From: J. A. C. <sof...@cr...> - 2012-11-19 19:51:21
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I'm interested in how other Gramps users handle surnames for people with no surname or for whom the surname is unknown. I've been following the practice in the data I was given as a starting point several years ago when I began working on genealogy, which is to use "?" for the surname for people that the surname is unknown (usually women whose maiden names are unknown) and leaving the surname blank when there is no surname (mostly European royalty). The only problem this has caused me is that when I generate a Narrated Web Site, the only way to access data for people with no surnames is from the Individuals page (which takes a long time to load because there are over 35,000 people in my database) or from other pages that have links to them. Thanks, Allen Crider |
From: Ron J. <ron...@co...> - 2012-11-19 20:22:01
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On 11/19/2012 01:51 PM, J. Allen Crider wrote: > I'm interested in how other Gramps users handle surnames for people with > no surname or for whom the surname is unknown. > > I've been following the practice in the data I was given as a starting > point several years ago when I began working on genealogy, which is to > use "?" for the surname for people that the surname is unknown (usually > women whose maiden names are unknown) and leaving the surname blank when > there is no surname (mostly European royalty). > > The only problem this has caused me is that when I generate a Narrated > Web Site, the only way to access data for people with no surnames is > from the Individuals page (which takes a long time to load because there > are over 35,000 people in my database) or from other pages that have > links to them. > I use LNU & FNU. http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/FNU http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/LNU For royalty, I'd use d'/de/of {town/palace/house/dynasty). http://www.royal.gov.uk/ThecurrentRoyalFamily/TheRoyalFamilyname/Overview.aspx -- God didn't give America it's rights; men with guns violently took them with from other men with guns. |
From: Peter G <sai...@ya...> - 2012-11-19 22:31:41
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For women whom I don't know the maiden name, but do know the married name use regular case Lastname instead of Woman MAIDENNAME or Son LASTNAME. If I don't even have that it's son #1 of PERSON; or wife of PERSON Peter >________________________________ > From: J. Allen Crider <sof...@cr...> > > >I'm interested in how other Gramps users handle surnames for people with >no surname or for whom the surname is unknown. > >I've been following the practice in the data I was given as a starting >point several years ago when I began working on genealogy, which is to >use "?" for the surname for people that the surname is unknown (usually >women whose maiden names are unknown) and leaving the surname blank when >there is no surname (mostly European royalty). > >The only problem this has caused me is that when I generate a Narrated >Web Site, the only way to access data for people with no surnames is >from the Individuals page (which takes a long time to load because there >are over 35,000 people in my database) or from other pages that have >links to them. > >Thanks, >Allen Crider > > |
From: b4m <bes...@gm...> - 2012-11-19 23:00:08
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In my own tree where I have a married woman whose maiden name I do not know I use her married name, but in brackets. I use Ancestry for on-line collaboration and periodically import an Ancestry GEDCOM into Gramps, to make use of Gramps' superior reporting and searching capabilities. Actually, Ancestry doesn't have any reporting and searching worth talking about! I prefer to use the married name in brackets rather than a "?" because at least then your "unknowns" have a grouping of sorts. I don't have to worry about any European Royalty in my tree! :-) On 19 November 2012 20:51, J. Allen Crider < sof...@cr...> wrote: > I'm interested in how other Gramps users handle surnames for people with > no surname or for whom the surname is unknown. > > I've been following the practice in the data I was given as a starting > point several years ago when I began working on genealogy, which is to > use "?" for the surname for people that the surname is unknown (usually > women whose maiden names are unknown) and leaving the surname blank when > there is no surname (mostly European royalty). > > The only problem this has caused me is that when I generate a Narrated > Web Site, the only way to access data for people with no surnames is > from the Individuals page (which takes a long time to load because there > are over 35,000 people in my database) or from other pages that have > links to them. > > Thanks, > Allen Crider > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |
From: <man...@ya...> - 2012-11-20 13:55:05
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hello i'm back, i have free time for recovery data from navweb to gramps, turn on! but i use CSV, it's easy to use and recovery, use with libreoffice CALC but i need database CSV for GRAMPS: example surname, family, name, birthday, death, etc... i wanted list all data csv for gramps, i have column (sheet) name Parents, partner, this are created from NAVWEB.. but parents and partner is work import csv into gramps? but sheet for parents: there are all names male and surnames male and names female and surnames female, but hard to task for gramps used [I0000] and [F0000] this is very very hard time for process... there is other way easy? my old mailist: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=CAAusYCj9Ovx-HO_L4m71oAjbfC32z5UkFTpFim3P5WXoi6MgwA%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=gramps-users thank you |
From: Doug B. <dou...@gm...> - 2012-11-20 17:35:56
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If I understand you correctly, you would like to import data via CSV that it doesn't currently support. Do you have a list of fields that you would like supported? -Doug On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, <man...@ya...> wrote: > hello > > i'm back, i have free time for recovery data from navweb to gramps, turn > on! > but i use CSV, it's easy to use and recovery, use with libreoffice CALC > but i need database CSV for GRAMPS: > example > surname, family, name, birthday, death, etc... > i wanted list all data csv for gramps, i have column (sheet) name Parents, > partner, this are created from NAVWEB.. but parents and partner is work > import csv into gramps? > > but sheet for parents: there are all names male and surnames male and > names female and surnames female, but hard to task for gramps used [I0000] > and [F0000] this is very very hard time for process... there is other way > easy? > > my old mailist: > > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=CAAusYCj9Ovx-HO_L4m71oAjbfC32z5UkFTpFim3P5WXoi6MgwA%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=gramps-users > > thank you > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > |
From: <man...@ya...> - 2012-11-20 21:21:16
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hello i'm finish to convert with my hand and mouse.. it's long hard!! then now i wanted to try navweb but there is problem... my database gramps 222 peoples, but navweb is problem serious: 30 peoples not all 222..why? Gramps 3.4.2-1 > gramps -v ** (process:29615): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GMountMountFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags' ** (process:29615): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GDriveStartFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags' ** (process:29615): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GSocketMsgFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags' Gramps Settings: ---------------- python : 2.7.3 gramps : 3.4.2-1 gtk++ : 2.24.10 pygtk : 2.24.0 gobject : 2.28.6 Not using bsddb3 bsddb : 4.8.4.2 bsddb.db : (4, 8, 30) cairo : 1.10.0 osmgpsmap : not found pyexiv2 : not found o.s. : Linux kernel : 3.4.11-2.16-desktop Environment settings: --------------------- LANG : it_IT.UTF-8 LANGUAGE : it_IT.UTF-8 GRAMPSI18N: not set GRAMPSHOME: not set GRAMPSDIR : /usr/share/gramps PYTHONPATH: /usr/share/gramps /usr/lib/python27.zip /usr/lib64/python2.7 /usr/lib64/python2.7/plat-linux2 /usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-tk /usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-old /usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-dynload /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages /usr/local/lib64/python2.7/site-packages /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/gst-0.10 /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0 /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg-info Non-python dependencies: ------------------------ Graphviz : dot - graphviz version 2.28.0 (20120716.1447) Ghostscr. : 9.05 System PATH env variable: ------------------------- /usr/local/bin /usr/bin /bin /usr/bin/X11 /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/games /opt/kde3/bin ________________________________ Da: Doug Blank <dou...@gm...> A: manuel muzzurru <man...@ya...> Cc: "gra...@li..." <gra...@li...> Inviato: Martedì 20 Novembre 2012 18:35 Oggetto: Re: [Gramps-users] CSV DATABASE, recovery to gramps If I understand you correctly, you would like to import data via CSV that it doesn't currently support. Do you have a list of fields that you would like supported? -Doug On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM, <man...@ya...> wrote: hello > >i'm back, i have free time for recovery data from navweb to gramps, turn on! >but i use CSV, it's easy to use and recovery, use with libreoffice CALC >but i need database CSV for GRAMPS: >example >surname, family, name, birthday, death, etc... >i wanted list all data csv for gramps, i have column (sheet) name Parents, partner, this are created from NAVWEB.. but parents and partner is work import csv into gramps? > >but sheet for parents: there are all names male and surnames male and names female and surnames female, but hard to task for gramps used [I0000] and [F0000] this is very very hard time for process... there is other way easy? > >my old mailist: >http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=CAAusYCj9Ovx-HO_L4m71oAjbfC32z5UkFTpFim3P5WXoi6MgwA%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=gramps-users > >thank you > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single >web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, >SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. >Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! >http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov >_______________________________________________ >Gramps-users mailing list >Gra...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > |
From: Peter H. <gr...@he...> - 2012-11-21 04:41:54
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:21:08 man...@ya... wrote: > hello > i'm finish to convert with my hand and mouse.. it's long hard!! > then now i wanted to try navweb but there is problem... > my database gramps 222 peoples, but navweb is problem serious: 30 peoples > not all 222..why? Gramps 3.4.2-1 On the narrated website dialog box, with "report options" tab check the filter option. This is a pull down menu, please check that it is selected to "entire database". HTH Peter |
From: Enno B. <enn...@gm...> - 2012-11-26 14:08:49
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Hi, Yes, Gramps 3.4.x has also backup as option for export. It equals the Gramps xml option without the questions on filtering. Note that you must backup your media files (pictures, ...) separately then. Huh? In my copy of Gramps 3.4.2, backup has two options: 1. with media to .gpkg 2. without to .gramps With 1 as the default, it looks like this is all one needs to do. I haven't fully tested it though. cheers, Enno |
From: Peter H. <gr...@he...> - 2012-11-21 04:51:36
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:41:34 Peter Hewett wrote: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:21:08 man...@ya... wrote: > > hello > > i'm finish to convert with my hand and mouse.. it's long hard!! > > then now i wanted to try navweb but there is problem... > > my database gramps 222 peoples, but navweb is problem serious: 30 peoples > > not all 222..why? Gramps 3.4.2-1 > > On the narrated website dialog box, with "report options" tab check the > filter option. This is a pull down menu, please check that it is selected > to "entire database". And, on the privacy tab, check that the living people filter is set to "include" and the "include records marked private" option is not checked (if that is what you want) |
From: <man...@ya...> - 2012-11-25 11:36:16
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hello i wanted to ask you for precise information: what is BEST and SURE for SAVE long time and future from GRAMPS? for now gramps have many file export: -gramps grdb -GEDCOM -Gramps XML -Gramps Package -GW -WFT -vCard -vCalendar -CSV i wanted not lost data or information for my genealogical tree... |
From: Peter L. <pet...@te...> - 2012-11-25 16:20:26
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Hi, I use the bacup function, which is a complete XML copy of your database. /Peter man...@ya... skrev 2012-11-25 12:36: > hello > > i wanted to ask you for precise information: > > what is BEST and SURE for SAVE long time and future from GRAMPS? > for now gramps have many file export: > > -gramps grdb > -GEDCOM > -Gramps XML > -Gramps Package > -GW > -WFT > -vCard > -vCalendar > -CSV > > i wanted not lost data or information for my genealogical tree... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > > > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
From: Tim L. <guy...@gm...> - 2012-11-25 18:34:33
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I use [--?--] for unknown given names and surnames. I saw this somewhere in some genealogy mailing list, and have used it since. It has the merit that it is entirely distinguishable from some text string or from just ?, which could be accidental. -- View this message in context: http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/Unknown-or-no-surname-tp4657374p4657430.html Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2012-11-26 09:09:13
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2012/11/25 Peter Landgren <pet...@te...> > Hi, > > I use the bacup function, which is a complete XML copy of your database. > Yes, Gramps 3.4.x has also backup as option for export. It equals the Gramps xml option without the questions on filtering. Note that you must backup your media files (pictures, ...) separately then. Benny > > /Peter > > man...@ya... skrev 2012-11-25 12:36: > > hello > > i wanted to ask you for precise information: > > what is BEST and SURE for SAVE long time and future from GRAMPS? > for now gramps have many file export: > > -gramps grdb > -GEDCOM > -Gramps XML > -Gramps Package > -GW > -WFT > -vCard > -vCalendar > -CSV > > i wanted not lost data or information for my genealogical tree... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications!http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing lis...@li...https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > |
From: <man...@ya...> - 2012-11-26 13:52:56
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hello then i will save ever times file format Gramps xml with media files, this is sure (not lost any data ok?) ? ________________________________ Da: Benny Malengier <ben...@gm...> A: Peter Landgren <pet...@te...> Cc: Manuel Muzzurru <man...@ya...>; "gra...@li..." <gra...@li...> Inviato: Lunedì 26 Novembre 2012 10:09 Oggetto: Re: [Gramps-users] what is SURE/BEST save file format? 2012/11/25 Peter Landgren <pet...@te...> Hi, > >I use the bacup function, which is a complete XML copy of your database. > Yes, Gramps 3.4.x has also backup as option for export. It equals the Gramps xml option without the questions on filtering. Note that you must backup your media files (pictures, ...) separately then. Benny >/Peter > >man...@ya... skrev 2012-11-25 12:36: > >hello >> >>i wanted to ask you for precise information: >> >>what is BEST and SURE for SAVE long time and future from GRAMPS? >>for now gramps have many file export: >> >>-gramps grdb >>-GEDCOM >>-Gramps XML >>-Gramps Package >>-GW >>-WFT >>-vCard >>-vCalendar >>-CSV >> >>i wanted not lost data or information for my genealogical tree... >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov >> >> >>_______________________________________________ Gramps-users mailing list Gra...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single >web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, >SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. >Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! >http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov >_______________________________________________ >Gramps-users mailing list >Gra...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > |