From: Alex R. <sh...@gr...> - 2006-10-24 16:33:38
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> > > I have to say I don't understand the goal. > > > What do you want to do? > > I saw a branch of my family doesn't move of their town since 1600. > > So, I'm trying to create a gramps file with all the events of a film ar= chive of this town. > > This archive is between 1640-1670 and contains all the birth during thi= s period. > > I want to be able to share this archive when it will be finished and I = want no event is missing. > > My problem is these kind of event I found : > > One event for the birth and decease ! I think it is very rare but it ex= ists. > > >=20 > > > > So I trid to create a new event and in the ID of the new event I pu= t the ID of the already created event. I understand that you have this document that documents both events. This does not mean it is a single event though, does it? It's a source, and both events should refer to that source. I am still not sure what do you are trying to do. There's birth and there's death. If you have a document that contains both, this does not mean that birth and death are the same event. Why would you want two events with the same ID? Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://www.gramps-project.org |
From: <rom...@ya...> - 2006-10-26 10:18:53
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Le/The Mardi 24 Octobre 2006 18:33, Alex Roitman a écrit/wrote : > > > > I have to say I don't understand the goal. > > > > What do you want to do? > > > I saw a branch of my family doesn't move of their town since 1600. > > > So, I'm trying to create a gramps file with all the events of a film archive of this town. > > > This archive is between 1640-1670 and contains all the birth during this period. > > > I want to be able to share this archive when it will be finished and I want no event is missing. > > > My problem is these kind of event I found : > > > One event for the birth and decease ! I think it is very rare but it exists. > > > > > > > > > So I trid to create a new event and in the ID of the new event I put the ID of the already created event. > > I understand that you have this document that documents both events. > This does not mean it is a single event though, does it? > It's a source, and both events should refer to that source. > > I am still not sure what do you are trying to do. > There's birth and there's death. If you have a document > that contains both, this does not mean that birth and death > are the same event. Why would you want two events with the > same ID? I think I should have One ID. This event says : "He receive the two ceremonies" which means he was born and deceased. So this event is about baptism and death. I send you the image of this event but it's in old french. I think I must create two events even if I have only one really. it's not very clean, but it works. It's a very rare kind of event, so I don't think it is necessary to implement a sharable event for birth and death. > > Alex > ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com |
From: Gerald B. <ger...@gm...> - 2006-10-26 11:32:47
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There are in fact two events: a birth and a death. Events are sharable between people and families, but not with other events. (Doesn't make sense really) The right approach is to record two events, which share the same source information and, coincidentally, the date (in your case) On 10/26/06, J=E9r=F4me <rom...@ya...> wrote: > Le/The Mardi 24 Octobre 2006 18:33, Alex Roitman a =E9crit/wrote : > > > > > I have to say I don't understand the goal. > > > > > What do you want to do? > > > > I saw a branch of my family doesn't move of their town since 1600. > > > > So, I'm trying to create a gramps file with all the events of a fil= m archive of this town. > > > > This archive is between 1640-1670 and contains all the birth during= this period. > > > > I want to be able to share this archive when it will be finished an= d I want no event is missing. > > > > My problem is these kind of event I found : > > > > One event for the birth and decease ! I think it is very rare but i= t exists. > > > > > > > > > > > So I trid to create a new event and in the ID of the new event = I put the ID of the already created event. > > > > I understand that you have this document that documents both events. > > This does not mean it is a single event though, does it? > > It's a source, and both events should refer to that source. > > > > I am still not sure what do you are trying to do. > > There's birth and there's death. If you have a document > > that contains both, this does not mean that birth and death > > are the same event. Why would you want two events with the > > same ID? > I think I should have One ID. This event says : > "He receive the two ceremonies" which means he was born and deceased. > So this event is about baptism and death. > I send you the image of this event but it's in old french. > > I think I must create two events even if I have only one really. > it's not very clean, but it works. > It's a very rare kind of event, so I don't think it is necessary to > implement > a sharable event for birth and death. > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________= __ > Yahoo! Mail r=E9invente le mail ! D=E9couvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et s= on interface r=E9volutionnaire. > http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job ea= sier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronim= o > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat= =3D121642 > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-devel mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel > |
From: Alex R. <sh...@gr...> - 2006-10-27 06:35:55
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On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 12:22 +0200, J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me wrote: > > > > One event for the birth and decease ! I think it is very rare but i= t exists. > >=20 > > I am still not sure what do you are trying to do. > > There's birth and there's death. If you have a document > > that contains both, this does not mean that birth and death > > are the same event. Why would you want two events with the > > same ID? > I think I should have One ID. This event says : > "He receive the two ceremonies" which means he was born and deceased. > So this event is about baptism and death. > I send you the image of this event but it's in old french. >=20 > I think I must create two events even if I have only one really. > it's not very clean, but it works. > It's a very rare kind of event, so I don't think it is necessary to=20 > implement > a sharable event for birth and death. I agree with Jerome and Gerald: these are two events, at least as far as GRAMPS is concerned. So let's leave it at that. Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://www.gramps-project.org |
From: Brian P. <bp...@fe...> - 2007-01-20 02:10:30
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> On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 01:57 +0100, Piotr Czubaszek wrote: > > It has been discussed before that Fedora does indeed offer the current > > version of GRAMPS but only in the Fedora Extras development (so called > > fc7) repository. This still works well with fc6 and may be downloaded > > manually. > >=20 > > More info here: http://developers.gramps-project.org/tiki-index.php?pag= e=3DFedora > > - this page is linked from the download page so if unsure everyone > > should go there. >=20 Yikes, I would not have users rebuild the srpm as root as described on the wiki. A better solution would be to have the users: 1. Grab the gramps srpm from the development branch (A). 2. Install the rpmdevtools package, which is in the Fedora repos. 3. Run 'rpmdev-setuptree', which will create the 'rpmbuild/' tree in the users home directory, instead of using 'usr/src/redhat' 4. Then the user should simply need to run 'rpmbuild --rebuild foo.src.rpm'. This assumes the user has all the necessary BuildRequirements(B). 5. To install this resultant rpm, the user should be able to just run: su -c 'yum localinstall ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/noarch/foo.noarch.rpm' A. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/developme= nt/SRPMS/gramps-2.2.4-3.fc7.src.rpm B. In addition to the normal build tools, these additional packages are needed to build the rpm: desktop-file-utils, gettext, perl-XML-Parser, gnome-python2-canvas, gnome-python2-gconf, gnome-vfs2-devel, pygtk2-libglade, python-devel, scrollkeeper, and gnome-doc-utils Later, /B --=20 Brian Pepple <bp...@fe...> gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E |
From: Glenn M. <gra...@op...> - 2007-01-20 03:15:43
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Brian Pepple wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 01:57 +0100, Piotr Czubaszek wrote: > > > It has been discussed before that Fedora does indeed offer the current > > > version of GRAMPS but only in the Fedora Extras development (so called > > > fc7) repository. This still works well with fc6 and may be downloaded > > > manually. > > > > > > More info here: http://developers.gramps-project.org/tiki-index.php?page=Fedora > > > - this page is linked from the download page so if unsure everyone > > > should go there. > > > > Yikes, I would not have users rebuild the srpm as root as described on > the wiki. Duly noted, and the wiki has been updated. Thanks. > A better solution would be to have the users: > 1. Grab the gramps srpm from the development branch (A). > 2. Install the rpmdevtools package, which is in the Fedora repos. > 3. Run 'rpmdev-setuptree', which will create the 'rpmbuild/' tree > in the users home directory, instead of using 'usr/src/redhat' > 4. Then the user should simply need to run 'rpmbuild --rebuild > foo.src.rpm'. This assumes the user has all the necessary > BuildRequirements(B). > 5. To install this resultant rpm, the user should be able to just > run: su -c 'yum localinstall > ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/noarch/foo.noarch.rpm' > > A. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/development/SRPMS/gramps-2.2.4-3.fc7.src.rpm > B. In addition to the normal build tools, these additional packages > are needed to build the rpm: desktop-file-utils, gettext, > perl-XML-Parser, gnome-python2-canvas, gnome-python2-gconf, > gnome-vfs2-devel, pygtk2-libglade, python-devel, scrollkeeper, > and gnome-doc-utils > -- Cheers Glenn SCO delenda est |
From: <ste...@gm...> - 2007-10-11 06:05:20
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Thanks for the command hints, Benny. And thanks for fixing up the errors, Bernard. I've checked in your most recent changes into the 2.2.x branch: Sending configure.in Sending po/ChangeLog Sending po/sl.po Transmitting file data ... Committed revision 9132. Guys -- should I also be checking in this new language directly into trunk, or does it need to be modified before going into 3.x? I assume many strings wont match if I simply check it as-is into 3.0. We're OK with this at this stage, right? St=E9phane |
From: <rom...@ya...> - 2007-10-11 06:42:33
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Stephane, there is no up-to-date gramps.pot "POT-Creation-Date: 2007-07-04 22:59-0700" $ make gramps.pot on /po > I assume many strings wont match if I simply check it as-is into 3.0. We're OK with this at this stage, right? right There is something about 400 strings diff between versions. Some will be removed/updated but most are new strings. Also, seems that some people are working on translation with launchpad: https://translations.launchpad.net/gramps/head/+pots/gramps I agree with Don, most don't practice genealogy and translations seems to ignore context. I commited french translation for having a return and have an access. If you want, I can try to merge data on some existing translations with Translation Memory (TM). To keep gramps strings and mark "fuzzy" translations from launchpad. Stéphane Charette a écrit : > Thanks for the command hints, Benny. > > And thanks for fixing up the errors, Bernard. I've checked in your > most recent changes into the 2.2.x branch: > > > Sending configure.in > Sending po/ChangeLog > Sending po/sl.po > Transmitting file data ... > Committed revision 9132. > > > Guys -- should I also be checking in this new language directly into > trunk, or does it need to be modified before going into 3.x? I assume > many strings wont match if I simply check it as-is into 3.0. We're OK > with this at this stage, right? > > Stéphane > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-devel mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel > |
From: <ste...@gm...> - 2007-10-11 06:53:23
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> there is no up-to-date gramps.pot > "POT-Creation-Date: 2007-07-04 22:59-0700" > > $ make gramps.pot on /po Done. $ svn commit -m "rebuilt gramps.pot" po/ChangeLog po/gramps.pot Sending po/ChangeLog Sending po/gramps.pot Transmitting file data .. Committed revision 9135. Can someone off-line explain to me why this doesn't get built as part of the standard build process? Sorry, I'm new to the whole .po translation system... Also: does the gramps.pot file in help/ need to be rebuilt as well? I checked in a new version of help/de/de.po tonight, but I'm not certain if something else needs to be rebuilt and checked in. St=E9phane |
From: <rom...@ya...> - 2007-10-11 06:58:25
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> Also: does the gramps.pot file in help/ need to be rebuilt as well? > I checked in a new version of help/de/de.po tonight, but I'm not > certain if something else needs to be rebuilt and checked in. Seems to be OK. I generated a new template after minors modifications on C/gramps.xml But seems gramps.xml files was generated for each languages and added on release sources. Stéphane Charette a écrit : >> there is no up-to-date gramps.pot >> "POT-Creation-Date: 2007-07-04 22:59-0700" >> >> $ make gramps.pot on /po > > > Done. > > > $ svn commit -m "rebuilt gramps.pot" po/ChangeLog po/gramps.pot > Sending po/ChangeLog > Sending po/gramps.pot > Transmitting file data .. > Committed revision 9135. > > Can someone off-line explain to me why this doesn't get built as part > of the standard build process? Sorry, I'm new to the whole .po > translation system... > > Also: does the gramps.pot file in help/ need to be rebuilt as well? > I checked in a new version of help/de/de.po tonight, but I'm not > certain if something else needs to be rebuilt and checked in. > > Stéphane > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-devel mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel > |
From: <bm...@ca...> - 2007-10-11 07:21:44
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Quoting St=E9phane Charette <ste...@gm...>: > Thanks for the command hints, Benny. > > And thanks for fixing up the errors, Bernard. I've checked in your > most recent changes into the 2.2.x branch: > > > Sending configure.in > Sending po/ChangeLog > Sending po/sl.po > Transmitting file data ... > Committed revision 9132. > > > Guys -- should I also be checking in this new language directly into > trunk, or does it need to be modified before going into 3.x? I assume > many strings wont match if I simply check it as-is into 3.0. We're OK > with this at this stage, right? Yes, check in to trunk to. It will be the starting point of a 3.0 translati= on. When translator does merge, the not needed strings will be discarded. As you updated gramps.pot, perhaps you should repeat the call for translations, noting the gramps.pot was out of date. Benny > > St=E9phane > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-devel mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. |