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From: Dominique de V. <ddv...@ya...> - 2009-03-07 12:42:08
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--- En date de : Jeu 5.3.09, Kristian Rink wrote : > [...] > > all-in-one, something named like Lotus Client (based > on Eclipse) or stuff > > like that. Columba, or similar, could be part of a > similar open source > > offer. So, yes, such an application seems a sane > thing. > > Indeed. From that point of view, I am not sure why Sun so > far haven't > expressed any more support for their very own platform, > providing, say, a > NetBeans RCP based mail client along with OpenSolaris > rather than "just > Thunderbird pretty much out-of-the-box". Adopting Columba, > by then already a > quite feature-laden and cross-platform tool, would have > been just the next > logical step... May be a writing a mail client was too much a big step. But Columba developers have proven it's doable. And there are more and more librairies out there to help that goal (for example, coming JWebPane). > [...] > > There is a need to expose the project, sure. But this > projet is Columba > > and may be much more "next project beyond Columba". > Why not exposing > > vision for "the project" (just like what you have > written about "software > > components") and IMHO expose also a kind of > vision-roadmap, because as I > > wrote, it's stuff beyond Columba as it needs some code > replacement ? > > Well, starting all over again also might be an interesting > approach... I've > then and now been playing with the idea of something like a > "netPIM", a > NetBeans based personal information manager, including > calendaring, todo > lists, a simple document management facility for local > systems (tagging > files in the file system, adding them to processes / tasks > / notes / > projects / whatever, ...); mail management in example also > would perfectly > suit into this... Months ago, I have had a similar idea while trying to imagine what could be a (still hypothetical) Columba's future. I have imagined a future around a collaboration tool, flexible enough to help strongly to organize ideas and catch them more easily. Our ideas are similar. > I'm however absolutely not sure how to get hold of this > beast > [...] Not sure also. Because there is a lot of stuff to do/think on for so many different sides...I am going to think about it. Regards, Dominique > > > Oh well... time to get goin', I guess. :) > Cheers & all the best, > Kristian > > -- > Kristian Rink > cell : +49 176 2447 2771 > business: http://www.planconnect.de > personal: http://pictorial.zimmer428.net > "Past midnight. Never knew such silence. > The earth might be uninhabited..." > //beckett / krapp's last tape// > |
From: Matthias H. <mat...@ma...> - 2009-03-06 03:27:26
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Kristian, as I am still using Columba Mail for doing my mails I am still monitoring this mailing list, but I'm far away from active development. Do you have any comments, ideas, found annyoing bugs or do you want to contribute some code? Regards, Matthias > Folks; > > stumbled across Columba Mail quite a while ago when it already was > abandoned, sad to see this condition still hasn't changed. :( Is there still > some life in here? I have seen smaller commits to SVN some time ago. > > Cheers, > Kristian > > -- > Kristian Rink > cell : +49 176 2447 2771 > business: http://www.planconnect.de > personal: http://pictorial.zimmer428.net > "Past midnight. Never knew such silence. > The earth might be uninhabited..." > //beckett / krapp's last tape// > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Columba-devel mailing list > Col...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/columba-devel --- This mail was sent with the Java email client Columba. Read more at http://columbamail.org |
From: Kristian R. <li...@zi...> - 2009-03-05 20:42:18
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Hi Dominique; ddv...@ya... schrieb: [...] > While I really, really like Firefox and Thunderbird, I have never been > comfortable about how to write extensions. I am never found clear > tutorials or web-published API, similar to javadocs, about Mozilla > technologies. Such situation does not help to spread such a *good* > technology. So, I would prefer to write extensions with Java, using great > Java IDE to do so. That's why I liked Columba. Yes, I share this view talking about XUL; it's not a bad technology but the whole Mozilla infrastructure is kinda "fishy" in terms of documentation, tooling and development procedures. And I am not really sure what's the problem here... lack of desire to push things to a new level? Generally I don't think the idea of having, well, "declarative" (markup) user interfaces along with a straightforward way of wiring things up is bad at all... [...] > all-in-one, something named like Lotus Client (based on Eclipse) or stuff > like that. Columba, or similar, could be part of a similar open source > offer. So, yes, such an application seems a sane thing. Indeed. From that point of view, I am not sure why Sun so far haven't expressed any more support for their very own platform, providing, say, a NetBeans RCP based mail client along with OpenSolaris rather than "just Thunderbird pretty much out-of-the-box". Adopting Columba, by then already a quite feature-laden and cross-platform tool, would have been just the next logical step... > See Geertjan's post for a very basic java mail client on top of NetBeans: > http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/javamail_client_on_the_netbeans Cool, thanks a bunch for sharing this... I'll have a look through that. At the moment I am both into using NetBeans (as development platform, mainly) and Eclipse (because we create an Eclipse RAP/RCP application in "single-sourcing" mode for our Java EE environment), and generally would prefer having NetBeans RCP as the foundation of such a project simply because in many ways it seems more sane than Eclipse: Being cross-platform is easier because it's "just Swing/Java", the platform is well documented and rather mature by now, and having a fully-fledged, well-working user designer at hand also seems a good thing. [toolbox] > into some (NetBeans) toolbox, because, first, such toolbox would be > helpful and secondly, it would be helpful to spread inner good software > components and underlined technology. [...] > Unfortunately, this post of mine has had little success ;-) May be the > idea was not enough advertised to raise interest from developers. I don't think that this might have been the reason. For what I see, NetBeans (compared to Eclipse) suffers from one fundamental flaw which is hard to come by: Lack of developing users. Eclipse ecosystem lives off simply having an overwhelmingly wide range of companies, universities and freelance developers using Eclipse as their IDE and their RC platform for various reasons (it's been around for quite a while, "everyone's using it", not to mention fundamental "SWT-vs.-Swing" arguments). Sure, there seems to be a growing interest in NetBeans platform at the moment (which is good), but compared to Eclipse RCP the chance of so far finding something who voluntarily, say, puts a NetBeans tooling for a newly created application framework / library / ... on the net is rather limited. :( > Sometimes, I have stranger ideas ;-) about emailing NetBeans session > trainers for building such a toolbox, little by little, through exercices > during trainings. That could be good exercices, and helpful too while > building such toolbox. Of course... but, here, I am not sure it would be something to provide a permanent value. Here, in my opinion, the only thing to eventually help would be, following the open-source approach, creating a tool one really needs to actually have. In a training, this essentially is at stake in my opinion as people eventually aren't likely to need anything that fits into such a toolbox. Maybe a good starting point, however, would be to outline how such a toolbox should look like, i.e. put a "conceptual layer of abstraction" on top of NetBeans RCP to allow for easy integration of virtually any tool because, after all, according to this "conceptual layer" integration is nothing more than just a "step-by-step" procedure. It's still rather complex a job, however, as soon as the tool to be integrated is non-trivial... > There is a need to expose the project, sure. But this projet is Columba > and may be much more "next project beyond Columba". Why not exposing > vision for "the project" (just like what you have written about "software > components") and IMHO expose also a kind of vision-roadmap, because as I > wrote, it's stuff beyond Columba as it needs some code replacement ? Well, starting all over again also might be an interesting approach... I've then and now been playing with the idea of something like a "netPIM", a NetBeans based personal information manager, including calendaring, todo lists, a simple document management facility for local systems (tagging files in the file system, adding them to processes / tasks / notes / projects / whatever, ...); mail management in example also would perfectly suit into this... I'm however absolutely not sure how to get hold of this beast, as I am not sure what will remain? Another (though more strictly, eventually in terms of "being a general toolbox", focused) RC platform framework? A "mail user agent ++" with extended integration features? A specialized module to virtually be hooked into whichever other application (NetBeans RCP-, Eclipse RCP-, server-based)? Plus... I see the danger of eventually ending up in a "long-term" project, of which I am not sure how to fulfil task #1 (attracting new users and developers) simply because some time is about to pass until eventually something will appear. Oh well... time to get goin', I guess. :) Cheers & all the best, Kristian -- Kristian Rink cell : +49 176 2447 2771 business: http://www.planconnect.de personal: http://pictorial.zimmer428.net "Past midnight. Never knew such silence. The earth might be uninhabited..." //beckett / krapp's last tape// |
From: <ddv...@ya...> - 2009-03-05 16:12:31
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Hi Kristian, --- En date de : Mer 4.3.09, Kristian Rink <li...@zi...> a écrit : > De: Kristian Rink <li...@zi...> > Objet: Re: Re : [Columba-devel] activity? > À: "Dominique de Vito" <ddv...@ya...>, col...@li... > Date: Mercredi 4 Mars 2009, 20h23 > Hi Dominique; > > and first off, thanks a bunch for your answer on that... > > Dominique de Vito schrieb: > [...] > > However, if this project has to re-start, IMHO some > pieces of code have > > to be updated. In a *perfect* world (I know it's easy > to write such a > > thing...), I will see the following replacements: > [...] > > - any other idea ? > > Well, let me share my thoughts on that: I stumbled across > Columba again a > couple of days ago when we ran into a certain technical > requirement that > could eventually resolved best by using a > "mainly-off-the-shelf" mail user > agent but doing some modifications to add the last 2% > needed in our > environment. As our users so far are into Thunderbird, we > chose to make our > student build a small XUL extension - he did rather well > here, but the > technology itself is pretty uncomfortable in many respects. While I really, really like Firefox and Thunderbird, I have never been comfortable about how to write extensions. I am never found clear tutorials or web-published API, similar to javadocs, about Mozilla technologies. Such situation does not help to spread such a *good* technology. So, I would prefer to write extensions with Java, using great Java IDE to do so. That's why I liked Columba. > > As a Java mail client, Columba has an interest, a > little interest, but > > this interest do exist. > > Well... on the NetBeans Dream Team list, we were discussing > this quite a > while ago already, talking about minor (or major) > applications to integrate > with the NetBeans IDE to mainly provide a given > functionality (bottom line > here: why use a different mail application when the IDE > running all the time > anyhow features a plugin model that would easily allow for > simply plugging > such an application in). From a "desktop Java" point of > view, such an > application seems a sane thing as well... Yes, if I am not wrong, IBM proposes such a "desktop Java" application, all-in-one, something named like Lotus Client (based on Eclipse) or stuff like that. Columba, or similar, could be part of a similar open source offer. So, yes, such an application seems a sane thing. See Geertjan's post for a very basic java mail client on top of NetBeans: http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/javamail_client_on_the_netbeans http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/javamail_client_on_the_netbeans1 http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/javamail_client_on_the_netbeans2 http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/javamail_client_on_the_netbeans3 http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/javamail_client_on_the_netbeans4 > > But the plugin architecture may provide much more. > IMHO a mail client UI > > just looks like a dashboard = Columba provides a lot > of basis/good stuff > > for dashboard-oriented apps. And different > dashboard-oriented plugins may > > be associated with such a Columba client to improve it > use cases, like a > > workflow (task management) plugin. > > Yes. Plus, as outlined above, I believe in the idea of > "component software", > of (open-source?) modules to easily be integrated into > custom applications, > in order to allow a seamless working environment without > having to face > limitations i.e. provided by the usual "light mail user > agents" provided > with some document management applications. I think there's > a lot of > goodness that could arise from such a technological > approach... Yes, this is the reason why I have written: http://www.jroller.com/dmdevito/entry/the_netbeans_missing_distributions in order to list already existing good pieces of code that may be reused into some (NetBeans) toolbox, because, first, such toolbox would be helpful and secondly, it would be helpful to spread inner good software components and underlined technology. Unfortunately, this post of mine has had little success ;-) May be the idea was not enough advertised to raise interest from developers. Sometimes, I have stranger ideas ;-) about emailing NetBeans session trainers for building such a toolbox, little by little, through exercices during trainings. That could be good exercices, and helpful too while building such toolbox. > but at the > moment, I think in case of making anything of this even > slightly likely, > attention of people interested in using and developing > Columba seems > required, so there's a need to expose the project to "the > world" again, to > make people know it's still around and there still are > people in whichever > way dealing with it... What do you think? There is a need to expose the project, sure. But this projet is Columba and may be much more "next project beyond Columba". Why not exposing vision for "the project" (just like what you have written about "software components") and IMHO expose also a kind of vision-roadmap, because as I wrote, it's stuff beyond Columba as it needs some code replacement ? My 2 cents. Regards, Dominique > Cheers & all the best, > Kristian > > -- > Kristian Rink > cell : +49 176 2447 2771 > business: http://www.planconnect.de > personal: http://pictorial.zimmer428.net > "Past midnight. Never knew such silence. > The earth might be uninhabited..." > //beckett / krapp's last tape// > > |
From: Thomas W. <wa...@ho...> - 2009-03-05 09:21:03
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Hi Kristian, there is still life here ;-) I'am working on ristretto restructering at the moment (when I find time at home). Mark still maintaining the sf project. We want to complete switch back to sf and trying to use there services like wiki, trac and so on. If ristretto restructering is finished (using maven2 as build system) I will focus on columba. Thats all ate the moment. You are welcome to help us or discuss with us about the next milestones. Regards, - waffel Quoting Kristian Rink <li...@zi...>: > Folks; > > stumbled across Columba Mail quite a while ago when it already was > abandoned, sad to see this condition still hasn't changed. :( Is there still > some life in here? I have seen smaller commits to SVN some time ago. > > Cheers, > Kristian > > -- > Kristian Rink > cell : +49 176 2447 2771 > business: http://www.planconnect.de > personal: http://pictorial.zimmer428.net > "Past midnight. Never knew such silence. > The earth might be uninhabited..." > //beckett / krapp's last tape// > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Columba-devel mailing list > Col...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/columba-devel > |
From: Kristian R. <li...@zi...> - 2009-03-04 19:24:27
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Hi Dominique; and first off, thanks a bunch for your answer on that... Dominique de Vito schrieb: [...] > However, if this project has to re-start, IMHO some pieces of code have > to be updated. In a *perfect* world (I know it's easy to write such a > thing...), I will see the following replacements: [...] > - any other idea ? Well, let me share my thoughts on that: I stumbled across Columba again a couple of days ago when we ran into a certain technical requirement that could eventually resolved best by using a "mainly-off-the-shelf" mail user agent but doing some modifications to add the last 2% needed in our environment. As our users so far are into Thunderbird, we chose to make our student build a small XUL extension - he did rather well here, but the technology itself is pretty uncomfortable in many respects. Given a growing amount of our environment is Java based, the idea to have a Java based e-mail application to be (best of all seamlessly) embedded into this seems a sane approach. This day I started querying for something like that - a fully-fledged Java based mail client, stable and usable enough to replace Thunderbird as main MUA and yet extensible enough to allow for virtually every "hack" we could come up with... Only bad thing, of course, being that it's not really maintained anymore, and for what I see, time that has passed ever since the project was discontinued is rather long... :/ > As a Java mail client, Columba has an interest, a little interest, but > this interest do exist. Well... on the NetBeans Dream Team list, we were discussing this quite a while ago already, talking about minor (or major) applications to integrate with the NetBeans IDE to mainly provide a given functionality (bottom line here: why use a different mail application when the IDE running all the time anyhow features a plugin model that would easily allow for simply plugging such an application in). From a "desktop Java" point of view, such an application seems a sane thing as well... > But the plugin architecture may provide much more. IMHO a mail client UI > just looks like a dashboard = Columba provides a lot of basis/good stuff > for dashboard-oriented apps. And different dashboard-oriented plugins may > be associated with such a Columba client to improve it use cases, like a > workflow (task management) plugin. Yes. Plus, as outlined above, I believe in the idea of "component software", of (open-source?) modules to easily be integrated into custom applications, in order to allow a seamless working environment without having to face limitations i.e. provided by the usual "light mail user agents" provided with some document management applications. I think there's a lot of goodness that could arise from such a technological approach... but at the moment, I think in case of making anything of this even slightly likely, attention of people interested in using and developing Columba seems required, so there's a need to expose the project to "the world" again, to make people know it's still around and there still are people in whichever way dealing with it... What do you think? Cheers & all the best, Kristian -- Kristian Rink cell : +49 176 2447 2771 business: http://www.planconnect.de personal: http://pictorial.zimmer428.net "Past midnight. Never knew such silence. The earth might be uninhabited..." //beckett / krapp's last tape// |
From: Dominique de V. <ddv...@ya...> - 2009-03-04 14:26:06
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Hi, Columba is an amazing piece of code. However, if this project has to re-start, IMHO some pieces of code have to be updated. In a *perfect* world (I know it's easy to write such a thing...), I will see the following replacements: - plugin engine => replace it with NetBeans RCP or Eclipse RCP - Flying Saucer => may be JWebPane (to come soon) - Ristretto => try to hack/fork an existing JavaMail implementation to get needed features for Columba (and may be give feedback for JavaMail improvements for a next JavaMail spec version). - BeanShell => JavaScript/Rhino while exposing internal Java API clearly. - any other idea ? As a Java mail client, Columba has an interest, a little interest, but this interest do exist. But the plugin architecture may provide much more. IMHO a mail client UI just looks like a dashboard = Columba provides a lot of basis/good stuff for dashboard-oriented apps. And different dashboard-oriented plugins may be associated with such a Columba client to improve it use cases, like a workflow (task management) plugin. Such a Columba client fits well the toolbox potential I have written about here for NetBeans RCP for example : http://www.jroller.com/dmdevito/entry/the_netbeans_missing_distributions What are your thoughts ? Idea ? Feed-back ? Thanks. Regards, Dominique http://www.jroller.com/dmdevito --- En date de : Mar 3.3.09, Kristian Rink <li...@zi...> a écrit : > De: Kristian Rink <li...@zi...> > Objet: [Columba-devel] activity? > À: col...@li... > Date: Mardi 3 Mars 2009, 13h21 > Folks; > > stumbled across Columba Mail quite a while ago when it > already was > abandoned, sad to see this condition still hasn't changed. > :( Is there still > some life in here? I have seen smaller commits to SVN some > time ago. > > Cheers, > Kristian > > -- > Kristian Rink > cell : +49 176 2447 2771 > business: http://www.planconnect.de > personal: http://pictorial.zimmer428.net > "Past midnight. Never knew such silence. > The earth might be uninhabited..." > //beckett / krapp's last tape// > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, > San Francisco, CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open > Sourcing the Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open > source participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the > source code: SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Columba-devel mailing list > Col...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/columba-devel > |
From: Mark L. <mli...@in...> - 2009-03-04 08:54:50
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Hi Kristian, Waffel has been doing some major changes lately to the structure of Columba to enable us to make it using Maven 2. At the same time however, we do not have anybody working on it full time. Developer Hero did some great work a while back which will show up once we do a release. Feel free to work on Columba and we can arrange SVN write access if you want it. Cheers, MarkL On 03/03/2009, at 10:21 PM, Kristian Rink wrote: > Folks; > > stumbled across Columba Mail quite a while ago when it already was > abandoned, sad to see this condition still hasn't changed. :( Is > there still > some life in here? I have seen smaller commits to SVN some time ago. > > Cheers, > Kristian |
From: Kristian R. <li...@zi...> - 2009-03-03 12:39:48
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Folks; stumbled across Columba Mail quite a while ago when it already was abandoned, sad to see this condition still hasn't changed. :( Is there still some life in here? I have seen smaller commits to SVN some time ago. Cheers, Kristian -- Kristian Rink cell : +49 176 2447 2771 business: http://www.planconnect.de personal: http://pictorial.zimmer428.net "Past midnight. Never knew such silence. The earth might be uninhabited..." //beckett / krapp's last tape// |
From: Thomas W. <tho...@ho...> - 2009-02-20 13:21:18
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Hi, I have finished the ristretto maven2 change. If you have some changes for ristretto please make them in the submodules like ristretto-common or ristretto-imap and so on and not anymore in ristretto/src. This folder is obsolete. I will delete the ristretto/src folder in the future. I have also deployed all ristetto modules to our maven2 repository. What I have to do: 1. Creating another module ristretto-examples 2. Creating assembly desciptor to build release files with maven. @Mark: We should enable the mediawiki and trac component on sf and starting again to put some informations in the wiki. What do you think? Regards, - waffel |
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From: Mark L. <mli...@in...> - 2008-11-30 07:55:23
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Hi Freddy, Sorry for not replying sooner. Uni has finally finished for the year! It is not something I would want to take over but I am wondering since SF now appears to be able to host web apps, would we be able to move what we have to SF even if we lose the domain name? Cheers, MarkL On 24/11/2008, at 3:07 AM, Frederik Dietz wrote: > Hi all, > > Timo and me meet this weekend to dicuss how to proceed with our > hosting of the columbamail.org server. We have been paying quite a lot > for the root servers and both don't have enough time to keep > maintaining everything anymore. > > Since there's not much movement for almost a year now, we'd like to > pull the plug on the server. This effectively means that the only > thing left will be the Sourceforge project page at http://www.sf.net/projects/columba > . > > The domain columbamail.org we intend to drop too unless someone steps > up and would like to take over the domain instead. > > If you have any concerns, suggestions, comments or are interested in > the domain name please get in contact with Timo and me via mail. > > Thanks and best regards, > -Frederik > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win > great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in > the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Columba-devel mailing list > Col...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/columba-devel |
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From: Frederik D. <fd...@gm...> - 2008-11-23 17:07:53
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Hi all, Timo and me meet this weekend to dicuss how to proceed with our hosting of the columbamail.org server. We have been paying quite a lot for the root servers and both don't have enough time to keep maintaining everything anymore. Since there's not much movement for almost a year now, we'd like to pull the plug on the server. This effectively means that the only thing left will be the Sourceforge project page at http://www.sf.net/projects/columba . The domain columbamail.org we intend to drop too unless someone steps up and would like to take over the domain instead. If you have any concerns, suggestions, comments or are interested in the domain name please get in contact with Timo and me via mail. Thanks and best regards, -Frederik |
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