From: christophe v. <chr...@fr...> - 2002-11-27 17:58:23
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Hello, I get mixed results with the r200 DRI : o glxgears and most GL screensavers work ok o games from Pom Pom work ok but : o quake3 freezes after a few second of very good looking action o soldier of fortune is stable but action slows down dramatically when shooting And last but not least : the "lattice" demo from the rss_glx port (a screensaver collection, annoncement on freshmeat today). This demo locks the box up, even when not in fullscreen. I guess it gives hope to see some usefull debug messages ... though I personnaly didn't see anything. What I would like to know is : Is someone manage to pass this tests (quake3, lattice) ? Is it all known problems ? I use XFree86 CVS from yesterday, with stock DRI or with yesterday DRI CVS. Box is an XP1800, video is Hercule3D Prophet 8500, agpgart loaded on a VIA chip with "unsupported option in modules.conf" regards, cva |
From: Stefan L. <hoi...@gm...> - 2002-11-27 19:08:27
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christophe varoqui wrote: > Hello, > > I get mixed results with the r200 DRI : > o glxgears and most GL screensavers work ok > o games from Pom Pom work ok > > but : > o quake3 freezes after a few second of very good looking action seems to work fine for me > o soldier of fortune is stable but action slows down dramatically when > shooting > hmm, sof is quake2-based, isn't it? in that case, disabling dynamic lighting might help for the slowdowns. try adding "+set gl_dynamic 0" to your commandline This _greatly_ affected performance for quake2 at least. > And last but not least : the "lattice" demo from the rss_glx port (a > screensaver collection, annoncement on freshmeat today). > This demo locks the box up, even when not in fullscreen. seems to work fine for me too (only a bit slow), from brief testing, i only tested windowed mode, the other demos from the packages seem also ok > I guess it gives hope to see some usefull debug messages ... though I > personnaly didn't see anything. > > What I would like to know is : > Is someone manage to pass this tests (quake3, lattice) ? > Is it all known problems ? > > I use XFree86 CVS from yesterday, with stock DRI or with yesterday DRI CVS. > Box is an XP1800, video is Hercule3D Prophet 8500, agpgart loaded on a VIA > chip with "unsupported option in modules.conf" > almost same here: I'm using DRI-CVS (trunk) from yesterday, XP1800+, kt266a-mobo, 8500QL-card (8500 LE, bought as a "FIC" card, but seems to be a built-by-ati card). I have agpgart compiled statically into kernel (linux-2.4.20-rc1 at the moment) > regards, > cva > |
From: christophe v. <chr...@fr...> - 2002-11-28 23:43:24
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> hmm, sof is quake2-based, isn't it? in that case, disabling dynamic > lighting might help for the slowdowns. try adding "+set gl_dynamic 0" to > your commandline > This _greatly_ affected performance for quake2 at least. > works for me too, thanks for the tip. > (linux-2.4.20-rc1 at the moment) same kernel ... quake3 still freezing the box. regards, cva |
From: <chr...@fr...> - 2002-11-28 11:30:34
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> I'm using DRI-CVS (trunk) from yesterday, XP1800+, kt266a-mobo, > 8500QL-card (8500 LE, bought as a "FIC" card, but seems to be a > built-by-ati card). I have agpgart compiled statically into kernel > (linux-2.4.20-rc1 at the moment) good to hear it works for others :) should I try the xc branch from the DRI CVS instead of the XFree86 CVS + DRI binary r200 packages ? can you post your XFConfig, for me to see your "Options", notably the AGP settings ... have someone heard of problems with VIA AGP chips ? (the box is a shuttle sk41) regards, cva |
From: Geller S. <wi...@pe...> - 2002-11-28 12:48:02
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 chr...@fr... wrote: > have someone heard of problems with VIA AGP chips ? > (the box is a shuttle sk41) What is the 'unsupported option' in modules.conf ??? Recently I saw reports on linux-kernel related to Radeon/Rage 128 DRM. There are crashes with recent kernels (2.4.20-rc2+). IMHO the crash is drm-related, not agpgart. See this thread: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=103836929310770&w=2 Geller Sandor <wi...@pe...> |
From: <chr...@fr...> - 2002-11-28 14:49:16
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> What is the 'unsupported option' in modules.conf ??? > it's the "agp_try_unsupported=1" argument to modprobe agpgart. the module wouldn't load without this. the dmesg log upon loading it with this parameter seems right (can't paste it now, the box is @home) > Recently I saw reports on linux-kernel related to Radeon/Rage 128 DRM. > There are crashes with recent kernels (2.4.20-rc2+). IMHO the crash is > drm-related, not agpgart. > > See this thread: > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=103836929310770&w=2 > yes, might be, but can't even see an eventual kernel oops, as the box freezes in X (no more numlock) ... moreover, the drm module comes from DRI CVS tree, not kernel.org. I'll give a try with 2.4. thanks for the input, cva |
From: Stefan L. <hoi...@gm...> - 2002-11-28 16:51:52
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chr...@fr... wrote: >>I'm using DRI-CVS (trunk) from yesterday, XP1800+, kt266a-mobo, >>8500QL-card (8500 LE, bought as a "FIC" card, but seems to be a >>built-by-ati card). I have agpgart compiled statically into kernel >>(linux-2.4.20-rc1 at the moment) > > > good to hear it works for others :) > > should I try the xc branch from the DRI CVS instead of the XFree86 CVS + DRI > binary r200 packages ? I don't know if it will make a difference, but I'd give it a try. There is an excellent dri-compilation guide available at the DRI-website, which should lead you through all necessary steps. > > can you post your XFConfig, for me to see your "Options", notably the AGP > settings ... I don't have any special settings really. The only Options I modified are that I enable Pageflipping, and set AGP-mode to 4. Note that it is safer to set AGP-mode to 1, as higher values might cause trouble. I attached my XF86Config anyway, if you want to look at it (it's a bit messy though...) > > have someone heard of problems with VIA AGP chips ? > (the box is a shuttle sk41) > What chipset is that? > regards, > cva > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Get the new Palm Tungsten T > handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0002en > _______________________________________________ > Dri-users mailing list > Dri...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-users > |
From: christophe v. <chr...@fr...> - 2002-11-28 23:40:23
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> I don't have any special settings really. The only Options I modified > are that I enable Pageflipping, and set AGP-mode to 4. Note that it is > safer to set AGP-mode to 1, as higher values might cause trouble. > > I attached my XF86Config anyway, if you want to look at it (it's a bit > messy though...) > yep the problem with quake3 subsists, but it seems lattice is running fine now ... strange : I only changed the pageflipping setting. > > have someone heard of problems with VIA AGP chips ? > > (the box is a shuttle sk41) > > What chipset is that? > I paste the relevant lspci -v info : 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3116 Subsystem: Holco Enterprise Co, Ltd/Shuttle Computer: Unknown device f641 Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 8 Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0 Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP] (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff Memory behind bridge: ec000000-ec0fffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: e0000000-e7ffffff Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon QL (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Unknown device 1681:0002 Flags: bus master, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16 Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] I/O ports at c000 [size=256] Memory at ec020000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 thanks, cva |
From: Stefan L. <hoi...@gm...> - 2002-11-29 15:18:53
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christophe varoqui wrote: >>I don't have any special settings really. The only Options I modified >>are that I enable Pageflipping, and set AGP-mode to 4. Note that it is >>safer to set AGP-mode to 1, as higher values might cause trouble. >> >>I attached my XF86Config anyway, if you want to look at it (it's a bit >>messy though...) >> > > yep the problem with quake3 subsists, > but it seems lattice is running fine now ... strange : I only changed the > pageflipping setting. > > >>>have someone heard of problems with VIA AGP chips ? >>>(the box is a shuttle sk41) >> >>What chipset is that? >> > > I paste the relevant lspci -v info : > > 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3116 > Subsystem: Holco Enterprise Co, Ltd/Shuttle Computer: Unknown device > f641 > Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 8 > Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] > Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0 > Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2 > > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP] (prog-if > 00 [Normal decode]) > Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0 > Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 > I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff > Memory behind bridge: ec000000-ec0fffff > Prefetchable memory behind bridge: e0000000-e7ffffff > Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 > > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon QL (prog-if 00 > [VGA]) > Subsystem: Unknown device 1681:0002 > Flags: bus master, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16 > Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] > I/O ports at c000 [size=256] > Memory at ec020000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] > Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=128K] > Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0 > Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 > I've got to admit that I'm a bit confused here: From google-ing round I came to the following info: The SK41 is a barebone mini-case that comes equipped with a Shuttle FX41 Mainboard. According to http://www.shuttle.com/german/fx41.htm#fx41 this board has a VIA KM266 chipset. Now, according to http://www.via.com.tw/en/ProSavage%20Chipsets/km266.jsp this chipset should have a "VT8375" northbridge. Your lspci, however, lists "VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP]", which is a Socket-370 chipset (Intel PIII, Celeron etc., see http://www.via.com.tw/en/apollo/PRO266.jsp ). Now this makes me think if maybe this "misdetection" could cause your problems? I don't really know, though. regards Stefan > thanks, > cva > |
From: <chr...@fr...> - 2002-11-29 15:37:52
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> I've got to admit that I'm a bit confused here: > From google-ing round I came to the following info: > The SK41 is a barebone mini-case that comes equipped with a Shuttle FX41 > > Mainboard. According to http://www.shuttle.com/german/fx41.htm#fx41 this > > board has a VIA KM266 chipset. > Now, according to > http://www.via.com.tw/en/ProSavage%20Chipsets/km266.jsp this chipset > should have a "VT8375" northbridge. Your lspci, however, lists "VT8633 > > [Apollo Pro266 AGP]", which is a Socket-370 chipset (Intel PIII, Celeron > > etc., see http://www.via.com.tw/en/apollo/PRO266.jsp ). > > Now this makes me think if maybe this "misdetection" could cause your > problems? > > I don't really know, though. > Gosh, you really got eagle eyes :) I'm gonna go hunting a new BIOS then ... and a mailing list where this kind of mysteries will be appreciated. Thanks for spotting. cva |
From: <chr...@fr...> - 2002-11-29 15:38:07
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> I've got to admit that I'm a bit confused here: > From google-ing round I came to the following info: > The SK41 is a barebone mini-case that comes equipped with a Shuttle FX41 > > Mainboard. According to http://www.shuttle.com/german/fx41.htm#fx41 this > > board has a VIA KM266 chipset. > Now, according to > http://www.via.com.tw/en/ProSavage%20Chipsets/km266.jsp this chipset > should have a "VT8375" northbridge. Your lspci, however, lists "VT8633 > > [Apollo Pro266 AGP]", which is a Socket-370 chipset (Intel PIII, Celeron > > etc., see http://www.via.com.tw/en/apollo/PRO266.jsp ). > > Now this makes me think if maybe this "misdetection" could cause your > problems? > > I don't really know, though. > Gosh, you really got eagle eyes :) I'm gonna go hunting a new BIOS then ... and a mailing list where this kind of mysteries will be appreciated. Thanks for spotting. cva |