From: Smitty <sm...@wa...> - 2002-06-23 16:50:47
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> It's just a guess on the agp gart; the IDE and sound both are clones of > the AMD chip, so why not the gart?. The big whiz-bang feature of the > nFORCE chipset is the crossbar memory controller that supposedly doubles > the bandwidth of DDR (double double data rate). Why would they bother > creating the rest from scratch? Nevertheless, being a graphics chip > company, nVidia might very well decide to create their own GART. Because Sound & IDE are normally South Bridge stuff, so if they are in an AMD chipset board, they would be in the SB, and the Memory controller, AGP, would be in the NB. Unless nVidia / AMD tells you that it is the same, don't hold your breath. Liam ---- it depends |
From: Dieter <Die...@ha...> - 2002-06-23 17:54:43
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On Sunday 23 June 2002 18:50, Smitty wrote: > > It's just a guess on the agp gart; the IDE and sound both are clones of > > the AMD chip, so why not the gart?. The big whiz-bang feature of the > > nFORCE chipset is the crossbar memory controller that supposedly doubles > > the bandwidth of DDR (double double data rate). Why would they bother > > creating the rest from scratch? Nevertheless, being a graphics chip > > company, nVidia might very well decide to create their own GART. > > Because Sound & IDE are normally South Bridge stuff, so if they are in an > AMD chipset board, they would be in the SB, and the Memory controller, AGP, > would be in the NB. > > Unless nVidia / AMD tells you that it is the same, don't hold your breath. Alan Cox and someone on LKM had something going. Watchout for -ac kernel changelogs and nFORCE there. Have you thried with "agp_try_unsupported=1"? modules.conf: [-] alias char-major-10-175 agpgart alias char-major-10-240 agpgarti810 [-] # agpgart is i386 only right now pre-install mga /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" pre-install r128 /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" pre-install radeon /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1 [-] Good luck. Dieter -- Dieter Nützel Graduate Student, Computer Science University of Hamburg Department of Computer Science @home: Die...@ha... |
From: Smitty <sm...@wa...> - 2002-06-23 17:59:39
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Hallo Dieter > > > It's just a guess on the agp gart; the IDE and sound both are clones of > > > the AMD chip, so why not the gart?. The big whiz-bang feature of the > > > nFORCE chipset is the crossbar memory controller that supposedly doubles > > > the bandwidth of DDR (double double data rate). Why would they bother > > > creating the rest from scratch? Nevertheless, being a graphics chip > > > company, nVidia might very well decide to create their own GART. > > > > Because Sound & IDE are normally South Bridge stuff, so if they are in an > > AMD chipset board, they would be in the SB, and the Memory controller, AGP, > > would be in the NB. > > > > Unless nVidia / AMD tells you that it is the same, don't hold your breath. > > Alan Cox and someone on LKM had something going. > Watchout for -ac kernel changelogs and nFORCE there. > > Have you thried with "agp_try_unsupported=1"? > > modules.conf: > > [-] > alias char-major-10-175 agpgart > alias char-major-10-240 agpgarti810 > [-] > # agpgart is i386 only right now > pre-install mga /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > pre-install r128 /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > pre-install radeon /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1 > [-] Dankie Dieter But I dont have an nForce, I have and Irongate (756/ 758). I was replying to Al Tobey. cheers Liam |
From: Dieter <Die...@ha...> - 2002-06-23 18:15:52
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On Thursday 01 January 1970 00:59, Smitty wrote: > Hallo Dieter > > > > > It's just a guess on the agp gart; the IDE and sound both are clones > > > > of the AMD chip, so why not the gart?. The big whiz-bang feature of > > > > the nFORCE chipset is the crossbar memory controller that supposedly > > > > doubles the bandwidth of DDR (double double data rate). Why would > > > > they bother creating the rest from scratch? Nevertheless, being a > > > > graphics chip company, nVidia might very well decide to create their > > > > own GART. > > > > > > Because Sound & IDE are normally South Bridge stuff, so if they are in > > > an AMD chipset board, they would be in the SB, and the Memory > > > controller, AGP, would be in the NB. > > > > > > Unless nVidia / AMD tells you that it is the same, don't hold your > > > breath. > > > > Alan Cox and someone on LKM had something going. > > Watchout for -ac kernel changelogs and nFORCE there. > > > > Have you thried with "agp_try_unsupported=1"? > > > > modules.conf: > > > > [-] > > alias char-major-10-175 agpgart > > alias char-major-10-240 agpgarti810 > > [-] > > # agpgart is i386 only right now > > pre-install mga /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > > pre-install r128 /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > > pre-install radeon /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > > options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1 > > [-] > > Dankie Dieter Danke ;-) > But I dont have an nForce, I have and Irongate (756/ 758). AMD 750 (751/756) Irongate C3-6 (>=C5 with working bypass) ;-) > I was replying to Al Tobey. Sorry. Dieter |
From: Smitty <sm...@wa...> - 2002-06-23 18:51:59
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On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:15:35 +0200 Dieter Nützel <Die...@ha...> wrote: > On Thursday 01 January 1970 00:59, Smitty wrote: > > Hallo Dieter > > > > > > > It's just a guess on the agp gart; the IDE and sound both are clones > > > > > of the AMD chip, so why not the gart?. The big whiz-bang feature of > > > > > the nFORCE chipset is the crossbar memory controller that supposedly > > > > > doubles the bandwidth of DDR (double double data rate). Why would > > > > > they bother creating the rest from scratch? Nevertheless, being a > > > > > graphics chip company, nVidia might very well decide to create their > > > > > own GART. > > > > > > > > Because Sound & IDE are normally South Bridge stuff, so if they are in > > > > an AMD chipset board, they would be in the SB, and the Memory > > > > controller, AGP, would be in the NB. > > > > > > > > Unless nVidia / AMD tells you that it is the same, don't hold your > > > > breath. > > > > > > Alan Cox and someone on LKM had something going. > > > Watchout for -ac kernel changelogs and nFORCE there. > > > > > > Have you thried with "agp_try_unsupported=1"? > > > > > > modules.conf: > > > > > > [-] > > > alias char-major-10-175 agpgart > > > alias char-major-10-240 agpgarti810 > > > [-] > > > # agpgart is i386 only right now > > > pre-install mga /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > > > pre-install r128 /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > > > pre-install radeon /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > > > options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1 > > > [-] > > > > Dankie Dieter > > Danke ;-) > > > But I dont have an nForce, I have and Irongate (756/ 758). > > AMD 750 (751/756) Irongate C3-6 (>=C5 with working bypass) ;-) Ag ja 751 (been a while since I've bothered to actually read the numbers) <g> Bypass does work on my board at least it does under Win98 after enabling it. cheers Liam |
From: Al T. <alb...@pr...> - 2002-06-24 13:55:48
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Busy weekend .. I haven't been able to try much with the driver yet. I have tried "agp_try_unsupported=3D1" with insmod with no success so far. I got 2.4.22-dj2 to compile finally, so as soon as I get a couple hours, I'll try all of the available drivers and see what happens. If it fails completely, I always have my laptop (Radeon Mobility) to play games on while AC & co get things running. -Al Tobey On Sun, 2002-06-23 at 14:51, Smitty wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:15:35 +0200 > Dieter N=FCtzel <Die...@ha...> wrote: >=20 > > On Thursday 01 January 1970 00:59, Smitty wrote: > > > Hallo Dieter > > > > > > > > > It's just a guess on the agp gart; the IDE and sound both are c= lones > > > > > > of the AMD chip, so why not the gart?. The big whiz-bang featu= re of > > > > > > the nFORCE chipset is the crossbar memory controller that suppo= sedly > > > > > > doubles the bandwidth of DDR (double double data rate). Why wo= uld > > > > > > they bother creating the rest from scratch? Nevertheless, bein= g a > > > > > > graphics chip company, nVidia might very well decide to create = their > > > > > > own GART. > > > > > > > > > > Because Sound & IDE are normally South Bridge stuff, so if they a= re in > > > > > an AMD chipset board, they would be in the SB, and the Memory > > > > > controller, AGP, would be in the NB. > > > > > > > > > > Unless nVidia / AMD tells you that it is the same, don't hold your > > > > > breath. > > > > > > > > Alan Cox and someone on LKM had something going. > > > > Watchout for -ac kernel changelogs and nFORCE there. > > > > > > > > Have you thried with "agp_try_unsupported=3D1"? > > > > > > > > modules.conf: > > > > > > > > [-] > > > > alias char-major-10-175 agpgart > > > > alias char-major-10-240 agpgarti810 > > > > [-] > > > > # agpgart is i386 only right now > > > > pre-install mga /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > > > > pre-install r128 /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > > > > pre-install radeon /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > > > > options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=3D1 > > > > [-] > > > > > > Dankie Dieter > >=20 > > Danke ;-) > >=20 > > > But I dont have an nForce, I have and Irongate (756/ 758). > >=20 > > AMD 750 (751/756) Irongate C3-6 (>=3DC5 with working bypass) ;-) > Ag ja 751 (been a while since I've bothered to actually read the numbers)= <g> >=20 > Bypass does work on my board at least it does under Win98 after enabling = it.=20 >=20 > cheers > Liam >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsored by: > ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Dri-devel mailing list > Dri...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel ******************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this=20 email in error please notify the Priority Health Information Services Department at (616) 942-0954. ******************************************************************** |
From: Al T. <alb...@pr...> - 2002-06-28 23:14:52
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Ok. nFORCE AGP GARG is not an irongate clone ;) You told me so ... -Al > > > > > > > they bother creating the rest from scratch? Nevertheless, being a > > > > > > > graphics chip company, nVidia might very well decide to create their > > > > > > > own GART. > > > > > > > > > > > > Because Sound & IDE are normally South Bridge stuff, so if they are in > > > > > > an AMD chipset board, they would be in the SB, and the Memory > > > > > > controller, AGP, would be in the NB. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless nVidia / AMD tells you that it is the same, don't hold your > > > > > > breath. > > > > > > > > > > Alan Cox and someone on LKM had something going. > > > > > Watchout for -ac kernel changelogs and nFORCE there. > > > > > > > > > > Have you thried with "agp_try_unsupported=1"? > > > > > > > > > > modules.conf: > > > > > > > > > > [-] > > > > > alias char-major-10-175 agpgart > > > > > alias char-major-10-240 agpgarti810 > > > > > [-] > > > > > # agpgart is i386 only right now > > > > > pre-install mga /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > > > > > pre-install r128 /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > > > > > pre-install radeon /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart" > > > > > options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1 > > > > > [-] > > > > > > > > Dankie Dieter > > > > > > Danke ;-) > > > > > > > But I dont have an nForce, I have and Irongate (756/ 758). > > > > > > AMD 750 (751/756) Irongate C3-6 (>=C5 with working bypass) ;-) > > Ag ja 751 (been a while since I've bothered to actually read the numbers) <g> > > > > Bypass does work on my board at least it does under Win98 after enabling it. > > > > cheers > > Liam > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Sponsored by: > > ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Dri-devel mailing list > > Dri...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel > ******************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the Priority Health Information Services Department at (616) 942-0954. ******************************************************************** |