for concern? does >>>>>> smc completely regulate the fan speed effectively? this is an unpatched >>>>>> 2.6.24.7-92 kernel... >>>>>> >>>>>> cheers >>>>>> paul >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mactel-linux-users mailing list >>>>>> Mac...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users >>>>>> >>>>> Hello; you can try playing a video online that uses flashplayer to >>>>> have the fan's rev, or use glxgear or fgl_glxgears in a terminal to >>>>> rev the fan's also to check and make sure the fan's are responding, or >>>>> cd /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768 to adjust the fans manually i.g. >>>>> echo "1" > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_manual <--takes the >>>>> fans from auto to manual(now you're in control); >>>>> 1 = manual >>>>> 0 = auto >>>>> then after you have changed from auto(0) to manual(1) you can set the >>>>> speed you want with this: >>>>> echo "3000" >/sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_output {I think >>>>> the highest is 6000, but could be wrong}; >>>>> Google to make sure I haven't missed anything. >>>>> Hopefully you're fans are responding, and hopefully there isn't an >>>>> issue with the macbook you have with applesmc, or acpi. >>>>> If there is maybe posting on lkml so they are aware, and filling out a >>>>> bugreport would be good. >>>>> regards; >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mactel-linux-users mailing list >>>> Mac...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users >>>> >>> Maybe there was something wrong with one of the patches that you used. >>> Like I said from the beginning I was hoping it was a simple solution. >>> regards; >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Mactel-linux-users mailing list >> Mac...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users >> > > Hello; I have to macbook pro with the ATI chipset, now for a while I > was putting the laptop in the freezer for few minuets to cool things > down, > then there was a tool that saved the day "radeontool", basically I > don't know about nvidia, but with the ATI, the graphics card was on > maxpower > causing the heat, using radeontool puts the graphics card in low > power, causing me to not put my laptop in the freezer anymore > see if there is such a thing for nvidia if you have that, if you have > ATI then just Google radeontool. > Also I'm glad you're fans are working. > regards; > |