From: Dave P. <da...@tr...> - 2005-02-07 17:25:26
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Litestep looks interesting, but not what I am looking for either. I NEED some MS applications but I want to keep MS hidden away and launch the app's from an icon on the KDE desktop. On other forums, I have received suggestions that include using ssh or telnet to launch the MS application. How would you do that? Someone mentioned KDE/Cygwin. I have it running that way but it is MUCH slower than Colinux/X/KDE. There is a thread I found, http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cygwin <BLOCKED::http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cygwin&m=103072530327420&w> &m=103072530327420&w that talks about how to set an icon on the KDE desktop to launch a MS application. As someone new to Linux and computers in general, it doesn't make much sense to me, but maybe it has some applicability to what we're trying to do? Dave |
From: Ian B. <ib...@gm...> - 2005-02-07 18:46:19
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I was thinking about this earlier when I looked at the thread originally. I think what they mean is that you set up an sshd daemon on your windows host (cygwin run or otherwise), and then launch applications from your coLinux via "ssh host 'notepad.exe'" or some such things. To do it without typing in passwords, you're going to need to set up some ssh keys between the two hosts. Also, when you run the "remote program", its going to run on top of your X windows screen or behind it. They'll be no way to "intermingle the two" unless you're running RootLess mode with your X server. Even then, you're going to see issues. What I've always wanted to see is the ability to export Windows programs much like you do X programs. I.E. notepad.exe -display remhost:0.0 or some such thing. Ian On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Dave Peterson <da...@tr...> wrote: > > Litestep looks interesting, but not what I am looking for either. I NEED > some MS applications but I want to keep MS hidden away and launch the app's > from an icon on the KDE desktop. On other forums, I have received > suggestions that include using ssh or telnet to launch the MS application. > How would you do that? Someone mentioned KDE/Cygwin. I have it running > that way but it is MUCH slower than Colinux/X/KDE. There is a thread I > found, http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cygwin&m=103072530327420&w that talks > about how to set an icon on the KDE desktop to launch a MS application. As > someone new to Linux and computers in general, it doesn't make much sense to > me, but maybe it has some applicability to what we're trying to do? > > Dave |
From: Dave P. <da...@tr...> - 2005-02-08 01:33:16
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I'm now using Telnet to communicate and psexec on the windows side. With that, I am now able to get Windows applications to launch from my Colinux/KDE desktop. I'm working on the icon path that will allow all of that to happen with the click of a button now. I need to have it launch a telnet session, log in with user name and password and then run the proper command psexec -i notepad.exe (or whatever). I have been able to keep the MS application on top of the -rootless -keyhook colinux desktop, but it disappears when I minimize, never to be seen again. I don't want to alt-tab between OS's and -keyhook took care of that. I can ctl-alt-del and get my minimized application back, but I'd rather figure a way to 1)disable minimizing of the application, or 2) make it so that minimizing only makes it really small. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- From: Ian Bonnycastle [mailto:ib...@gm...] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:46 PM To: Dave Peterson Cc: col...@li... Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Launching MS applications from Colinux desktop I was thinking about this earlier when I looked at the thread originally. I think what they mean is that you set up an sshd daemon on your windows host (cygwin run or otherwise), and then launch applications from your coLinux via "ssh host 'notepad.exe'" or some such things. To do it without typing in passwords, you're going to need to set up some ssh keys between the two hosts. Also, when you run the "remote program", its going to run on top of your X windows screen or behind it. They'll be no way to "intermingle the two" unless you're running RootLess mode with your X server. Even then, you're going to see issues. What I've always wanted to see is the ability to export Windows programs much like you do X programs. I.E. notepad.exe -display remhost:0.0 or some such thing. Ian On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Dave Peterson <da...@tr...> wrote: > > Litestep looks interesting, but not what I am looking for either. I > NEED some MS applications but I want to keep MS hidden away and launch > the app's from an icon on the KDE desktop. On other forums, I have > received suggestions that include using ssh or telnet to launch the MS application. > How would you do that? Someone mentioned KDE/Cygwin. I have it > running that way but it is MUCH slower than Colinux/X/KDE. There is a > thread I found, http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cygwin&m=103072530327420&w > that talks about how to set an icon on the KDE desktop to launch a MS > application. As someone new to Linux and computers in general, it > doesn't make much sense to me, but maybe it has some applicability to what we're trying to do? > > Dave |
From: Ian B. <ib...@gm...> - 2005-02-07 18:51:04
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I re-read the link you posted in your last message, and it appears that the poster in question replaced explorer.exe with KDE. This is highly unusual, and looks like it was done without the use of coLinux at all, but with the use of KDE built under Cygwin. I guess its possible, since Cygwin creates an emulation layer to some degree. He then associated all exe's with execution, and allows himself to double-click an icon and run the program. You're not going to see this type of functionality with coLinux because even though coLinux is running on the host, it creates a whole new platform, rather than integrating with the original host. Ian On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Dave Peterson <da...@tr...> wrote: > > Litestep looks interesting, but not what I am looking for either. I NEED > some MS applications but I want to keep MS hidden away and launch the app's > from an icon on the KDE desktop. On other forums, I have received > suggestions that include using ssh or telnet to launch the MS application. > How would you do that? Someone mentioned KDE/Cygwin. I have it running > that way but it is MUCH slower than Colinux/X/KDE. There is a thread I > found, http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cygwin&m=103072530327420&w that talks > about how to set an icon on the KDE desktop to launch a MS application. As > someone new to Linux and computers in general, it doesn't make much sense to > me, but maybe it has some applicability to what we're trying to do? > > Dave |
From: Ian B. <ib...@gm...> - 2005-02-07 21:24:21
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I'm not sure if you'll really have issues more than you'll know what to look for when you're doing this. It should work OK as long as you know what to expect from it and what not to. Ian On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:06:24 -0500, Dave Peterson <da...@tr...> wrote: > Thanks for that assessment. That is what I kind of thought regarding Cygwin > vs Colinux. I therefore didn't think the associations would work in a > Colinux environment. I am working towards the ssh solution and I am running > -rootless -keyhook with my X-server. You mentioned issues...anything > specific to look for? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Bonnycastle [mailto:ib...@gm...] > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:51 PM > To: Dave Peterson > Cc: col...@li... > Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Launching MS applications from Colinux desktop > > I re-read the link you posted in your last message, and it appears that the > poster in question replaced explorer.exe with KDE. This is highly unusual, > and looks like it was done without the use of coLinux at all, but with the > use of KDE built under Cygwin. I guess its possible, since Cygwin creates an > emulation layer to some degree. He then associated all exe's with execution, > and allows himself to double-click an icon and run the program. You're not > going to see this type of functionality with coLinux because even though > coLinux is running on the host, it creates a whole new platform, rather than > integrating with the original host. > > Ian > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Dave Peterson <da...@tr...> wrote: > > > > Litestep looks interesting, but not what I am looking for either. I > > NEED some MS applications but I want to keep MS hidden away and launch > > the app's from an icon on the KDE desktop. On other forums, I have > > received suggestions that include using ssh or telnet to launch the MS > application. > > How would you do that? Someone mentioned KDE/Cygwin. I have it > > running that way but it is MUCH slower than Colinux/X/KDE. There is a > > thread I found, http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cygwin&m=103072530327420&w > > that talks about how to set an icon on the KDE desktop to launch a MS > > application. As someone new to Linux and computers in general, it > > doesn't make much sense to me, but maybe it has some applicability to what > we're trying to do? > > > > Dave > > |
From: Dave P. <da...@tr...> - 2005-02-08 01:33:40
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Thanks for that assessment. That is what I kind of thought regarding Cygwin vs Colinux. I therefore didn't think the associations would work in a Colinux environment. I am working towards the ssh solution and I am running -rootless -keyhook with my X-server. You mentioned issues...anything specific to look for? -----Original Message----- From: Ian Bonnycastle [mailto:ib...@gm...] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:51 PM To: Dave Peterson Cc: col...@li... Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Launching MS applications from Colinux desktop I re-read the link you posted in your last message, and it appears that the poster in question replaced explorer.exe with KDE. This is highly unusual, and looks like it was done without the use of coLinux at all, but with the use of KDE built under Cygwin. I guess its possible, since Cygwin creates an emulation layer to some degree. He then associated all exe's with execution, and allows himself to double-click an icon and run the program. You're not going to see this type of functionality with coLinux because even though coLinux is running on the host, it creates a whole new platform, rather than integrating with the original host. Ian On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Dave Peterson <da...@tr...> wrote: > > Litestep looks interesting, but not what I am looking for either. I > NEED some MS applications but I want to keep MS hidden away and launch > the app's from an icon on the KDE desktop. On other forums, I have > received suggestions that include using ssh or telnet to launch the MS application. > How would you do that? Someone mentioned KDE/Cygwin. I have it > running that way but it is MUCH slower than Colinux/X/KDE. There is a > thread I found, http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cygwin&m=103072530327420&w > that talks about how to set an icon on the KDE desktop to launch a MS > application. As someone new to Linux and computers in general, it > doesn't make much sense to me, but maybe it has some applicability to what we're trying to do? > > Dave |