From: Scott M. <sco...@gm...> - 2005-10-23 23:49:08
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I am trying to use the internal softsynths. I have followed the guide here: http://www.muse-sequencer.org/wiki/index.php/Tutorial1 I can get it working great. Except for one thing. On certain 'D' notes, I get a tone that is an octave plus or minus a half-step above what the tone should be. Then, it echoes twice. I have tried other soundfont files, and they do the same thing. I'm using version 0.7.2pre2. Would anyone have any idea on what is causing that and/or what I could do to fix it? Thanks, Scott |
From: Robert J. <rj...@sp...> - 2005-10-24 07:54:22
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Hello Scott, On Monday 24 Oct 2005 01:48, Scott Morris wrote: > I am trying to use the internal softsynths. I have followed the guide > here: > > http://www.muse-sequencer.org/wiki/index.php/Tutorial1 > > I can get it working great. Except for one thing. On certain 'D' > notes, I get a tone that is an octave plus or minus a half-step above > what the tone should be. Then, it echoes twice. > > I have tried other soundfont files, and they do the same thing. > > I'm using version 0.7.2pre2. > > Would anyone have any idea on what is causing that and/or what I could > do to fix it? I have never heard of such a problem. My first thought is that it might be your keyboard that has a problem. To debug, check some of the other softsynths and see if the problem persists. If it does, try an external softsynth, e.g. ZynAddSubFX (it's a bit hairier to setup, if you need help do ask.) Also try enabling midi-input tracing, start muse from commandline with parameter -m ('muse -m') Then all midi messages entering MusE will be printed in the console. Hopefully you would be able to verify if the midi entering MusE is correct. Regards, Robert > > Thanks, > > Scott > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. > Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course > Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 > Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information > _______________________________________________ > Lmuse-user mailing list > Lmu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmuse-user -- http://spamatica.se/musicsite/ |
From: Philip N. <pan...@ya...> - 2005-10-24 13:52:49
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could it be an aftertouch, pressure thing from the keyboard? --- Robert Jonsson <rj...@sp...> wrote: > Hello Scott, > > On Monday 24 Oct 2005 01:48, Scott Morris wrote: > > I am trying to use the internal softsynths. I have followed the guide > > here: > > > > http://www.muse-sequencer.org/wiki/index.php/Tutorial1 > > > > I can get it working great. Except for one thing. On certain 'D' > > notes, I get a tone that is an octave plus or minus a half-step above > > what the tone should be. Then, it echoes twice. > > > > I have tried other soundfont files, and they do the same thing. > > > > I'm using version 0.7.2pre2. > > > > Would anyone have any idea on what is causing that and/or what I could > > do to fix it? > > I have never heard of such a problem. My first thought is that it might be > your keyboard that has a problem. > > To debug, check some of the other softsynths and see if the problem persists. > > If it does, try an external softsynth, e.g. ZynAddSubFX (it's a bit hairier > to > setup, if you need help do ask.) > > Also try enabling midi-input tracing, start muse from commandline with > parameter -m ('muse -m') > Then all midi messages entering MusE will be printed in the console. > Hopefully > you would be able to verify if the midi entering MusE is correct. > > Regards, > Robert > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Scott > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. > > Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course > > Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 > > Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information > > _______________________________________________ > > Lmuse-user mailing list > > Lmu...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmuse-user > > -- > http://spamatica.se/musicsite/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. > Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course > Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 > Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information > _______________________________________________ > Lmuse-user mailing list > Lmu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmuse-user > Philip - http://www.xcskiwinn.org/community/blogs/panmanphil/default.aspx "Now that was a bad vowel movement" - Barbara |
From: <lin...@ya...> - 2005-10-24 23:13:56
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hello everybody, i am using muse for almost 3 years now and its still a wonderful program - thanks again for the good work. there are still some little bugs, but all in all everything works fine and stable (i am still on 0.7.2_pre1(_agnula) and i really hope midi-sync is fixed now ;-) there is one feature that would make muse to the best live sequencer: is it perhaps possible to change the program, that it is possible to play a loop and than after a while playing, you start the record button and record midi and then you press the record button again and then the recording stops, but the playing keeps on running (and be able do that again and again without stopping)? that would be really perfekt. the only sequencer i now, that can do that is the korg electribe. every other hardware- or software-sequencer i know, needs to be stopped to chang between record- and play-modus... thanks for reading - perhaps some day ;-) ... greetings l.chaos -- _________________________________________________________________ http://www.audio4linux.de - musikmachen mit offenen quellen |
From: CK <ch...@lo...> - 2005-10-25 10:15:08
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I read: > is it perhaps possible to change the program, that it is possible to > play a loop and than after a while playing, you start the record button > and record midi and then you press the record button again and then the > recording stops, but the playing keeps on running (and be able do that > again and again without stopping)? I proposed a similar (but more cubase/logic'ish feature a bit ago) and would also think that stopping the playback to actually see the notes one just recorded is not exactly fitting my working style. > that would be really perfekt. the only sequencer i now, that can do that > is the korg electribe. every other hardware- or software-sequencer i > know, needs to be stopped to chang between record- and play-modus... for now you might want to look into seq24[0] which is a (midi-only) beast when you are really into live playing/looping/triggering of sequences. (though it's timing is a bit jittery when using jack transport at least on my box) (this was _not_ meant to bash muse - which I love - just there's more than one way to do it[tm] ;) cheers, x [0] http://www.filter24.org/seq24/ http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8304 -- ch...@lo... Postmodernism is german romanticism with better http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com) |
From: Robert J. <rj...@sp...> - 2005-10-29 21:02:11
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Hi, <...> > > that would be really perfekt. the only sequencer i now, that can do that > > is the korg electribe. every other hardware- or software-sequencer i > > know, needs to be stopped to chang between record- and play-modus... > > for now you might want to look into seq24[0] which is a (midi-only) beast > when you are really into live playing/looping/triggering of sequences. > (though it's timing is a bit jittery when using jack transport at least > on my box) > > (this was _not_ meant to bash muse - which I love - just there's more > than one way to do it[tm] ;) You are quite right.=20 In general I think users should feel free to use whatever they like, freedo= m=20 is important. Whether that means Seq24, Cubase, MusE or whatever. Though wi= th=20 the case of a for-pay app I just hope that people do the right thing and pa= y=20 for it. As for MusE itself, sure we want to solve all problems :) , but we really=20 can't solve everything...=20 But... you should not understimate the power of public competition, someti= mes=20 it makes things happen faster, and the unsolvable gets solved ;) my 2 =F6re, enough blabbering, back to the show. /Robert=20 > > cheers, > > x > > [0] http://www.filter24.org/seq24/ > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8304 =2D-=20 http://spamatica.se/musicsite/ |
From: Robert J. <rj...@sp...> - 2005-10-25 16:56:43
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Hi, > > I have never heard of such a problem. My first thought is that it might > > be your keyboard that has a problem. > > > > To debug, check some of the other softsynths and see if the problem > > persists. If it does, try an external softsynth, e.g. ZynAddSubFX (it's a > > bit hairier to setup, if you need help do ask.) > > > > Also try enabling midi-input tracing, start muse from commandline with > > parameter -m ('muse -m') > > Then all midi messages entering MusE will be printed in the console. > > Hopefully you would be able to verify if the midi entering MusE is > > correct. > > > > Regards, > > Robert > > I will detach the keyboard to see if I can reproduce the problem without > it. It seems that, if Muse is using the internal softsynth and using the > midi soundfont to produce the sound/music, that it would be bypassing my > keyboard altogether. I guess what I'm saying is I'm not sure I > understand how it would have to do with the keyboard. Could you help me > understand this? Oh, sorry, I assumed that it happened while you played with the external keyboard which doesn't seem to be the case. I took a peek at the tutorial and it seems you have added the notes using the pencil tool. Since you mention having an external keyboard that would probably be the preferred way of recording material. I don't really understand how you could end up with these double notes. I can think of three possibilities. 1. The soundfont has a bug 2. Fluidsynth has a bug 3. There are actually two notes in the pianoroll. > I will also see what I can do to try other softsynths. However, could I > ask you to be a little more specific with what that means? I am a > little of a newbie with Muse, so if you could even point me to some > online documentation on that, I would be grateful. Sure. MusE has several internal-softsynths, Fluidsynth probably being the most useful one. Besides Fluidsynth, which incidentally is available in several external versions also, there are a few other internal-softsynths, you could for instance try the Organ synth. The synths are listed in the 'Settings->Midi ports/Soft synts'. > > I didn't know about the '-m' parameter. That sounds incredibly helpful. > > Thanks a ton for your suggestions, I was at the end of my sanity trying > to figure this out on my own. No problem at all. Let us know how it goes. /Robert > > Have a good one, > > Scott -- http://spamatica.se/musicsite/ |
From: Robert J. <rj...@sp...> - 2005-10-29 20:45:20
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On Tuesday 25 Oct 2005 00:38, lin...@ya... wrote: > hello everybody, > > i am using muse for almost 3 years now and its still a wonderful program > - thanks again for the good work. > > there are still some little bugs, but all in all everything works fine > and stable great! > (i am still on 0.7.2_pre1(_agnula) and i really hope > midi-sync is fixed now ;-) Still not much happening here... Which type of sync are you most interested in? > > there is one feature that would make muse to the best live sequencer: > is it perhaps possible to change the program, that it is possible to > play a loop and than after a while playing, you start the record button > and record midi and then you press the record button again and then the > recording stops, but the playing keeps on running (and be able do that > again and again without stopping)? As CK mentioned, we've touched on similar functionalty. At the moment MusE does not add the events until you hit STOP, which to me seems like the main problem. I agree that this would be a really neat improvement, I'm keeping the mail anyway ;) > > that would be really perfekt. the only sequencer i now, that can do that > is the korg electribe. every other hardware- or software-sequencer i > know, needs to be stopped to chang between record- and play-modus... > > thanks for reading - perhaps some day ;-) ... > > greetings l.chaos Regards, Robert -- http://spamatica.se/musicsite/ |
From: <lin...@ya...> - 2005-10-30 20:31:30
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hello, >>(i am still on 0.7.2_pre1(_agnula) and i really hope >>midi-sync is fixed now ;-) >> >> > >Still not much happening here... Which type of sync are you most interested >in? > > i need to sync muse with several hardware-sequencers via midi. things like mtc or mmc would be great for future, but what i need now is just some way to get (or give) midi-clock and start signal. at the moment it doesn't matter if muse would be master or slave. with my muse 0.7.2pre1 from agnula, midi-sync is better, than before. it seems to work ok at 120bpm (master and slave - both), but every other tempo doesn't work ... >>there is one feature that would make muse to the best live sequencer: >>is it perhaps possible to change the program, that it is possible to >>play a loop and than after a while playing, you start the record button >>and record midi and then you press the record button again and then the >>recording stops, but the playing keeps on running (and be able do that >>again and again without stopping)? >> >> > >As CK mentioned, we've touched on similar functionalty. >At the moment MusE does not add the events until you hit STOP, which to me >seems like the main problem. >I agree that this would be a really neat improvement, I'm keeping the mail >anyway ;) > > i do not know anything about programming - i'm a user ;-) but perhaps it could be useful for you to look at the source-code of seq24. i didn't look at that sequencer before, because this is not build for my way of working, but now i looked at it and the way of realtime-recording is solved very good. if that would be in the "style" of muse, i would change my sequencer ;-) thanks for your reply. nice, that you are interested in my user-thoughts :-) greetings l.chaos -- _________________________________________________________________ http://www.audio4linux.de - musikmachen mit offenen quellen |
From: David M. <es...@ti...> - 2005-10-30 20:52:16
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On Sunday 30 Oct 2005 20:55, lin...@ya... wrote: > hello, > > >>(i am still on 0.7.2_pre1(_agnula) and i really hope > >>midi-sync is fixed now ;-) > > > >Still not much happening here... Which type of sync are you most > > interested in? > > i need to sync muse with several hardware-sequencers via midi. things > like mtc or mmc would be great for future, but what i need now is just > some way to get (or give) midi-clock and start signal. at the moment it > doesn't matter if muse would be master or slave. > with my muse 0.7.2pre1 from agnula, midi-sync is better, than before. it > seems to work ok at 120bpm (master and slave - both), but every other > tempo doesn't work ... > There is a long way to do this(I think). Credit must go to Geoff Beasley (hope that is right). Providing your muse will sync to jack (which mine certainly doesnt) you can get ardour to sync to jack and ardour at the same time will also send MTC. Search the Muse-user list for jack arour sync and see the messages with geoff and robert. HTH Dave > >>there is one feature that would make muse to the best live sequencer: > >>is it perhaps possible to change the program, that it is possible to > >>play a loop and than after a while playing, you start the record button > >>and record midi and then you press the record button again and then the > >>recording stops, but the playing keeps on running (and be able do that > >>again and again without stopping)? > > > >As CK mentioned, we've touched on similar functionalty. > >At the moment MusE does not add the events until you hit STOP, which to me > >seems like the main problem. > >I agree that this would be a really neat improvement, I'm keeping the mail > >anyway ;) > > i do not know anything about programming - i'm a user ;-) but perhaps it > could be useful for you to look at the source-code of seq24. i didn't > look at that sequencer before, because this is not build for my way of > working, but now i looked at it and the way of realtime-recording is > solved very good. if that would be in the "style" of muse, i would > change my sequencer ;-) > > thanks for your reply. nice, that you are interested in my user-thoughts > :-) > > greetings l.chaos |
From: <lin...@ya...> - 2005-10-30 21:53:03
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David Mulcahy wrote: >On Sunday 30 Oct 2005 20:55, lin...@ya... wrote: > > >>i need to sync muse with several hardware-sequencers via midi. things >>like mtc or mmc would be great for future, but what i need now is just >>some way to get (or give) midi-clock and start signal. at the moment it >>doesn't matter if muse would be master or slave. >>with my muse 0.7.2pre1 from agnula, midi-sync is better, than before. it >>seems to work ok at 120bpm (master and slave - both), but every other >>tempo doesn't work ... >> >> >> >There is a long way to do this(I think). Credit must go to Geoff Beasley >(hope that is right). Providing your muse will sync to jack (which mine >certainly doesnt) you can get ardour to sync to jack and ardour at the same >time will also send MTC. > >Search the Muse-user list for jack arour sync and see the messages with geoff >and robert. > >HTH Dave > > > thanks - great idea! i will try something like that... greetings l.chaos -- _________________________________________________________________ http://www.audio4linux.de - musikmachen mit offenen quellen |
From: Mathias L. <ga...@sp...> - 2005-11-03 21:38:15
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s=F6n 2005-10-30 klockan 21.55 skrev lin...@ya...: > hello, >=20 > >>(i am still on 0.7.2_pre1(_agnula) and i really hope=20 > >>midi-sync is fixed now ;-) > >> =20 > >> > > > >Still not much happening here... Which type of sync are you most inter= ested=20 > >in? > > =20 > > > i need to sync muse with several hardware-sequencers via midi. things > like mtc or mmc would be great for future, but what i need now is just > some way to get (or give) midi-clock and start signal. at the moment it > doesn't matter if muse would be master or slave. > with my muse 0.7.2pre1 from agnula, midi-sync is better, than before. i= t > seems to work ok at 120bpm (master and slave - both), but every other > tempo doesn't work ... >=20 I'm way late, but anyway... I noticed some weeks ago that in the upcoming MusE Werner has made some new buttons in the mixer where you can specify explicitly which midi devices that you want to sync to (there are lots of more options for controlling which midi ports and devices you want messages to go to, etc). I later made a little investigation and saw that he actually added code for supporting it already back in June or May. If I understood it correctly it appears to be MMC messages in this case. However, there are lots of things to do in unstable MusE before it can be used in a production environment, but lots of things have happened lately, and it's in the the upcoming MusE they happen nowadays. /Mathias <snip> |
From: Robert J. <ro...@mu...> - 2005-12-21 21:37:57
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Hi, <...> > >Still not much happening here... Which type of sync are you most > > interested in? > > i need to sync muse with several hardware-sequencers via midi. things > like mtc or mmc would be great for future, but what i need now is just > some way to get (or give) midi-clock and start signal. at the moment it > doesn't matter if muse would be master or slave. > with my muse 0.7.2pre1 from agnula, midi-sync is better, than before. it > seems to work ok at 120bpm (master and slave - both), but every other > tempo doesn't work ... Syncing with midi clock+mmc, both master and slave, _should_ work substantially better in pre4, if that is enough for you it would be great if you could test it. Regards, Robert -- http://www.muse-sequencer.org |
From: <lin...@ya...> - 2005-12-21 23:37:46
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Robert Jonsson schrieb: >Hi, > ><...> > > >>>Still not much happening here... Which type of sync are you most >>>interested in? >>> >>> >>i need to sync muse with several hardware-sequencers via midi. things >>like mtc or mmc would be great for future, but what i need now is just >>some way to get (or give) midi-clock and start signal. at the moment it >>doesn't matter if muse would be master or slave. >>with my muse 0.7.2pre1 from agnula, midi-sync is better, than before. it >>seems to work ok at 120bpm (master and slave - both), but every other >>tempo doesn't work ... >> >> > >Syncing with midi clock+mmc, both master and slave, _should_ work >substantially better in pre4, if that is enough for you it would be great if >you could test it. > >Regards, >Robert > > > shure i will do, but i do not know, when i will find the time. i am using agnula and it could take some time, until they update. but perhaps i will install "by hand" now, but i never did that before (and next days i have too much work anyway)... i report when i got it ;-) something else: i started to write some *.idf. they are all not really finished; programs are ready but not too much tested and controllers are somethimes wrong: - waldorf Q (with controllers) - yamaha 01v (with controllers) - yamaha motif (wrong/no controllers) - yamaha clavinova pf p100 (wrong/no controllers) those, who use one of those instruments could test and feedback, they are here: http://audiowerkstatt.de/seiten/linux/muse/ when i find the time, i will write *.idf for: - roland R-8 - korg electribe SX thanks and greetings l.chaos -- _________________________________________________________________ http://www.audio4linux.de - musikmachen mit offenen quellen |
From: Geoff B. <son...@bi...> - 2005-12-22 02:13:14
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On Wednesday 21 December 2005 21:37, Robert Jonsson wrote: > substantially better in pre4, if that is enough for you it would be great > if you could test it. G'day Robert, I'm starting work on my second solo album( ho-hum!) after Xmas. I can certainly test then for you. Is MTC any better do you think ? I'll check anyway when i get back in here next week. You know, you could always ssh into my rig sometime for testing .... especially for that jack network project you and Torben are working on... looks VERY exciting that whole idea. If that works, who wants to bother with 24/25/30 fps when you can have the card clockrate as your timebase ... something i would certainly be happy to do. Let's talk 'bout that if you would like. I can list the gear etc. I hope we might catch up at LAC2006 ;), anyway have a mighty Xmas and a very "aMuseing" New year to you all :D best, g. |
From: Robert J. <rj...@sp...> - 2005-12-26 20:53:34
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On Thursday 22 December 2005 14.12, Geoff Beasley wrote: > On Wednesday 21 December 2005 21:37, Robert Jonsson wrote: > > substantially better in pre4, if that is enough for you it would be great > > if you could test it. > > G'day Robert, > > I'm starting work on my second solo album( ho-hum!) after Xmas. :) > I can > certainly test then for you. Is MTC any better do you think ? Sorry for checking in late, and sorry for bringing bad news. MTC doesn't work at all. I tried to get my head around it several times but to no avail. I think Werner has mentioned MTC while talking about 1.0 so I think the current plan is to take another stab at it there. > I'll check > anyway when i get back in here next week. > > You know, you could always ssh into my rig sometime for testing .... > especially for that jack network project you and Torben are working on... > looks VERY exciting that whole idea. If that works, who wants to bother > with 24/25/30 fps when you can have the card clockrate as your timebase ... > something i would certainly be happy to do. Let's talk 'bout that if you > would like. I can list the gear etc. Yes, this is interesting stuff, though to be fair it is 99% Torbens project. I know he has been working a lot on it though, quite possibly it will be ready for prime time soon. > > I hope we might catch up at LAC2006 ;), Yes, that would be nice :) I was there last year and had a great time, I'd love to go there again! > > anyway have a mighty Xmas and a very "aMuseing" New year to you all :D AAAhh, stop you're killing me ;) /Robert > > best, > g. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Lmuse-user mailing list > Lmu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmuse-user -- http://spamatica.se/musicsite/ |