From: Steve H. <dig...@mi...> - 2004-12-10 18:32:36
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From: Glenn McKechnie, Dec 10, 2004 5:39 AM > Steve Hall wrote: > > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/individual1.html > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/individual2.html > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/individual3.html [...] > I notice that these layouts appear slightly different between > Opera/Konqueror and Firefox/Mozilla. The image alignment in > individual1.html and individual2.html appears to need some tweaking. > Neither Opera or Konqueror have the image/divider overlap that > Firefox and Mozilla do. I find Gecko(Mozilla/Firefox) support standards better than other browsers, and the image above is placed with a "float: right;" statement, usually a glaring problem in most non-Gecko browsers. I got a chance to check them out in IE 6 today and it shows this issue (and a few others as well). Not sure how the decision tree will work on this. Would it be helpful to patch these up and maybe try a few new varieties? Would a sampling of the other pages (front, index, source) would be useful as well? Anything glaring that is missing from these? Suggestions for alternates? -- Steve Hall [ digitect mindspring com ] Cream... something good to put in your Vim! http://cream.sourceforge.net |
From: Steve H. <dig...@mi...> - 2004-12-12 22:01:55
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From: Eero Tamminen, Dec 12, 2004 3:15 PM > > > I've worked up an entire version of the website in the three > > flavors (still in progress): > > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/1/ > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/2/ > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/3/ Now adjusted again, plus an addition: http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/4/ It uses a slimmer serif font, more redish sepia tone, and thickens the horizontal rules. [...] > Especially the individuals page: > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/2/lastfirstmiddle.html > looks IMHO better organized when the headings span the whole page width. On the screen, I would agree. (Maybe not printed, though.) > However, I would probably switch the emphasis from the value to the > field name (e.g. have "Gender" in bold instead "Male"), like was > done in Justin's pages. #4 tries this in a variation of #3. > Btw. I prefer this version over DHTML because DHTML has always felt > a bit "fragile". At least printing such pages has never worked > properly for me (especially with different browsers). Another concern is having pages require interaction to read or navigate through initially hidden facts. It's easy to forget connections. Bouncing back and forth through people should be as easy as possible. -- Steve Hall [ digitect mindspring com ] |
From: Steve H. <dig...@mi...> - 2004-12-13 00:26:50
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On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 17:01 -0500, Steve Hall wrote: > > > > > I've worked up an entire version of the website in the three > > > flavors (still in progress): > > > > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/1/ > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/2/ > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/3/ > > Now adjusted again, plus an addition: > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/4/ Again, and another: http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/5/ -- Steve Hall [ digitect mindspring com ] |
From: Stephen F. <slf...@ea...> - 2004-12-13 01:33:48
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I think you've got it. This looks great! On Dec 12, 2004, at 6:26 PM, Steve Hall wrote: > On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 17:01 -0500, Steve Hall wrote: >>> >>>> I've worked up an entire version of the website in the three >>>> flavors (still in progress): >>>> >>>> http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/1/ >>>> http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/2/ >>>> http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/3/ >> >> Now adjusted again, plus an addition: >> >> http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/4/ > > Again, and another: > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/5/ > > > -- > Steve Hall [ digitect mindspring com ] > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real > users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |
From: Eero T. <eer...@ne...> - 2004-12-13 19:24:53
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Hi, > > > > I've worked up an entire version of the website in the three > > > > flavors (still in progress): > > > > > > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/1/ > > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/2/ > > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/3/ > > > > Now adjusted again, plus an addition: > > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/4/ > > Again, and another: > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/5/ This looks very good, and I think I also like this the most. However, like background color bar on the headings, I liked the background color boxes in another version of the pages, they organized the content very nicely for: - Sources: http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/4/sources.html - Individuals having the same surname: http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/4/individuals.html - Address/contact block on the "Contact" page (no example) - Eero |
From: Glenn M. <gra...@op...> - 2004-12-11 00:50:24
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Steve Hall wrote: [...] > Not sure how the decision tree will work on this. Would it be helpful > to patch these up and maybe try a few new varieties? Would a sampling > of the other pages (front, index, source) would be useful as well? > Anything glaring that is missing from these? Suggestions for > alternates? Although I'm not the one that has to do the work of incorporating them I think having a few choices is good. If there are too many then the best survive, if it's too hard to choose then the mini project has exceeded its goals. Patching them up would be good, along with Shane's javascript page they complement the project nicely. If the patches fail then perhaps the new varieties would be suitable substitutes. I don't know what other presentations you have in mind but you have me intrigued. I'd like to see the other pages, in particular the Surnames, Individuals. By using Shane's expandable boxes (or a similar?) method I feel that these two pages could be condensed into one usable page quite effectively, at least for small databases that would be the case. That's just one opinion though and I'm always happy to be surprised. -- Cheers Glenn |
From: Don A. <don...@co...> - 2004-12-11 17:24:11
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Steve, I went back to look at these, and they seem to have disappeared. Don On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 13:32 -0500, Steve Hall wrote: > From: Glenn McKechnie, Dec 10, 2004 5:39 AM > > Steve Hall wrote: > > > > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/individual1.html > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/individual2.html > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/individual3.html > [...] > > I notice that these layouts appear slightly different between > > Opera/Konqueror and Firefox/Mozilla. The image alignment in > > individual1.html and individual2.html appears to need some tweaking. > > Neither Opera or Konqueror have the image/divider overlap that > > Firefox and Mozilla do. > > I find Gecko(Mozilla/Firefox) support standards better than other > browsers, and the image above is placed with a "float: right;" > statement, usually a glaring problem in most non-Gecko browsers. I got > a chance to check them out in IE 6 today and it shows this issue (and > a few others as well). > > Not sure how the decision tree will work on this. Would it be helpful > to patch these up and maybe try a few new varieties? Would a sampling > of the other pages (front, index, source) would be useful as well? > Anything glaring that is missing from these? Suggestions for > alternates? > > -- Don Allingham <don...@co...> |
From: Steve H. <dig...@mi...> - 2004-12-12 18:46:22
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On Sat, 2004-12-11 at 10:24 -0700, Don Allingham wrote: > > I went back to look at these, and they seem to have disappeared. I've worked up an entire version of the website in the three flavors (still in progress): http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/1/ http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/2/ http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/3/ These work on Gecko and IE. I hadn't posted yet because I wanted to do a few more flavors, but you can see where I'm headed. -- Steve Hall [ digitect mindspring com ] |
From: Eero T. <eer...@ne...> - 2004-12-12 20:03:44
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Hi, > > I went back to look at these, and they seem to have disappeared. > > I've worked up an entire version of the website in the three flavors > (still in progress): > > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/1/ > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/2/ > http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/3/ These look excellent! If I were to be asked for the favorite, I would say to use the heading from 3rd (+ fonts & colors) and rest from 2nd variant. Especially the individuals page: http://www.mindspring.com/~digitect/gramps-test/2/lastfirstmiddle.html looks IMHO better organized when the headings span the whole page width. However, I would probably switch the emphasis from the value to the field name (e.g. have "Gender" in bold instead "Male"), like was done in Justin's pages. Btw. I prefer this version over DHTML because DHTML has always felt a bit "fragile". At least printing such pages has never worked properly for me (especially with different browsers). - Eero > These work on Gecko and IE. > > I hadn't posted yet because I wanted to do a few more flavors, but you > can see where I'm headed. |
From: Don A. <don...@co...> - 2004-12-11 17:35:10
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On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 13:32 -0500, Steve Hall wrote: > Not sure how the decision tree will work on this. Would it be helpful > to patch these up and maybe try a few new varieties? Would a sampling > of the other pages (front, index, source) would be useful as well? > Anything glaring that is missing from these? Suggestions for > alternates? Steve, I'm going from memory here, since I wasn't smart enough to grab a copy off your website... I think these look fantastic. And the fact the we have three very distinctive looks just with style sheets is impressive. I would personally like to see a mockup of the front, index, and source pages. I think it would be nice to combine this style with the ancestor view (with the nice boxes) that Shane displayed. Another possible enhancement would be the expand/collapse box that Shane had as well - it would be nice to have this as an option when we generate the pages. Don -- Don Allingham <don...@co...> |
From: Shane K. <sh...@sh...> - 2004-12-13 05:12:36
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I updated my HTML to add a print stylesheet to make printing easier. The only catch is it won't print the hidden blocks so you'll have to hit "Expand All" to make everything print out. I'll try to see if I can fix this tomorrow. In the meantime, the print stylesheet converts everything to black-and-white and hides the control boxes. I went ahead and hid the Pedigree, too, since it doesn't print out right due to CSS background images not printing in browsers. Besides, people would probably want to print out the Pedigree separately anyway. Let me know if you think that's an important point and I'll see about working on a fix. The URL is the same: http://www.shanekillian.org/gramps/ -- Shane Killian sh...@sh... http://www.shanekillian.org |
From: Justin G. Z. <jus...@gm...> - 2004-12-26 18:59:14
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AdvWebPage.tgz
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Its not done yet, but I wanted to get people to give a little feedback. Extract the archive in your ~/.gramps directory and start gramps. You should see a new report under website. Things to note: 1) Its not done 2) the privacy option doesn't work yet 3) in ~/.gramps/templates/Default there is a readme.txt Justin |
From: Tom W. <to...@ad...> - 2004-12-26 19:20:32
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Not sure if this is because I have a slightly older GRAMPS on my system, but when I click on Advanced Web Site nothing happens, and I get the following traceback: tom@linux:~> gramps Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/share/gramps/gramps_main.py", line 1863, in menu_report task(self.db,self.active_person) File "/home/tom/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1214, in report AdvWebSiteDialog(database,person) File "/home/tom/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1062, in __init__ self.add_frames() File "/home/tom/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1131, in add_frames self.gen_theme = gtk.combo_box_new_text() AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'combo_box_new_text' tom@linux:~> gramps --version Gnome gramps 1.0.4-1 On Sunday 26 December 2004 01:59 pm, Justin Geo Zaun wrote: > Its not done yet, but I wanted to get people to give a little > feedback. Extract the archive in your ~/.gramps directory and start > gramps. You should see a new report under website. > > Things to note: > 1) Its not done > 2) the privacy option doesn't work yet > 3) in ~/.gramps/templates/Default there is a readme.txt > > Justin |
From: Charles R. D. <de...@ro...> - 2004-12-26 20:57:22
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Justin Geo Zaun wrote: > Its not done yet, but I wanted to get people to give a little > feedback. Extract the archive in your ~/.gramps directory and start > gramps. You should see a new report under website. > > Things to note: > 1) Its not done > 2) the privacy option doesn't work yet > 3) in ~/.gramps/templates/Default there is a readme.txt > > Justin I received a similar error as someone else reported: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/gramps/gramps_main.py", line 1874, in menu_report task(self.db,self.active_person) File "/home/charlie/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1214, in report AdvWebSiteDialog(database,person) File "/home/charlie/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1062, in __init__ self.add_frames() File "/home/charlie/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1131, in add_frames self.gen_theme = gtk.combo_box_new_text() AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'combo_box_new_text' I'm running gramps 1.0.8-1 on a RH9 system. Charlie http://www.dennett.org/genealogy |
From: Justin G. Z. <jus...@gm...> - 2004-12-26 21:27:08
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Sorry sent this to Tom, not the list. Justin ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Justin Geo Zaun <jus...@gm...> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:01:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Web Site Update To: to...@ad... Sorry, thats not a gramps thing, you must have a older version of gtk and or gtk-python installed. I have gtk+2.0 version 2.4.13 and pygtk2.0 version 2.4.1 installed. you traceback says it can't find the combo_box_new_text() function/object which is in pygtk. If this is a big problem I can see about useing an older widget. Justin On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:23:55 -0500, Tom Weichmann <to...@ad...> wrote: > Not sure if this is because I have a slightly older GRAMPS on my system, but > when I click on Advanced Web Site nothing happens, and I get the following > traceback: > > tom@linux:~> gramps > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/share/gramps/gramps_main.py", line 1863, in menu_report > task(self.db,self.active_person) > File "/home/tom/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1214, in report > AdvWebSiteDialog(database,person) > File "/home/tom/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1062, in __init__ > self.add_frames() > File "/home/tom/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1131, in add_frames > self.gen_theme = gtk.combo_box_new_text() > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'combo_box_new_text' > > tom@linux:~> gramps --version > Gnome gramps 1.0.4-1 > > > On Sunday 26 December 2004 01:59 pm, Justin Geo Zaun wrote: > > Its not done yet, but I wanted to get people to give a little > > feedback. Extract the archive in your ~/.gramps directory and start > > gramps. You should see a new report under website. > > > > Things to note: > > 1) Its not done > > 2) the privacy option doesn't work yet > > 3) in ~/.gramps/templates/Default there is a readme.txt > > > > Justin > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |
From: Charles R. D. <de...@ro...> - 2004-12-26 21:40:31
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Justin Geo Zaun wrote: > Sorry sent this to Tom, not the list. > > Justin > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Justin Geo Zaun <jus...@gm...> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:01:03 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Web Site Update > To: to...@ad... > > > Sorry, thats not a gramps thing, you must have a older version of gtk > and or gtk-python installed. I have gtk+2.0 version 2.4.13 and > pygtk2.0 version 2.4.1 installed. > > you traceback says it can't find the combo_box_new_text() > function/object which is in pygtk. > > If this is a big problem I can see about useing an older widget. > > Justin Thanks, Justin. I did a bit of digging and came up with the same answer. I fired up synaptic on my RH9 system to see if there was a module out there with the newest version. Nope. My gtk+ is 1.2.10 and pygth2 is 1.99.14. Both of those are the latest from the repositories I use with synaptic. If you (or anyone reading this) knows of a repository to use with synaptic that would have the latest versions of these packages, I'd love to hear about it. Otherwise I'll have to find and install the packages manually and do all the dependancy resolving manually. Normally synaptic would do all that automatically. Doing it manually is a pain! Thanks! Charlie |
From: Don A. <dal...@us...> - 2004-12-26 21:51:46
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GRAMPS 1.0.X should only use gtk 2.0 widgets. With the 1.1.X branch, we have to require gtk 2.4. Don On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 16:27 -0500, Justin Geo Zaun wrote: > Sorry sent this to Tom, not the list. > > Justin > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Justin Geo Zaun <jus...@gm...> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:01:03 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Web Site Update > To: to...@ad... > > > Sorry, thats not a gramps thing, you must have a older version of gtk > and or gtk-python installed. I have gtk+2.0 version 2.4.13 and > pygtk2.0 version 2.4.1 installed. > > you traceback says it can't find the combo_box_new_text() > function/object which is in pygtk. > > If this is a big problem I can see about useing an older widget. > > Justin > > > On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:23:55 -0500, Tom Weichmann <to...@ad...> wrote: > > Not sure if this is because I have a slightly older GRAMPS on my system, but > > when I click on Advanced Web Site nothing happens, and I get the following > > traceback: > > > > tom@linux:~> gramps > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/local/share/gramps/gramps_main.py", line 1863, in menu_report > > task(self.db,self.active_person) > > File "/home/tom/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1214, in report > > AdvWebSiteDialog(database,person) > > File "/home/tom/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1062, in __init__ > > self.add_frames() > > File "/home/tom/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1131, in add_frames > > self.gen_theme = gtk.combo_box_new_text() > > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'combo_box_new_text' > > > > tom@linux:~> gramps --version > > Gnome gramps 1.0.4-1 > > > > > > On Sunday 26 December 2004 01:59 pm, Justin Geo Zaun wrote: > > > Its not done yet, but I wanted to get people to give a little > > > feedback. Extract the archive in your ~/.gramps directory and start > > > gramps. You should see a new report under website. > > > > > > Things to note: > > > 1) Its not done > > > 2) the privacy option doesn't work yet > > > 3) in ~/.gramps/templates/Default there is a readme.txt > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Gramps-users mailing list > > Gra...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users -- Don Allingham <dal...@us...> GRAMPS - Open Source Genealogy |
From: Justin G. Z. <jus...@gm...> - 2004-12-26 21:58:33
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OK, will change that. Justin On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:48:50 -0700, Don Allingham <dal...@us...> wrote: > GRAMPS 1.0.X should only use gtk 2.0 widgets. With the 1.1.X branch, we > have to require gtk 2.4. > > Don > > On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 16:27 -0500, Justin Geo Zaun wrote: > > Sorry sent this to Tom, not the list. > > > > Justin > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Justin Geo Zaun <jus...@gm...> > > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:01:03 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Web Site Update > > To: to...@ad... > > > > > > Sorry, thats not a gramps thing, you must have a older version of gtk > > and or gtk-python installed. I have gtk+2.0 version 2.4.13 and > > pygtk2.0 version 2.4.1 installed. > > > > you traceback says it can't find the combo_box_new_text() > > function/object which is in pygtk. > > > > If this is a big problem I can see about useing an older widget. > > > > Justin > > > > > > On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:23:55 -0500, Tom Weichmann <to...@ad...> wrote: > > > Not sure if this is because I have a slightly older GRAMPS on my system, but > > > when I click on Advanced Web Site nothing happens, and I get the following > > > traceback: > > > > > > tom@linux:~> gramps > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > > File "/usr/local/share/gramps/gramps_main.py", line 1863, in menu_report > > > task(self.db,self.active_person) > > > File "/home/tom/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1214, in report > > > AdvWebSiteDialog(database,person) > > > File "/home/tom/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1062, in __init__ > > > self.add_frames() > > > File "/home/tom/.gramps/plugins/AdvWebPage.py", line 1131, in add_frames > > > self.gen_theme = gtk.combo_box_new_text() > > > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'combo_box_new_text' > > > > > > tom@linux:~> gramps --version > > > Gnome gramps 1.0.4-1 > > > > > > > > > On Sunday 26 December 2004 01:59 pm, Justin Geo Zaun wrote: > > > > Its not done yet, but I wanted to get people to give a little > > > > feedback. Extract the archive in your ~/.gramps directory and start > > > > gramps. You should see a new report under website. > > > > > > > > Things to note: > > > > 1) Its not done > > > > 2) the privacy option doesn't work yet > > > > 3) in ~/.gramps/templates/Default there is a readme.txt > > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > > > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gramps-users mailing list > > > Gra...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Gramps-users mailing list > > Gra...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > -- > Don Allingham <dal...@us...> > GRAMPS - Open Source Genealogy > > |
From: Justin G. Z. <jus...@gm...> - 2004-12-26 22:54:10
Attachments:
AdvWebPage.tgz
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Changed to use 2.0 widgets not 2.4 Justin |