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Hi,

I implemented a preliminary version of sample loop extending. It's in
CVS. It's not quite done, but should be completed shortly.

Have fun,
-Richard

At the moment I've got less time, but richard please see bug @ livna.org.
http://bugzilla.livna.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367
#7

Hi,

Yet another Track by djmons :)

Available at:

http://ggseq.sourceforge.net/pmwiki.php/Main/Music

-Richard

Am Mittwoch, den 08.06.2005, 23:16 +0100 schrieb nigel henry:
> Hi Richard. thanks for uploading my "tune" . I'm trying to finish off the=
 next=20
> one. "second one's not so easy" . Just a query on the static binary updat=
e.=20
> Should I run the uninstall script for the 0.3.0 version before I run the=20
> install script for the 0.3.1 version?

It shouldn't make a difference, but to be sure, run it :)

>  Also. Does the windows .exe version=20
> automatically overwrite the previously installed version?=20

No, it get's installed into a different directory as far as I know.

-Richard

Hi Richard. thanks for uploading my "tune" . I'm trying to finish off the next 
one. "second one's not so easy" . Just a query on the static binary update. 
Should I run the uninstall script for the 0.3.0 version before I run the 
install script for the 0.3.1 version? Also. Does the windows .exe version 
automatically overwrite the previously installed version? 

On Wednesday 08 Jun 2005 2:05 pm, Richard Spindler wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> Version 0.3.1 is available :)
>
> No new features, just the mentioned fix.
>
> Have fun, and be sure to check out djmons track form the Music Page:
> http://ggseq.sourceforge.net/pmwiki.php/Main/Music
>
>
> -Richard

Hi,

Version 0.3.1 is available :)

No new features, just the mentioned fix.

Have fun, and be sure to check out djmons track form the Music Page:
http://ggseq.sourceforge.net/pmwiki.php/Main/Music

-Richard

Hi,

I silently uploaded djmons track, you'll find it in the "Music" section. I 
planned to announce 0.3.1 as well, because It fixes the issue mentioned in 
the list. However I messed with the sourceforge file release system, and now 
I have to wait for 24 hours 'till it purges my broken file :(

Anyway, it's all ready and packed to go, and I'll start another attempt 
tomorrow :)

In other news, I'm trying to streamline my release process using tools like 
quick_release and freshmit, has anyone experience with these?

-Richard

hi

> > Any chance of a bit of website space to upload our tunes to, so that newb=
> ies=20
> > can hear what can be done with the app?
> {
> That's a great idea, I will happily upload some cool tracks to the
> Sourceforge Webspace, if you send me some :)

that really is a good idea, since i so can't be bothered to google for
free samples.

michael
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Am Mittwoch, den 01.06.2005, 22:43 +0100 schrieb nigel henry:
> Hi Richard. I've uploaded the exported zip file, the .ogg and a bit of te=
xt=20
> about me to your site. Many thanks for arranging the shell account. If yo=
u=20
> can label me as djmons as the artist I'd be gratefull. I'm now working on=
 the=20
> next track. I'll try to make it shorter, 14.7MB takes ages to upload. lol=
.=20
> Nigel.

Hi,

thanks, for the track, it's great :)

Unfortunately (or better fortunately ;) )it revealed a bug in ggseq,
because depending on the Language settings a number is sometimes stored
as 0,0001 and sometimes as 0.0001 (notice the different decimal
separator), this screws up the file-format and therefore I couldn't load
your file initially.
I'll try to fix it as fast as possible, and upload a new version.

I'll upload your Track as soon as the fixed ggseq is available :)

-Richard

PS.: I'm CCing the mailinglist

Am Dienstag, den 31.05.2005, 23:44 +0100 schrieb nigel henry:
> Hi. I've only just started working with gungirl, and have spent most of t=
he=20
> day throwing together a little trance type tune with royalty free drum, b=
ass,=20
> and synth loop samples, with a couple of fx ones.
>=20
> Suggestions:
> It would be nice to have a timer on the interface, showing realtime for y=
our=20
> musical creations.
> It would be nice also to export to a file in .ogg format, for the sake of=
=20
> those who don't yet have gungirl and would like to hear you're music.

Hi,
you can export to WAV Format, which can be easily encoded to ogg using
oggenc :)

> Any chance of a bit of website space to upload our tunes to, so that newb=
ies=20
> can hear what can be done with the app?

That's a great idea, I will happily upload some cool tracks to the
Sourceforge Webspace, if you send me some :)

-Richard

Hi. I've only just started working with gungirl, and have spent most of the 
day throwing together a little trance type tune with royalty free drum, bass, 
and synth loop samples, with a couple of fx ones.

Suggestions:
It would be nice to have a timer on the interface, showing realtime for your 
musical creations.
It would be nice also to export to a file in .ogg format, for the sake of 
those who don't yet have gungirl and would like to hear you're music.
Any chance of a bit of website space to upload our tunes to, so that newbies 
can hear what can be done with the app?

Gungirl: static binary version, installed on FC2
Kernel: 2.6.10-4.rdt.rhfc2.ccrma
Alsa version: 1.0.8
Soundcard: Audigy2 soundblaster (emu10k1 driver)

All feedback, website space offers, etc, welcome. Nigel.

Am Montag, den 30.05.2005, 00:06 +0100 schrieb nigel henry:
> Hi Richard. I think this supposed problem is my own fault. I hadn't
> realised=20
> that the file icon had to be dragged, and placed on the separator
> between the=20
> two tracks so as to be loaded onto the upper track. Sorry about that.
> Doh. At=20
> least it confirms that it works on FC2.=20

Well, the "active area" of the drag icon is the mouse cursor arrow, it
will be dropped wherever it points. :)

-Richard

On Sunday 29 May 2005 10:08 pm, Richard Spindler wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 29.05.2005, 21:28 +0100 schrieb nigel henry:
> > Hi . I have installed ggseq-0.3.0-i386 static binary on FC2. I had to put
> > portaudio-18.1-1.2.fc2.dag  on the machine, installed by apt-get from
> > dags repo. wxGTK-2.4.2-1.rhfc2.ccrma was already on, and had been
> > installed when I put audacity on. libsamplerate.so.0.1.0,
> > libsndfile.so.1.0.11 and gtk+-1.2.10-29.1.1 are  all on the machine.
> > Kernel version:
> > 2.6.10-0.4.rdt.rhfc2.ccrma.
>
> Hi,
>
> I tried to reproduce the problem, but on my machine everything works as
> expected.
> Actually, it shouldn't even be necessary to install all the
> dependencies, because they're included in the binary.
> Maybe this is an issue with the version of gtk you're using, but I'm not
> quite sure.
> Can you compile the source-code and check if it works with this?
>
> -Richard

Hi Richard. I think this supposed problem is my own fault. I hadn't realised 
that the file icon had to be dragged, and placed on the separator between the 
two tracks so as to be loaded onto the upper track. Sorry about that. Doh. At 
least it confirms that it works on FC2. 

I'll try it out on FC1,  MDK10.0, Slackware 10.0 (with the source-code 
install), and Debian sarge if I can manage to build the source-code into a 
deb package, unless it will run off the shell script in the static binary on 
Debian. 

Apologies again for the error. Nigel.

>
> > GUI opens ok, can access soundfiles ok in left hand panel, the individual
> > directories open up ok in the bottom right window, displaying  the .wavs
> > from the directory. Double clicking on the samples plays them ok.
> >
> > Problem: Cannot load samples onto a track. I can drag the sample up to
> > the track, but releasing the mouse loses the sample. It just disappears.
> > They are all small samples, single drum hits, synth sweeps, and stuff
> > like that.
> >
> > Any suggestions appreciated. Nigel.
> >
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Am Sonntag, den 29.05.2005, 21:28 +0100 schrieb nigel henry:
> Hi . I have installed ggseq-0.3.0-i386 static binary on FC2. I had to put=
=20
> portaudio-18.1-1.2.fc2.dag  on the machine, installed by apt-get from dag=
s=20
> repo. wxGTK-2.4.2-1.rhfc2.ccrma was already on, and had been installed wh=
en I=20
> put audacity on. libsamplerate.so.0.1.0, libsndfile.so.1.0.11 and=20
> gtk+-1.2.10-29.1.1 are  all on the machine. Kernel version:=20
> 2.6.10-0.4.rdt.rhfc2.ccrma.

Hi,

I tried to reproduce the problem, but on my machine everything works as
expected.
Actually, it shouldn't even be necessary to install all the
dependencies, because they're included in the binary.
Maybe this is an issue with the version of gtk you're using, but I'm not
quite sure.
Can you compile the source-code and check if it works with this?

-Richard

>=20
> GUI opens ok, can access soundfiles ok in left hand panel, the individual=
=20
> directories open up ok in the bottom right window, displaying  the .wavs =
from=20
> the directory. Double clicking on the samples plays them ok.
>=20
> Problem: Cannot load samples onto a track. I can drag the sample up to th=
e=20
> track, but releasing the mouse loses the sample. It just disappears. They=
 are=20
> all small samples, single drum hits, synth sweeps, and stuff like that.
>=20
> Any suggestions appreciated. Nigel.
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Hi Richard. .wav file attached as requested.

On Sunday 29 May 2005 8:42 pm, Richard Spindler wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 29.05.2005, 21:28 +0100 schrieb nigel henry:
> > Problem: Cannot load samples onto a track. I can drag the sample up to
> > the track, but releasing the mouse loses the sample. It just disappears.
> > They are all small samples, single drum hits, synth sweeps, and stuff
> > like that.
>
> Can you send me such a file?
>
> -Richard
>
>
>
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Am Sonntag, den 29.05.2005, 21:28 +0100 schrieb nigel henry:
> Problem: Cannot load samples onto a track. I can drag the sample up to the 
> track, but releasing the mouse loses the sample. It just disappears. They are 
> all small samples, single drum hits, synth sweeps, and stuff like that.

Can you send me such a file?

-Richard

Hi . I have installed ggseq-0.3.0-i386 static binary on FC2. I had to put 
portaudio-18.1-1.2.fc2.dag  on the machine, installed by apt-get from dags 
repo. wxGTK-2.4.2-1.rhfc2.ccrma was already on, and had been installed when I 
put audacity on. libsamplerate.so.0.1.0, libsndfile.so.1.0.11 and 
gtk+-1.2.10-29.1.1 are  all on the machine. Kernel version: 
2.6.10-0.4.rdt.rhfc2.ccrma.

GUI opens ok, can access soundfiles ok in left hand panel, the individual 
directories open up ok in the bottom right window, displaying  the .wavs from 
the directory. Double clicking on the samples plays them ok.

Problem: Cannot load samples onto a track. I can drag the sample up to the 
track, but releasing the mouse loses the sample. It just disappears. They are 
all small samples, single drum hits, synth sweeps, and stuff like that.

Any suggestions appreciated. Nigel.

Hi,

Gungirl Sequencer Version 0.3.0 is ready,
and it comes with an impressive set of new
features:

 - Automations, Fade-in, Fade-Out
 - Unlimited Undo
 - Sample Stretching and Trimming
 - Unlimited Number of Tracks
 - Zip-Packages of Songs
 - Looping

About ggseq:

It's a simple Audio-Sequencer designed for arranging
small Sound-Loops, as available on CD from various
Producers. It's not a general Purpose Sound Editor, it
has no support for large audiofiles. It doesn't do
MIDI.

It's a fun toy, for people new to electronic
music-making.

It's available from the Gungirl Sequencer Homepage at:

  http://ggseq.sourceforge.net/

There is a source tarball that requires the following
dependencies:
  - wxGTK 2.4.x          or later
  - libsndfile 1.0.0     or later
  - libsamplerate 0.0.15 or later

There is a statically linked binary release that should
run on most recent Version of the GNU/Linux OS,
provided GTK+ is installed.

And there is a win32 Installer.

Have fun

-Richard Spindler   <richard.spindler AT gmail.com>

Am Sonntag, den 08.05.2005, 19:54 +0200 schrieb Krzysztof Stachowiak:
> Richard Spindler wrote:
>=20
> >http://ggseq.sourceforge.net/prereleases/ggseq-0.3.0-rc4.exe
> >
> >-Richard
> > =20
> >
> When I drag a file of unsuported type into the timescale, the sequencer=20
> generates an error message and does nothing; and thats cool. But when I=20
> doubleclick the file as if I wanted to hear its "preview" the=20
> application treminates generating default mswindows error message :(

That's a bug, I'll fix it :)

> Besides these remarks, the sequencer is enough for my needs. Simple and=20
> effective, almoust genius ;) Good Work!

Thanks :)

-Richard

Richard Spindler wrote:

>http://ggseq.sourceforge.net/prereleases/ggseq-0.3.0-rc4.exe
>
>-Richard
>  
>
When I drag a file of unsuported type into the timescale, the sequencer 
generates an error message and does nothing; and thats cool. But when I 
doubleclick the file as if I wanted to hear its "preview" the 
application treminates generating default mswindows error message :(
Yeah, I know, I shoudn't try to listen to e.g. txt files ( :P ) but I 
often store lyrics or project packages in the same directory with 
samples and I may simply missclick the file...

What I would like to see in future releases are:
- samples snapping to each other. now I use 0.10 s. timescale, but I 
think it is not precise enough.
- labeled time markers that samples snap to.
- more freedom in zooming (mouse roller support for this issue would be 
just more than lovely ;)).

Besides these remarks, the sequencer is enough for my needs. Simple and 
effective, almoust genius ;) Good Work!

http://ggseq.sourceforge.net/prereleases/ggseq-0.3.0-rc4.exe

-Richard

Hi,

Release Candidate 4 is available, as linux binary and as source tarball

http://ggseq.sourceforge.net/prereleases/ggseq-0.3.0-i386-rc4.tar.gz

http://ggseq.sourceforge.net/prereleases/ggseq-0.3.0-rc4.tar.gz

-Richard

Am Sonntag, den 08.05.2005, 20:50 +1000 schrieb Michael Salcher:
> -when i click on the above mentioned button, while loading is in
> progress, the application terminates with 'segmentation fault'

I couldn't reproduce this one. It should cancel the loading of the file.
Can you try again

-Richard

Am Sonntag, den 08.05.2005, 20:50 +1000 schrieb Michael Salcher:
> - when choosing from the menu 'file' - 'import package' and clicking
> 'ok' without entering a filename, ggseq displays an error dialog but
> then my computers cpu usage goes up and all memory is used up, ggseq
> doesn't respond anymore and needs to be killed.

Bug

> -when enveloping a segment on a track, i can only see 4 envelope points.
> the one in the middle overlaps with another one. when i drag the one in
> the middle to the left or the right, the envelope point lying
> underneath, becomes visible.

That's by Design :)

> -when i doubleclick a file in the window which displays the files in a
> directory, a loading bar appears and to left of that bar a button
> appears. i cannot read the label on the button, since the bottom half of
> the button does not get displayed.

Bug, probably. It says "Cancel"=20

> -when i click on the above mentioned button, while loading is in
> progress, the application terminates with 'segmentation fault'

Bug

> -should there be a button to set the 'timeline location line' to the
> start? it's is not very smooth having to click so close the the volume
> buttons to get it to go to the start.

There is one, it's in the toolbar, and it's called Rewind

> -should i be able to right click on a segment in the timeline to bring
> up a context menu which contains 'edit sample' and 'envelope'? i think
> it would the natural thing to do, instead of having to click on the tiny
> button at the end of a segment. i know that you are copying a sample
> with a rightclick, but couldn't you display a context menu if let's say
> the mouse does not move out of the segment and the button is released?

I'll think about this. Although I like it the way it is. It's not
perfect, but at least it works.

> -dragging the 36.4 mb wav file onto the timeline takes a long time. my
> memory get's totally filled up, get's cleared and goes up to half full
> again (that's on 256 mb of ram).

That's indeed a problem, although it's not Gungirl's objective to work
with large files.

> -displaying the 'edit sample' window takes a long time.

Well, see above.

> -the controlls for editing the sample hardly move (i suppose that's due
> to the big file).
>=20
> -time streching the sample makes cpu and ram usage go up to the top, and
> it takes a long time. i eventually killed the application.

-Richard

hi

i used the statically link version you posted on this list with ubuntu
warty. since i didn't have any small wav sample files availabe, i used a
36.4 mb wav file for all testing. i do realize that ggseq is probably
not made to handle such large files, but i still want to report how i
went:

- when choosing from the menu 'file' - 'import package' and clicking
'ok' without entering a filename, ggseq displays an error dialog but
then my computers cpu usage goes up and all memory is used up, ggseq
doesn't respond anymore and needs to be killed.

-when enveloping a segment on a track, i can only see 4 envelope points.
the one in the middle overlaps with another one. when i drag the one in
the middle to the left or the right, the envelope point lying
underneath, becomes visible.

-when i doubleclick a file in the window which displays the files in a
directory, a loading bar appears and to left of that bar a button
appears. i cannot read the label on the button, since the bottom half of
the button does not get displayed.

-when i click on the above mentioned button, while loading is in
progress, the application terminates with 'segmentation fault'

-should there be a button to set the 'timeline location line' to the
start? it's is not very smooth having to click so close the the volume
buttons to get it to go to the start.

-should i be able to right click on a segment in the timeline to bring
up a context menu which contains 'edit sample' and 'envelope'? i think
it would the natural thing to do, instead of having to click on the tiny
button at the end of a segment. i know that you are copying a sample
with a rightclick, but couldn't you display a context menu if let's say
the mouse does not move out of the segment and the button is released?

-dragging the 36.4 mb wav file onto the timeline takes a long time. my
memory get's totally filled up, get's cleared and goes up to half full
again (that's on 256 mb of ram).

-displaying the 'edit sample' window takes a long time.

-the controlls for editing the sample hardly move (i suppose that's due
to the big file).

-time streching the sample makes cpu and ram usage go up to the top, and
it takes a long time. i eventually killed the application.

michael salcher
-- 
email: mic...@gm...
website: http://propirate.net/mike/

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