From: Adrian C. <an...@sy...> - 2011-04-30 06:53:06
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Sent this only to Jarod by mistake. Here it is again. > Not sure. I just tried one of my serial receivers with a 2.6.38.4 > Fedora kernel, and it works just fine. I can not expect you or anyone else to fix the bug if it "works for you". Wouldn't be the first time Lirc broke on Arch Linux either. Jarod, what do you think will I have any chance of success with this USB receiver and Lirc: http://www.amazon.com/Center-Remote-Control-Infrared-Receiver/dp/B001HBOJRQ/ Thanks. |
From: Adrian C. <an...@sy...> - 2011-05-01 04:59:17
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Adrian C. wrote: > Jarod, what do you think will I have any chance of success with this USB > receiver and Lirc: > http://www.amazon.com/Center-Remote-Control-Infrared-Receiver/dp/B001HBOJRQ/ I ask because I have to wait up to four weeks for the shipment. Only to find Lirc does not work, again. Then another four weeks... |
From: Bob S. <rm...@gm...> - 2011-05-01 20:50:14
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On 04/30/2011 09:59 PM, Adrian C. wrote: > Jarod, what do you think will I have any chance of success with this > USB receiver and Lirc: > <http://www.amazon.com/Center-Remote-Control-Infrared-Receiver/dp/B001HBOJRQ> > > I ask because I have to wait up to four weeks for the shipment. Only > to find Lirc does not work, again. Then another four weeks... Pardon me for butting in. This is one of two remotes that I bought about a year or two ago when I was trying to get my MythDora system running. I found the remote's key layout very awkward, with the DVR controls on the number pad and a key to switch the functions of the number keys mistakenly labeled "Mumlock". It has a USB IR receiver dongle that works OK, and when you plug it in, the remote is somehow recognized by the OS as a keyboard and mouse, which apparently is standard for MCE remotes. Out of the box, this remote does not work with MythDora. It is still a mystery to me how MCE remotes work with lirc. I would like to know, because the other remote I bought at the same time <http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Control-Infrared-Receiver-Ultimate/dp/B00224ZDFY/ref=pd_sim_misc_2> has a much more logical key layout, but not all the keys work in MythDora. If it is possible, I would like to learn how to change the key assignments. Bob Shanteau |
From: Adrian C. <an...@sy...> - 2011-05-01 21:22:05
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On Sun, 1 May 2011, Bob Shanteau wrote: > Out of the box, this remote does not work with MythDora. > > It is still a mystery to me how MCE remotes work with lirc > > I would like to learn how to change the key assignments Hello, thanks for the information. Personally I'm only interested in the receiver. I would certainly hope any remote control can be configured to work with it, otherwise it's no good. (It took me a long time to find a good remote that has all the keys I need in VDR, and more importantly to have them properly labeled so other tenants don't have to guess what's what. Btw it's One4All Slimline 4, model URC-3450, if someone is looking for a good one.) |
From: Bob S. <rm...@gm...> - 2011-05-01 21:50:18
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On 05/01/2011 02:22 PM, Adrian C. wrote: > I'm only interested in the receiver. I would certainly hope any remote > control can be configured to work with it, otherwise it's no good. I was thinking the same thing, so I was disappointed to find that for both the USB MCE remotes I bought, the receiver only works with the remote it came with. Bob Shanteau |
From: Jarod W. <ja...@wi...> - 2011-05-03 14:43:07
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On Apr 30, 2011, at 2:53 AM, Adrian C. wrote: > Sent this only to Jarod by mistake. Here it is again. > > >> Not sure. I just tried one of my serial receivers with a 2.6.38.4 >> Fedora kernel, and it works just fine. > > I can not expect you or anyone else to fix the bug if it "works for > you". Wouldn't be the first time Lirc broke on Arch Linux either. Well, unless they've done something really crazy, I don't know how their lirc_serial would be any different from Fedora's, which is just bog-standard upstream staging tree lirc_serial (which has seen very little change since it went into staging in 2.6.36, iirc). > Jarod, what do you think will I have any chance of success with this USB > receiver and Lirc: > http://www.amazon.com/Center-Remote-Control-Infrared-Receiver/dp/B001HBOJRQ/ Looks like that's going to be a dongle that shows up as a plain old HID device, decoding done in the receiver, only works with the stock remote's signals. What you really want is a receiver that is driven by the mceusb driver, almost all of which have at least one transmit port on the rear of the receiver. Like this: http://www.amazon.com/Noah-Company-MediaGate-GP-IR02BK-Ultimate/dp/B000W5GK5C -- Jarod Wilson ja...@wi... |
From: Bob S. <rm...@gm...> - 2011-05-03 18:27:09
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On 05/03/2011 07:43 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: > On Apr 30, 2011, at 2:53 AM, Adrian C. wrote: >> Jarod, what do you think will I have any chance of success with this USB receiver and Lirc: >> <http://www.amazon.com/Center-Remote-Control-Infrared-Receiver/dp/B001HBOJRQ> I bought one of these MCE remote/USB receivers a couple of years ago but found that it is recognized by the OS as a keyboard and mouse. Ever since, I have wondered whether it could be used with lirc. This text appears at the end of dmesg when I plug in the dongle: [154789.166170] usb 2-5: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 9 [154789.382611] usb 2-5: string descriptor 0 malformed (err = -61), defaulting to 0x0409 [154789.466614] usb 2-5: New USB device found, idVendor=06b4, idProduct=1c70 [154789.466625] usb 2-5: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=2, SerialNumber=2 [154789.611445] input: HID 06b4:1c70 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/usb2/2-5/2-5:1.0/input/input10 [154789.612443] generic-usb 0003:06B4:1C70.0009: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 06b4:1c70] on usb-0000:00:02.0-5/input0 > Looks like that's going to be a dongle that shows up as a plain old HID device, decoding done in the receiver, only works with the stock remote's signals. Yes, that appears to be what the dmesg output is saying, since the USB receiver shows up as an HID device. So now I understand that this is not an lirc compatible device. But does that mean it is useless for controlling mythTV? I don't have a Windows MCE computer, but apparently each of the keys does something in MCE. As it is, though, some of the keys do not do anything in mythTV. Perhaps someone on this list can answer this question: Is there a keytable associated with this type of remote/USB receiver that I can use to remap the keys to something useful in mythTV? > What you really want is a receiver that is driven by the mceusb driver, almost all of which have at least one transmit port on the rear of the receiver. Like this: > > <http://www.amazon.com/Noah-Company-MediaGate-GP-IR02BK-Ultimate/dp/B000W5GK5C> That recevier has a USB port and what looks like a IR blaster cable. Is that what you mean by a "transmit port"? So are you saying that the only MCE remote/USB receivers that will work with lirc are ones that come with an IR blaster cable? Bob Shanteau |
From: Jarod W. <ja...@wi...> - 2011-05-03 19:33:44
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On May 3, 2011, at 2:27 PM, Bob Shanteau wrote: > On 05/03/2011 07:43 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: >> On Apr 30, 2011, at 2:53 AM, Adrian C. wrote: >>> Jarod, what do you think will I have any chance of success with this USB receiver and Lirc: >>> <http://www.amazon.com/Center-Remote-Control-Infrared-Receiver/dp/B001HBOJRQ> > > I bought one of these MCE remote/USB receivers a couple of years ago but > found that it is recognized by the OS as a keyboard and mouse. Ever > since, I have wondered whether it could be used with lirc. > > This text appears at the end of dmesg when I plug in the dongle: > > [154789.166170] usb 2-5: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and > address 9 > [154789.382611] usb 2-5: string descriptor 0 malformed (err = -61), > defaulting to 0x0409 > [154789.466614] usb 2-5: New USB device found, idVendor=06b4, idProduct=1c70 > [154789.466625] usb 2-5: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=2, > SerialNumber=2 > [154789.611445] input: HID 06b4:1c70 as > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/usb2/2-5/2-5:1.0/input/input10 > [154789.612443] generic-usb 0003:06B4:1C70.0009: input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 06b4:1c70] on usb-0000:00:02.0-5/input0 > >> Looks like that's going to be a dongle that shows up as a plain old HID device, decoding done in the receiver, only works with the stock remote's signals. > > Yes, that appears to be what the dmesg output is saying, since the USB > receiver shows up as an HID device. So now I understand that this is not > an lirc compatible device. > > But does that mean it is useless for controlling mythTV? I don't have a > Windows MCE computer, but apparently each of the keys does something in > MCE. As it is, though, some of the keys do not do anything in mythTV. > Perhaps someone on this list can answer this question: Is there a > keytable associated with this type of remote/USB receiver that I can use > to remap the keys to something useful in mythTV? This should be able to turn it into something more useful: http://code.google.com/p/eventlircd/ >> What you really want is a receiver that is driven by the mceusb driver, almost all of which have at least one transmit port on the rear of the receiver. Like this: >> >> <http://www.amazon.com/Noah-Company-MediaGate-GP-IR02BK-Ultimate/dp/B000W5GK5C> > > That recevier has a USB port and what looks like a IR blaster cable. Is > that what you mean by a "transmit port"? Yes. > So are you saying that the only > MCE remote/USB receivers that will work with lirc are ones that come > with an IR blaster cable? Generally, anything marketed as a Windows Media Center Remote that comes with a receiver that doesn't have a transmit port (and blaster cable) isn't supported by the mceusb driver, and is most likely a generic HID device, which does onboard decode, rather than passing along raw IR. There are at least two mceusb-supported devices that do NOT have transmit though, so its not a 100% guarantee that lack of tx port means its not mceusb-driven. I'm not aware of an MCE remote bundle that has a blaster cable that *isn't* driven by mceusb though, so if its present, its a very good sign. -- Jarod Wilson ja...@wi... |
From: Steffen B. <ste...@go...> - 2011-05-03 19:58:02
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On Tue, 3 May 2011 15:09:37 -0400 Jarod Wilson <ja...@wi...> wrote: > On May 3, 2011, at 2:27 PM, Bob Shanteau wrote: > > > On 05/03/2011 07:43 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: > >> On Apr 30, 2011, at 2:53 AM, Adrian C. wrote: > >>> Jarod, what do you think will I have any chance of success with > >>> this USB receiver and Lirc: > >>> <http://www.amazon.com/Center-Remote-Control-Infrared-Receiver/dp/B001HBOJRQ> > > > > I bought one of these MCE remote/USB receivers a couple of years > > ago but found that it is recognized by the OS as a keyboard and > > mouse. Ever since, I have wondered whether it could be used with > > lirc. > > > > This text appears at the end of dmesg when I plug in the dongle: > > > > [154789.166170] usb 2-5: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd > > and address 9 > > [154789.382611] usb 2-5: string descriptor 0 malformed (err = -61), > > defaulting to 0x0409 > > [154789.466614] usb 2-5: New USB device found, idVendor=06b4, > > idProduct=1c70 [154789.466625] usb 2-5: New USB device strings: > > Mfr=2, Product=2, SerialNumber=2 > > [154789.611445] input: HID 06b4:1c70 as > > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/usb2/2-5/2-5:1.0/input/input10 > > [154789.612443] generic-usb 0003:06B4:1C70.0009: input,hidraw2: USB > > HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 06b4:1c70] on usb-0000:00:02.0-5/input0 > > > >> Looks like that's going to be a dongle that shows up as a plain > >> old HID device, decoding done in the receiver, only works with the > >> stock remote's signals. > > > > Yes, that appears to be what the dmesg output is saying, since the > > USB receiver shows up as an HID device. So now I understand that > > this is not an lirc compatible device. > > > > But does that mean it is useless for controlling mythTV? I don't > > have a Windows MCE computer, but apparently each of the keys does > > something in MCE. As it is, though, some of the keys do not do > > anything in mythTV. Perhaps someone on this list can answer this > > question: Is there a keytable associated with this type of > > remote/USB receiver that I can use to remap the keys to something > > useful in mythTV? > > This should be able to turn it into something more useful: > > http://code.google.com/p/eventlircd/ > ACK - even if the remote is something acting as HID device, this one makes it a usefull remote. With the evmaps you can make the rmeote send whatever you need. (did i say allreday i like eventlircd ? :D) |
From: Adrian C. <an...@sy...> - 2011-05-03 20:48:22
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On Tue, 3 May 2011, Jarod Wilson wrote: > What you really want is a receiver that is driven by the mceusb > driver, almost all of which have at least one transmit port on the > rear of the receiver. Like this: > > http://www.amazon.com/Noah-Company-MediaGate-GP-IR02BK-Ultimate/dp/B000W5GK5C Thanks very much for this information. |
From: Jarod W. <ja...@wi...> - 2011-05-03 21:04:41
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On May 3, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Adrian C. wrote: > On Tue, 3 May 2011, Jarod Wilson wrote: > >> What you really want is a receiver that is driven by the mceusb >> driver, almost all of which have at least one transmit port on the >> rear of the receiver. Like this: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Noah-Company-MediaGate-GP-IR02BK-Ultimate/dp/B000W5GK5C > > Thanks very much for this information. No problem! Also... If you've verified that Fedora doesn't work with your serial receiver as well, and want to get rid of that hardware, I'd be happy to have you send it my direction, and I can try to figure out why its not behaving anymore (and then hopefully fix it). -- Jarod Wilson ja...@wi... |
From: Adrian C. <an...@sy...> - 2011-05-10 21:23:23
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On Tue, 3 May 2011, Jarod Wilson wrote: > Also... If you've verified that Fedora doesn't work with your serial > receiver as well, and want to get rid of that hardware, I'd be happy > to have you send it my direction, and I can try to figure out why its > not behaving anymore (and then hopefully fix it). Note sure I want to part with it. I'm thinking about keeping the old VDR in a closet as backup if the primary burns (had lots of lightning problems over the years), and any USB replacement I get working now won't work on that old system. I didn't made the receiver, a friend did it for me, but I believe it is identical to this schematic http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6597/lirc2so4ws2.jpg or was it this, I forget it was so long ago http://lnx.manoweb.com/lirc/?partType=section&partName=circuit -- Adrian C. (anrxc) | anrxc..sysphere.org | PGP ID: D20A0618 PGP FP: 02A5 628A D8EE 2A93 996E 929F D5CB 31B7 D20A 0618 |