From: El R. <rm...@dc...> - 2002-04-30 20:18:40
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On Tuesday 30 April 2002 09:28 pm, you wrote: > I use Joe for almost all my work. But, in general it is said > that vi and emacs are excellent editors. But I have feeling > that Joe can match all these editors or may be better than > that. Of course, joe IS the best editor in the planet :-) In my university, often appears 'text-editor wars' in the local newsgroups. After a while, I am pretty sure that i can do at least, the same text editing tasks, and easier, than experimented users of vi or emacs. As a personal opinion, emacs sucksbecause its over featuring (nobody can call 'shortcut' to a sequence of 4 characters, as is common in emacs. On the another hand, I hate vi modes, because i am continuously typing and executing commands. Many people arguments that joe is not such a powerful edutor; in VI or emacs you can even run games, but what the hell, i want a TEXT EDITOR to EDIT TEXT, not to solve world's problems. Greetings: Rho -- EMACS = Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping |
From: H.S.Rai <hsr...@ii...> - 2002-07-12 13:46:25
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How can we write special character like alpha, beta, gamma etc in JOE. I mean something equivalent to "ctrl + alt + asciiValue" to enter such numbers in DOS. -- H.S.Rai |
From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2002-07-12 19:42:28
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On 12 Jul 2002 19:22:17 +0530, H.S.Rai wrote: > > How can we write special character like alpha, beta, gamma > etc in JOE. I mean something equivalent to "ctrl + alt + > asciiValue" to enter such numbers in DOS. With the default joerc press ` (the key to the left of 1) and enter an ascii code. I usually remap the "quote" binding to Esc-`, because using ` to enter control characters is a really bad choice. Regards, Mikhael. |
From: H.S.Rai <hsr...@ii...> - 2002-07-14 08:06:26
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Is there any way to do "syntax highlight" in Joe? -- H.S.Rai |
From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2002-07-14 11:58:52
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On 14 Jul 2002 13:42:30 +0530, H.S.Rai wrote: > > Is there any way to do "syntax highlight" in Joe? No, currently. Regards, Mikhael. |
From: H.S.Rai <hsr...@ii...> - 2002-07-19 15:12:54
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Sunday at 11:58am -0000 Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > On 14 Jul 2002 13:42:30 +0530, H.S.Rai wrote: > > > > Is there any way to do "syntax highlight" in Joe? > > No, currently. Is any development work going in this direction? Any hope? -- H.S.Rai |
From: H.S.Rai <hsr...@ii...> - 2002-07-14 08:11:30
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Friday at 7:42pm -0000 Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > On 12 Jul 2002 19:22:17 +0530, H.S.Rai wrote: > > > > How can we write special character like alpha, beta, gamma > > With the default joerc press ` (the key to the left of 1) and enter = an > ascii code. Thank you Mr. Mikhael. I also noticed that Alt + ascii_code also do the same thing. Like alt+223 produces =DF and alt+248 produces =F8 , But can't find any ascii_code to produce alpha, gamma. --=20 H.S.Rai |
From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2002-07-14 11:50:46
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On 14 Jul 2002 13:47:40 +0530, H.S.Rai wrote: >=20 > Friday at 7:42pm -0000 Mikhael Goikhman wrote: >=20 > > On 12 Jul 2002 19:22:17 +0530, H.S.Rai wrote: > > > > > > How can we write special character like alpha, beta, gamma > > > > With the default joerc press ` (the key to the left of 1) and enter a= n > > ascii code. >=20 > Thank you Mr. Mikhael. I also noticed that Alt + ascii_code > also do the same thing. Like alt+223 produces =DF and alt+248 > produces =F8 Hmm, do you do this (Alt + ascii_code) on a unix terminal? Which one? > But can't find any ascii_code to produce alpha, gamma. This depends on your terminal font, See for example: http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859.html http://czyborra.com/charsets/codepages.html Regards, Mikhael. |
From: H.S.Rai <hsr...@ii...> - 2002-07-15 05:53:55
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Yesterday at 11:50am -0000 Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > On 14 Jul 2002 13:47:40 +0530, H.S.Rai wrote: > > > > Thank you Mr. Mikhael. I also noticed that Alt + ascii_code > > also do the same thing. Like alt+223 produces =DF and alt+248 > > produces =F8 > > Hmm, do you do this (Alt + ascii_code) on a unix terminal? Which one= ? Linux terminal. Using PCQ RedHat 7.1 [distributed by magazine PC Quest], and joe-2.8-44. > > But can't find any ascii_code to produce alpha, gamma. > > This depends on your terminal font, See for example: > > http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859.html > http://czyborra.com/charsets/codepages.html Some time a few mails as read in Pine, gave warning like: Your display is set for ISO-8859-1, Some characters may not be displayed correctly. May I now, what type of character should one set as default and how? --=20 H.S.Rai India |
From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2002-07-15 16:31:27
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On 15 Jul 2002 11:30:05 +0530, H.S.Rai wrote: > > Some time a few mails as read in Pine, gave warning like: > > Your display is set for ISO-8859-1, Some characters may not > be displayed correctly. > > May I now, what type of character should one set as default > and how? You may set the default character encoding (or charset) in the pine settings. Or maybe using an environment $LC_CTYPE or $LANG, contact your pine documentation. Pine assumes you may display only iso8859-1 glyphs, so it warns you when the message is in other encoding. If I send you a message in koi8-r, you will not see the Cyrillic letters correctly. There are 2 issues, a font used and a character encoding assumed for text. The second may be evaluated from the user's locale if an application supports internationalization (i18n). The first (font) is usually set when you start a terminal emulator. If you run terminal applications it is your responsobility to specify a font that matches the actual text encoding. If you run graphical programs, they sometimes may choose the matching font themselves, so you only should specify a text encoding. But even this is only needed for plain files, the email messages or html pages come with the character encoding specified in the "Content-Type:" header or similar. The i18n issues are not trivial. Probably in 5-10 years everyone will only use unicode fonts and utf encoding and will not have the current problems. Regards, Mikhael. |