From: alex w. <ale...@go...> - 2008-02-25 16:06:04
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Hi. My name is Alex. I recently found out about colinux on another mailing list. Am I right in thinking that colinux takes up a lot less resources than say running vmware? I'm writing because I have installed colinux, I have downloaded one of the distribution options given in the installer, but now i'm not really sure where to start with getting everything working. I have successfully extracted the image that the installer downloaded. I was also wondering in the ubuntu image I have downloaded is that just a basic file system? or does it include packages such as orca. Sorry for all the questions. I did try to check the wiki but the site seems to be down at the moment. Thanks very much for any help. Alex. |
From: Henry N. <Henry.Ne@Arcor.de> - 2008-02-25 17:29:33
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alex wallis wrote: > Hi. > My name is Alex. I recently found out about colinux on another mailing list. > Am I right in thinking that colinux takes up a lot less resources than say > running vmware? > I'm writing because I have installed colinux, I have downloaded one of the > distribution options given in the installer, but now i'm not really sure > where to start with getting everything working. > I have successfully extracted the image that the installer downloaded. > I was also wondering in the ubuntu image I have downloaded is that just a > basic file system? or does it include packages such as orca. > Sorry for all the questions. > I did try to check the wiki but the site seems to be down at the moment. Yust in the moment, the wiki is online. The image files in installer are perhaps a liddle outdated. So, it is very goot, you have downloaded a more recent image from sf.net. If you have downloaded and unpacked the Ubuntu image, than should follow the notes from http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=544248&group_id=98788 That contains all you need to run the Ubuntu. In the end you have a minimal Linux system, that is usable to install more packages in same way, as you installed Ubuntu nativly. The packages are not in the filesystem. Ubuntu use an online repository. The difference between VMware and coLinux is mainly, that coLinux does no needs to emulate any hardware, and coLinux is very fair with memory usage. You can run coLinux with 128MB for simple text consoles. And if Linux give free some memory, than coLinux give that free to toe host. Here is one of my fast booted coLinux http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/screenshoots/bootchart-async-38sec.png, that is a SuSE9.0 standard installation on a partition, used as dual boot and coLinux. VMware would not good run on this machine (256MB total RAM). More faster boots are Debian 3.0 or latest ArchLinux. -- Henry N. |
From: alex w. <ale...@go...> - 2008-02-25 17:51:13
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Hi. Thanks for replying to my message. I've looked at the notes, but i'm not sure how do i create the batch file it says i need to make? and where should this file be put? also what does this step mean? "5. Setup your keyboard with "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" I no this is a long shot, but is there anyone on this list who is blind? as i'm blind and and because of this My first need after trying to get everything set up will be to get some kind of screen reader working such as linux-speakup or orca. I've heard that getting a linux screen reader working in this kind of situation can be hard so just wondering has anyone had experience of this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Nestler" <Henry.Ne@Arcor.de> To: "alex wallis" <alexwallis646@google mail.com> Cc: <col...@li...> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] newbie trying to get started with colinux > alex wallis wrote: >> Hi. >> ` My name is Alex. I recently found out about colinux on another >> mailing list. >> Am I right in thinking that colinux takes up a lot less resources than >> say >> running vmware? >> I'm writing because I have installed colinux, I have downloaded one of >> the >> distribution options given in the installer, but now i'm not really sure >> where to start with getting everything working. >> I have successfully extracted the image that the installer downloaded. >> I was also wondering in the ubuntu image I have downloaded is that just a >> basic file system? or does it include packages such as orca. >> Sorry for all the questions. >> I did try to check the wiki but the site seems to be down at the moment. > > Yust in the moment, the wiki is online. > > The image files in installer are perhaps a liddle outdated. So, it is > very goot, you have downloaded a more recent image from sf.net. > > If you have downloaded and unpacked the Ubuntu image, than should follow > the notes from > http:/ /sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=544248&group_id=98788 > That contains all you need to run the Ubuntu. In the end you have a > minimal Linux system, that is usable to install more packages in same > way, as you installed Ubuntu nativly. The packages are not in the > filesystem. Ubuntu use an online repository. > > The difference between VMware and coLinux is mainly, that coLinux does > no needs to emulate any hardware, and coLinux is very fair with memory > usage. You can run coLinux with 128MB for simple text consoles. And if > Linux give free some memory, than coLinux give that free to toe host. > > Here is one of my fast booted coLinux > http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/screenshoots/bootchart-async-38sec.png, > that is a SuSE9.0 standard installation on a partition, used as dual > boot and coLinux. VMware would not good run on this machine (256MB total > RAM). More faster boots are Debian 3.0 or latest ArchLinux. > > -- > Henry N. |
From: Henry N. <Henry.Ne@Arcor.de> - 2008-02-25 18:31:47
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alex wallis wrote: > I've looked at the notes, but i'm not sure how do i create the batch file it > says i need to make? and where should this file be put? The file can store somethere you wish. You should know name and location to find it later ;-) I assume, you have installed coLinux under C:\colinux. If not, replace the C:\colinux with your installation directory. Open a Windows command prompt, and type cd c:\colinux notepad colinux.bat Than type the two lines into the new opened text editor, for example cd c:\coLinux colinux-daemon.exe -t nt kernel=vmlinux cobd0=ubuntu.img root=/dev/cobd0 eth0=slirp eth1=tuntap Close and save the file "colinux.bat". In the same Windows command prompt you can than start this batch by typing colinux.bat The batch you should create, to save all the settings some. That is better, as typing this command line every time you wish to boot coLinux again and again. > also what does this step mean? > "5. Setup your keyboard with "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" After Linux is booted, you have an english keyboard layout. The step 5 helps you to select your keyboard type. > I no this is a long shot, but is there anyone on this list who is blind? as > i'm blind and and because of this My first need after trying to get > everything set up will be to get some kind of screen reader working such as > linux-speakup or orca. > I've heard that getting a linux screen reader working in this kind of > situation can be hard so just wondering has anyone had experience of this? Yes, someone was blind here. But was long time, heared from him. The importend you needs to know is the parameter -t nt This opend coLinux as text only mode, named NT-console. Without this paramter coLinux starts with a graphical FLTK console, screenreader can not read/speak such. -- Henry N. |
From: Bill C. R. <do...@gm...> - 2008-03-13 16:46:18
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Alex, I can't speak to the problem of being blind, but when I started using coLinux, it was because I had severe hand pains and could not type. The best quality voice software is only available for Windows. So in order to continue to use Linux, I had to be creative. In the end, I found using programs like emacs running under coLinux and redirected to Windows worked reasonably well with voice recognition software. However, by the time I started to figure that out my hands were already recovering. After treatment and switching to Dvorak, I have been able to type normally, so I never finished the process of learning emacs speak. One thing to consider, is you don't really need the Linux system to speak. If you connect to the Linux system via emacs under windows, then you will only need to have the Windows version of emacs do screen reading. If you need help setting up your system, contact me off line. I have never setup a system this way, but I am willing to help you figure it out. If we can get something working, we can then post the image to help anyone else who needs it as well. Bill alex wallis wrote: > Hi. Thanks for replying to my message. > I've looked at the notes, but i'm not sure how do i create the batch file it > says i need to make? and where should this file be put? > also what does this step mean? > "5. Setup your keyboard with "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" > I no this is a long shot, but is there anyone on this list who is blind? as > i'm blind and and because of this My first need after trying to get > everything set up will be to get some kind of screen reader working such as > linux-speakup or orca. > I've heard that getting a linux screen reader working in this kind of > situation can be hard so just wondering has anyone had experience of this? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Henry Nestler" <Henry.Ne@Arcor.de> > To: "alex wallis" <alexwallis646@google mail.com> > Cc: <col...@li...> > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] newbie trying to get started with colinux > > > >> alex wallis wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> ` My name is Alex. I recently found out about colinux on another >>> mailing list. >>> Am I right in thinking that colinux takes up a lot less resources than >>> say >>> running vmware? >>> I'm writing because I have installed colinux, I have downloaded one of >>> the >>> distribution options given in the installer, but now i'm not really sure >>> where to start with getting everything working. >>> I have successfully extracted the image that the installer downloaded. >>> I was also wondering in the ubuntu image I have downloaded is that just a >>> basic file system? or does it include packages such as orca. >>> Sorry for all the questions. >>> I did try to check the wiki but the site seems to be down at the moment. >>> >> Yust in the moment, the wiki is online. >> >> The image files in installer are perhaps a liddle outdated. So, it is >> very goot, you have downloaded a more recent image from sf.net. >> >> If you have downloaded and unpacked the Ubuntu image, than should follow >> the notes from >> http:/ >> > /sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=544248&group_id=98788 > >> That contains all you need to run the Ubuntu. In the end you have a >> minimal Linux system, that is usable to install more packages in same >> way, as you installed Ubuntu nativly. The packages are not in the >> filesystem. Ubuntu use an online repository. >> >> The difference between VMware and coLinux is mainly, that coLinux does >> no needs to emulate any hardware, and coLinux is very fair with memory >> usage. You can run coLinux with 128MB for simple text consoles. And if >> Linux give free some memory, than coLinux give that free to toe host. >> >> Here is one of my fast booted coLinux >> http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/screenshoots/bootchart-async-38sec.png, >> that is a SuSE9.0 standard installation on a partition, used as dual >> boot and coLinux. VMware would not good run on this machine (256MB total >> RAM). More faster boots are Debian 3.0 or latest ArchLinux. >> >> -- >> Henry N. >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-users mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users > |