From: Dan A. <da...@co...> - 2004-04-02 12:51:34
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Hello, Would anyone like to volunteer and create a GUI-based .colinux.xml generator/editor ? It could help new users of coLinux and It doesn't require any kernel programming experience in order to be developed. I'd prefer if you use the FLTK toolkit. We can later merge it into the FLTK console so it would appear more like VMware from the aspect of editing the currently used configuration. I'd also thank anyone who can send a patch for the colinux.nsi script that points the users to the rootfs image download location and Wiki site. Thanks, -- Dan Aloni da...@co... |
From: Regis N. <re...@ho...> - 2004-04-02 14:54:05
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I'll modify the installer script. Regis NEBOR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Aloni" <da...@co...> To: "Cooperative Linux Development" <col...@li...> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:51 AM Subject: [coLinux-devel] XML configuration > Hello, > > Would anyone like to volunteer and create a GUI-based .colinux.xml > generator/editor ? It could help new users of coLinux and It doesn't > require any kernel programming experience in order to be developed. > > I'd prefer if you use the FLTK toolkit. We can later merge it into > the FLTK console so it would appear more like VMware from the aspect > of editing the currently used configuration. > > I'd also thank anyone who can send a patch for the colinux.nsi script > that points the users to the rootfs image download location and > Wiki site. > > Thanks, > > -- > Dan Aloni > da...@co... > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > |
From: Digital I. Inc. <ok...@di...> - 2004-04-02 19:10:00
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Umm.. Nobody wants to do it? Okay, It is easy. I will do it. >Hello, > >Would anyone like to volunteer and create a GUI-based .colinux.xml >generator/editor ? It could help new users of coLinux and It doesn't >require any kernel programming experience in order to be developed. > >I'd prefer if you use the FLTK toolkit. We can later merge it into >the FLTK console so it would appear more like VMware from the aspect >of editing the currently used configuration. > >I'd also thank anyone who can send a patch for the colinux.nsi script >that points the users to the rootfs image download location and >Wiki site. > >Thanks, > >-- >Dan Aloni >da...@co... > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >_______________________________________________ >coLinux-devel mailing list >coL...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > |
From: Regis N. <re...@ho...> - 2004-04-03 04:37:46
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Here it is. I merged my test.nsi in the current colinux.nsi. I didn't have the setup to test. It should just work or be really close to it :). Basically the installer can now download images from sourceforge on a totally random basis , or depending of the region. Regis NEBOR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Aloni" <da...@co...> To: "Cooperative Linux Development" <col...@li...> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:51 AM Subject: [coLinux-devel] XML configuration > Hello, > > Would anyone like to volunteer and create a GUI-based .colinux.xml > generator/editor ? It could help new users of coLinux and It doesn't > require any kernel programming experience in order to be developed. > > I'd prefer if you use the FLTK toolkit. We can later merge it into > the FLTK console so it would appear more like VMware from the aspect > of editing the currently used configuration. > > I'd also thank anyone who can send a patch for the colinux.nsi script > that points the users to the rootfs image download location and > Wiki site. > > Thanks, > > -- > Dan Aloni > da...@co... > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > |
From: Regis N. <re...@ho...> - 2004-04-03 05:01:17
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Little typo: colinux.nsi line 197 , read "iDl.ini" instead of "test.ini" test.nsi line 94 idem Regis NEBOR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Regis NEBOR" <re...@ho...> To: "Dan Aloni" <da...@co...> Cc: <col...@li...> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] XML configuration > Here it is. I merged my test.nsi in the current colinux.nsi. > I didn't have the setup to test. It should just work or be really close to > it :). > Basically the installer can now download images from sourceforge on a > totally random basis , or depending of the region. > > Regis NEBOR > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Aloni" <da...@co...> > To: "Cooperative Linux Development" <col...@li...> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:51 AM > Subject: [coLinux-devel] XML configuration > > > > Hello, > > > > Would anyone like to volunteer and create a GUI-based .colinux.xml > > generator/editor ? It could help new users of coLinux and It doesn't > > require any kernel programming experience in order to be developed. > > > > I'd prefer if you use the FLTK toolkit. We can later merge it into > > the FLTK console so it would appear more like VMware from the aspect > > of editing the currently used configuration. > > > > I'd also thank anyone who can send a patch for the colinux.nsi script > > that points the users to the rootfs image download location and > > Wiki site. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Dan Aloni > > da...@co... > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > > _______________________________________________ > > coLinux-devel mailing list > > coL...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > > > |
From: Bart K. <Bar...@su...> - 2004-04-06 14:27:39
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Digital Infra, Inc. wrote: > Umm.. Nobody wants to do it? Okay, It is easy. I will do it. It would be nice if this tool would have an option to be simular to a 'bootloader' (lilo eg) too - so it creates XML files and gives an option to "boot" coLinux based on a dynamic/statically created XML, this would enable to start with different kernels and network/disk configs from within ONE cL folder. Bart >>Would anyone like to volunteer and create a GUI-based .colinux.xml >>generator/editor ? It could help new users of coLinux and It doesn't >>require any kernel programming experience in order to be developed. >> >>I'd prefer if you use the FLTK toolkit. We can later merge it into >>the FLTK console so it would appear more like VMware from the aspect >>of editing the currently used configuration. >> >>I'd also thank anyone who can send a patch for the colinux.nsi script >>that points the users to the rootfs image download location and >>Wiki site. |
From: <ch...@to...> - 2004-04-06 15:04:33
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you can start the colinux daemon with a -c to use a config file other than the default. colinux-daemon.exe -c c:\colinux\other.colinux.xml you can create a .bat file for each config file. as far as I know -c is undocumented so I'll go add it to the wiki faq chris > > It would be nice if this tool would have an option to be simular to a > 'bootloader' (lilo eg) too - so it creates XML files and gives an option > to "boot" coLinux based on a dynamic/statically created XML, this would > enable to start with different kernels and network/disk configs from > within ONE cL folder. > > |
From: Digital I. Inc. <ok...@di...> - 2004-04-07 00:33:17
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I plan to add "extension linkage" ( <- is this right Windows term?). I will link .elf to coLinux loader. this is very easy "syntax sugar", but would be useful. I mean, if there is Apache.img and Apache.xml.elf, you can run "real" apache by double clicking Apache.xml.elf. Probably people think Windows runs Linux binary directly. is this enough for your demand? and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other name. your zip does not run. you have any idea? --- Okajima. > >It would be nice if this tool would have an option to be simular to a >'bootloader' (lilo eg) too - so it creates XML files and gives an option >to "boot" coLinux based on a dynamic/statically created XML, this would >enable to start with different kernels and network/disk configs from >within ONE cL folder. > > >Bart > > >>>Would anyone like to volunteer and create a GUI-based .colinux.xml >>>generator/editor ? It could help new users of coLinux and It doesn't >>>require any kernel programming experience in order to be developed. >>> >>>I'd prefer if you use the FLTK toolkit. We can later merge it into >>>the FLTK console so it would appear more like VMware from the aspect >>>of editing the currently used configuration. >>> >>>I'd also thank anyone who can send a patch for the colinux.nsi script >>>that points the users to the rootfs image download location and >>>Wiki site. > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >_______________________________________________ >coLinux-devel mailing list >coL...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > |
From: <ch...@to...> - 2004-04-07 10:43:51
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> > and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. > if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other name. > your zip does not run. you have any idea? > > --- Okajima. A little tip I found is that when adding cygwin directories to the windows path add them under user variables not under system variables. That way you can have an account that does not have access to them for testing unless the program finds the file without using PATH Okajima, does windows not complain that it cannot find a certian file? chris |
From: Digital I. Inc. <ok...@di...> - 2004-04-07 23:26:24
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Hello Chris and Kerver. thanks for advise. I want to confirm one thing - in your env, you can run startx.zip without /cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 ? for example, you do [Cygwin]$ mv /usr/bin/X11R6 /usr/bin/X11R6.notfound then you can run XWin.exe from startx.zip? at least, it fails in my env. Windows does not complain. Just Xwin.exe fails without any message. and I found that font files in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts are necessary. and it also requires /tmp. To make Cygwin/X installer, I have to fix what is really necessary. I hope you try it and send me the result. thanks in advance, Okajima. > >> >> and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. >> if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other name. >> your zip does not run. you have any idea? >> >> --- Okajima. > > >A little tip I found is that when adding cygwin directories to the windows >path add them under user variables not under system variables. That way >you can have an account that does not have access to them for testing >unless the program finds the file without using PATH > >Okajima, does windows not complain that it cannot find a certian file? > >chris > |
From: <ch...@to...> - 2004-04-07 23:43:54
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I have not tried it my self but I may give it a try to see what works. I was just basing my responce on my experience with trying to make programs that used other programs compiled with cyg. IMHO vnc would probably be better for coknoppix because of the single file viewer. Another thing I was thinking about is that the colinux-daemon may need a post boot command that you can add to the config file that will run after it is up and ready to accept the connection. Or have you already worked out a way to know when to run X so that it is not coming up before coLinux is ready? Is there a way to use the tap driver as a standalone program or will it have to be installed for the live cd to work. It would be so cool if a gui would just pop up and be ready to go the first time the cd is inserted with no interaction. chris > > > Hello Chris and Kerver. > > thanks for advise. > > I want to confirm one thing - > in your env, you can run startx.zip without /cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 ? > for example, you do > [Cygwin]$ mv /usr/bin/X11R6 /usr/bin/X11R6.notfound > then you can run XWin.exe from startx.zip? > > at least, it fails in my env. > Windows does not complain. Just Xwin.exe fails without any message. > and I found that font files in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts are necessary. > and it also requires /tmp. > > To make Cygwin/X installer, I have to fix what is really necessary. > > I hope you try it and send me the result. > > thanks in advance, Okajima. > > >> >>> >>> and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. >>> if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other >>> name. >>> your zip does not run. you have any idea? >>> >>> --- Okajima. >> >> >>A little tip I found is that when adding cygwin directories to the >> windows >>path add them under user variables not under system variables. That way >>you can have an account that does not have access to them for testing >>unless the program finds the file without using PATH >> >>Okajima, does windows not complain that it cannot find a certian file? >> >>chris >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > |
From: peter g. <plu...@p1...> - 2004-04-08 01:50:17
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i'm working on an alternative approach which shouldn't require any special drivers on the host when finished the basic idea is to use a dnat to direct all outgoing connections to a local daemon this will pick them up as connections (note connections not packets) and will then communicate in some manner with a daemon on the host (i've yet to work out exactly how to do this) this daemon will then use normal winsock calls to connect to the destination. -----Original Message----- From: col...@li... [mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of ch...@to... Sent: 08 April 2004 00:44 To: Digital Infra, Inc. Cc: ch...@to...; Bart Kerver; Cooperative Linux Development Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] XML configuration I have not tried it my self but I may give it a try to see what works. I was just basing my responce on my experience with trying to make programs that used other programs compiled with cyg. IMHO vnc would probably be better for coknoppix because of the single file viewer. Another thing I was thinking about is that the colinux-daemon may need a post boot command that you can add to the config file that will run after it is up and ready to accept the connection. Or have you already worked out a way to know when to run X so that it is not coming up before coLinux is ready? Is there a way to use the tap driver as a standalone program or will it have to be installed for the live cd to work. It would be so cool if a gui would just pop up and be ready to go the first time the cd is inserted with no interaction. chris > > > Hello Chris and Kerver. > > thanks for advise. > > I want to confirm one thing - > in your env, you can run startx.zip without /cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 ? > for example, you do > [Cygwin]$ mv /usr/bin/X11R6 /usr/bin/X11R6.notfound > then you can run XWin.exe from startx.zip? > > at least, it fails in my env. > Windows does not complain. Just Xwin.exe fails without any message. > and I found that font files in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts are necessary. > and it also requires /tmp. > > To make Cygwin/X installer, I have to fix what is really necessary. > > I hope you try it and send me the result. > > thanks in advance, Okajima. > > >> >>> >>> and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. >>> if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other >>> name. >>> your zip does not run. you have any idea? >>> >>> --- Okajima. >> >> >>A little tip I found is that when adding cygwin directories to the >> windows >>path add them under user variables not under system variables. That way >>you can have an account that does not have access to them for testing >>unless the program finds the file without using PATH >> >>Okajima, does windows not complain that it cannot find a certian file? >> >>chris >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click _______________________________________________ coLinux-devel mailing list coL...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.648 / Virus Database: 415 - Release Date: 31/03/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.648 / Virus Database: 415 - Release Date: 31/03/2004 |
From: Digital I. Inc. <ok...@di...> - 2004-04-08 02:22:59
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what is dnat? ... anyway, if you mention about how to share one IP, I think using RRAS ([Control Panel]->[Service]->[Routing and Remote Access] on Win2k/XP) is one candidate. I have not tested it, but I heard that it is generic NAT driver for Win. --- Okajima. >i'm working on an alternative approach which shouldn't require any special >drivers on the host when finished > >the basic idea is to use a dnat to direct all outgoing connections to a >local daemon > >this will pick them up as connections (note connections not packets) and >will then communicate in some manner with a daemon on the host (i've yet to >work out exactly how to do this) this daemon will then use normal winsock >calls to connect to the destination. > >-----Original Message----- >From: col...@li... >[mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of >ch...@to... >Sent: 08 April 2004 00:44 >To: Digital Infra, Inc. >Cc: ch...@to...; Bart Kerver; Cooperative Linux Development >Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] XML configuration > > >I have not tried it my self but I may give it a try to see what works. >I was just basing my responce on my experience with trying to make >programs that used other programs compiled with cyg. > >IMHO vnc would probably be better for coknoppix because of the single file >viewer. > >Another thing I was thinking about is that the colinux-daemon may need a >post boot command that you can add to the config file that will run after >it is up and ready to accept the connection. > >Or have you already worked out a way to know when to run X so that it is >not coming up before coLinux is ready? > >Is there a way to use the tap driver as a standalone program or will it >have to be installed for the live cd to work. It would be so cool if a gui >would just pop up and be ready to go the first time the cd is inserted >with no interaction. > >chris > >> >> >> Hello Chris and Kerver. >> >> thanks for advise. >> >> I want to confirm one thing - >> in your env, you can run startx.zip without /cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 ? >> for example, you do >> [Cygwin]$ mv /usr/bin/X11R6 /usr/bin/X11R6.notfound >> then you can run XWin.exe from startx.zip? >> >> at least, it fails in my env. >> Windows does not complain. Just Xwin.exe fails without any message. >> and I found that font files in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts are necessary. >> and it also requires /tmp. >> >> To make Cygwin/X installer, I have to fix what is really necessary. >> >> I hope you try it and send me the result. >> >> thanks in advance, Okajima. >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. >>>> if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other >>>> name. >>>> your zip does not run. you have any idea? >>>> >>>> --- Okajima. >>> >>> >>>A little tip I found is that when adding cygwin directories to the >>> windows >>>path add them under user variables not under system variables. That way >>>you can have an account that does not have access to them for testing >>>unless the program finds the file without using PATH >>> >>>Okajima, does windows not complain that it cannot find a certian file? >>> >>>chris >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >> Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >> GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >> administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> coLinux-devel mailing list >> coL...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >_______________________________________________ >coLinux-devel mailing list >coL...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.648 / Virus Database: 415 - Release Date: 31/03/2004 > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.648 / Virus Database: 415 - Release Date: 31/03/2004 > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >_______________________________________________ >coLinux-devel mailing list >coL...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > |
From: peter g. <plu...@p1...> - 2004-04-08 12:13:55
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DNAT is destination NAT an iptables feature DNAT changes the destination (as apposed to the more common snat which changes the source) a daemon runs on the linux side and listens for connections on port 9999 adressess like 127.0.0.0/8 are cidr addresses the /8 part means the first 8 bits are significant so in this case it would match everthing from 127.0.0.0 to 127.255.255.255 a dnat entry redirects all outgoing TCP connections except those to 127.0.0.0/8 (and during development 10.0.0.0/8 but that will be removed later) to 127.0.0.1:9999 this daemon picks them up and works out thier original destination by reading /proc/net/tcp this will communicate with a daemon on the host side. during initial testing i will use tcp (yes i know this defeats the main object but it allows me to test before more suitable mechanisms are in place) but i am hopeing for some kind of generic char device that links to the stdin and stdout of a windows side app. the windows side app will make the conenctions like any other windows app. i will probabblly make it so that connecting to 192.0.2.0/24 makes a connection to 127.0.0.0/24 on the host i chose the 192.0.2.0 range because it is not allowed on the public internet and with it's documented intended use i find it unlikly that it will be used on a private network from rfc 3330 192.0.2.0/24 - This block is assigned as "TEST-NET" for use in documentation and example code. It is often used in conjunction with domain names example.com or example.net in vendor and protocol documentation. Addresses within this block should not appear on the public Internet. -----Original Message----- From: Digital Infra, Inc. [mailto:ok...@di...] Sent: 08 April 2004 03:23 To: peter green Cc: col...@li... Subject: coLinux NAT what is dnat? ... anyway, if you mention about how to share one IP, I think using RRAS ([Control Panel]->[Service]->[Routing and Remote Access] on Win2k/XP) is one candidate. I have not tested it, but I heard that it is generic NAT driver for Win. --- Okajima. >i'm working on an alternative approach which shouldn't require any special >drivers on the host when finished > >the basic idea is to use a dnat to direct all outgoing connections to a >local daemon > >this will pick them up as connections (note connections not packets) and >will then communicate in some manner with a daemon on the host (i've yet to >work out exactly how to do this) this daemon will then use normal winsock >calls to connect to the destination. > >-----Original Message----- >From: col...@li... >[mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of >ch...@to... >Sent: 08 April 2004 00:44 >To: Digital Infra, Inc. >Cc: ch...@to...; Bart Kerver; Cooperative Linux Development >Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] XML configuration > > >I have not tried it my self but I may give it a try to see what works. >I was just basing my responce on my experience with trying to make >programs that used other programs compiled with cyg. > >IMHO vnc would probably be better for coknoppix because of the single file >viewer. > >Another thing I was thinking about is that the colinux-daemon may need a >post boot command that you can add to the config file that will run after >it is up and ready to accept the connection. > >Or have you already worked out a way to know when to run X so that it is >not coming up before coLinux is ready? > >Is there a way to use the tap driver as a standalone program or will it >have to be installed for the live cd to work. It would be so cool if a gui >would just pop up and be ready to go the first time the cd is inserted >with no interaction. > >chris > >> >> >> Hello Chris and Kerver. >> >> thanks for advise. >> >> I want to confirm one thing - >> in your env, you can run startx.zip without /cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 ? >> for example, you do >> [Cygwin]$ mv /usr/bin/X11R6 /usr/bin/X11R6.notfound >> then you can run XWin.exe from startx.zip? >> >> at least, it fails in my env. >> Windows does not complain. Just Xwin.exe fails without any message. >> and I found that font files in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts are necessary. >> and it also requires /tmp. >> >> To make Cygwin/X installer, I have to fix what is really necessary. >> >> I hope you try it and send me the result. >> >> thanks in advance, Okajima. >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. >>>> if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other >>>> name. >>>> your zip does not run. you have any idea? >>>> >>>> --- Okajima. >>> >>> >>>A little tip I found is that when adding cygwin directories to the >>> windows >>>path add them under user variables not under system variables. That way >>>you can have an account that does not have access to them for testing >>>unless the program finds the file without using PATH >>> >>>Okajima, does windows not complain that it cannot find a certian file? >>> >>>chris >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >> Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >> GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >> administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> coLinux-devel mailing list >> coL...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >GenToo technologies. 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From: Digital I. Inc. <ok...@di...> - 2004-04-08 13:49:02
|
Hello green. You are the guy talked about slirp on irc? yes, your invention is good. but I guess Windows RRAS can do almost same stuff. --- Okajima. >DNAT is destination NAT an iptables feature > >DNAT changes the destination (as apposed to the more common snat which >changes the source) > >a daemon runs on the linux side and listens for connections on port 9999 > >adressess like 127.0.0.0/8 are cidr addresses the /8 part means the first 8 >bits are significant so in this case it would match everthing from 127.0.0.0 >to 127.255.255.255 > >a dnat entry redirects all outgoing TCP connections except those to >127.0.0.0/8 (and during development 10.0.0.0/8 but that will be removed >later) to 127.0.0.1:9999 > >this daemon picks them up and works out thier original destination by >reading /proc/net/tcp > >this will communicate with a daemon on the host side. during initial testing >i will use tcp (yes i know this defeats the main object but it allows me to >test before more suitable mechanisms are in place) but i am hopeing for some >kind of generic char device that links to the stdin and stdout of a windows >side app. > >the windows side app will make the conenctions like any other windows app. > >i will probabblly make it so that connecting to 192.0.2.0/24 makes a >connection to 127.0.0.0/24 on the host > >i chose the 192.0.2.0 range because it is not allowed on the public internet >and with it's documented intended use i find it unlikly that it will be used >on a private network > >from rfc 3330 >192.0.2.0/24 - This block is assigned as "TEST-NET" for use in > documentation and example code. It is often used in conjunction with > domain names example.com or example.net in vendor and protocol > documentation. Addresses within this block should not appear on the > public Internet. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Digital Infra, Inc. [mailto:ok...@di...] >Sent: 08 April 2004 03:23 >To: peter green >Cc: col...@li... >Subject: coLinux NAT > > > >what is dnat? > >... anyway, if you mention about how to share one IP, >I think using RRAS > ([Control Panel]->[Service]->[Routing and Remote Access] on Win2k/XP) >is one candidate. >I have not tested it, but I heard that it is generic NAT driver for Win. > > --- Okajima. > > >>i'm working on an alternative approach which shouldn't require any special >>drivers on the host when finished >> >>the basic idea is to use a dnat to direct all outgoing connections to a >>local daemon >> >>this will pick them up as connections (note connections not packets) and >>will then communicate in some manner with a daemon on the host (i've yet to >>work out exactly how to do this) this daemon will then use normal winsock >>calls to connect to the destination. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: col...@li... >>[mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of >>ch...@to... >>Sent: 08 April 2004 00:44 >>To: Digital Infra, Inc. >>Cc: ch...@to...; Bart Kerver; Cooperative Linux Development >>Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] XML configuration >> >> >>I have not tried it my self but I may give it a try to see what works. >>I was just basing my responce on my experience with trying to make >>programs that used other programs compiled with cyg. >> >>IMHO vnc would probably be better for coknoppix because of the single file >>viewer. >> >>Another thing I was thinking about is that the colinux-daemon may need a >>post boot command that you can add to the config file that will run after >>it is up and ready to accept the connection. >> >>Or have you already worked out a way to know when to run X so that it is >>not coming up before coLinux is ready? >> >>Is there a way to use the tap driver as a standalone program or will it >>have to be installed for the live cd to work. It would be so cool if a gui >>would just pop up and be ready to go the first time the cd is inserted >>with no interaction. >> >>chris >> >>> >>> >>> Hello Chris and Kerver. >>> >>> thanks for advise. >>> >>> I want to confirm one thing - >>> in your env, you can run startx.zip without /cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 ? >>> for example, you do >>> [Cygwin]$ mv /usr/bin/X11R6 /usr/bin/X11R6.notfound >>> then you can run XWin.exe from startx.zip? >>> >>> at least, it fails in my env. >>> Windows does not complain. Just Xwin.exe fails without any message. >>> and I found that font files in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts are >necessary. >>> and it also requires /tmp. >>> >>> To make Cygwin/X installer, I have to fix what is really necessary. >>> >>> I hope you try it and send me the result. >>> >>> thanks in advance, Okajima. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. >>>>> if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other >>>>> name. >>>>> your zip does not run. you have any idea? >>>>> >>>>> --- Okajima. >>>> >>>> >>>>A little tip I found is that when adding cygwin directories to the >>>> windows >>>>path add them under user variables not under system variables. That way >>>>you can have an account that does not have access to them for testing >>>>unless the program finds the file without using PATH >>>> >>>>Okajima, does windows not complain that it cannot find a certian file? >>>> >>>>chris >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >>> Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >>> GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >>> administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >>> _______________________________________________ >>> coLinux-devel mailing list >>> coL...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >>Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >>GenToo technologies. 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From: peter g. <plu...@p1...> - 2004-04-08 14:05:36
|
yeah i tryed slirp but for me at least it plain would not work on cygwin (despite info on the web saying it would) and yes i am plugwash on irc also i'm pretty sure the remote access server is a feature only found in the server versions of windows i certainly can't find any mention of it in the services section on my xp home system and i getting the feeling that it would need as much configuration as windows internet connection shareing and the tap driver do there is a big difference between what is workable in a permanent install by a knowlageable user and what is workable for a conoppix type system i can build this system i describe myself all i need from you is a generic char mode device linking to stdin and stdout of my windows side app -----Original Message----- From: Digital Infra, Inc. [mailto:ok...@di...] Sent: 08 April 2004 14:47 To: peter green Cc: col...@li... Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] RE: coLinux NAT Hello green. You are the guy talked about slirp on irc? yes, your invention is good. but I guess Windows RRAS can do almost same stuff. --- Okajima. >DNAT is destination NAT an iptables feature > >DNAT changes the destination (as apposed to the more common snat which >changes the source) > >a daemon runs on the linux side and listens for connections on port 9999 > >adressess like 127.0.0.0/8 are cidr addresses the /8 part means the first 8 >bits are significant so in this case it would match everthing from 127.0.0.0 >to 127.255.255.255 > >a dnat entry redirects all outgoing TCP connections except those to >127.0.0.0/8 (and during development 10.0.0.0/8 but that will be removed >later) to 127.0.0.1:9999 > >this daemon picks them up and works out thier original destination by >reading /proc/net/tcp > >this will communicate with a daemon on the host side. during initial testing >i will use tcp (yes i know this defeats the main object but it allows me to >test before more suitable mechanisms are in place) but i am hopeing for some >kind of generic char device that links to the stdin and stdout of a windows >side app. > >the windows side app will make the conenctions like any other windows app. > >i will probabblly make it so that connecting to 192.0.2.0/24 makes a >connection to 127.0.0.0/24 on the host > >i chose the 192.0.2.0 range because it is not allowed on the public internet >and with it's documented intended use i find it unlikly that it will be used >on a private network > >from rfc 3330 >192.0.2.0/24 - This block is assigned as "TEST-NET" for use in > documentation and example code. It is often used in conjunction with > domain names example.com or example.net in vendor and protocol > documentation. Addresses within this block should not appear on the > public Internet. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Digital Infra, Inc. [mailto:ok...@di...] >Sent: 08 April 2004 03:23 >To: peter green >Cc: col...@li... >Subject: coLinux NAT > > > >what is dnat? > >... anyway, if you mention about how to share one IP, >I think using RRAS > ([Control Panel]->[Service]->[Routing and Remote Access] on Win2k/XP) >is one candidate. >I have not tested it, but I heard that it is generic NAT driver for Win. > > --- Okajima. > > >>i'm working on an alternative approach which shouldn't require any special >>drivers on the host when finished >> >>the basic idea is to use a dnat to direct all outgoing connections to a >>local daemon >> >>this will pick them up as connections (note connections not packets) and >>will then communicate in some manner with a daemon on the host (i've yet to >>work out exactly how to do this) this daemon will then use normal winsock >>calls to connect to the destination. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: col...@li... >>[mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of >>ch...@to... >>Sent: 08 April 2004 00:44 >>To: Digital Infra, Inc. >>Cc: ch...@to...; Bart Kerver; Cooperative Linux Development >>Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] XML configuration >> >> >>I have not tried it my self but I may give it a try to see what works. >>I was just basing my responce on my experience with trying to make >>programs that used other programs compiled with cyg. >> >>IMHO vnc would probably be better for coknoppix because of the single file >>viewer. >> >>Another thing I was thinking about is that the colinux-daemon may need a >>post boot command that you can add to the config file that will run after >>it is up and ready to accept the connection. >> >>Or have you already worked out a way to know when to run X so that it is >>not coming up before coLinux is ready? >> >>Is there a way to use the tap driver as a standalone program or will it >>have to be installed for the live cd to work. It would be so cool if a gui >>would just pop up and be ready to go the first time the cd is inserted >>with no interaction. >> >>chris >> >>> >>> >>> Hello Chris and Kerver. >>> >>> thanks for advise. >>> >>> I want to confirm one thing - >>> in your env, you can run startx.zip without /cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 ? >>> for example, you do >>> [Cygwin]$ mv /usr/bin/X11R6 /usr/bin/X11R6.notfound >>> then you can run XWin.exe from startx.zip? >>> >>> at least, it fails in my env. >>> Windows does not complain. Just Xwin.exe fails without any message. >>> and I found that font files in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts are >necessary. >>> and it also requires /tmp. >>> >>> To make Cygwin/X installer, I have to fix what is really necessary. >>> >>> I hope you try it and send me the result. >>> >>> thanks in advance, Okajima. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. >>>>> if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other >>>>> name. >>>>> your zip does not run. you have any idea? >>>>> >>>>> --- Okajima. >>>> >>>> >>>>A little tip I found is that when adding cygwin directories to the >>>> windows >>>>path add them under user variables not under system variables. That way >>>>you can have an account that does not have access to them for testing >>>>unless the program finds the file without using PATH >>>> >>>>Okajima, does windows not complain that it cannot find a certian file? >>>> >>>>chris >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >>> Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >>> GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >>> administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >>> _______________________________________________ >>> coLinux-devel mailing list >>> coL...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >>Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >>GenToo technologies. 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From: Digital I. Inc. <ok...@di...> - 2004-04-09 10:20:03
|
Hello Peter "plugwash" Green. I understand who you are. well, okay, on my XP ( Professional Japanese edition), it has RRAS on [Service] section. and I pushed "start", it said it started successfully. so I think my XP must have the RRAS function, even I dont know how to use it ;-). you dont have this? check your control panel again, please. but I had noticed one issue - when I googled with Engilish mode, most site says about Windows server. but I googled with Japanese, they say about just Windows, not focused on server. so I suppose that there is possiblity that only Japanese edition has RRAS. Anyway, your invention is good. Lets keep considering BOTH possiblities. I think it is not time to fix to one plan. and probably some guy on the earth has same plan. so what we have to do now is, googling, googling, googling,,,,. --- Okajima. >yeah i tryed slirp but for me at least it plain would not work on cygwin >(despite info on the web saying it would) and yes i am plugwash on irc > >also i'm pretty sure the remote access server is a feature only found in the >server versions of windows i certainly can't find any mention of it in the >services section on my xp home system > >and i getting the feeling that it would need as much configuration as >windows internet connection shareing and the tap driver do > >there is a big difference between what is workable in a permanent install by >a knowlageable user and what is workable for a conoppix type system > >i can build this system i describe myself all i need from you is a generic >char mode device linking to stdin and stdout of my windows side app > >-----Original Message----- >From: Digital Infra, Inc. [mailto:ok...@di...] >Sent: 08 April 2004 14:47 >To: peter green >Cc: col...@li... >Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] RE: coLinux NAT > > > >Hello green. > >You are the guy talked about slirp on irc? > >yes, your invention is good. >but I guess Windows RRAS can do almost same stuff. > > --- Okajima. > > >>DNAT is destination NAT an iptables feature >> >>DNAT changes the destination (as apposed to the more common snat which >>changes the source) >> >>a daemon runs on the linux side and listens for connections on port 9999 >> >>adressess like 127.0.0.0/8 are cidr addresses the /8 part means the first 8 >>bits are significant so in this case it would match everthing from >127.0.0.0 >>to 127.255.255.255 >> >>a dnat entry redirects all outgoing TCP connections except those to >>127.0.0.0/8 (and during development 10.0.0.0/8 but that will be removed >>later) to 127.0.0.1:9999 >> >>this daemon picks them up and works out thier original destination by >>reading /proc/net/tcp >> >>this will communicate with a daemon on the host side. during initial >testing >>i will use tcp (yes i know this defeats the main object but it allows me to >>test before more suitable mechanisms are in place) but i am hopeing for >some >>kind of generic char device that links to the stdin and stdout of a windows >>side app. >> >>the windows side app will make the conenctions like any other windows app. >> >>i will probabblly make it so that connecting to 192.0.2.0/24 makes a >>connection to 127.0.0.0/24 on the host >> >>i chose the 192.0.2.0 range because it is not allowed on the public >internet >>and with it's documented intended use i find it unlikly that it will be >used >>on a private network >> >>from rfc 3330 >>192.0.2.0/24 - This block is assigned as "TEST-NET" for use in >> documentation and example code. It is often used in conjunction with >> domain names example.com or example.net in vendor and protocol >> documentation. Addresses within this block should not appear on the >> public Internet. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Digital Infra, Inc. [mailto:ok...@di...] >>Sent: 08 April 2004 03:23 >>To: peter green >>Cc: col...@li... >>Subject: coLinux NAT >> >> >> >>what is dnat? >> >>... anyway, if you mention about how to share one IP, >>I think using RRAS >> ([Control Panel]->[Service]->[Routing and Remote Access] on Win2k/XP) >>is one candidate. >>I have not tested it, but I heard that it is generic NAT driver for Win. >> >> --- Okajima. >> >> >>>i'm working on an alternative approach which shouldn't require any special >>>drivers on the host when finished >>> >>>the basic idea is to use a dnat to direct all outgoing connections to a >>>local daemon >>> >>>this will pick them up as connections (note connections not packets) and >>>will then communicate in some manner with a daemon on the host (i've yet >to >>>work out exactly how to do this) this daemon will then use normal winsock >>>calls to connect to the destination. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: col...@li... >>>[mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of >>>ch...@to... >>>Sent: 08 April 2004 00:44 >>>To: Digital Infra, Inc. >>>Cc: ch...@to...; Bart Kerver; Cooperative Linux Development >>>Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] XML configuration >>> >>> >>>I have not tried it my self but I may give it a try to see what works. >>>I was just basing my responce on my experience with trying to make >>>programs that used other programs compiled with cyg. >>> >>>IMHO vnc would probably be better for coknoppix because of the single file >>>viewer. >>> >>>Another thing I was thinking about is that the colinux-daemon may need a >>>post boot command that you can add to the config file that will run after >>>it is up and ready to accept the connection. >>> >>>Or have you already worked out a way to know when to run X so that it is >>>not coming up before coLinux is ready? >>> >>>Is there a way to use the tap driver as a standalone program or will it >>>have to be installed for the live cd to work. It would be so cool if a gui >>>would just pop up and be ready to go the first time the cd is inserted >>>with no interaction. >>> >>>chris >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello Chris and Kerver. >>>> >>>> thanks for advise. >>>> >>>> I want to confirm one thing - >>>> in your env, you can run startx.zip without /cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 ? >>>> for example, you do >>>> [Cygwin]$ mv /usr/bin/X11R6 /usr/bin/X11R6.notfound >>>> then you can run XWin.exe from startx.zip? >>>> >>>> at least, it fails in my env. >>>> Windows does not complain. Just Xwin.exe fails without any message. >>>> and I found that font files in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts are >>necessary. >>>> and it also requires /tmp. >>>> >>>> To make Cygwin/X installer, I have to fix what is really necessary. >>>> >>>> I hope you try it and send me the result. >>>> >>>> thanks in advance, Okajima. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. >>>>>> if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other >>>>>> name. >>>>>> your zip does not run. you have any idea? >>>>>> >>>>>> --- Okajima. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>A little tip I found is that when adding cygwin directories to the >>>>> windows >>>>>path add them under user variables not under system variables. That way >>>>>you can have an account that does not have access to them for testing >>>>>unless the program finds the file without using PATH >>>>> >>>>>Okajima, does windows not complain that it cannot find a certian file? >>>>> >>>>>chris >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >>>> Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >>>> GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >>>> administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> coLinux-devel mailing list >>>> coL...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >>>Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >>>GenToo technologies. 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From: <ch...@to...> - 2004-04-08 17:36:23
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I downloaded startx.zip today and renamed my c:\cygwin It did not work. I checked out what is going on with filemonitor and registry monitor from sysinternals. It actually looks for lots of files including /etc/passwd and /etc/groups the big problem seems to be the /tmp and the fonts when I created a c:\cygwin\tmp it created a log and it seems to be that the fonts are the point of failure. It seems to get c:\cygwin from HKCU I created a new user and when running under the new user it started looking for the files in c:\etc.... c:\usr...... I really don't think making cygwin's version of X portable would be a trivial matter. Okajima, Do you have a reason for wanting X instead of vnc for coKnoppix? The windows vnc client uses the registry too but changing that code to skip the startup dialog and use an address passed on the commandline would probably be trivial ( I don't know that may be posible already chris > > > > Hello Chris and Kerver. > > thanks for advise. > > I want to confirm one thing - > in your env, you can run startx.zip without /cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 ? > for example, you do > [Cygwin]$ mv /usr/bin/X11R6 /usr/bin/X11R6.notfound > then you can run XWin.exe from startx.zip? > > at least, it fails in my env. > Windows does not complain. Just Xwin.exe fails without any message. > and I found that font files in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts are necessary. > and it also requires /tmp. > > To make Cygwin/X installer, I have to fix what is really necessary. > > I hope you try it and send me the result. > > thanks in advance, Okajima. > > >> >>> >>> and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. >>> if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other >>> name. >>> your zip does not run. you have any idea? >>> >>> --- Okajima. >> >> >>A little tip I found is that when adding cygwin directories to the >> windows >>path add them under user variables not under system variables. That way >>you can have an account that does not have access to them for testing >>unless the program finds the file without using PATH >> >>Okajima, does windows not complain that it cannot find a certian file? >> >>chris >> > |
From: Digital I. Inc. <ok...@di...> - 2004-04-09 10:19:58
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Hello Chris, I have no reason to stick to Cygwin/X. So I also consider possiblity of VNC too. and I will write coLinux frame buffer with DirectX accelarated, I totally have no reason to stick to Cygwin/X. I just want to investigate every possibility before I do something actually. I believe that slow start with a right plan reachs the goal faster. the biggest problem would be, I have very little knowledge of Linux as client PC. I usually use Windows as client, and Linux as server. For me, Linux means an unfancy window called "Putty" or "Tera Term". --- Okajima. > >I downloaded startx.zip today and renamed my c:\cygwin It did not work. >I checked out what is going on with filemonitor and registry monitor from >sysinternals. > >It actually looks for lots of files including /etc/passwd and /etc/groups >the big problem seems to be the /tmp and the fonts when I created a >c:\cygwin\tmp it created a log and it seems to be that the fonts are the >point of failure. > >It seems to get c:\cygwin from HKCU I created a new user and when running >under the new user it started looking for the files in c:\etc.... >c:\usr...... > >I really don't think making cygwin's version of X portable would be a >trivial matter. > >Okajima, >Do you have a reason for wanting X instead of vnc for coKnoppix? >The windows vnc client uses the registry too but changing that code to >skip the startup dialog and use an address passed on the commandline would >probably be trivial ( I don't know that may be posible already > >chris > >> >> >> >> Hello Chris and Kerver. >> >> thanks for advise. >> >> I want to confirm one thing - >> in your env, you can run startx.zip without /cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 ? >> for example, you do >> [Cygwin]$ mv /usr/bin/X11R6 /usr/bin/X11R6.notfound >> then you can run XWin.exe from startx.zip? >> >> at least, it fails in my env. >> Windows does not complain. Just Xwin.exe fails without any message. >> and I found that font files in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts are necessary. >> and it also requires /tmp. >> >> To make Cygwin/X installer, I have to fix what is really necessary. >> >> I hope you try it and send me the result. >> >> thanks in advance, Okajima. >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. >>>> if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other >>>> name. >>>> your zip does not run. you have any idea? >>>> >>>> --- Okajima. >>> >>> >>>A little tip I found is that when adding cygwin directories to the >>> windows >>>path add them under user variables not under system variables. That way >>>you can have an account that does not have access to them for testing >>>unless the program finds the file without using PATH >>> >>>Okajima, does windows not complain that it cannot find a certian file? >>> >>>chris >>> >> > |
From: <ch...@to...> - 2004-04-09 12:08:31
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> > Hello Chris, > > I have no reason to stick to Cygwin/X. > So I also consider possiblity of VNC too. > and I will write coLinux frame buffer with DirectX accelarated, > I totally have no reason to stick to Cygwin/X. > > I just want to investigate every possibility > before I do something actually. > I believe that slow start with a right plan reachs the goal faster. I agree 100% Take as many Ideas as possible and pick the best ones investigate everything. That is why my contributions to the X part of the wiki are so different. My opinion so far is that vnc would be better and easier for presenting a linux desktop as a whole in a window. But X has some interesting posibilities for having the applications integrated with windows ( rootless and multiwindow mode ) I have looked into NX a little after seeing the thread about it a few days ago. Looks like the components are GPL but the integration is the only part that is closed. So I may look at some of the components to see if they would be helpfull. > > the biggest problem would be, I have very little knowledge of Linux as > client PC. I use Linux as a desktop alot. I guess some things to think about would be what software to include. That can get trickey expecially the choice of desktop environment. There are choices to make like should something that works just as good on windows like openoffice be included? > I usually use Windows as client, and Linux as server. > For me, Linux means an unfancy window called "Putty" or "Tera Term". > > --- Okajima. > >> chris >>I downloaded startx.zip today and renamed my c:\cygwin It did not work. >>I checked out what is going on with filemonitor and registry monitor from >>sysinternals. >> >>It actually looks for lots of files including /etc/passwd and /etc/groups >>the big problem seems to be the /tmp and the fonts when I created a >>c:\cygwin\tmp it created a log and it seems to be that the fonts are the >>point of failure. >> >>It seems to get c:\cygwin from HKCU I created a new user and when running >>under the new user it started looking for the files in c:\etc.... >>c:\usr...... >> >>I really don't think making cygwin's version of X portable would be a >>trivial matter. >> >>Okajima, >>Do you have a reason for wanting X instead of vnc for coKnoppix? >>The windows vnc client uses the registry too but changing that code to >>skip the startup dialog and use an address passed on the commandline >> would >>probably be trivial ( I don't know that may be posible already >> >>chris >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello Chris and Kerver. >>> >>> thanks for advise. >>> >>> I want to confirm one thing - >>> in your env, you can run startx.zip without /cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 ? >>> for example, you do >>> [Cygwin]$ mv /usr/bin/X11R6 /usr/bin/X11R6.notfound >>> then you can run XWin.exe from startx.zip? >>> >>> at least, it fails in my env. >>> Windows does not complain. Just Xwin.exe fails without any message. >>> and I found that font files in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts are >>> necessary. >>> and it also requires /tmp. >>> >>> To make Cygwin/X installer, I have to fix what is really necessary. >>> >>> I hope you try it and send me the result. >>> >>> thanks in advance, Okajima. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> and Kerver, I found that your startx.zip needs full Cygwin/X install. >>>>> if you dont understand, change your c:/cygwin/usr/bin/X11R6 to other >>>>> name. >>>>> your zip does not run. you have any idea? >>>>> >>>>> --- Okajima. >>>> >>>> >>>>A little tip I found is that when adding cygwin directories to the >>>> windows >>>>path add them under user variables not under system variables. That way >>>>you can have an account that does not have access to them for testing >>>>unless the program finds the file without using PATH >>>> >>>>Okajima, does windows not complain that it cannot find a certian file? >>>> >>>>chris >>>> >>> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > |