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From: Matt S. <ma...@se...> - 2011-10-17 19:58:48
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Rachel has access to the sf repository as admin, so that's not a problem (though I agree with moving to github). The problem is probably momentum now. This is a big project, and I don't understand a tenth of it. Matt. On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, Jonas B. Nielsen wrote: > What could our next step be? > > - Should we approach the Sourceforge administrators and take administrative ownership of the project? > - Should we just fork the project to Github and reboot the project? > - Leave things as they are? > > jonasbn > -- > AIM: BjonasN Gtalk: jo...@gm... > ICQ: 62401545 MSN: jo...@io... > twitter: jonasbn blog: http://e-diot.dk/ > > On 14/10/2011, at 16.06, Matt Sergeant wrote: > >> FWIW I did send a message. No response yet. >> >> I'm starting to think I need to consider porting DVD Spanner to Objective >> C. >> >> On 11-10-13 4:04 AM, "Jonas Br�ms� Nielsen" <jo...@gm...> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think it would be great if Sherm's project could live on. >>> >>> And I have confidence in Matt being the one approaching the relatives. >>> >>> >>> jonasbn >>> -- >>> AIM: BjonasN Gtalk: jo...@gm... >>> ICQ: 62401545 MSN: jo...@io... >>> twitter: jonasbn blog: http://e-diot.dk/ >>> >>> On 12/10/2011, at 21.59, Matt Sergeant wrote: >>> >>>> I have Sherm on facebook and it does list two family members on there. >>>> >>>> I'd be happy to approach one of them if people think that wouldn't be >>>> too awkward. >>>> >>>> Matt. >>>> >>>> From: Mark Anderson <em...@em...> >>>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:43:08 -0400 >>>> To: Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> >>>> Cc: <cam...@li...> >>>> Subject: Re: [Camelbones-devel] Future of CamelBones? >>>> >>>> I agree wholeheartedly. This was a great project, and it would be a >>>> shame to see it go. I'd be willing to help anyway I can. I can mostly >>>> only help coding, I only knew Sherm through Camelbones. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Rachel Blackman >>>> <sea...@ma...> wrote: >>>>> So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in >>>>> something of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've >>>>> wanted to see the project fade away, and I think seeing it properly >>>>> moved forward would be >>>>> >>>>> I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version >>>>> that statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. >>>>> That seems like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't >>>>> updated the SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And >>>>> but I don't know how to get in touch with his family to see if they >>>>> could get that off of his computer. >>>>> >>>>> So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try >>>>> to do the interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' >>>>> method, which was already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to >>>>> start over on all the changes he was making. :( >>>>> >>>>> Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and >>>>> carry CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be >>>>> scripted in Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps >>>>> to be written in Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> ------ >>>>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains >>>>> a >>>>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>>>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>>>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Camelbones-devel mailing list >>>>> Cam...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure >>>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, >>>> security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data >>>> and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________ >>>> ________ Camelbones-devel mailing list >>>> Cam...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- >>>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >>>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>>> >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________ >>>> ________ >>>> Camelbones-devel mailing list >>>> Cam...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Camelbones-devel mailing list >>> Cam...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >>> >> >> > > |
From: Jonas B. N. <jo...@gm...> - 2011-10-17 09:49:10
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What could our next step be? - Should we approach the Sourceforge administrators and take administrative ownership of the project? - Should we just fork the project to Github and reboot the project? - Leave things as they are? jonasbn -- AIM: BjonasN Gtalk: jo...@gm... ICQ: 62401545 MSN: jo...@io... twitter: jonasbn blog: http://e-diot.dk/ On 14/10/2011, at 16.06, Matt Sergeant wrote: > FWIW I did send a message. No response yet. > > I'm starting to think I need to consider porting DVD Spanner to Objective > C. > > On 11-10-13 4:04 AM, "Jonas Brømsø Nielsen" <jo...@gm...> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I think it would be great if Sherm's project could live on. >> >> And I have confidence in Matt being the one approaching the relatives. >> >> >> jonasbn >> -- >> AIM: BjonasN Gtalk: jo...@gm... >> ICQ: 62401545 MSN: jo...@io... >> twitter: jonasbn blog: http://e-diot.dk/ >> >> On 12/10/2011, at 21.59, Matt Sergeant wrote: >> >>> I have Sherm on facebook and it does list two family members on there. >>> >>> I'd be happy to approach one of them if people think that wouldn't be >>> too awkward. >>> >>> Matt. >>> >>> From: Mark Anderson <em...@em...> >>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:43:08 -0400 >>> To: Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> >>> Cc: <cam...@li...> >>> Subject: Re: [Camelbones-devel] Future of CamelBones? >>> >>> I agree wholeheartedly. This was a great project, and it would be a >>> shame to see it go. I'd be willing to help anyway I can. I can mostly >>> only help coding, I only knew Sherm through Camelbones. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Rachel Blackman >>> <sea...@ma...> wrote: >>>> So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in >>>> something of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've >>>> wanted to see the project fade away, and I think seeing it properly >>>> moved forward would be >>>> >>>> I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version >>>> that statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. >>>> That seems like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't >>>> updated the SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And >>>> but I don't know how to get in touch with his family to see if they >>>> could get that off of his computer. >>>> >>>> So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try >>>> to do the interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' >>>> method, which was already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to >>>> start over on all the changes he was making. :( >>>> >>>> Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and >>>> carry CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be >>>> scripted in Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps >>>> to be written in Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> ------ >>>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains >>>> a >>>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Camelbones-devel mailing list >>>> Cam...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure >>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, >>> security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data >>> and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________ >>> ________ Camelbones-devel mailing list >>> Cam...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- >>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>> >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________ >>> ________ >>> Camelbones-devel mailing list >>> Cam...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >> _______________________________________________ >> Camelbones-devel mailing list >> Cam...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >> > > |
From: Matt S. <ma...@se...> - 2011-10-14 14:06:40
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FWIW I did send a message. No response yet. I'm starting to think I need to consider porting DVD Spanner to Objective C. On 11-10-13 4:04 AM, "Jonas Brømsø Nielsen" <jo...@gm...> wrote: >Hi, > >I think it would be great if Sherm's project could live on. > >And I have confidence in Matt being the one approaching the relatives. > > >jonasbn >-- >AIM: BjonasN Gtalk: jo...@gm... >ICQ: 62401545 MSN: jo...@io... >twitter: jonasbn blog: http://e-diot.dk/ > >On 12/10/2011, at 21.59, Matt Sergeant wrote: > >> I have Sherm on facebook and it does list two family members on there. >> >> I'd be happy to approach one of them if people think that wouldn't be >>too awkward. >> >> Matt. >> >> From: Mark Anderson <em...@em...> >> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:43:08 -0400 >> To: Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> >> Cc: <cam...@li...> >> Subject: Re: [Camelbones-devel] Future of CamelBones? >> >> I agree wholeheartedly. This was a great project, and it would be a >>shame to see it go. I'd be willing to help anyway I can. I can mostly >>only help coding, I only knew Sherm through Camelbones. >> >> Mark >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Rachel Blackman >><sea...@ma...> wrote: >>> So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in >>>something of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've >>>wanted to see the project fade away, and I think seeing it properly >>>moved forward would be >>> >>> I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version >>>that statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. >>> That seems like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't >>>updated the SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And >>>but I don't know how to get in touch with his family to see if they >>>could get that off of his computer. >>> >>> So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try >>>to do the interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' >>>method, which was already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to >>>start over on all the changes he was making. :( >>> >>> Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and >>>carry CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be >>>scripted in Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps >>>to be written in Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>------ >>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains >>>a >>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Camelbones-devel mailing list >>> Cam...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>----- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure >>contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, >>security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data >>and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________ >>________ Camelbones-devel mailing list >>Cam...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>----- >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >> >>http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________ >>________ >> Camelbones-devel mailing list >> Cam...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- >All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >definitive record of customers, application performance, security >threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >_______________________________________________ >Camelbones-devel mailing list >Cam...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel > |
From: Jonas B. N. <jo...@gm...> - 2011-10-13 08:25:23
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Hi, I think it would be great if Sherm's project could live on. And I have confidence in Matt being the one approaching the relatives. jonasbn -- AIM: BjonasN Gtalk: jo...@gm... ICQ: 62401545 MSN: jo...@io... twitter: jonasbn blog: http://e-diot.dk/ On 12/10/2011, at 21.59, Matt Sergeant wrote: > I have Sherm on facebook and it does list two family members on there. > > I'd be happy to approach one of them if people think that wouldn't be too awkward. > > Matt. > > From: Mark Anderson <em...@em...> > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:43:08 -0400 > To: Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> > Cc: <cam...@li...> > Subject: Re: [Camelbones-devel] Future of CamelBones? > > I agree wholeheartedly. This was a great project, and it would be a shame to see it go. I'd be willing to help anyway I can. I can mostly only help coding, I only knew Sherm through Camelbones. > > Mark > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> wrote: >> So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in something of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've wanted to see the project fade away, and I think seeing it properly moved forward would be >> >> I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version that statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. That seems like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't updated the SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And but I don't know how to get in touch with his family to see if they could get that off of his computer. >> >> So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try to do the interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' method, which was already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to start over on all the changes he was making. :( >> >> Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and carry CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be scripted in Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps to be written in Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >> _______________________________________________ >> Camelbones-devel mailing list >> Cam...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________________ Camelbones-devel mailing list Cam...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________________ > Camelbones-devel mailing list > Cam...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel |
From: Sam M. <sa...@vi...> - 2011-10-12 20:32:32
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On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Matt Sergeant wrote: > I have Sherm on facebook and it does list two family members on there. > > I'd be happy to approach one of them if people think that wouldn't be too awkward. > > Matt. > > As much as it matters, I'd vote in favor of it. Also, I hadn't heard until this thread. I was a bit taken aback. -Sam |
From: Matt S. <ma...@se...> - 2011-10-12 20:16:10
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I have Sherm on facebook and it does list two family members on there. I'd be happy to approach one of them if people think that wouldn't be too awkward. Matt. From: Mark Anderson <em...@em...> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:43:08 -0400 To: Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> Cc: <cam...@li...> Subject: Re: [Camelbones-devel] Future of CamelBones? I agree wholeheartedly. This was a great project, and it would be a shame to see it go. I'd be willing to help anyway I can. I can mostly only help coding, I only knew Sherm through Camelbones. Mark On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> wrote: > So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in something > of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've wanted to see the > project fade away, and I think seeing it properly moved forward would be > > I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version that > statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. That seems > like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't updated the > SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And but I don't know how > to get in touch with his family to see if they could get that off of his > computer. > > So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try to do the > interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' method, which was > already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to start over on all the > changes he was making. :( > > Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and carry > CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be scripted in > Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps to be written in > Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct > _______________________________________________ > Camelbones-devel mailing list > Cam...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct__________________________________________ _____ Camelbones-devel mailing list Cam...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel |
From: Mark A. <em...@em...> - 2011-10-12 00:13:44
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I agree wholeheartedly. This was a great project, and it would be a shame to see it go. I'd be willing to help anyway I can. I can mostly only help coding, I only knew Sherm through Camelbones. Mark On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...>wrote: > So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in > something of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've wanted to > see the project fade away, and I think seeing it properly moved forward > would be > > I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version that > statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. That > seems like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't updated the > SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And but I don't know > how to get in touch with his family to see if they could get that off of his > computer. > > So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try to do > the interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' method, which > was already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to start over on all > the changes he was making. :( > > Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and carry > CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be scripted in > Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps to be written in > Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct > _______________________________________________ > Camelbones-devel mailing list > Cam...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel > |
From: Rachel B. <sea...@ma...> - 2011-10-11 23:31:58
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So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in something of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've wanted to see the project fade away, and I think seeing it properly moved forward would be I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version that statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. That seems like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't updated the SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And but I don't know how to get in touch with his family to see if they could get that off of his computer. So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try to do the interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' method, which was already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to start over on all the changes he was making. :( Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and carry CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be scripted in Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps to be written in Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? |
From: Pedro M. <me...@si...> - 2011-07-13 09:44:21
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Whoa.... :(( Very sad news indeed... On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Matt Sergeant <ma...@se...> wrote: > In case people haven't seen this elsewhere: > > http://www.hastingsfuneralhome.com/visitations/View.php?id=785 > > Very sad news. Sherm was always incredibly patient with me and my > questions, and was a great coder. > > I hope someone else can pick up this project, as it would be a sad loss to > the community. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric > Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on "Lean Startup > Secrets Revealed." This video shows you how to validate your ideas, > optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Camelbones-devel mailing list > Cam...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel > -- Pedro Melo @pedromelo http://www.simplicidade.org/ http://about.me/melo xmpp:me...@si... mailto:me...@si... |
From: Matt S. <ma...@se...> - 2011-07-13 08:30:16
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In case people haven't seen this elsewhere: http://www.hastingsfuneralhome.com/visitations/View.php?id=785 Very sad news. Sherm was always incredibly patient with me and my questions, and was a great coder. I hope someone else can pick up this project, as it would be a sad loss to the community. |
From: Sherm P. <she...@gm...> - 2011-04-30 23:43:54
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On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> wrote: > So, with Lion's release increasingly imminent, my question is whether or not there's a date for a Lion-capable release in sight. Not a graven-in-stone date, but I'd say weeks, not months. I've finally found a good job (yay!), and I'm officially paid up on the Mac App Store. So, I have access to Lion betas, and in a few weeks I'll be able to obtain an Apple-made Mac with which to run them honestly. The $64k question is, of course, when Lion itself will ship. AFAIK, Apple hasn't said. sherm-- -- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net |
From: Rachel B. <sea...@ma...> - 2011-04-30 18:54:16
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So, with Lion's release increasingly imminent, my question is whether or not there's a date for a Lion-capable release in sight. If not, I'll probably do what I did last time and hand-roll a Lion-capable CB bundle in order to ensure things still work on Lion, adding it into things and making a custom branch, just to keep things going for now. I hate doing that, though, because it's a) a huge headache, and b) sometimes breaks on certain machines. If there /is/, however, I'll probably finally kick my project to 1.0 (after five years...) and kill off Panther and Tiger support, or else modify the project to have two loadable bundles, one using the legacy CB (for Panther or Tiger), and one using the newer CB (for Leopard or later). |
From: Matt S. <ma...@se...> - 2011-03-04 18:28:38
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James Jones wrote: > I just learn about camel bones yesterday. I am really impressed > going to start playing with it. I am going to ask an obvious question. > Is this possible to use with IOS and if so has anyone gotten any > applications into the app store with it? Sadly not. It requires a full perl interpreter, so I don't think it's ever going to work there. |
From: James J. <ja...@fr...> - 2011-03-04 17:22:01
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Greetings, I just learn about camel bones yesterday. I am really impressed going to start playing with it. I am going to ask an obvious question. Is this possible to use with IOS and if so has anyone gotten any applications into the app store with it? |
From: Matt S. <ma...@se...> - 2011-02-28 15:54:29
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Is this a question? The answer should probably be yes, support just back to Leopard. Sherm Pendley wrote: > I think we should continue the pattern of supporting the current > version, and two releases back. With the proper build settings - i.e. > SDK& deployment target - the built-in Perl can use the latest SDK and > be binary compatible with an older OS release, so building separate > "support bundles" is no longer an issue. > > Assuming a release time near that of Lion, current - 2 would be > Leopard. Requiring Leopard as the minimum supported version makes some > interesting features available: > > * built-in .bridgesupport files. > * built-in libffi > * objective-c 2.0 runtime > > sherm-- > > |
From: Sherm P. <she...@gm...> - 2011-02-28 04:42:06
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I think we should continue the pattern of supporting the current version, and two releases back. With the proper build settings - i.e. SDK & deployment target - the built-in Perl can use the latest SDK and be binary compatible with an older OS release, so building separate "support bundles" is no longer an issue. Assuming a release time near that of Lion, current - 2 would be Leopard. Requiring Leopard as the minimum supported version makes some interesting features available: * built-in .bridgesupport files. * built-in libffi * objective-c 2.0 runtime sherm-- -- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net |
From: Sherm P. <she...@gm...> - 2011-02-15 21:22:17
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On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Thilo Planz <thi...@go...> wrote: >>> BTW: It worried me a little bit that apple's app store requires you to use >>> the Mac APIs for doing things like user data storage. Does that not allow me >>> to use DBI and SQLite for DVDSpanner? >> >> For what it's worth - I just pulled the trigger and signed up as a Mac >> App Store developer. I'll let y'all know whether a CamelBones app can >> make it through the approval process. > > How did that turn out? I haven't submitted any apps yet, CamelBones or not. > But they cannot really have a good reason against apps that bring their > own Perl, right? I wouldn't think so, especially if it uses Apple's official BridgeSupport files to manage its access to Cocoa APIs. That leaves Apple firmly in control of what and when APIs are available for bridged access. As I understand it, maintaining such control is at the heart of Apple's policies with respect to "foreign" language tools on iOS. sherm-- -- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net |
From: Thilo P. <thi...@go...> - 2011-02-15 04:52:41
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>> BTW: It worried me a little bit that apple's app store requires you to use >> the Mac APIs for doing things like user data storage. Does that not allow me >> to use DBI and SQLite for DVDSpanner? > > For what it's worth - I just pulled the trigger and signed up as a Mac > App Store developer. I'll let y'all know whether a CamelBones app can > make it through the approval process. How did that turn out? Seeing that Camelbones apps that link against the system Perl break every time Apple updates the OS, I can see that they would not like that. But they cannot really have a good reason against apps that bring their own Perl, right? And since the app store only supports 10.6+ on Intel, and we now have (or will soon have) the option to pick which core modules to include, that could be a really slim build. I wonder what they do with Java applications that include their own JVM. Thilo |
From: Sherm P. <she...@gm...> - 2011-01-27 17:24:47
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On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Matt Sergeant <ma...@se...> wrote: > > BTW: It worried me a little bit that apple's app store requires you to use > the Mac APIs for doing things like user data storage. Does that not allow me > to use DBI and SQLite for DVDSpanner? For what it's worth - I just pulled the trigger and signed up as a Mac App Store developer. I'll let y'all know whether a CamelBones app can make it through the approval process. sherm-- -- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net |
From: Matt S. <ma...@se...> - 2011-01-07 17:05:49
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Congrats Sherm - great news! Sherm Pendley wrote: > I've found a job! Yay! > > I think this will be good news for CamelBones. One major difficulty > I've been having in the past few years has been trying to justify, in > my own mind at least, the idea of spending time working on a free > project when I had no income. I've had all the time in the world to > spend on CamelBones, but I couldn't use it effectively because of that > doubt. Whenever I *did* try to work on it, I couldn't shake the > nagging thought that I was being irresponsible in doing so, and should > be spending my time trying to make a living instead. > > So, even though being employed means having far fewer hours available > for CamelBones work, it also means that those hours should be guilt- > and distraction-free, and much more effective as a result. > > Further, being employed means being able to invest in a real Mac made > by Apple some time soon, so I'll be able to develop for Lion as soon > as it's released. I might even be able to buy a paid ADC account, or > at least obtain seed access, to develop& test against Lion > pre-releases. My contacts @ Apple were quite generous in giving me > access to OS pre-releases in the past - although I haven't asked for > them since the Intel switch, since they obviously wouldn't run on a > Hackintosh. CamelBones support for a new OS version on the day of its > release would be quite an improvement, I think. :-) > > sherm-- > > |
From: Sherm P. <she...@gm...> - 2011-01-07 16:37:25
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I've found a job! Yay! I think this will be good news for CamelBones. One major difficulty I've been having in the past few years has been trying to justify, in my own mind at least, the idea of spending time working on a free project when I had no income. I've had all the time in the world to spend on CamelBones, but I couldn't use it effectively because of that doubt. Whenever I *did* try to work on it, I couldn't shake the nagging thought that I was being irresponsible in doing so, and should be spending my time trying to make a living instead. So, even though being employed means having far fewer hours available for CamelBones work, it also means that those hours should be guilt- and distraction-free, and much more effective as a result. Further, being employed means being able to invest in a real Mac made by Apple some time soon, so I'll be able to develop for Lion as soon as it's released. I might even be able to buy a paid ADC account, or at least obtain seed access, to develop & test against Lion pre-releases. My contacts @ Apple were quite generous in giving me access to OS pre-releases in the past - although I haven't asked for them since the Intel switch, since they obviously wouldn't run on a Hackintosh. CamelBones support for a new OS version on the day of its release would be quite an improvement, I think. :-) sherm-- -- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net |
From: Sherm P. <she...@gm...> - 2011-01-02 03:55:03
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I suppose one could argue that fread() & fwrite() are officially-supported Mac APIs, right? :-) sherm-- On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Matt Sergeant <ma...@se...> wrote: > Personally: Work. > > BTW: It worried me a little bit that apple's app store requires you to use > the Mac APIs for doing things like user data storage. Does that not allow me > to use DBI and SQLite for DVDSpanner? > > Sherm Pendley wrote: >> >> What would you rather see: >> >> a. CamelBones GameKit - CB + SDL = Games! >> b. CamelBones @ Work - CB + DBI Schema = Work! >> c. Both! >> >> sherm-- >> >> > -- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net |
From: Matt S. <ma...@se...> - 2011-01-01 16:59:06
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Personally: Work. BTW: It worried me a little bit that apple's app store requires you to use the Mac APIs for doing things like user data storage. Does that not allow me to use DBI and SQLite for DVDSpanner? Sherm Pendley wrote: > What would you rather see: > > a. CamelBones GameKit - CB + SDL = Games! > b. CamelBones @ Work - CB + DBI Schema = Work! > c. Both! > > sherm-- > > |
From: Sherm P. <she...@gm...> - 2011-01-01 03:00:31
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What would you rather see: a. CamelBones GameKit - CB + SDL = Games! b. CamelBones @ Work - CB + DBI Schema = Work! c. Both! sherm-- -- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net |
From: Sherm P. <she...@gm...> - 2010-12-30 21:46:24
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There was a pretty big spike in traffic to the web site, downloads, and even a few banner-ad clicks on Dec. 28th. The last time I saw something similar, it turned out that someone had mentioned ShuX in a PerlMonks meditation, but I haven't been able to track this one down. Anyone know what I missed? sherm-- -- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net |