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From: Malachi C. <ma...@ma...> - 2007-07-09 17:24:45
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On Sat, July 7, 2007 9:14 pm, will wrote: [snip] > > Any thoughts on this? How many people are still using Lyntin? > > > /will > I have very little to say in where the documentation ends up. I haven't used it in a while, nor have I visited the website in a long time. Anywhere that makes it available to people is fine by me. That being said, I use Lyntin 24/7 (literally). It is a great client. I am still actively adding modules to it. |
From: Will G. <wil...@gm...> - 2007-07-09 17:16:46
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(I'm responding to the list because it's a good topic.) I just re-added the old wiki content to the SF wiki. One of the items was Lyntin 5.0 thoughts and it covers something along these lines. Definitely worth checking out: http://lyntin.wiki.sourceforge.net/Lyntin5.0Thoughts One of the ideas is to all the Tintin functionality and switch to a Python shell with the various "commands" being converted to Python functions. It's possible that Leantin is already like this--if I looked at Leantin, it was a long time ago and I don't remember anything from it. I think this is really different from what Lyntin currently is. While you could shoe-horn Lyntin into this new mission, I think it's probably better to fork the project and start off with new design decisions. Then you figure out what the new thing entails and take what you need from Lyntin and leave the rest as is. I think this is beyond the scope of what I can do for 4.2, though. I could add some more things to the locals so that it's easier to access things from #@ and that might be interesting to do. Sebastian mentioned wanting multi-line support in Lyntin a long long time ago--I can look into providing that for 4.2. You'd need something like that for Python things to be useful, I would think. /will On 7/9/07, josh jordan <jos...@gm...> wrote: > I wish it were alot simpler, maybe you could just hack it down to a > python shell that can connect to mud servers. |
From: George T. <ly...@se...> - 2007-07-09 16:45:08
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I just wanted to chime in and say that I still mud occasionally and when I do it is always with Lyntin. By far the best client ever! Thanks to you all for your work George On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 00:14 -0400, will wrote: > Hi! > > I really apologize for falling off the face of the earth for the last > month and a half--too many things going on. > > I spent some time today extracting the data from the phpwiki we had on > the web-site. It took a while to figure out what the format for the > db files was, but then I figured out it's gdbm and I pulled down a > Python module for gdbm, extracted the data, and started reformatting > it. > > My question is this: what do we want to do with it? > > SourceForge has all web-sites on a read-only file system, so there's > no way we can put up another file-based wiki again. We could go with > mediawiki, but ... since none of us are putting a huge amount of time > into Lyntin, I don't think we'd put a lot of time into editing the > wiki and it'll just fill with spam and continue to be useless. So I > think I'm against doing another wiki. > > We could absorb the files into documentation, convert it to reST, > check it into CVS with the rest of Lyntin, and then post it on the > site in HTML form. I just did something similar to that with > PyBlosxom, so doing it for Lyntin is more of a "putting in the time" > issue than a "figure out how to do it all" issue. > > Or some third option I haven't thought of. > > Any thoughts on this? How many people are still using Lyntin? > > /will > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Lyntin-devl mailing list > Lyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lyntin-devl |
From: Will G. <wil...@gm...> - 2007-07-09 03:21:44
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Hi gang! I said I was interested in doing a Lyntin 4.2 a while back. I figured I'd put out a call for requests for Lyntin 4.2. The grounds rules for requests are these: 1. I don't have a lot of time to put into Lyntin and I don't really use it anymore. I'm mostly doing this for the purposes of keeping the project going until either Eugene gets a lot of free time or someone comes along that he wants to hand it off to. 2. Given that, I'm happy to do quick fixes, minor updates, and things like that. I'm definitely not going to do any refactoring, rewriting, or redesigning. If you're interested in stuff like that, I'd be happy to review patches and check them in, but I won't be doing the initial work. I think that's about it. My plans for the 4.2 release is to update the setup stuff to use the setuptools package, upgrade the license to GPL 3, fix any bugs that we know about that aren't going to take weeks to fix, and possibly skim through the code and adjust anything that looks like it could benefit from new features in Python 2.5. It sort of depends on how aggressive I get. I'll be targeting a September release so that gives us all some time to let this sink in and figure out what we want to accomplish and then time to accomplish it. I'm also tossing around moving everything over to SVN. If I get really excited, I'll migrate the history over. Otherwise I'll just leave the CVS stuff as is and do any new development in SVN. I'm happy to hear any thoughts on that as well. So let this email flesh out what should go in 4.2. I'll records anything on the wiki and build a rough design document sketch for the release and then start working on things. Hope this finds you all in happy places. :) Rock on! /will |
From: Will G. <wil...@gm...> - 2007-07-09 03:14:22
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On 7/8/07, will <wi...@bl...> wrote: > I think that's a lot more work because then we also have to move the > project. The project is pretty dormant. I don't use Lyntin anymore, > so I don't want to pick it up and maintain the project again. If > someone else wanted to pick it up, that'd be cool, but otherwise I'm > not sure it's worth the effort and confusion that would surround > moving the project to another host. > > On a side note, I feel kind of stupid because I was involved in the > SourceForge wiki beta test, but had forgotten about it. I'll put > these files in the SourceForge wiki for now. Ok. I've gone through and moved the content from the old dead wiki to the SourceForge wiki system. It's not a great wiki system... but it'll do for now. If anyone has any thoughts about it, let us know. /will |
From: will <wi...@bl...> - 2007-07-08 13:46:11
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On 7/8/07, Rob Cakebread <gen...@gm...> wrote: > On 7/7/07, will <wi...@bl...> wrote: > > We could absorb the files into documentation, convert it to reST, > > check it into CVS with the rest of Lyntin, and then post it on the > > site in HTML form. I just did something similar to that with > > PyBlosxom, so doing it for Lyntin is more of a "putting in the time" > > issue than a "figure out how to do it all" issue. > > > > Or some third option I haven't thought of. > > There was talk a while back about switching to Trac, any chances of > that still happening? There are quite a few free Trac sites out there > now. You could limit the wiki access to whoever you want. > > I'd be willing to help convert to a Trac wiki. I think that's a lot more work because then we also have to move the project. The project is pretty dormant. I don't use Lyntin anymore, so I don't want to pick it up and maintain the project again. If someone else wanted to pick it up, that'd be cool, but otherwise I'm not sure it's worth the effort and confusion that would surround moving the project to another host. On a side note, I feel kind of stupid because I was involved in the SourceForge wiki beta test, but had forgotten about it. I'll put these files in the SourceForge wiki for now. /will |
From: Rob C. <gen...@gm...> - 2007-07-08 04:27:31
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On 7/7/07, will <wi...@bl...> wrote: > We could absorb the files into documentation, convert it to reST, > check it into CVS with the rest of Lyntin, and then post it on the > site in HTML form. I just did something similar to that with > PyBlosxom, so doing it for Lyntin is more of a "putting in the time" > issue than a "figure out how to do it all" issue. > > Or some third option I haven't thought of. > There was talk a while back about switching to Trac, any chances of that still happening? There are quite a few free Trac sites out there now. You could limit the wiki access to whoever you want. I'd be willing to help convert to a Trac wiki. |
From: will <wi...@bl...> - 2007-07-08 04:14:06
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Hi! I really apologize for falling off the face of the earth for the last month and a half--too many things going on. I spent some time today extracting the data from the phpwiki we had on the web-site. It took a while to figure out what the format for the db files was, but then I figured out it's gdbm and I pulled down a Python module for gdbm, extracted the data, and started reformatting it. My question is this: what do we want to do with it? SourceForge has all web-sites on a read-only file system, so there's no way we can put up another file-based wiki again. We could go with mediawiki, but ... since none of us are putting a huge amount of time into Lyntin, I don't think we'd put a lot of time into editing the wiki and it'll just fill with spam and continue to be useless. So I think I'm against doing another wiki. We could absorb the files into documentation, convert it to reST, check it into CVS with the rest of Lyntin, and then post it on the site in HTML form. I just did something similar to that with PyBlosxom, so doing it for Lyntin is more of a "putting in the time" issue than a "figure out how to do it all" issue. Or some third option I haven't thought of. Any thoughts on this? How many people are still using Lyntin? /will |
From: will <wi...@bl...> - 2007-06-06 14:12:34
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On 6/6/07, Eugene K. <lyn...@gm...> wrote: > > Yes, I am. Sorry, I was a bit busy. > > Will, I'd really appreciate if you did the fixes and the release. Ok--sounds good. I'll put out a call for changes, check the bug tracker and feature tracker, and poll the community for any changes. I'll fix the web-site, too. /will |
From: Eugene K. <lyn...@gm...> - 2007-06-06 07:02:04
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On 6/6/07, will <wi...@bl...> wrote: > > I had handed maintenance off to Eugene, but if there's call for it, I > can do a maintenance release and fix up the web-site. I've got some > down-time now while I look for a job and I can spend some time fixing > things up that need fixing. > > Any other outstanding issues that need addressing? > > Eugene--you out there? > > /will Yes, I am. Sorry, I was a bit busy. Will, I'd really appreciate if you did the fixes and the release. -- Eugene |
From: will <wi...@bl...> - 2007-06-05 23:03:22
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On 6/5/07, David Clymer <da...@ze...> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 04:56 -0700, S Pinker wrote: > > Your php script is broken: > > http://lyntin.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php > > > > Try it out: > > http://lyntin.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php?WishList > > I think you'll find this project is, for the most part, dead. Don't get > me wrong, the lyntin client is still _great_, but unlikely to be > modified or improved. You can just think of it as being _very_ stable. I had handed maintenance off to Eugene, but if there's call for it, I can do a maintenance release and fix up the web-site. I've got some down-time now while I look for a job and I can spend some time fixing things up that need fixing. Any other outstanding issues that need addressing? Eugene--you out there? /will |
From: David C. <da...@ze...> - 2007-06-05 22:58:55
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On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 04:56 -0700, S Pinker wrote: > Your php script is broken: > http://lyntin.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php >=20 > Try it out: > http://lyntin.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php?WishList I think you'll find this project is, for the most part, dead. Don't get me wrong, the lyntin client is still _great_, but unlikely to be modified or improved. You can just think of it as being _very_ stable. -davidc --=20 gpg-key: http://www.zettazebra.com/files/key.gpg |
From: Bryan M. <con...@gm...> - 2007-06-05 12:32:36
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I am the author of the wxPython ui thats currently in the module directory. I have been away from mudding for a couple years now and am only now just getting back into it. Because of this the wxPythonui hasn't been updated in ages. Aditionally, I am ging to be moving in a month or so and will lose the web hosting where the script is stored. As I dont know when and if I will ever update it, (i am using the curses ui mainly) can we just delete it from the module repository? or is there someplace else to move it to? I am more then willing to let anyone else take it and update and modify it if they find it useful.. if not.. in about 2 months it will end up being a dead link. Conlaoch aka Bryan Muir |
From: S P. <ste...@ya...> - 2007-06-04 11:57:28
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Your php script is broken: http://lyntin.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php Try it out: http://lyntin.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php?WishList ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC |
From: David C. <da...@ze...> - 2006-10-25 06:52:56
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On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 11:04 -0500, will guaraldi wrote: > Lyntin development has been pretty dead the last couple of years. The=20 > web-site could use some tlc, it'd behoove the project greatly to switch=20 > from CVS to SVN, and there are a series of niceties that I'd like to do: >=20 > * help text indexing (nothing complicated--a frequency search is fine) > * module listing > * run Lyntin through cheesecake and nicefy the code > * maybe do some unit tests > * update the Lyntin documentation > * possibly do the work to fix the net module > * possibly investigate what would be involved for a Windows .exe >=20 > I figured I'd check in and see what the status was and if there was=20 > anything else anyone was interested in. >=20 > What're people thinking? >=20 I was fiddling around with launchpad (unbuntu's SF-ish site) recently, trying to see how it worked, and created a project entry there for lyntin. Since I'm a bazaar (http://bazaar-vcs.org) fanboy, I thought it would be neat to have access to lyntin's revision control info without having to use CVS. Launchpad mirrors the main CVS branch and makes it available as a bazaar branch. Changes made in sourceforge CVS get imported and show up there as well. In retrospect, it probably wasn't really appropriate, since I'm not officially associated with lyntin (ie. project maintainer, developer, etc). Unfortunately, I don't know how to delete the entry. There doesn't seem to be any way to do that. However, if desired, I'll see if I can find who to contact to remove the product from launchpad. Alternatively, if Eugene or Will have (or sign up for) launchpad accounts, I can hand over the project to someone who's legit. -davidc --=20 gpg-key: http://www.zettazebra.com/files/key.gpg |
From: Malachi C. <ma...@ma...> - 2006-09-02 22:48:30
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Ok, I figured it out. I guess I posted a prematurely. Just for the edification of future people who might have similar problems and for the archives... Gentoo marked as stable a new version of python, and changed the USE flags a bit recently (or I just didn't notice until now). This combination made it so that when python was recompiled, tk was not compiled into python. Change the USE flag, recompile, and bingo, the tkui works again. Hope that helps someone else. Malachi Clark wrote: > Hello everyone, > Perhaps someone can shed a quick light on a little problem I am having. > I usually run the tkui on my Lyntin. Recently it stopped working. > Prior to this it worked fine. The textui still works, as does the > cursesui. Just the tkui stopped. The error is below. The tkui.py file > is in the lyntin/ui/ directory. I even replaced it with a fresh copy > from the install source. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks in advance! > > > > $ ./runlyntin.pyw > Cannot start 'tk': ui 'tkui' does not exist. > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/home/malachi/lyntin/engine.py", line 994, in main > uiinstance = base.get_ui(modulename) > File "/home/malachi/lyntin/ui/base.py", line 34, in get_ui > raise ValueError("ui '%s' does not exist." % uiname) > ValueError: ui 'tkui' does not exist. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Lyntin-devl mailing list > Lyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lyntin-devl |
From: Malachi C. <ma...@ma...> - 2006-09-02 22:27:50
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Hello everyone, Perhaps someone can shed a quick light on a little problem I am having. I usually run the tkui on my Lyntin. Recently it stopped working. Prior to this it worked fine. The textui still works, as does the cursesui. Just the tkui stopped. The error is below. The tkui.py file is in the lyntin/ui/ directory. I even replaced it with a fresh copy from the install source. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! $ ./runlyntin.pyw Cannot start 'tk': ui 'tkui' does not exist. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/malachi/lyntin/engine.py", line 994, in main uiinstance = base.get_ui(modulename) File "/home/malachi/lyntin/ui/base.py", line 34, in get_ui raise ValueError("ui '%s' does not exist." % uiname) ValueError: ui 'tkui' does not exist. |
From: will g. <wi...@bl...> - 2006-07-31 14:35:18
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Eugene K. wrote: > > It's me. I checked google's new project, the "google code", whether it > can be used for subversion hosting. It seems not, if I understand it > well. Mmm... I read a couple of blog entries on it and I think it does do subversion hosting and has a bug tracker (which some folks were saying has some issues), but it doesn't do much else (won't host a web-site, ...). >From what I've seen so far, I think it's very likely that they'll ramp it up and in the future it may be a very viable and very nice-looking choice. Anyhow, I got this email and I suddenly got worried that someone might be ganking our project and I hadn't heard any murmerings about possible forking. /will |
From: Eugene K. <lyn...@gm...> - 2006-07-31 14:31:01
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On 7/31/06, will guaraldi <wi...@bl...> wrote: > > > Anyone know who requested a lyntin project on code.google.com? > > /will It's me. I checked google's new project, the "google code", whether it can be used for subversion hosting. It seems not, if I understand it well. -- Eugene |
From: will g. <wi...@bl...> - 2006-07-31 14:24:52
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Anyone know who requested a lyntin project on code.google.com? /will ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 03:17:29 -0700 From: cod...@go... To: wil...@us... Subject: Request for project "lyntin" on code.google.com Hello, You are getting this email because you are the owner of the lyntin open source project. The following user has attempted to create a new project with the same name to be hosted on code.google.com: lyn...@gm... You may indicate your opinion on whether we should allow the use of this project name by visiting the following page: http://code.google.com/hosting/nameApproval?p=lyntin&r=lyntin.maint%40gmail.com&t=150424d4 Thank you, Google Code [Note: This is an automated email message, please do not reply.] |
From: Simon S. <sim...@gm...> - 2006-07-28 19:30:45
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In my opinion, pressing function keys, keypad keys, etc., shouldn't generate history. It is particularly annoying when you have navigation bound to the keypad. When you then browse through the history you will then mostly find n, nw, etc., instead of things you've actually typed. It's trivial to change: in callBinding and _executeBinding we can call exported.lyntin_command with internal=1 instead of handleinput as it is now. This also disables the from_user_hook -- I don't know if that might have some consequences. Anyway, I find it much more pleasant. |
From: Simon S. <sim...@gm...> - 2006-07-27 20:16:06
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That F1 defaults to #help is natural, but I don't see why it shouldn't be rebindable. Here's a patch that changes that. |
From: will g. <wi...@bl...> - 2006-07-27 03:03:42
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I (finally) got a response to the bug I opened regarding migrating from CVS to SVN. Turns out they no longer migrate you anymore, you have to do most of the work yourself. I skimmed the documentation on how to do this and it's complex and nontrivial. While I'd like Lyntin to switch over to Subversion, I'm not going to get around to figuring it out anytime soon. /will |
From: will g. <wi...@bl...> - 2006-07-13 21:52:59
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Rrr.... SF won't do CVS -> SVN conversions at the moment. Looks like parts of their system is down. I'll check every now and then and when it is available, I'll request a migration. /will On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, will guaraldi wrote: > > I'll put in a request to switch the repository from CVS to SVN right now. > It'll probably take until Sunday for SF to do their thing and then for me to > update the SF project configuration. > > Beyond that, I think it sounds like a good idea to update the existing > web-site, probably move things from the wiki to plain-text pages, and leave > it at that for now. > > Any thoughts? > > /will > |
From: will g. <wi...@bl...> - 2006-07-13 17:16:19
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I'll put in a request to switch the repository from CVS to SVN right now. It'll probably take until Sunday for SF to do their thing and then for me to update the SF project configuration. Beyond that, I think it sounds like a good idea to update the existing web-site, probably move things from the wiki to plain-text pages, and leave it at that for now. Any thoughts? /will |