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From: Maciej M. <azn...@gm...> - 2022-04-20 11:25:11
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Just curious, are the any other things we can not compile into fluxbox besides what is shown after "./configure --help"? For me personally this flexibility is strong attribute of Fluxbox as I do not compile in parts I do not need. Would love not to compile in window tabbing but as far as I know it is not possible. Or maybe I am wrong and there is a way? Anyone? |
From: Peter P. <pet...@fa...> - 2022-04-19 20:45:58
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Hi list, occasionaly at resuming my laptop from suspend, fluxbox will not react and shows 100% CPU at one of my four cores. I have to force-reboot the computer with its power button. This happens once every 20 or so times when resuming. How can I go about debugging this further? Keeping a fluxbox log per its startup file in -log "/home/me/.fluxbox/log" does not produce any output when the above condition is triggered. Thank you in advance for any help, this is a super annoying problem and I am happy for any advice here! cheers, P |
From: LinAdmin <lin...@qu...> - 2022-02-15 10:19:48
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Many years ago I had suggested to add two buttons to the window bar for placing and sizing the window to the left and right half of the screen. This soon has been implemented and from then on we do happily use it on many workstations. I always wondered why the Features page (http://fluxbox.org/features/) did not mention that very useful feature and that it is not activated as default in the init file: session.screen0.titlebar.right: Minimize LHalf RHalf Maximize Close I offer to amend the web pages accordingly. In case you are interested pleas let me know how to proceed. Regards from Switzerland LinAdmin |
From: D.T. <ohn...@po...> - 2022-02-14 08:31:25
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On Mon, 2022-02-14 at 07:34 +0000, Peter wrote: > I don't get on with tiling window managers, they are just too much > work and too intrusive. I agree. Never got on with the idea that I'm not in control of the window size (and many apps don't like it either). That said, I love to have manual tiling capabilites, i.e. keybord shortcuts that will resize a window to exactly 1/2 or 1/4 of screen size, move it to the left/right/up/down, maximise etc. I hate grabbing windows with the mouse to move them around, or resize them. That and workspaces, is all I need for a good workflow. > I thought Gnome 3 and Cinammon were disasters. Yeah. The good old Windows XP paradigm of Gnome 2 was - well, good enough, but it seems the devs always want to keep up with current development to appeal to the masses, but forget to make it stable and immutable enough (because that's the nature of Linux, that you can change everything) to be "like Windows". That said, plenty of alternatives exist. |
From: Peter<pet...@gm...> - 2022-02-14 07:34:21
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Mark, I am on Debian with lightdm as the display manager, gmrun as the launcher. I don't think which distro it is matters, Fluxbox is going to work fine on any of them. I don't think you have to worry about stability either, I have several window managers installed, you just pick whichever you wish to start from, the lightdm startup screen. However, if you want to be completely secure why not create another account. This will be insulated from the regular one, have its own home directory, and you can play with window managers in it. There will be nothing to see in a screenshot with Fluxbox. My display at the moment has only a totally blank light grey screen with the mail client open in it. Oh, and a toolbar at the bottom. This is how it always looks. This is what I like about Fluxbox, it is hardly visible as a thing in itself, it just gives access to the applications. I have tried in the past many of the more common and some of the rarer Linux desktops. I don't get on with tiling window managers, they are just too much work and too intrusive. I used to use Gnome 2, quite liked it, and have installed its successor, Mate, for some people, who get along with it fine, but it too is too intrusive for everyday long term use. I thought Gnome 3 and Cinammon were disasters. Like the current version of KDE, and like Win 10 in native mode. I don't think in terms of activities but applications. The only thing I want from the desktop is for it to shut up, get out of the way, and let me get on with my work, and nothing I have tried does this as well as Fluxbox. I didn't finish on Tabs, sorry. You can get a full explanation here: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook/en/fluxbox-docs.html The only thing of this that I use is center click and drag to combine two app windows. I think you have to decide if an almost invisible window manager is for you. Its very different from the conventional Windows/Mac/Gnome/KDE model which are all more or less in your face the whole time. It may not be right for you. But the way in is to realize that it is deliberately not going to do or supply much of what the conventional ones do, because that's what the FB user positively does not want and is seeking to escape from. Peter On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:10:41 -0500 Mark Filipak <mar...@gm...> wrote: > Hello Peter. > > Thank you for taking the time to explain. > > On 2022-02-13 09:26, Peter wrote: > > If it helps, this is how to use Fluxbox. Or rather, how I use it. > > > > You have to begin by recognising it is not using the Mac/Windows model at all. Its completely different. > > Good. > > > In that model your main view on startup is, you have a desktop, and this usually has a mixture of launcher icons and files and folders. Its actually just another file manager view, but this is maybe not all that obvious to Mac and Windows users. This is supposed to mimic an actual desktop electronically. > > > > Cinnamon, Mate, Gnome, KDE all follow this model, though with multiple virtual desktops. > > > > You open applications in any one desktop and they are layered one behind the other, with the active one on top. There is a task bar which allows you to switch between them. Pretty soon you are in the middle of royal clutter. Like a traditional office desktop in fact. > > Ah, so Fluxbox is a task switcher. I generally never see my desktop. Windows are full screen and I > use the taskbar to switch between them. > > > To use Fluxbox productively, at least the way I use it, you have to abandon the concept of the traditional desktop as found starting with the original Mac OS. If that's what you want, Fluxbox is the wrong choice. With Fluxbox your home screen will be blank, with a task bar at the bottom or wherever, and nothing else on it. > > Yeah, I don't give a damn for eyecandy: wallpaper and the like. > > > Your first easy way to open applications will be right click and navigate the menu. However a much better supplement is to set them up as keyboard short cuts. You edit ~/.bashrc appropriately to set them up. > > > > Now the question is how to use the apps as you open them. The first and natural way will be have them all one behind the other. The second way, when you get tired of the bother and clutter this gives, is to have each one on a different desktop. Fluxbox will come with four configured, but you can add as many as you want. I use 6, some use a lot more. > > > > But this will not always be optimal either. Say you're working on a paper and need a browser open to check references, or a spreadsheet for modelling calculations. Its a bit tedious to hop from desktop to desktop. And you may have multiple projects on the go at once, each of which uses a mixture of different applications at the same time. > > > > The way you deal with this is to have each project on a different desktop, but to use the tabbing feature to make the different applications into tabs of one window. > > > > You might, for instance, be working on a revised draft of a document. Have the original open in one tab, and the new version in another, and tab between them. > > I seem to vaguely remember a product from the 1980s that was like that. It wasn't desqview because > desqview wasn't a GUI. Perhaps it was from IBM -- OSX? > > > You find as you get used to this that there is no need for a traditional desktop. In fact, it gets in the way. Use a decent file manager, I like PCManFM, keep it open on one desktop if you like, and you'll find it much easier to work this way. The file views, dual pane mode, and ability to move files around is far greater. > > > > Don't look for a desktop environment to bolt on to Fluxbox. The whole point of it is that you do not need one and in fact, they just get in the way. > > > > Well, this is how I do it! Hope this helps. > > > > Peter > > > > Fluxbox has two features which lead to a completely different way of working. The first is that it lets you put multiple applications into tabs in the same window, on the > > Too bad. I would have liked to read what you had in mind. > > Are there any pictures of what you present here? I did watch a YouTube video but it was silent and I > didn't know what/why the presenter was clicking things -- it looked like random motion -- so the > video lost all meaning. > > Well, I did want to try Linux editions other than Mint, and I am running them in vboxes (Win10 > Host), so I'll create a test VM and try Fluxbox in that. In your experience, what would be the Linux > distro for that, vis-a-vis reliability? I just finished a huge video architecture project, so I > guess I can afford to engage in some "playtime". > > Thanks again, > Mark Filipak. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fluxbox-users mailing list > Flu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fluxbox-users |
From: D.T. <ohn...@po...> - 2022-02-14 06:29:54
|
On Sun, 2022-02-13 at 19:18 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: > Hi D.T. > > Thank you for responding. > > On 2022-02-13 07:06, D.T. wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-02-13 at 03:05 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 2022-02-12 at 23:38 -0500, > > > > mar...@gm... > > > > <mailto:mar...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > First response. Oh, dear. My email address in the clear. That's > > > not good. > > > > Only to other list members, not on the wild web. On the archives it > > looks like this: > > https://sourceforge.net/p/fluxbox/mailman/message/37609439/ > > Not to simply be argumentative, it only takes one list member who has > an email address 'harvester' > virus to put my email address on the dark web. That's not acceptable. > Publishing the email addresses > is not necessary and it should stop. It's an email mailing list, silly. There's no way to stop it. But you're right, that's why you sue a secondary email for this sort of stuff. > > > > 1: > > > I understand that Fluxbox is a stacking window manager, so it > > > can't replace a compositing window > > > manager. Does anyone happen to know if it can replace Muffin, > > > Cinnamon's window manager? > > > > > > Related: Can anyone recommend an entire Cinnamon replacement -- > > > that is, a desktop manager that's > > > compiled, not interpreted -- that will support Fluxbox? The web > > > hits I get are full of marketing > > > horse feces with little-to-no technical/sys-architecture details. > > > > What are your actual search phrases? > > Search phrases for what? "The web hits I get are full of marketing horse feces" |
From: Mark F. <mar...@gm...> - 2022-02-14 01:10:52
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Hello Peter. Thank you for taking the time to explain. On 2022-02-13 09:26, Peter wrote: > If it helps, this is how to use Fluxbox. Or rather, how I use it. > > You have to begin by recognising it is not using the Mac/Windows model at all. Its completely different. Good. > In that model your main view on startup is, you have a desktop, and this usually has a mixture of launcher icons and files and folders. Its actually just another file manager view, but this is maybe not all that obvious to Mac and Windows users. This is supposed to mimic an actual desktop electronically. > > Cinnamon, Mate, Gnome, KDE all follow this model, though with multiple virtual desktops. > > You open applications in any one desktop and they are layered one behind the other, with the active one on top. There is a task bar which allows you to switch between them. Pretty soon you are in the middle of royal clutter. Like a traditional office desktop in fact. Ah, so Fluxbox is a task switcher. I generally never see my desktop. Windows are full screen and I use the taskbar to switch between them. > To use Fluxbox productively, at least the way I use it, you have to abandon the concept of the traditional desktop as found starting with the original Mac OS. If that's what you want, Fluxbox is the wrong choice. With Fluxbox your home screen will be blank, with a task bar at the bottom or wherever, and nothing else on it. Yeah, I don't give a damn for eyecandy: wallpaper and the like. > Your first easy way to open applications will be right click and navigate the menu. However a much better supplement is to set them up as keyboard short cuts. You edit ~/.bashrc appropriately to set them up. > > Now the question is how to use the apps as you open them. The first and natural way will be have them all one behind the other. The second way, when you get tired of the bother and clutter this gives, is to have each one on a different desktop. Fluxbox will come with four configured, but you can add as many as you want. I use 6, some use a lot more. > > But this will not always be optimal either. Say you're working on a paper and need a browser open to check references, or a spreadsheet for modelling calculations. Its a bit tedious to hop from desktop to desktop. And you may have multiple projects on the go at once, each of which uses a mixture of different applications at the same time. > > The way you deal with this is to have each project on a different desktop, but to use the tabbing feature to make the different applications into tabs of one window. > > You might, for instance, be working on a revised draft of a document. Have the original open in one tab, and the new version in another, and tab between them. I seem to vaguely remember a product from the 1980s that was like that. It wasn't desqview because desqview wasn't a GUI. Perhaps it was from IBM -- OSX? > You find as you get used to this that there is no need for a traditional desktop. In fact, it gets in the way. Use a decent file manager, I like PCManFM, keep it open on one desktop if you like, and you'll find it much easier to work this way. The file views, dual pane mode, and ability to move files around is far greater. > > Don't look for a desktop environment to bolt on to Fluxbox. The whole point of it is that you do not need one and in fact, they just get in the way. > > Well, this is how I do it! Hope this helps. > > Peter > > Fluxbox has two features which lead to a completely different way of working. The first is that it lets you put multiple applications into tabs in the same window, on the Too bad. I would have liked to read what you had in mind. Are there any pictures of what you present here? I did watch a YouTube video but it was silent and I didn't know what/why the presenter was clicking things -- it looked like random motion -- so the video lost all meaning. Well, I did want to try Linux editions other than Mint, and I am running them in vboxes (Win10 Host), so I'll create a test VM and try Fluxbox in that. In your experience, what would be the Linux distro for that, vis-a-vis reliability? I just finished a huge video architecture project, so I guess I can afford to engage in some "playtime". Thanks again, Mark Filipak. |
From: Mark F. <mar...@gm...> - 2022-02-14 00:18:13
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Hi D.T. Thank you for responding. On 2022-02-13 07:06, D.T. wrote: > On Sun, 2022-02-13 at 03:05 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2022-02-12 at 23:38 -0500, mar...@gm... >>> <mailto:mar...@gm...> wrote: >> >> First response. Oh, dear. My email address in the clear. That's not good. > > Only to other list members, not on the wild web. On the archives it looks like this: > https://sourceforge.net/p/fluxbox/mailman/message/37609439/ Not to simply be argumentative, it only takes one list member who has an email address 'harvester' virus to put my email address on the dark web. That's not acceptable. Publishing the email addresses is not necessary and it should stop. >> 1: >> I understand that Fluxbox is a stacking window manager, so it can't replace a compositing window >> manager. Does anyone happen to know if it can replace Muffin, Cinnamon's window manager? >> >> Related: Can anyone recommend an entire Cinnamon replacement -- that is, a desktop manager that's >> compiled, not interpreted -- that will support Fluxbox? The web hits I get are full of marketing >> horse feces with little-to-no technical/sys-architecture details. > > What are your actual search phrases? Search phrases for what? > It should be possible to get meaningful results with the right > phrase. > > Any case, just try it out! You'll be surprised how modular it is, many DEs provide mechanisms to > change the WM. I know too little about Fluxbox to "just try it out". My Linux is too vital to tamper with in an uninformed or ill informed manner. Regards, Mark Filipak. |
From: Peter<pet...@gm...> - 2022-02-13 14:27:02
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If it helps, this is how to use Fluxbox. Or rather, how I use it. You have to begin by recognising it is not using the Mac/Windows model at all. Its completely different. In that model your main view on startup is, you have a desktop, and this usually has a mixture of launcher icons and files and folders. Its actually just another file manager view, but this is maybe not all that obvious to Mac and Windows users. This is supposed to mimic an actual desktop electronically. Cinnamon, Mate, Gnome, KDE all follow this model, though with multiple virtual desktops. You open applications in any one desktop and they are layered one behind the other, with the active one on top. There is a task bar which allows you to switch between them. Pretty soon you are in the middle of royal clutter. Like a traditional office desktop in fact. To use Fluxbox productively, at least the way I use it, you have to abandon the concept of the traditional desktop as found starting with the original Mac OS. If that's what you want, Fluxbox is the wrong choice. With Fluxbox your home screen will be blank, with a task bar at the bottom or wherever, and nothing else on it. Your first easy way to open applications will be right click and navigate the menu. However a much better supplement is to set them up as keyboard short cuts. You edit ~/.bashrc appropriately to set them up. Now the question is how to use the apps as you open them. The first and natural way will be have them all one behind the other. The second way, when you get tired of the bother and clutter this gives, is to have each one on a different desktop. Fluxbox will come with four configured, but you can add as many as you want. I use 6, some use a lot more. But this will not always be optimal either. Say you're working on a paper and need a browser open to check references, or a spreadsheet for modelling calculations. Its a bit tedious to hop from desktop to desktop. And you may have multiple projects on the go at once, each of which uses a mixture of different applications at the same time. The way you deal with this is to have each project on a different desktop, but to use the tabbing feature to make the different applications into tabs of one window. You might, for instance, be working on a revised draft of a document. Have the original open in one tab, and the new version in another, and tab between them. You find as you get used to this that there is no need for a traditional desktop. In fact, it gets in the way. Use a decent file manager, I like PCManFM, keep it open on one desktop if you like, and you'll find it much easier to work this way. The file views, dual pane mode, and ability to move files around is far greater. Don't look for a desktop environment to bolt on to Fluxbox. The whole point of it is that you do not need one and in fact, they just get in the way. Well, this is how I do it! Hope this helps. Peter Fluxbox has two features which lead to a completely different way of working. The first is that it lets you put multiple applications into tabs in the same window, on the |
From: D.T. <ohn...@po...> - 2022-02-13 12:07:11
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On Sun, 2022-02-13 at 03:05 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: > > > On Sat, 2022-02-12 at 23:38 -0500, > > mar...@gm... wrote: > > First response. Oh, dear. My email address in the clear. That's not > good. Only to other list members, not on the wild web. On the archives it looks like this: https://sourceforge.net/p/fluxbox/mailman/message/37609439/ > 1: > I understand that Fluxbox is a stacking window manager, so it can't > replace a compositing window > manager. Does anyone happen to know if it can replace Muffin, > Cinnamon's window manager? > > Related: Can anyone recommend an entire Cinnamon replacement -- that > is, a desktop manager that's > compiled, not interpreted -- that will support Fluxbox? The web hits > I get are full of marketing > horse feces with little-to-no technical/sys-architecture details. What are your actual search phrases? It should be possible to get meaningful results with the right phrase. Any case, just try it out! You'll be surprised how modular it is, many DEs provide mechanisms to change the WM. > > 2: > Re: https://fluxbox-wiki.org/ > "Jan 6th 2015 - New Release: 1.3.6 Is here!" > 2015? Is that for real? Almost. On my machine: fluxbox --version Fluxbox 1.3.7 : (c) 2001-2015 Fluxbox Team > 3: > From my Synaptic, I see I can install ver. 1.3.5-2. Ummm... Huh? Depends on the distro. This looks like the version for Debian oldstable. But it hardly matters; fluxbox has been largely complete for a long while now. And before you ask, no, it's not a security issue. |
From: Mark F. <mar...@gm...> - 2022-02-13 08:05:51
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On 2022-02-13 01:42, D.T. wrote: > On Sat, 2022-02-12 at 23:38 -0500, mar...@gm... wrote: First response. Oh, dear. My email address in the clear. That's not good. ...Changing email address to something I can track and filter. > ... we would expect you to do some basic research > (fluxbox documentation, web searches etc.) first, and make sure your questions are specific to using > fluxbox. Thank you. Of course. 1: I understand that Fluxbox is a stacking window manager, so it can't replace a compositing window manager. Does anyone happen to know if it can replace Muffin, Cinnamon's window manager? Related: Can anyone recommend an entire Cinnamon replacement -- that is, a desktop manager that's compiled, not interpreted -- that will support Fluxbox? The web hits I get are full of marketing horse feces with little-to-no technical/sys-architecture details. 2: Re: https://fluxbox-wiki.org/ "Jan 6th 2015 - New Release: 1.3.6 Is here!" 2015? Is that for real? 3: From my Synaptic, I see I can install ver. 1.3.5-2. Ummm... Huh? 4: I haven't seen my desktop in over a year. Is desktop availability actually required or am I misunderstanding and taking an example as a requirement? That's enough for now. > Receiving emails about fluxbox is not the same as joining a mailing list, which allows you to > participate. > This is not specific to fluxbox, you can read up about it e.g. on wikipedia: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_mailing_list > If you send a message to a list you're subscribed to it has to come from the email you subscribed with. > Subscribe here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fluxbox/lists/fluxbox-users > > HTH HTH? Yes, it does. I have belonged to a great many lists to which I subscribed. I got confused because I've been receiving fluxbox-user posts, so I assumed I had subscribed. ...You understand, I'm sure -- nuf said. Regards, Mark. |
From: D.T. <ohn...@po...> - 2022-02-13 06:55:41
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On Sat, 2022-02-12 at 18:27 +0000, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote: > > I've noticed over the years that some > window managers have a command-line option called "--replace" to > allow > them to take over from another window manager, but fluxbox isn't one > of > them. > > I was wondering if anybody knew of other window managers that can > give > control back to fluxbox, as well as hearing any general ideas people > have about window managers that work well with fluxbox. While many of them have a --replace option, it doesn't go the other way: actively handing over to another WM. Or at least I haven't seen one. It might be possible to simply "killall other-wm; exec fluxbox" in a shell, but - at least in my scenario - this won't work because the window manager "carries" the whole Xorg session, i.e. killing it means I'm logging out, back to command line. Personally I'm not all that interested in this sort of hopping; the whole point of a WM (and how the whole session is set up) is to provide a particular workflow, why should I want to interrupt that. I do know however of one person who was playing with this, and created a installable/live image: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?pid=110550#p110550 HTH > Any help for > me on this would be appreciated! > > --- > Scotty "DeepGeek" Fitzgerald > > > _______________________________________________ > Fluxbox-users mailing list > Flu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fluxbox-users |
From: D.T. <ohn...@po...> - 2022-02-13 06:43:08
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On Sat, 2022-02-12 at 23:38 -0500, mar...@gm... wrote: > Hello, > > I've been lurking for years in order to become enlightened [note 1]. > I've not become enlightened. Is > this the place to ask questions about Fluxbox? Yes. However - and this might be just my personal opinion - we would expect you to do some basic research (fluxbox documentation, web searches etc.) first, and make sure your questions are specific to using fluxbox. > [note 1] This is my 1st post. I've been regularly receiving fluxbox > posts in my TBird linux account. > And I am a sourceforge member -- and I thought I was a fluxbox-users > member, too -- but upon trying > to send this message from various accounts I received only "awaits > moderator approval" responses. > I'm totally confused by all that. Receiving emails about fluxbox is not the same as joining a mailing list, which allows you to participate. This is not specific to fluxbox, you can read up about it e.g. on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_mailing_list If you send a message to a list you're subscribed to it has to come from the email you subscribed with. Subscribe here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fluxbox/lists/fluxbox-users HTH ___ Vaccines for everyone! Donate to the COVAX alliance: https://gogiveone.org/ (WHO) https://www.gavi.org/donate (Gavi) |
From: <mar...@gm...> - 2022-02-13 04:38:18
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Hello, I've been lurking for years in order to become enlightened [note 1]. I've not become enlightened. Is this the place to ask questions about Fluxbox? I have read all the on-line docs and I'm still unsure about Fluxbox features and installation. Sorry, my fault I'm sure. Regards, Mark Filipak. [note 1] This is my 1st post. I've been regularly receiving fluxbox posts in my TBird linux account. And I am a sourceforge member -- and I thought I was a fluxbox-users member, too -- but upon trying to send this message from various accounts I received only "awaits moderator approval" responses. I'm totally confused by all that. |
From: higuita <hig...@ya...> - 2022-02-12 21:52:09
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Hi! > I was wondering if there was any efforts to develop Wayland for > Fluxbox. With Gnome on it and KDE close to it being stable, I was > wondering! Some month ago i search for the same, a fluxbox like wayland wm, AFAIK, there is none, this are the closest thing: openbox like for wayland: https://github.com/wizbright/waybox i3 like for wayland: https://swaywm.org/ enlightenment will also work in wayland So while each one with their own merits, i really like fluxbox and for now i stay in X11, waiting for someone with programing knowledge to save us! :) Cya higuita -- Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. -- Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946 |
From: higuita <hig...@ya...> - 2022-02-12 21:49:03
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> openbox like for wayland: https://github.com/wizbright/waybox > i3 like for wayland: https://swaywm.org/ > enlightenment will also work in wayland just found another openbox based https://github.com/johanmalm/labwc good luck higuita -- Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. -- Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946 |
From: Scotty F. <Sco...@sl...> - 2022-02-12 18:28:19
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For many years now I've been using fluxbox as a windowmanager with LXQT, and before that I used it as a desktop replacement (as in "going windowmanager-only") However, a few weeks ago I was experimenting with using fluxbox as a replacement for Kwin and something very interesting happened. I happen to have "minimize/iconfify" as a keyboard shortcut, and upon hitting that hotkey too many times, I noticed that fluxbox would minimize the plasma gui shell itself! It took some experimentation (and if you folks want, I can write in more detail) but I learned that by having the following stanzas in my apps file... [app] (class=plasmashell) [Workspace] {2} [Sticky] {no} [Alpha] {255} [end] And then calling plasmashell from an autostart system (or putting it in a hotkey with exec) I can limit plasma to workspace #2. This gives me a best of both worlds situation! Pure fluxbox on some workspaces and plasma in one place. I can now hotkey into plasma when I want too rather than having to logout and log back into a full plasma session to get that desktop! I'd love to talk more about this if there are any questions. yours, --- Scotty "DeepGeek" Fitzgerald |
From: Scotty F. <Sco...@sl...> - 2022-02-12 18:27:39
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Hi, I'm very interested in the "[restart]" menu item. I'm interested in the fact that it can cause fluxbox to quit while handing over control to another window manager. I was wondering if there other window managers that were so gracious in giving up control to fluxbox. I've noticed over the years that some window managers have a command-line option called "--replace" to allow them to take over from another window manager, but fluxbox isn't one of them. I was wondering if anybody knew of other window managers that can give control back to fluxbox, as well as hearing any general ideas people have about window managers that work well with fluxbox. Any help for me on this would be appreciated! --- Scotty "DeepGeek" Fitzgerald |
From: Scotty F. <Sco...@sl...> - 2022-02-05 19:07:32
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Hello, all, new to list, old to fluxbox! I was wondering if there was any efforts to develop Wayland for Fluxbox. With Gnome on it and KDE close to it being stable, I was wondering! yours, --- Scotty "DeepGeek" Fitzgerald |
From: Genghis K. <gen...@gm...> - 2021-10-04 16:44:33
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Thank you, Alexander :) OK. Reading again, I see that I was somewhat out of topic. Gentlemen, I suggest to establish a new address called https://planet.fluxbox.org/ or https://fluxbox.org/planet/ and publish News that are outside of the official Fluxbox News. The purpose it to promote the use of Fluxbox. At the moments, we have a great opportunity to make a good PR due to the presence of SBCs (Single Board Computers). Let's use it. Please voice your opinion. Kind regards, --GK ~ On Mon, 04 Oct 2021 03:19:10 +0300 Александр Анисимов <ale...@ya...> wrote: > - все > > > Hello GK! > > I have been using fluxbox for over 7 years. This is the most useful > window manager for my taste. I tried before this gnome, KDE 3.5, mate > and others ... they are heavy, they have a lot of Teletubbies, > pictures and no use. I think that you are right and I support your > suggestions. Alex Vlad 03.10.2021, 21:01, "Genghis Khan" > <gen...@gm...>: > > > Hello, > > > > My name is GK (nickname actually), and I'm an avid user of Fluxbox > > for over a decade. > > > > I'm following developments of Fluxbox from time to time, and I > > used to contribute to the http://fluxbox-wiki.org/ (also > > wiki.fluxbox.org) website until it was changed by a git type of > > wiki. > > > > I recall there was an interesting page of Operating Systems that > > provide Fluxbox by default, though I didn't find it... > > https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/* > > > > Since the release of 2GB and 4GB Single Board Computers (such as > > Raspberry Pi), desktops such as Fluxbox and Openbox seems to have a > > greater demand. > > > > I think http://fluxbox.org/news/ should include references to new > > projects that utilize this fine window manager. > > > > I'm more than willing to write contents for the news section. > > And you don't have to accept it all, so please feel free. > > > > Kind regards, > > --GK ~ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fluxbox-users mailing list > > Flu...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fluxbox-users |
From: Александр А. <ale...@ya...> - 2021-10-04 00:19:27
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<div>- все</div><div> </div><div> </div><div><div>Hello GK!</div><div> </div><div>I have been using fluxbox for over 7 years. This is the most useful window manager for my taste. I tried before this gnome, KDE 3.5, mate and others ... they are heavy, they have a lot of Teletubbies, pictures and no use. I think that you are right and I support your suggestions.</div><div>Alex Vlad</div><div> </div></div><div>03.10.2021, 21:01, "Genghis Khan" <gen...@gm...>:</div><blockquote><p>Hello,<br /><br /> My name is GK (nickname actually), and I'm an avid user of Fluxbox for<br />over a decade.<br /><br /> I'm following developments of Fluxbox from time to time, and I used to<br />contribute to the <a href="http://fluxbox-wiki.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://fluxbox-wiki.org/</a> (also wiki.fluxbox.org)<br />website until it was changed by a git type of wiki.<br /><br /> I recall there was an interesting page of Operating Systems that<br />provide Fluxbox by default, though I didn't find it...<br /><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/</a>*<br /><br /> Since the release of 2GB and 4GB Single Board Computers (such as<br />Raspberry Pi), desktops such as Fluxbox and Openbox seems to have a<br />greater demand.<br /><br /> I think <a href="http://fluxbox.org/news/" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://fluxbox.org/news/</a> should include references to new<br />projects that utilize this fine window manager.<br /><br /> I'm more than willing to write contents for the news section.<br /> And you don't have to accept it all, so please feel free.<br /><br />Kind regards,<br /> --GK ~<br /><br /><br />_______________________________________________<br />Fluxbox-users mailing list<br /><a href="mailto:Flu...@li..." rel="noopener noreferrer">Flu...@li...</a><br /><a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fluxbox-users" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fluxbox-users</a></p></blockquote> |
From: Genghis K. <gen...@gm...> - 2021-10-03 18:00:40
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Hello, My name is GK (nickname actually), and I'm an avid user of Fluxbox for over a decade. I'm following developments of Fluxbox from time to time, and I used to contribute to the http://fluxbox-wiki.org/ (also wiki.fluxbox.org) website until it was changed by a git type of wiki. I recall there was an interesting page of Operating Systems that provide Fluxbox by default, though I didn't find it... https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/* Since the release of 2GB and 4GB Single Board Computers (such as Raspberry Pi), desktops such as Fluxbox and Openbox seems to have a greater demand. I think http://fluxbox.org/news/ should include references to new projects that utilize this fine window manager. I'm more than willing to write contents for the news section. And you don't have to accept it all, so please feel free. Kind regards, --GK ~ |
From: higuita <hig...@ya...> - 2021-07-20 23:41:21
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Hi > When I am in runlevel 5, the -w switch does not work on gkrellm to put > it in the slit. It is listed in the slitlist but is not visible. ps > shows it is running but nowhere can I get it to be visible in any of my > desktops. Works for me in slackware runlevel 4 (X11 lightdm login) Probably it is a problem of gkrellm starting before fluxbox, try to move things around in user session startup order or start gkrellm in .fluxbox/startup. Test killing gkrellm and start in a terminal gkrellm -w ... if it works, them for sure is a startup order problem Best regards Higuita -- Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. -- Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946 |
From: Wayne E. H. <way...@at...> - 2021-07-19 18:55:32
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I did a search on the lists page for this and didn't find anything - When I am in runlevel 5, the -w switch does not work on gkrellm to put it in the slit. It is listed in the slitlist but is not visible. ps shows it is running but nowhere can I get it to be visible in any of my desktops. When i am in runlevel 3, and issue a 'startx', everything works as advertized. So is there a fix for this ? Thanks much, Wayne |
From: Nable <nab...@go...> - 2021-03-16 21:43:49
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> Just to inform anyone else, I've found that the package `alttab` (I'm on Debian Testing right now) can do the Alt+Tab part decently. I've checked alttab package project page and it looks even better than bbkeys, thank you very much for this recommendation! I think I'll try it too and probably replace bbkeys with alttab. > I was happy with `phwmon.py`[0], it provided basically everything I was looking for, but apparently it will not work with GTK3, so I was in the need of something similar. But I will check i3wm just in case. > > [0] https://gitlab.com/o9000/phwmon You can enable both Stable and Testing repos at the same time in Debian, that's what I'm personally using. Then you can install python-gtk2 (although python2 is already deprecated and I don't think it's a good idea, I've already purged python2 packages on almost all of my machines) and continue using phwmon as-is. Another option is to port it to python3 and GTK3. A quick search shows that such ports do exist, e.g. https://git.maboxlinux.org/Mabox/mabox-tools/src/branch/master/bin/phwmon.py Probably you'll have to install some additional dependencies, I didn't try it yet but I think it's python3-gi-cairo. |