From: George M. <geo...@ou...> - 2013-11-11 02:39:02
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Hi, I just installed gramps 4.0.2 on Windows 7 x64 and it works well. I added a couple of people but noticed that I can't add a middle name. I am also unsure what to do about maiden names. Should I add the person with their maiden name? Would I add a name change event? Also there is a bug when I try to add an event, the events don't scroll. There is a long list of events that go off the screen so I can't select marriage. I read the online documentation for version 4.0 but it doesn't answer either question. Thanks, George |
From: Ken <kb...@te...> - 2013-11-11 03:13:23
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Given names are all entered under Given separated by comas. Given, Middle, etc. For maiden names common practice is to use them. A marriage/family event connects the person to a spouse and any offspring. For the scrolling issue I can't help as I don't use Windows. Ken On November 10, 2013 08:38:54 PM George Myer wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed gramps 4.0.2 on Windows 7 x64 and it works well. I added a > couple of people but noticed that I can't add a middle name. I am also > unsure what to do about maiden names. Should I add the person with their > maiden name? Would I add a name change event? Also there is a bug when I > try to add an event, the events don't scroll. There is a long list of > events that go off the screen so I can't select marriage. I read the > online documentation for version 4.0 but it doesn't answer either question. > > Thanks, > George |
From: paul w. <pw...@pa...> - 2013-11-11 09:29:28
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Ken wrote: > Given names are all entered under Given separated by comas. > Given, Middle, etc. > > For maiden names common practice is to use them. > A marriage/family event connects the person to a spouse and any offspring. If a "sarah smith" is married to a "kevin jones, will a search for "sarah jones" succeed? BugBear |
From: lynches155 <lyn...@ho...> - 2013-11-11 09:51:51
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On 11/11/2013 09:28, paul womack wrote: > If a "sarah smith" is married to a "kevin jones, > will a search for "sarah jones" succeed? > > It will work, but only if you have added "Sarah Jones" as an alternative name for Sarah Smith, and only if you use the Person filter in the sidebar, not the quick filter at the top. Even then, I think you need to use a custom filter for a combined search on given name and surname. Mary |
From: Martin S. <mar...@ma...> - 2013-11-11 17:35:40
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 09:28:43AM +0000, paul womack wrote: >Ken wrote: >> Given names are all entered under Given separated by comas. >> Given, Middle, etc. >> >> For maiden names common practice is to use them. >> A marriage/family event connects the person to a spouse and any offspring. > >If a "sarah smith" is married to a "kevin jones, >will a search for "sarah jones" succeed? It should, shouldn't it. I hesitate to comment, as I'm no longer a active user of Gramps, but what the heck. The software I've been using lately allows you to set a unique alias for an individual, which you can use any place where you might use an id. Very handy when you're working on some particular group of individuals. I spose you could do something similar with a tag, aliasing Sarah Smith to '-> sarah jones', or whatever. Another thing I can do is assign someone to a network, say 'jones family', and search on that. An individual can be in multiple networks. This kind of strategy distinguishes between what might be displayed in a report, and what you might need to find tomorrow. Perhaps the point should also be made that maiden (birth family) names are vital in research, and should always be recorded. I don't record married names as alternates. I'm lazy, I have masses of yet to be organised data, and anyway, I have a marriage or other event to point me in the right direction if need be. In using Gramps, or other genealogical software, it is important, I think, to be clear about your goals, e.g. whether you want to put something together which will look well in a report, or you want to record your data in such a way as to further your research, or whatever. My own view is that a database if for data access; if the software is good enough, a report of any form can always be generated later. M. |
From: paul w. <pw...@pa...> - 2013-11-12 10:14:31
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Martin Steer wrote: > > Perhaps the point should also be made that maiden (birth family) names > are vital in research, and should always be recorded. > > I don't record married names as alternates. I'm lazy, I have masses of > yet to be organised data, and anyway, I have a marriage or other event > to point me in the right direction if need be. > > In using Gramps, or other genealogical software, it is important, I > think, to be clear about your goals, e.g. whether you want to put > something together which will look well in a report, or you want to > record your data in such a way as to further your research, or whatever. > My own view is that a database if for data access; if the software is > good enough, a report of any form can always be generated later. One reasonable goal I have is for my research so far to be easily utilised as a guide and assistance to further research. A case I actually had, for real, was a witness at a wedding. My database is large enough that I do not have it memorised (!!). The (married) witness signed under her married name (as you might expect). But I had (as is proper) the person under her birth name, with a marriage event. I had not created a married name. I did eventually find the witness in my database, and hook her in as a Gramps witness to the marriage event, but being able to simply search for a name, and have gramps find a married name would have been, to say the least, helpful. BugBear |
From: George M. <geo...@ou...> - 2013-11-12 14:18:15
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> Given names are all entered under Given separated by comas. > Given, Middle, etc. > > For maiden names common practice is to use them. > A marriage/family event connects the person to a spouse and any offspring. > > For the scrolling issue I can't help as I don't use Windows. Thank you for the information. |
From: Doug B. <dou...@gm...> - 2013-11-11 03:23:12
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On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 9:38 PM, George Myer <geo...@ou...> wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed gramps 4.0.2 on Windows 7 x64 and it works well. I added a > couple of people but noticed that I can't add a middle name. Middle names are usually put after the given name in that field. > I am also > unsure what to do about maiden names. Should I add the person with their > maiden name? Would I add a name change event? Each person can have any number of names. I usually make a person's first name their maiden name (indicated as their Birth Name) and then add Married names after that. The Birthday and Anniversary reports can be set up to use either name. > Also there is a bug when I > try to add an event, the events don't scroll. There is a long list of > events that go off the screen so I can't select marriage. I read the online > documentation for version 4.0 but it doesn't answer either question. You can also type in that field, yes? -Doug > Thanks, > George > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers > Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore > techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most > from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and > register > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |
From: David L M. <dlm...@gm...> - 2013-11-11 12:57:25
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I wish it were simpler to populate the married names. I've been copying and pasting the first and middle names, then typing the married surname, then have to remember to change the "birth name" pull-down to "married name". Just throwing it out for ideas. Thanks, David |
From: Doug B. <dou...@gm...> - 2013-11-11 13:17:23
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:57 AM, David L McMurray <dlm...@gm...> wrote: > I wish it were simpler to populate the married names. I've been copying and > pasting the first and middle names, then typing the married surname, then > have to remember to change the "birth name" pull-down to "married name". > Just throwing it out for ideas. Rather than having a million special functions (such as "Add a Married Name to this Person"), perhaps it would be better if Gramps had a method for defining little "macros" and attaching to specific keys. For example, you could then define a little function that adds an alternate name, and attach it to the key "F12" or something. Advanced users could write (and share) these little pieces of code, and you could adapt them for even more specific functionality. You could then script repeatable, monotonous tasks (eg, go to next record, add the Tag "Calendar"). -Doug > Thanks, > David > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers > Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore > techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most > from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
From: George M. <geo...@ou...> - 2013-11-12 14:14:50
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> > I wish it were simpler to populate the married names. I've been copying and > > pasting the first and middle names, then typing the married surname, then > > have to remember to change the "birth name" pull-down to "married name". > > Just throwing it out for ideas. > > Rather than having a million special functions (such as "Add a Married > Name to this Person"), perhaps it would be better if Gramps had a > method for defining little "macros" and attaching to specific keys. > For example, you could then define a little function that adds an > alternate name, and attach it to the key "F12" or something. Advanced > users could write (and share) these little pieces of code, and you > could adapt them for even more specific functionality. > > You could then script repeatable, monotonous tasks (eg, go to next > record, add the Tag "Calendar"). How about a checkbox in the marriage event that says taken the spouses name? This way it could work for when the wife takes the husbands name or vice versa. |
From: Enno B. <enn...@gm...> - 2013-11-11 16:34:13
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Hi George, > I just installed gramps 4.0.2 on Windows 7 x64 and it works well. I > added a couple of people but noticed that I can't add a middle name. > I am also unsure what to do about maiden names. Should I add the > person with their maiden name? Would I add a name change event? Also > there is a bug when I try to add an event, the events don't scroll. > There is a long list of events that go off the screen so I can't > select marriage. I read the online documentation for version 4.0 but > it doesn't answer either question. If you're new to Gramps, you may be better off with version 3.4.6 for now. The next generation 4.0 is quite new, which is why you are more likely to run into the sort of scroll problems that you encounter now. I run 3.4.6 in Windows 8.1 one myself, and it works quite well. This is not to say that 4.0.2 is bad, it's just that if the scroll thing is annoying to you now, I know that scrolling works in 3.4.6, which you can download here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gramps/files/Stable/3.4.6/ If this one's really better to your taste, you may need to use GEDCOM to transfer your tree from 4.0.2 to 3.4.6, and if you need any help with that, please ask. I've used Gramps for a few years now, and version 4 is still too new for me. We still fix bugs in 3.4.6, so you're quite safe using that too. regards, Enno |
From: George M. <geo...@ou...> - 2013-11-12 14:27:55
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Hi George, I just installed gramps 4.0.2 on Windows 7 x64 and it works well. I added a couple of people but noticed that I can't add a middle name. I am also unsure what to do about maiden names. Should I add the person with their maiden name? Would I add a name change event? Also there is a bug when I try to add an event, the events don't scroll. There is a long list of events that go off the screen so I can't select marriage. I read the online documentation for version 4.0 but it doesn't answer either question. If you're new to Gramps, you may be better off with version 3.4.6 for now. The next generation 4.0 is quite new, which is why you are more likely to run into the sort of scroll problems that you encounter now. I run 3.4.6 in Windows 8.1 one myself, and it works quite well. This is not to say that 4.0.2 is bad, it's just that if the scroll thing is annoying to you now, I know that scrolling works in 3.4.6, which you can download here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gramps/files/Stable/3.4.6/ If this one's really better to your taste, you may need to use GEDCOM to transfer your tree from 4.0.2 to 3.4.6, and if you need any help with that, please ask. I've used Gramps for a few years now, and version 4 is still too new for me. We still fix bugs in 3.4.6, so you're quite safe using that too. regards, Enno The scrolling thing doesn't bother me but is something that should be fixed IMO. I have only put in 3 people so far. I am trying to add as much information as possible to see how gramps works. I tried 3.4.3 a little while ago and I couldn't get it work. If I switch back to 3.4.x I don't have any information that I don't mind losing so starting from scratch again will only take a few minutes. Thank you to everyone who has helped me so far. I appreciate it. George |
From: Josip <jo...@pi...> - 2013-11-11 18:57:14
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Dana 11.11.2013. 3:38, George Myer je napisao: > Hi, > > I just installed gramps 4.0.2 on Windows 7 x64 and it works well. I > added a couple of people but noticed that I can't add a middle name. I > am also unsure what to do about maiden names. Should I add the person > with their maiden name? Would I add a name change event? Also there is > a bug when I try to add an event, the events don't scroll. There is a > long list of events that go off the screen so I can't select marriage. > I read the online documentation for version 4.0 but it doesn't answer > either question. > > Thanks, > George > Hi, events list can be scrolled with mouse wheel, moving mouse pointer to top/bottom row (one with arrow image) or using keyboard arrows keys. After you pointed it out i can now see that sometimes event list don't have those top/bottom row and can not be scrolled. Why is that i don't know. Can you report bug about that on http://bugs.gramps-project.org/ -- Josip |
From: George M. <geo...@ou...> - 2013-11-12 14:22:14
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> > I just installed gramps 4.0.2 on Windows 7 x64 and it works well. I > > added a couple of people but noticed that I can't add a middle name. I > > am also unsure what to do about maiden names. Should I add the person > > with their maiden name? Would I add a name change event? Also there is > > a bug when I try to add an event, the events don't scroll. There is a > > long list of events that go off the screen so I can't select marriage. > > I read the online documentation for version 4.0 but it doesn't answer > > either question. > > > > Thanks, > > George > > Hi, > events list can be scrolled with mouse wheel, moving mouse pointer to > top/bottom row (one with arrow image) or using keyboard arrows keys. > > After you pointed it out i can now see that sometimes event list don't > have those top/bottom row and can not be scrolled. Why is that i don't know. > > Can you report bug about that on http://bugs.gramps-project.org/ Mouse scrolling and the arrow keys work. However pressing m for marriage does not work. I will add a bug this weekend. |