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From: Georgi C. <g.c...@iu...> - 2006-06-22 09:38:45
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Hello, I recently installed Licq, and have browsed through the various options, but some questions remain: 1) Is it possible to send messages with Enter and insert a newline with Ctrl-enter, which is the opposite of the default. 2) Is there a way to delete groups? I have no use for "Other Users", "Buddies", and "Top Level". 3) Is there a way to reset my contact list on the server, so that all contacts will always show by whatever alias they have selected, instead of things I may have set with other ICQ clients? Thanks! Georgi |
From: <ar...@un...> - 2006-06-08 11:00:26
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Hello, I'm using OpenBSD 3.9, licq 1.3.2 and icqnd 0.1.9.4 While compiling them had no errors, only some warning. When I try to start licq with icqnd "licq -p icqnd" I recieve error that there is no plugin like icqnd. Sorry if this was already discussed. I didn't find it in the mailing lists. Artyom |
From: Dexter F. <Dex...@gm...> - 2006-06-06 02:45:03
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Topic says it all -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a- C+++(++++) UL+>++++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K- w--(---) !O M+ V- PS++(+) PE(-) Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@ b++(+++) DI+++ D G++ e* h>++ r%>* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.stop1984.com http://www.againsttcpa.com |
From: Erik J. <li...@ml...> - 2006-06-06 02:29:08
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> I haven't seen any secure logins with ICQ unless AOL just added it to > the protocol. AIM and ICQ have insecure logins... it's been that way > from the 1st day of each protocol and looks like it always will be. It seems like it's [1]possible to use md5 to encrypt the password. Maybe something to consider for the newapi? [1] - http://iserverd.khstu.ru/oscar/login.html // Erik -- This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security. Erik Johansson http://ejohansson.se |
From: Dexter F. <Dex...@gm...> - 2006-06-06 01:46:23
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Setting "require auth" in Security/Password options and clicking "update" makes the windows stay forever saying "setting..." -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a- C+++(++++) UL+>++++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K- w--(---) !O M+ V- PS++(+) PE(-) Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@ b++(+++) DI+++ D G++ e* h>++ r%>* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.stop1984.com http://www.againsttcpa.com |
From: Dexter F. <Dex...@gm...> - 2006-06-06 01:38:55
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1.: "require authorization" doesn't work. not good. 2.: new contact writes in another font than what I've confed. No idea why. Is licq 1.3.3 in sight anyway? Perhaps even with a new history? Dex -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a- C+++(++++) UL+>++++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K- w--(---) !O M+ V- PS++(+) PE(-) Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@ b++(+++) DI+++ D G++ e* h>++ r%>* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.stop1984.com http://www.againsttcpa.com |
From: Dexter F. <Dex...@gm...> - 2006-05-04 11:20:43
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Am Donnerstag, 4. Mai 2006 12:04 schrieb Jon Keating: > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:31:44PM +0200, Dexter Filmore wrote: > > in 1.3.2. I'm not able to change my user info. Pressing apply nothing > > happens for ages. No effect. > > The protocol had a slight change, it is fixed in the SVN version. > > Jon Well, I've been trying to compile svn for some time now, but I get all sorts of libiconv errors running make. IIRC you develop on Slackware, what libiconv and from where do you use? Dex -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a- C+++(++++) UL+>++++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K- w--(---) !O M+ V- PS++(+) PE(-) Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@ b++(+++) DI+++ D G++ e* h>++ r%>* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.stop1984.com http://www.againsttcpa.com |
From: Jon K. <jo...@li...> - 2006-05-04 10:04:35
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On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:31:44PM +0200, Dexter Filmore wrote: > in 1.3.2. I'm not able to change my user info. Pressing apply nothing hap= pens=20 > for ages. No effect. The protocol had a slight change, it is fixed in the SVN version. Jon --=20 ________________________________________________________ Jon Keating ICQ: 16325723 jo...@li... MSN: kea...@ho... http://www.licq.org GPG: 2290A71F http://www.thejon.org HOME: Minamiashigara, Japan |
From: Dexter F. <Dex...@gm...> - 2006-05-03 18:32:03
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in 1.3.2. I'm not able to change my user info. Pressing apply nothing happens for ages. No effect. -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a- C+++(++++) UL+>++++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K- w--(---) !O M+ V- PS++(+) PE(-) Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@ b++(+++) DI+++ D G++ e* h>++ r%>* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.stop1984.com http://www.againsttcpa.com |
From: Stefan H. <ma...@tu...> - 2006-05-03 15:33:44
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Hello, Am Montag, 24. April 2006 10:59 schrieb Josef Angermeier: > over the last years, i used kicq, micq and mirabilis icq. I got the messa= ge > history saved in the corresponding data files. Now i try to archive my > private data for the next centuries, so i would like to convert those > message history files from the specific data files to something more > general, e.g. a pure readable text file or xml file. > > Can i use the micq2licq or the kicq2micq converters somehow for this > purpose ? Can i convert micq and kicq message history to licq message > history and export that one to xml or simple text files ? I know the problem and, together with some friends, I started to develop a= =20 tool to store histories from different icq messengers. You might want to check out http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/impuls.=20 Development just started, but during the next week there will be a first=20 release available. If you'd like to get a pre-version, drop me a mail and you will get a CVS=20 snapshoot. Greetings, Stefan =2D-=20 ____ / \ / ^ ^ \ Stefan Haun I \/ I ma...@tu... II II http://www.tuxathome.de II II I /\/\ I |
From: Jon K. <jo...@li...> - 2006-04-27 00:17:25
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On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 08:57:14PM -0300, Jose Tavares wrote: > hmm.. > I sniffed my own home network and dsniff decrypted my Licq pass.. That > was so direct that I thought there was no encryption at all.. :) Then dsniff is one of those tools then. > I was always comparing ICQ protocol with MSN protocol and Licq with > aMSN .. I think I wasn't clear in my first email.. Well, that's comparing apples and oranges. You can compare protocols, but you can't compare the clients of different protocols. > aMSN offers 2 ways to connect. With SSL and without SSL. Licq only offers SSL with the MSN protocol. > As I captured my Licq pass so easily with dsniff and due to a friend of > mine had told me that ICQ "could" login securely, I thought there was 2 > ways to authenticate with ICQ too.. And I thought Licq wasn't using > crypto as dsniff picked my pass.. :) I haven't seen any secure logins with ICQ unless AOL just added it to the protocol. AIM and ICQ have insecure logins... it's been that way =66rom the 1st day of each protocol and looks like it always will be. The OTR and GPG plugins that will be made can make some security. Currently there is GPG in Licq, but not very well documented. Jon --=20 ________________________________________________________ Jon Keating ICQ: 16325723 jo...@li... MSN: kea...@ho... http://www.licq.org GPG: 2290A71F http://www.thejon.org HOME: Minamiashigara, Japan |
From: Jose T. <jaa...@gm...> - 2006-04-26 23:57:23
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On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 16:45 +0900, Jon Keating wrote: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 03:38:57AM -0300, Jose Tavares wrote: > > Is there a way to make Licq connect without sending the password in > > plain text? > > Well, what you are asking about is the protocol... Licq supports > AIM/ICQ and MSN so I'm gonna assume you are asking about ICQ. The ICQ > protocol does not send passwords in plain text for... many years now. > It is however trivial to decrypt the password if you sniff the packets. > In fact, I bet you can google for it and find such software very > quickly. > > ICQ as a protocol doesn't support truly safe password encryption. It's > a major flaw in the protocol, which all clients must obey (otherwise we > can't login). hmm.. I sniffed my own home network and dsniff decrypted my Licq pass.. That was so direct that I thought there was no encryption at all.. :) > > It's a contradiction Licq offering a secure conversation channel and > > sending plain password.. If someone get my pass, he/she will be able to > > connect to anyone on my list using a secure connection.. :) He/she will > > not see my conversation, but will be able to make the other party talk > > about confidencial topics.. > > Well, that's what GPG or the forthcoming OTR plugin is for. > > > Comparing to msn, I loaded amsn in this open wifi net and the login was > > secure but the conversation was plain.. > > Well, let's see what you are talking about ICQ != MSN. If you are > talking about the MSN protocol plugin of Licq, then yes, your password > is sent over an SSL connection to the MSN server. That is part of the > protocol and once again, all MSN clients must obey this. > > > Question: Do you have plans to support a secure login in icq? I remember > > that years ago I was on this list and there were people asking this > > question that time ... > > Please ask AOL that question, we can't control the ICQ servers or ICQ > protocol. > > Jon I was always comparing ICQ protocol with MSN protocol and Licq with aMSN .. I think I wasn't clear in my first email.. aMSN offers 2 ways to connect. With SSL and without SSL. As I captured my Licq pass so easily with dsniff and due to a friend of mine had told me that ICQ "could" login securely, I thought there was 2 ways to authenticate with ICQ too.. And I thought Licq wasn't using crypto as dsniff picked my pass.. :) Now I was clear, didn't I?! :) [] JA Tavares |
From: Jon K. <jo...@li...> - 2006-04-25 07:45:20
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On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 03:38:57AM -0300, Jose Tavares wrote: > Is there a way to make Licq connect without sending the password in > plain text? Well, what you are asking about is the protocol... Licq supports AIM/ICQ and MSN so I'm gonna assume you are asking about ICQ. The ICQ protocol does not send passwords in plain text for... many years now. It is however trivial to decrypt the password if you sniff the packets. In fact, I bet you can google for it and find such software very quickly. ICQ as a protocol doesn't support truly safe password encryption. It's a major flaw in the protocol, which all clients must obey (otherwise we can't login). > It's a contradiction Licq offering a secure conversation channel and > sending plain password.. If someone get my pass, he/she will be able to > connect to anyone on my list using a secure connection.. :) He/she will > not see my conversation, but will be able to make the other party talk > about confidencial topics.. Well, that's what GPG or the forthcoming OTR plugin is for. > Comparing to msn, I loaded amsn in this open wifi net and the login was > secure but the conversation was plain.. Well, let's see what you are talking about ICQ !=3D MSN. If you are talking about the MSN protocol plugin of Licq, then yes, your password is sent over an SSL connection to the MSN server. That is part of the protocol and once again, all MSN clients must obey this. > Question: Do you have plans to support a secure login in icq? I remember > that years ago I was on this list and there were people asking this > question that time ... Please ask AOL that question, we can't control the ICQ servers or ICQ protocol. Jon --=20 ________________________________________________________ Jon Keating ICQ: 16325723 jo...@li... MSN: kea...@ho... http://www.licq.org GPG: 2290A71F http://www.thejon.org HOME: Minamiashigara, Japan |
From: Jose T. <jaa...@gm...> - 2006-04-25 06:39:11
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Is there a way to make Licq connect without sending the password in plain text? A few days ago I was using an open wifi network and I was unable to load my licq because people were sniffing the net.. It's a contradiction Licq offering a secure conversation channel and sending plain password.. If someone get my pass, he/she will be able to connect to anyone on my list using a secure connection.. :) He/she will not see my conversation, but will be able to make the other party talk about confidencial topics.. Comparing to msn, I loaded amsn in this open wifi net and the login was secure but the conversation was plain.. Question: Do you have plans to support a secure login in icq? I remember that years ago I was on this list and there were people asking this question that time ... [] JA Tavares |
From: Josef A. <jos...@we...> - 2006-04-24 09:00:11
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Hello, over the last years, i used kicq, micq and mirabilis icq. I got the message history saved in the corresponding data files. Now i try to archive my private data for the next centuries, so i would like to convert those message history files from the specific data files to something more general, e.g. a pure readable text file or xml file. Can i use the micq2licq or the kicq2micq converters somehow for this purpose ? Can i convert micq and kicq message history to licq message history and export that one to xml or simple text files ? thanks in advance Josef PS: please send CC to my Email on reply, best regards! _______________________________________________________________ SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! http://f.web.de/?mc=021192 |
From: Jose T. <ja...@te...> - 2006-04-12 00:21:21
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On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 09:02 +0900, Jon Keating wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 04:38:48PM -0300, Jose Tavares wrote: > > Hi all.. > > I've got a real old Licq DB and returning to using Licq I'd like to > > maintain it.. > > > > I have something like this: > > > > $ cat .licqjat/licq.conf |head > > > > [licq] > > Version = 42230 > > Hmm.. something isn't right with that. The version is currently 1.3.2 so > in the file it is shown as 1032. You are running Licq version 422.3.0 it > looks like. Maybe I had changed that a few years ago to fool other people.. :) > > How can I convert my DB in an easy way?? > > > > The fact that I'm not using Licq for months is the problem of converting > > the DB.. (manually creating scripts will take time..) > > There is an auto upgrade feature. It does all the work behind the scenes > when it detects an older version. The only thing I wonder about is why > your licq version says 42230. It may not automatically upgrade because > the version is already high. If you manually change it to 1027 then it > may work. > > But either way, you should make a backup of your licq directory before > doing anything. I've already converted one of my DBs manually and it's working ok.. I did a renaming on history files, picked my old users.conf and the users info I'm downloading as soon as they are appearing online.. I haven't used icq for a year or more and the reason was that my old DB needed conversion.. It was easier than I thought because I gived up trying to convert user info .. Besides of a lot of people leaving icq for msn, msn way of chatting is blergh.. No offline messaging, people get mad at you if you are online and not answer, etc .. And after all just stupid people with pre-installed windows and pre-installed msn came to my contact list there.. It's great to return to icq and see old contacts .. Jon, you were on my list! .. Where are you now..?! :) [] JA Tavares |
From: Jon K. <jo...@li...> - 2006-04-12 00:05:28
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On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 04:27:29PM +0300, Sinisa Milivojevic wrote: > I embarked on these projects because I don't like Qt nor do I like Gtk > 2.*. >=20 > I have made many changes to the above two plugins, based on beloved > Gtk 1.2.*, so that both of them now work with Licq 1.3.*. Hmm, there was was a jons-gtk2-gui or something like that that was using Gtk 2.* But anyways, if they are working with the current Licq, I'll put them back on the website (I think I removed jons-gtk-gui, or was planning to). > I would like to make both available for download and to get bug > reports. There would be many bug reports, although both plugins are > working fine for me. >=20 > So, where do you suggest that I upload new source tarballs ?? Hmm, perhaps starting a new project on SF would be good... or I can add you to the project admin of jons-gtk-gui. the other gtk gui, I'm not sure... another SF project? Jon PS: The Licq API will be changing in the future taht will require all plugins to be rewritten to work with the improved API. --=20 ________________________________________________________ Jon Keating ICQ: 16325723 jo...@li... MSN: kea...@ho... http://www.licq.org GPG: 2290A71F http://www.thejon.org HOME: Minamiashigara, Japan |
From: Jon K. <jo...@li...> - 2006-04-12 00:02:26
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On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 04:38:48PM -0300, Jose Tavares wrote: > Hi all.. > I've got a real old Licq DB and returning to using Licq I'd like to > maintain it.. >=20 > I have something like this: >=20 > $ cat .licqjat/licq.conf |head >=20 > [licq] > Version =3D 42230 Hmm.. something isn't right with that. The version is currently 1.3.2 so in the file it is shown as 1032. You are running Licq version 422.3.0 it looks like. > How can I convert my DB in an easy way?? >=20 > The fact that I'm not using Licq for months is the problem of converting > the DB.. (manually creating scripts will take time..) There is an auto upgrade feature. It does all the work behind the scenes when it detects an older version. The only thing I wonder about is why your licq version says 42230. It may not automatically upgrade because the version is already high. If you manually change it to 1027 then it may work. But either way, you should make a backup of your licq directory before doing anything. Jon --=20 ________________________________________________________ Jon Keating ICQ: 16325723 jo...@li... MSN: kea...@ho... http://www.licq.org GPG: 2290A71F http://www.thejon.org HOME: Minamiashigara, Japan |
From: Jon K. <jo...@li...> - 2006-04-11 23:59:18
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On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 06:36:08PM +0100, Psiko wrote: > dont know if i'm correct to post this question here.... It's ok here, but you just need to subscribe to the list otherwise the message will be delayed (1 month in your case...) > i shot a screen of the style its on the attach. can anyone explain to me= =20 > what i done wrong and what i have to install that the style is correct? You can change the skin and icons in the Skin Browser which is in the main menu. Jon --=20 ________________________________________________________ Jon Keating ICQ: 16325723 jo...@li... MSN: kea...@ho... http://www.licq.org GPG: 2290A71F http://www.thejon.org HOME: Minamiashigara, Japan |
From: Sinisa M. <si...@my...> - 2006-04-11 13:25:00
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Hi! I embarked on these projects because I don't like Qt nor do I like Gtk 2.*. I have made many changes to the above two plugins, based on beloved Gtk 1.2.*, so that both of them now work with Licq 1.3.*. I would like to make both available for download and to get bug reports. There would be many bug reports, although both plugins are working fine for me. So, where do you suggest that I upload new source tarballs ?? -- Sincerely, -- Mr. Sinisa Milivojevic <si...@my...> Senior Support Manager and Developer Larnaca, Republic of Cyprus __ ___ ___ ____ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ / / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ <___/ www.mysql.com |
From: Arne S. <arn...@gm...> - 2006-04-07 08:47:46
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Has anyone noticed that sometimes a whole bunch of contacts go offline? Thi= s=20 seems to happen with 2003b users. Is there some sensible reason for this? C= an=20 it be fixed? Arne =2D-=20 Dipl.-Inform. Arne Schmitz Phone +49 (0)241 80-21817 Computer Graphics Group Fax +49 (0)241 80-22899 RWTH Aachen University http://www.rwth-graphics.de Ahornstrasse 55, 52074 Aachen, Germany |
From: Nerijus B. <ne...@us...> - 2006-04-03 18:10:19
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:18:02 +0200 Nerijus Baliunas <ne...@us...urce= forge.net> wrote: > > > When I connect to ICQ with other programs, I see less contacts than > > > in licq. I assume that not all contacts are saved on the server. Ho= w can > > > I force saving all contacts to the server (synchronize)? > >=20 > > In the options did you enable the server side contact list? It will > > fetch all of your contacts from the server. >=20 > I enabled this option, but I still see only 14 contacts in http://www.i= cq.com/icq2go/ > out of 35 in licq. How can I force saving all contacts to the server? I updated to licq svn version and it seems now all my contacts are saved = on server. Thanks! The only problem is that when I edit server group in licq, sometimes I ge= t mesage: Error encoding () to UCS-2BE from (unsupported conversion) Regards, Nerijus |
From: Enrico 'n. W. <we...@me...> - 2006-03-24 00:10:13
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Hi folks, here's a little article I wrote about an approach for encapsulating platform dependent stdc-lib fixes (ie. some platforms have broken string handling, etc) behind pkg-config. It is mostly directed on autoconf (It is the one I have most of my daily trouble with), but of course the approach works with other buildsystems, even plain make, too. The permanent URL of the article: * http://www.metux.de/articles/coding/trimming-down-autoconf-with-pkg-config I'm also currently working on concrete wrapper packages: * http://wiki.metux.de/public/OSS_QM_Taskforce/projects/stdc-pkgconfig Comments and suggestions please to the Maillist: oss...@me... Thanks. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt == metux IT service phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: in...@me... cellphone: +49 174 7066481 --------------------------------------------------------------------- |
From: Jose T. <ja...@te...> - 2006-03-17 19:39:02
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Hi all.. I've got a real old Licq DB and returning to using Licq I'd like to maintain it.. I have something like this: $ cat .licqjat/licq.conf |head [licq] Version = 42230 [plugins] NumPlugins = 1 Plugin1 = qt-gui Plugin2 = autoreply [network] $ and I saw new Licq has support for other IMs and multiple users.. I saw other differences in the files used by contacts info (different name) and users.conf seems to have links to these files now .. How can I convert my DB in an easy way?? The fact that I'm not using Licq for months is the problem of converting the DB.. (manually creating scripts will take time..) [] JA Tavares |
From: Psiko <st...@gm...> - 2006-03-12 17:34:16
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hi @ all. dont know if i'm correct to post this question here.... if just installed debian weekly testing a few minutes ago...reason for this was newest licq version .... licq is now installed correct via apt-get. but the look is still the same. what i mean : the frames...are still the oldschool and not looking like on the licq website under screenshots. i shot a screen of the style its on the attach. can anyone explain to me what i done wrong and what i have to install that the style is correct? thankx and greetz jan |