From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-12-07 21:19:31
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Feature Requests item #2404479, was opened at 2008-12-07 21:19 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=370024&aid=2404479&group_id=20024 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: cdk.render Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: gilleain maclean torrance (gilleain) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: make jchempaint able to work properly on the mac Initial Comment: JChemPaint is currently designed for linux, and possibly windows. On the mac, it does not conform to application conventions. If there is a way to get it to do so for mac, and if that is a desirable thing (I certainly think so) then it needs to: 1) Use the proper shortcut modifier : it's not Ctrl, but the apple key. 2) Use standard shortcuts - Apple-W for close window, Apple-S for save, etc. 3) Closing the last window should probably not close the application. This could be a preference option. 4) Have a single top level menu, instead of a menu for each frame. Obviously this is a kind of wish list, and in no way vital, but these are the osx style guidelines, and users come to expect programs on the mac (even java programs) to play by these rules. I will be happy to implement/test/fix these things if they are seen as an okay possibility... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=370024&aid=2404479&group_id=20024 |
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-12-07 22:02:20
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Feature Requests item #2404479, was opened at 2008-12-07 16:19 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by rajarshi You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=370024&aid=2404479&group_id=20024 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: cdk.render Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: gilleain maclean torrance (gilleain) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: make jchempaint able to work properly on the mac Initial Comment: JChemPaint is currently designed for linux, and possibly windows. On the mac, it does not conform to application conventions. If there is a way to get it to do so for mac, and if that is a desirable thing (I certainly think so) then it needs to: 1) Use the proper shortcut modifier : it's not Ctrl, but the apple key. 2) Use standard shortcuts - Apple-W for close window, Apple-S for save, etc. 3) Closing the last window should probably not close the application. This could be a preference option. 4) Have a single top level menu, instead of a menu for each frame. Obviously this is a kind of wish list, and in no way vital, but these are the osx style guidelines, and users come to expect programs on the mac (even java programs) to play by these rules. I will be happy to implement/test/fix these things if they are seen as an okay possibility... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Rajarshi Guha (rajarshi) Date: 2008-12-07 16:43 Message: Sounds like good ideas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=370024&aid=2404479&group_id=20024 |
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-12-08 05:43:47
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Feature Requests item #2404479, was opened at 2008-12-07 22:19 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by egonw You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=370024&aid=2404479&group_id=20024 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: cdk.render Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: gilleain maclean torrance (gilleain) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: make jchempaint able to work properly on the mac Initial Comment: JChemPaint is currently designed for linux, and possibly windows. On the mac, it does not conform to application conventions. If there is a way to get it to do so for mac, and if that is a desirable thing (I certainly think so) then it needs to: 1) Use the proper shortcut modifier : it's not Ctrl, but the apple key. 2) Use standard shortcuts - Apple-W for close window, Apple-S for save, etc. 3) Closing the last window should probably not close the application. This could be a preference option. 4) Have a single top level menu, instead of a menu for each frame. Obviously this is a kind of wish list, and in no way vital, but these are the osx style guidelines, and users come to expect programs on the mac (even java programs) to play by these rules. I will be happy to implement/test/fix these things if they are seen as an okay possibility... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Egon Willighagen (egonw) Date: 2008-12-08 06:43 Message: > 1) Use the proper shortcut modifier : it's not Ctrl, but the apple key. Yes, makes sense. > 2) Use standard shortcuts - Apple-W for close window, Apple-S for save, etc. Agreed. Those match nowadays Linux conventions too. > 3) Closing the last window should probably not close the application. This > could be a preference option. Mmm... that was actually deliberately added to JCP at some point... what should be done when the last editing window is closed? > 4) Have a single top level menu, instead of a menu for each frame. Neither am I sure how to do this... can a Swing program have a floating singleton menu? Do you have example Swing code that does that? Egon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Rajarshi Guha (rajarshi) Date: 2008-12-07 22:43 Message: Sounds like good ideas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=370024&aid=2404479&group_id=20024 |
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2008-12-08 09:21:46
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Feature Requests item #2404479, was opened at 2008-12-07 21:19 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by gilleain You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=370024&aid=2404479&group_id=20024 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: cdk.render Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: gilleain maclean torrance (gilleain) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: make jchempaint able to work properly on the mac Initial Comment: JChemPaint is currently designed for linux, and possibly windows. On the mac, it does not conform to application conventions. If there is a way to get it to do so for mac, and if that is a desirable thing (I certainly think so) then it needs to: 1) Use the proper shortcut modifier : it's not Ctrl, but the apple key. 2) Use standard shortcuts - Apple-W for close window, Apple-S for save, etc. 3) Closing the last window should probably not close the application. This could be a preference option. 4) Have a single top level menu, instead of a menu for each frame. Obviously this is a kind of wish list, and in no way vital, but these are the osx style guidelines, and users come to expect programs on the mac (even java programs) to play by these rules. I will be happy to implement/test/fix these things if they are seen as an okay possibility... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: gilleain maclean torrance (gilleain) Date: 2008-12-08 09:21 Message: "what should be done when the last editing window is closed?" : The application should remain open. In fact, not all mac programs follow this convention, but it is very useful, as you get into the habit of closing the current document (with cmd-w), and if there is only one document, you don't have to re-start. "can a Swing program have a floating singleton menu? Do you have example Swing code that does that?" : Java on OSX handles this through special libraries, so it's not difficult to do. In fact, now that I look it up again, it's as simple as: -Dcom.apple.macos.useScreenMenuBar=true from this http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/JavaLP/JavaToMac/ page. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Egon Willighagen (egonw) Date: 2008-12-08 05:43 Message: > 1) Use the proper shortcut modifier : it's not Ctrl, but the apple key. Yes, makes sense. > 2) Use standard shortcuts - Apple-W for close window, Apple-S for save, etc. Agreed. Those match nowadays Linux conventions too. > 3) Closing the last window should probably not close the application. This > could be a preference option. Mmm... that was actually deliberately added to JCP at some point... what should be done when the last editing window is closed? > 4) Have a single top level menu, instead of a menu for each frame. Neither am I sure how to do this... can a Swing program have a floating singleton menu? Do you have example Swing code that does that? Egon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Rajarshi Guha (rajarshi) Date: 2008-12-07 21:43 Message: Sounds like good ideas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=370024&aid=2404479&group_id=20024 |