Thread: [Bluemusic-users] [blue-users] Importing Tempo
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From: Chuckk H. <bad...@gm...> - 2007-01-11 16:46:22
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I have a Pure Data patch that writes a Csound .sco file from my Pd sequencer. I tried importing the .sco into blue but the all-important t statement was lost. What I'm wondering is, if I take the resulting soundObjects and combine them into a polyObject, then apply a timewarp note processor with the exact contents of the Csound t statement, would the resulting tempos be exactly the same (assuming no s statements or other section dividers in the score)? Is blue's timewarp based on Csound's? -Chuckk -- "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." -Theodore Roosevelt |
From: Steven Y. <ste...@gm...> - 2007-01-11 17:11:14
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Hi Chuckk, The Time warp processor is based on code that Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu did in OMDE, but when I did it I also compared that to Csound's timewarping. Also this was reworked again some time ago after a discussion on one of the Csound mailing lists about time warp. The one thing to note for blue is that the TimeWarp processor will work correctly, but you should be careful to note the Time Behavior of the SoundObject you're working on. If you need an exact start duration of notes and exact end duration of notes, you'll need to fiddle with the duration of the SoundObject until you get it, or set time behavior to none. Also, you can use normal Csound t-statements by putting them in the globals score area. Hope that helps and let me know if there's anything else! steven On 1/11/07, Chuckk Hubbard <bad...@gm...> wrote: > I have a Pure Data patch that writes a Csound .sco file from my Pd > sequencer. I tried importing the .sco into blue but the all-important > t statement was lost. What I'm wondering is, if I take the resulting > soundObjects and combine them into a polyObject, then apply a timewarp > note processor with the exact contents of the Csound t statement, > would the resulting tempos be exactly the same (assuming no s > statements or other section dividers in the score)? Is blue's > timewarp based on Csound's? > > -Chuckk > > -- > "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to > work hard at work worth doing." > -Theodore Roosevelt > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Bluemusic-users mailing list > Blu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users > |
From: Chuckk H. <bad...@gm...> - 2007-01-11 21:29:08
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Ah, I didn't realize the global score would take t statements. I noticed it didn't import them, even when I selected "import score to global score." But it's not that hard to copy and paste one line. Thanks. -Chuckk On 1/11/07, Steven Yi <ste...@gm...> wrote: > Hi Chuckk, > > The Time warp processor is based on code that Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu > did in OMDE, but when I did it I also compared that to Csound's > timewarping. Also this was reworked again some time ago after a > discussion on one of the Csound mailing lists about time warp. > > The one thing to note for blue is that the TimeWarp processor will > work correctly, but you should be careful to note the Time Behavior of > the SoundObject you're working on. If you need an exact start > duration of notes and exact end duration of notes, you'll need to > fiddle with the duration of the SoundObject until you get it, or set > time behavior to none. > > Also, you can use normal Csound t-statements by putting them in the > globals score area. > > Hope that helps and let me know if there's anything else! > steven > > > On 1/11/07, Chuckk Hubbard <bad...@gm...> wrote: > > I have a Pure Data patch that writes a Csound .sco file from my Pd > > sequencer. I tried importing the .sco into blue but the all-important > > t statement was lost. What I'm wondering is, if I take the resulting > > soundObjects and combine them into a polyObject, then apply a timewarp > > note processor with the exact contents of the Csound t statement, > > would the resulting tempos be exactly the same (assuming no s > > statements or other section dividers in the score)? Is blue's > > timewarp based on Csound's? > > > > -Chuckk > > > > -- > > "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to > > work hard at work worth doing." > > -Theodore Roosevelt > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > _______________________________________________ > > Bluemusic-users mailing list > > Blu...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Bluemusic-users mailing list > Blu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users > -- "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." -Theodore Roosevelt |
From: Steven Y. <ste...@gm...> - 2007-01-11 22:45:41
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Hi Chuckk, Strange about not importing the t statement. One thing to note, if you have a t statement in the global score, blue will parse that when it goes to render and correctly show the current score time when playing back. For example, if the tempo goes from 180 to 30 in 4 beats, you'll see the line that shows the current playback slow down and follow along. steven On 1/11/07, Chuckk Hubbard <bad...@gm...> wrote: > Ah, I didn't realize the global score would take t statements. I > noticed it didn't import them, even when I selected "import score to > global score." But it's not that hard to copy and paste one line. > Thanks. > -Chuckk > > On 1/11/07, Steven Yi <ste...@gm...> wrote: > > Hi Chuckk, > > > > The Time warp processor is based on code that Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu > > did in OMDE, but when I did it I also compared that to Csound's > > timewarping. Also this was reworked again some time ago after a > > discussion on one of the Csound mailing lists about time warp. > > > > The one thing to note for blue is that the TimeWarp processor will > > work correctly, but you should be careful to note the Time Behavior of > > the SoundObject you're working on. If you need an exact start > > duration of notes and exact end duration of notes, you'll need to > > fiddle with the duration of the SoundObject until you get it, or set > > time behavior to none. > > > > Also, you can use normal Csound t-statements by putting them in the > > globals score area. > > > > Hope that helps and let me know if there's anything else! > > steven > > > > > > On 1/11/07, Chuckk Hubbard <bad...@gm...> wrote: > > > I have a Pure Data patch that writes a Csound .sco file from my Pd > > > sequencer. I tried importing the .sco into blue but the all-important > > > t statement was lost. What I'm wondering is, if I take the resulting > > > soundObjects and combine them into a polyObject, then apply a timewarp > > > note processor with the exact contents of the Csound t statement, > > > would the resulting tempos be exactly the same (assuming no s > > > statements or other section dividers in the score)? Is blue's > > > timewarp based on Csound's? > > > > > > -Chuckk > > > > > > -- > > > "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to > > > work hard at work worth doing." > > > -Theodore Roosevelt > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > > > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bluemusic-users mailing list > > > Blu...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > _______________________________________________ > > Bluemusic-users mailing list > > Blu...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users > > > > > -- > "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to > work hard at work worth doing." > -Theodore Roosevelt > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Bluemusic-users mailing list > Blu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users > |
From: Chuckk H. <bad...@gm...> - 2007-01-18 07:29:35
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That's wonderful, that does make a difference actually. But what I've just discovered is that changing the start time doesn't affect the t statement in the global score; it treats the new start time as 0. Would it be possible to either set the start time so it changes t statements, or set it to use an a statement instead of internally changing i statements? Does that make any sense? -Chuckk On 1/11/07, Steven Yi <ste...@gm...> wrote: > Hi Chuckk, > > Strange about not importing the t statement. One thing to note, if > you have a t statement in the global score, blue will parse that when > it goes to render and correctly show the current score time when > playing back. For example, if the tempo goes from 180 to 30 in 4 > beats, you'll see the line that shows the current playback slow down > and follow along. > > steven > > On 1/11/07, Chuckk Hubbard <bad...@gm...> wrote: > > Ah, I didn't realize the global score would take t statements. I > > noticed it didn't import them, even when I selected "import score to > > global score." But it's not that hard to copy and paste one line. > > Thanks. > > -Chuckk > > > > On 1/11/07, Steven Yi <ste...@gm...> wrote: > > > Hi Chuckk, > > > > > > The Time warp processor is based on code that Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu > > > did in OMDE, but when I did it I also compared that to Csound's > > > timewarping. Also this was reworked again some time ago after a > > > discussion on one of the Csound mailing lists about time warp. > > > > > > The one thing to note for blue is that the TimeWarp processor will > > > work correctly, but you should be careful to note the Time Behavior of > > > the SoundObject you're working on. If you need an exact start > > > duration of notes and exact end duration of notes, you'll need to > > > fiddle with the duration of the SoundObject until you get it, or set > > > time behavior to none. > > > > > > Also, you can use normal Csound t-statements by putting them in the > > > globals score area. > > > > > > Hope that helps and let me know if there's anything else! > > > steven > > > > > > > > > On 1/11/07, Chuckk Hubbard <bad...@gm...> wrote: > > > > I have a Pure Data patch that writes a Csound .sco file from my Pd > > > > sequencer. I tried importing the .sco into blue but the all-important > > > > t statement was lost. What I'm wondering is, if I take the resulting > > > > soundObjects and combine them into a polyObject, then apply a timewarp > > > > note processor with the exact contents of the Csound t statement, > > > > would the resulting tempos be exactly the same (assuming no s > > > > statements or other section dividers in the score)? Is blue's > > > > timewarp based on Csound's? > > > > > > > > -Chuckk > > > > > > > > -- > > > > "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to > > > > work hard at work worth doing." > > > > -Theodore Roosevelt > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > > > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > > > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > > > > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Bluemusic-users mailing list > > > > Blu...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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From: Steven Y. <ste...@gm...> - 2007-01-18 10:11:07
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Hi Chuckk, That makes sense and is a case I haven't though about. Hmm... okay, I had meant to put in the graphical tempo line editor sometime and I'd really need to do something like this to support this in the way that's not a hack. I'll start taking a look at what's involved today to get that in and will report back when I get any progress. steven On 1/18/07, Chuckk Hubbard <bad...@gm...> wrote: > That's wonderful, that does make a difference actually. > But what I've just discovered is that changing the start time doesn't > affect the t statement in the global score; it treats the new start > time as 0. Would it be possible to either set the start time so it > changes t statements, or set it to use an a statement instead of > internally changing i statements? Does that make any sense? > > -Chuckk > > > On 1/11/07, Steven Yi <ste...@gm...> wrote: > > Hi Chuckk, > > > > Strange about not importing the t statement. One thing to note, if > > you have a t statement in the global score, blue will parse that when > > it goes to render and correctly show the current score time when > > playing back. For example, if the tempo goes from 180 to 30 in 4 > > beats, you'll see the line that shows the current playback slow down > > and follow along. > > > > steven > > > > On 1/11/07, Chuckk Hubbard <bad...@gm...> wrote: > > > Ah, I didn't realize the global score would take t statements. I > > > noticed it didn't import them, even when I selected "import score to > > > global score." But it's not that hard to copy and paste one line. > > > Thanks. > > > -Chuckk > > > > > > On 1/11/07, Steven Yi <ste...@gm...> wrote: > > > > Hi Chuckk, > > > > > > > > The Time warp processor is based on code that Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu > > > > did in OMDE, but when I did it I also compared that to Csound's > > > > timewarping. Also this was reworked again some time ago after a > > > > discussion on one of the Csound mailing lists about time warp. > > > > > > > > The one thing to note for blue is that the TimeWarp processor will > > > > work correctly, but you should be careful to note the Time Behavior of > > > > the SoundObject you're working on. If you need an exact start > > > > duration of notes and exact end duration of notes, you'll need to > > > > fiddle with the duration of the SoundObject until you get it, or set > > > > time behavior to none. > > > > > > > > Also, you can use normal Csound t-statements by putting them in the > > > > globals score area. > > > > > > > > Hope that helps and let me know if there's anything else! > > > > steven > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/11/07, Chuckk Hubbard <bad...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > I have a Pure Data patch that writes a Csound .sco file from my Pd > > > > > sequencer. I tried importing the .sco into blue but the all-important > > > > > t statement was lost. What I'm wondering is, if I take the resulting > > > > > soundObjects and combine them into a polyObject, then apply a timewarp > > > > > note processor with the exact contents of the Csound t statement, > > > > > would the resulting tempos be exactly the same (assuming no s > > > > > statements or other section dividers in the score)? Is blue's > > > > > timewarp based on Csound's? > > > > > > > > > > -Chuckk > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to > > > > > work hard at work worth doing." > > > > > -Theodore Roosevelt > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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