Thread: [Bluemusic-users] Usability/documentation question for BlueSynthBuilder instruments
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From: Dave S. <da...@su...> - 2007-07-21 13:04:27
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Steven et al., If I add a BlueSynthBuilder instrument to my orchestra, how do I discover what the p-field format is for the instrument? Is there any way to figure this out other than reading through the code for the instrument? For example, I'd like to try the Reson 6 and Mode 6 instruments in the context of a PianoRoll -- how do I know what the note template should look like? I'm looking at the code for Reson 6 and I don't see p6 used anywhere; also, can I assume that p7 (which gets assigned to the iSpace variable) uses a range from 0 to 1 for right-to-left? Maybe I'm missing something, but it would be really great for usability if there was a way to associate a note template with an instrument design, to make it easier to see how the instrument is actually used. - Dave |
From: Dave S. <da...@su...> - 2007-07-21 13:50:09
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Similarly, I would love to play with the fof_* voice instruments, but I don't know how to use them. For example, why are there two different pitches (p4 and p5), and what are the legal values for the start and end vowels (p9 and p10). Sorry if I'm being a pain today, I'm just taking advantage of some time to look at these things, and these questions result from a little bit of frustration at not being able to just "jump in" and use these instruments effectively without a bunch of time-costly trial and error. You know I wouldn't be asking these questions if blue was not my main (and favorite) composition environment! :-) - Dave Dave Seidel wrote: > Steven et al., > > If I add a BlueSynthBuilder instrument to my orchestra, how do I > discover what the p-field format is for the instrument? Is there any > way to figure this out other than reading through the code for the > instrument? > > For example, I'd like to try the Reson 6 and Mode 6 instruments in the > context of a PianoRoll -- how do I know what the note template should > look like? I'm looking at the code for Reson 6 and I don't see p6 used > anywhere; also, can I assume that p7 (which gets assigned to the iSpace > variable) uses a range from 0 to 1 for right-to-left? > > Maybe I'm missing something, but it would be really great for usability > if there was a way to associate a note template with an instrument > design, to make it easier to see how the instrument is actually used. > > - Dave |
From: Steven Y. <ste...@gm...> - 2007-07-21 22:19:56
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Hi Dave, I found the email I posted a while back that I think if implemented would address your concerns: http://www.nabble.com/Instrument-Meta-Information-tf3583671.html#a10013769 As for Mode6, I looked and sure enough it doesn't use p6. I don't know why, but I never used Mode6 in a composition as I switched to Reson6, so likely Mode6 wasn't completed. Most of the instrument I generally have all pfields dealt with at the top of the instr code. For my instruments, I have format: p4 - start pch or freq p5 - end pch or freq p6 - amp in db p7 - envelope (0 = ADSR, 1 = Triangle, 2 = Ramp up) p8 - space (-1 to 1, left to right) then after that, my instruments can have additional fields (and still work with my orch composition library which I use). So for the FOF instruments, p9 and p10 are start and end vowel, and I think it's 0-4 for possible values, 0 being a, 1 being e, 2 being i, 3 being o, and 4 being u. So that should hopefully get you started with those instruments! steven On 7/21/07, Dave Seidel <da...@su...> wrote: > Similarly, I would love to play with the fof_* voice instruments, but I > don't know how to use them. For example, why are there two different > pitches (p4 and p5), and what are the legal values for the start and end > vowels (p9 and p10). > > Sorry if I'm being a pain today, I'm just taking advantage of some time > to look at these things, and these questions result from a little bit of > frustration at not being able to just "jump in" and use these > instruments effectively without a bunch of time-costly trial and error. > You know I wouldn't be asking these questions if blue was not my main > (and favorite) composition environment! :-) > > - Dave > > Dave Seidel wrote: > > Steven et al., > > > > If I add a BlueSynthBuilder instrument to my orchestra, how do I > > discover what the p-field format is for the instrument? Is there any > > way to figure this out other than reading through the code for the > > instrument? > > > > For example, I'd like to try the Reson 6 and Mode 6 instruments in the > > context of a PianoRoll -- how do I know what the note template should > > look like? I'm looking at the code for Reson 6 and I don't see p6 used > > anywhere; also, can I assume that p7 (which gets assigned to the iSpace > > variable) uses a range from 0 to 1 for right-to-left? > > > > Maybe I'm missing something, but it would be really great for usability > > if there was a way to associate a note template with an instrument > > design, to make it easier to see how the instrument is actually used. > > > > - Dave > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Bluemusic-users mailing list > Blu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users > |
From: Dave S. <da...@su...> - 2007-07-22 16:06:18
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Hi Steven, Thanks for the clarifications. I like the meta-information idea very much and will reply to that message directly. - Dave Steven Yi wrote: > Hi Dave, > > I found the email I posted a while back that I think if implemented > would address your concerns: > > http://www.nabble.com/Instrument-Meta-Information-tf3583671.html#a10013769 > > As for Mode6, I looked and sure enough it doesn't use p6. I don't > know why, but I never used Mode6 in a composition as I switched to > Reson6, so likely Mode6 wasn't completed. Most of the instrument I > generally have all pfields dealt with at the top of the instr code. > > For my instruments, I have format: > > p4 - start pch or freq > p5 - end pch or freq > p6 - amp in db > p7 - envelope (0 = ADSR, 1 = Triangle, 2 = Ramp up) > p8 - space (-1 to 1, left to right) > > then after that, my instruments can have additional fields (and still > work with my orch composition library which I use). So for the FOF > instruments, p9 and p10 are start and end vowel, and I think it's 0-4 > for possible values, 0 being a, 1 being e, 2 being i, 3 being o, and 4 > being u. So that should hopefully get you started with those > instruments! > > steven |