From: Stein E. B. <gr...@be...> - 2010-08-01 15:33:59
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In Norway, as some of you probably know, we have this site called 'Cemeteries in Norway' (http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/), which lists most cemeteries with information about: Birth, death and burial. Some do even have a picture of the headstone attached. So far all is well and good. I've added this as a repository to GRAMPS. Setting the following: Name: Cemeteries in Norway Type: Web site Internet: - Web home: Path: http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/ 'Home page' - E-mail: Path: gr...@di... 'Contact address' So far so good I hope. So for the next part. I've found a entry that i do want do add as a source from this repository. This is where I become a bit 'frustrated', sort of. I usually enter all the information I need into the first editor. As 'title', 'Author' and 'Publication information', that's easy. The next bit attaching it to a Repository gets a bit frustrating as to what to use as a 'Call number'. Up until now I've used the full 'URL'. But I start to see some issues with it. As you also can sort of get into 'circular reference' issues. Especially when you attach an image taken from the same source, who also happens to be the same source, but from where you don't use the same 'Call number', but a different URL. I've started to believe that i should use the 'id' as the call number, and give 'instructions' on how to find the entry in 'Cemeteries in Norway' by searching for that id. Next step is to attach your source, and I do the following in the 'Source Reference Editor': General: * Date: I do not use this, as I don't know which date to enter... I don't see a clear answer from 'Editing source references' (http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.2_Wiki_Manual_-_Entering_and_Editing_Data:_Detailed_-_part_2#Editing_source_references). * Volume/Page: I don't feel this applies * Confidence: 'Very high', as this is the 'definitive' source for this information. Notes: * I usually attach a note saying what I used this source for. My question in is this: Do you agree to this approach for source 'citing'/usage? Do you see other more effective ways to do this? What is the 'best practice' when it comes to these things? All of this is put into the wikipage "How do I add 'Cemeteries in Norway' entries as a source" (http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=How_do_I_add_%27Cemeteries_in_Norway%27_entries_as_a_source) which I hope some of you will help me improve. I've got more screen-shots, but it seems like the server needs a restart, as it can't display some of the image because of a message looking like this: "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2710692 bytes) in /home/grampsd/public_html/wiki/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 172" The images having trouble are these: * http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Gravminner_i_Norge_Entry_-_Opera.png * http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Gravminner_i_Norge_-_Opera.png I've seen a few others having the same issue as well: * http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Edit-person-32-nl.png -- Stein Erik Berget |
From: Gerald B. <ger...@gm...> - 2010-08-01 22:56:30
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For call num you could use a combo of cem. name and plot number I spose. For date, the burial date is good especially if you use a burial event (that's what I do) On 8/1/10, Stein Erik Berget <gr...@be...> wrote: > In Norway, as some of you probably know, we have this site called > 'Cemeteries in Norway' (http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/), which lists > most cemeteries with information about: Birth, death and burial. Some do > even have a picture of the headstone attached. So far all is well and good. > > I've added this as a repository to GRAMPS. Setting the following: > > Name: Cemeteries in Norway > Type: Web site > Internet: > - Web home: Path: http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/ 'Home page' > - E-mail: Path: gr...@di... 'Contact address' > > > So far so good I hope. So for the next part. I've found a entry that i do > want do add as a source from this repository. This is where I become a bit > 'frustrated', sort of. > > I usually enter all the information I need into the first editor. As > 'title', 'Author' and 'Publication information', that's easy. The next bit > attaching it to a Repository gets a bit frustrating as to what to use as a > 'Call number'. Up until now I've used the full 'URL'. But I start to see > some issues with it. As you also can sort of get into 'circular reference' > issues. Especially when you attach an image taken from the same source, > who also happens to be the same source, but from where you don't use the > same 'Call number', but a different URL. I've started to believe that i > should use the 'id' as the call number, and give 'instructions' on how to > find the entry in 'Cemeteries in Norway' by searching for that id. > > Next step is to attach your source, and I do the following in the 'Source > Reference Editor': > > General: > * Date: I do not use this, as I don't know which date to enter... I don't > see a clear answer from 'Editing source references' > (http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.2_Wiki_Manual_-_Entering_and_Editing_Data:_Detailed_-_part_2#Editing_source_references). > * Volume/Page: I don't feel this applies > * Confidence: 'Very high', as this is the 'definitive' source for this > information. > > Notes: > * I usually attach a note saying what I used this source for. > > My question in is this: Do you agree to this approach for source > 'citing'/usage? Do you see other more effective ways to do this? What is > the 'best practice' when it comes to these things? > > > All of this is put into the wikipage "How do I add 'Cemeteries in Norway' > entries as a source" > (http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=How_do_I_add_%27Cemeteries_in_Norway%27_entries_as_a_source) > > which I hope some of you will help me improve. > > > > I've got more screen-shots, but it seems like the server needs a restart, > as it can't display some of the image because of a message looking like > this: "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes exhausted (tried > to allocate 2710692 bytes) in > /home/grampsd/public_html/wiki/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 172" > > The images having trouble are these: > * > http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Gravminner_i_Norge_Entry_-_Opera.png > * > http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Gravminner_i_Norge_-_Opera.png > > I've seen a few others having the same issue as well: > * > http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Edit-person-32-nl.png > > > -- > Stein Erik Berget > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the > Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share > of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > -- Sent from my mobile device Gerald Britton |
From: Stein E. B. <gr...@be...> - 2010-08-02 06:11:48
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 00:56:23 +0200, Gerald Britton <ger...@gm...> wrote: > For call num you could use a combo of cem. name and plot number I > spose. I find that doing that combo will make for difficult searching. You would need to enter 2 or 3 different pieces of information correct to get the correct record. The full url is sort of a bit overkill, as it might be that they change that one. > For date, the burial date is good especially if you use a > burial event (that's what I do) I've started to use the date from the 'record', that is, from when the registry is from. If you get what I'm saying. I'll try to update my guide at (http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=How_do_I_add_%27Cemeteries_in_Norway%27_entries_as_a_source) today. <snip /> -- Stein Erik Berget |
From: jerome <rom...@ya...> - 2010-08-02 03:54:25
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> I've got more screen-shots, but it seems like the server > needs a restart, > as it can't display some of the image because of a message > looking like > this: "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes > exhausted (tried > to allocate 2710692 bytes) in > /home/grampsd/public_html/wiki/includes/media/Bitmap.php on > line 172" 16.7M colors is maybe the limit for an enjoy browsing ? For .png file, I often try to limit the size of the file by using indented mode (ex: Gimp menu -> Mode). It will be displayed quicker for the user (load on navigator), just a possible limitation on quality by printing and less colors, but basics are enough for the screen. There is also tools like pngcrush, optipng, etc ... HTH Jérôme --- En date de : Dim 1.8.10, Stein Erik Berget <gr...@be...> a écrit : > De: Stein Erik Berget <gr...@be...> > Objet: [Gramps-users] Adding 'Cemeteries in Norway' as a source and repository > À: "gra...@li..." <gra...@li...> > Date: Dimanche 1 août 2010, 17h22 > In Norway, as some of you probably > know, we have this site called > 'Cemeteries in Norway' (http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/), which lists > > most cemeteries with information about: Birth, death and > burial. Some do > even have a picture of the headstone attached. So far all > is well and good. > > I've added this as a repository to GRAMPS. Setting the > following: > > Name: Cemeteries in Norway > Type: Web site > Internet: > - Web home: Path: http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/ 'Home page' > - E-mail: Path: gr...@di... > 'Contact address' > > > So far so good I hope. So for the next part. I've found a > entry that i do > want do add as a source from this repository. This is where > I become a bit > 'frustrated', sort of. > > I usually enter all the information I need into the first > editor. As > 'title', 'Author' and 'Publication information', that's > easy. The next bit > attaching it to a Repository gets a bit frustrating as to > what to use as a > 'Call number'. Up until now I've used the full 'URL'. But I > start to see > some issues with it. As you also can sort of get into > 'circular reference' > issues. Especially when you attach an image taken from the > same source, > who also happens to be the same source, but from where you > don't use the > same 'Call number', but a different URL. I've started to > believe that i > should use the 'id' as the call number, and give > 'instructions' on how to > find the entry in 'Cemeteries in Norway' by searching for > that id. > > Next step is to attach your source, and I do the following > in the 'Source > Reference Editor': > > General: > * Date: I do not use this, as I don't know which date to > enter... I don't > see a clear answer from 'Editing source references' > (http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.2_Wiki_Manual_-_Entering_and_Editing_Data:_Detailed_-_part_2#Editing_source_references). > * Volume/Page: I don't feel this applies > * Confidence: 'Very high', as this is the 'definitive' > source for this > information. > > Notes: > * I usually attach a note saying what I used this source > for. > > My question in is this: Do you agree to this approach for > source > 'citing'/usage? Do you see other more effective ways to do > this? What is > the 'best practice' when it comes to these things? > > > All of this is put into the wikipage "How do I add > 'Cemeteries in Norway' > entries as a source" > (http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=How_do_I_add_%27Cemeteries_in_Norway%27_entries_as_a_source) > > which I hope some of you will help me improve. > > > > I've got more screen-shots, but it seems like the server > needs a restart, > as it can't display some of the image because of a message > looking like > this: "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes > exhausted (tried > to allocate 2710692 bytes) in > /home/grampsd/public_html/wiki/includes/media/Bitmap.php on > line 172" > > The images having trouble are these: > * > http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Gravminner_i_Norge_Entry_-_Opera.png > * > http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Gravminner_i_Norge_-_Opera.png > > I've seen a few others having the same issue as well: > * > http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Edit-person-32-nl.png > > > -- > Stein Erik Berget > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use > the > Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm > for a share > of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for > more details: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |
From: Stein E. B. <gr...@be...> - 2010-08-02 06:57:00
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 05:54:17 +0200, jerome <rom...@ya...> wrote: >> I've got more screen-shots, but it seems like the server >> needs a restart, >> as it can't display some of the image because of a message >> looking like >> this: "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes >> exhausted (tried >> to allocate 2710692 bytes) in >> /home/grampsd/public_html/wiki/includes/media/Bitmap.php on >> line 172" > > 16.7M colors is maybe the limit for an enjoy browsing ? Well, this was a 24 bit screen-shot taken with the 'Take Screenshot' app that comes with Ubuntu. It has never failed me before... > For .png file, I often try to limit the size of the file by using > indented mode (ex: Gimp menu -> Mode). It will be displayed quicker for > the user (load on navigator), just a possible limitation on quality by > printing and less colors, but basics are enough for the screen. > > There is also tools like pngcrush, optipng, etc ... Seems like I'm to used to a Web CMS that does all this for me :-) -- Stein Erik Berget |