From: Kameleon <kam...@gm...> - 2013-02-25 19:59:45
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What is the best way to back up windows 2008r2 servers with backuppc? I have been looking at http://www.michaelstowe.com/backuppc/ but it loses me at the requirement for winexe which looks to need samba4. We are on a samba3 domain and cannot upgrade for a while. Is there a good step by step anywhere that can walk me through setting up a windows 2008r2 server to be backed up by backuppc? |
From: Flako <sub...@gm...> - 2013-02-25 20:15:10
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2013/2/25 Kameleon <kam...@gm...>: > What is the best way to back up windows 2008r2 servers with backuppc? > I have been looking at http://www.michaelstowe.com/backuppc/ but it > loses me at the requirement for winexe which looks to need samba4. We > are on a samba3 domain and cannot upgrade for a while. Is there a good > step by step anywhere that can walk me through setting up a windows > 2008r2 server to be backed up by backuppc? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hello, I'm using windows in backuppc rsync+cygwin+shadow, I've only tested on Windows XP. but it seems better to use rsync to samba option (much faster and with shadow copies open files) In your case, you solve the issue of compatibility of samba and windows. |
From: Les M. <les...@gm...> - 2013-02-25 20:56:44
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On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Kameleon <kam...@gm...> wrote: > What is the best way to back up windows 2008r2 servers with backuppc? > I have been looking at http://www.michaelstowe.com/backuppc/ but it > loses me at the requirement for winexe which looks to need samba4. We > are on a samba3 domain and cannot upgrade for a while. Is there a good > step by step anywhere that can walk me through setting up a windows > 2008r2 server to be backed up by backuppc? > It has been a while since I set up winexe but I think the source has everything you need to build it and you should be able run the resulting binary even if you only have samba3 installed. -- Les Mikesell les...@gm... |
From: Kameleon <kam...@gm...> - 2013-02-25 22:18:52
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I guess I am just not sure how to even begin to build it since there is no documentation I can find. On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Les Mikesell <les...@gm...> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Kameleon <kam...@gm...> wrote: >> What is the best way to back up windows 2008r2 servers with backuppc? >> I have been looking at http://www.michaelstowe.com/backuppc/ but it >> loses me at the requirement for winexe which looks to need samba4. We >> are on a samba3 domain and cannot upgrade for a while. Is there a good >> step by step anywhere that can walk me through setting up a windows >> 2008r2 server to be backed up by backuppc? >> > > It has been a while since I set up winexe but I think the source has > everything you need to build it and you should be able run the > resulting binary even if you only have samba3 installed. > > -- > Les Mikesell > les...@gm... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics > Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb > _______________________________________________ > BackupPC-users mailing list > Bac...@li... > List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net > Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ |
From: Les M. <les...@gm...> - 2013-02-25 23:19:53
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On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Kameleon <kam...@gm...> wrote: > I guess I am just not sure how to even begin to build it since there > is no documentation I can find. There are an assortment of packages here: https://build.opensuse.org/package/repositories?package=winexe&project=home%3Aahajda%3Awinexe Or starting with the code here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/winexe/files/ cd into the source4 directory and run configure, then make. I think you get some errors and not everything builds, but if you get a binary in the winexe directory it is all you need. -- Les Mikesell les...@gm... |
From: Kris L. <kl...@th...> - 2013-02-26 02:34:31
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^^ I can confirm that the above repository works with CentOS 6 (and Michael's implementation). Kris Lou kl...@th... On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Les Mikesell <les...@gm...> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Kameleon <kam...@gm...> wrote: > > I guess I am just not sure how to even begin to build it since there > > is no documentation I can find. > > There are an assortment of packages here: > > https://build.opensuse.org/package/repositories?package=winexe&project=home%3Aahajda%3Awinexe > > Or starting with the code here: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/winexe/files/ > cd into the source4 directory and run configure, then make. I think > you get some errors and not everything builds, but if you get a binary > in the winexe directory it is all you need. > > -- > Les Mikesell > les...@gm... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics > Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb > _______________________________________________ > BackupPC-users mailing list > Bac...@li... > List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net > Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ > |
From: Kameleon <kam...@gm...> - 2013-02-26 04:30:00
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Thanks for the confirmation. I had tried building from the source to no avail. I will try the report in the morning. On Feb 25, 2013 8:37 PM, "Kris Lou" <kl...@th...> wrote: > ^^ I can confirm that the above repository works with CentOS 6 (and > Michael's implementation). > > Kris Lou > kl...@th... > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Les Mikesell <les...@gm...>wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Kameleon <kam...@gm...> wrote: >> > I guess I am just not sure how to even begin to build it since there >> > is no documentation I can find. >> >> There are an assortment of packages here: >> >> https://build.opensuse.org/package/repositories?package=winexe&project=home%3Aahajda%3Awinexe >> >> Or starting with the code here: >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/winexe/files/ >> cd into the source4 directory and run configure, then make. I think >> you get some errors and not everything builds, but if you get a binary >> in the winexe directory it is all you need. >> >> -- >> Les Mikesell >> les...@gm... >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. >> Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics >> Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb >> _______________________________________________ >> BackupPC-users mailing list >> Bac...@li... >> List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users >> Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net >> Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics > Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb > _______________________________________________ > BackupPC-users mailing list > Bac...@li... > List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net > Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ > > |
From: upen <upe...@gm...> - 2013-02-26 17:04:11
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Hi, Can someone tell what the drawbacks of using cygwin/ssh/rsync on the windows BackupPc clients ? I just tried it yesterday on windows xp and it worked well. I believe this method of backup should also work on 2008r2 servers? |
From: upen <upe...@gm...> - 2013-02-26 21:42:13
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Michael Stowe <ms...@ch...> wrote: > >> Can someone tell what the drawbacks of using cygwin/ssh/rsync on the >> windows BackupPc clients ? I just tried it yesterday on windows xp and >> it worked well. I believe this method of backup should also work on >> 2008r2 servers? > > Drawbacks versus ... what? > > Windows in general has issues with file semantics, and its system of > overcoming those is essentially to use VSS, the Volume Snapshot Service. > For BackupPC, there have been two solutions developed, one that requires > ssh, and one that instead uses winexe, which leverages samba. The ssh > solution encrypts in transit, but (naturally) requires the installation of > ssh and the appropriate version of vshadow. The winexe version has an > installer which takes care of the client details, but requires > winexe/samba installed on the BackupPC server. > > There are some minor functional differences in the implementations; the > ssh version backs up ACL's (in one of two ways) and the winexe version > handles backing up machines that are powered down. However, the features > aren't incompatible, and since both are scripted, can be added to either > one. Sorry about the confusing question. I was actually asking in general versus all other methods available to backup windows using BackupPC. Thanks for the information. It's certainly useful. I used method mentioned at http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html for my windows xp client. It didn't mention anything about volume snapshot service or vshadow. I am not sure if I am using vshadow but I do find a service in my windows xp named "Volume Shadow Copy " that is set to manual. So I guess vshadow is not being used on when backup is taken. Do I have to start vshadow and set to to automatic for future? |
From: upen <upe...@gm...> - 2013-02-26 22:52:59
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Michael Stowe <ms...@ch...> wrote: > > >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Michael Stowe >> <ms...@ch...> wrote: >>> >>>> Can someone tell what the drawbacks of using cygwin/ssh/rsync on the >>>> windows BackupPc clients ? I just tried it yesterday on windows xp and >>>> it worked well. I believe this method of backup should also work on >>>> 2008r2 servers? >>> >>> Drawbacks versus ... what? >>> >>> Windows in general has issues with file semantics, and its system of >>> overcoming those is essentially to use VSS, the Volume Snapshot Service. >>> For BackupPC, there have been two solutions developed, one that requires >>> ssh, and one that instead uses winexe, which leverages samba. The ssh >>> solution encrypts in transit, but (naturally) requires the installation >>> of >>> ssh and the appropriate version of vshadow. The winexe version has an >>> installer which takes care of the client details, but requires >>> winexe/samba installed on the BackupPC server. >>> >>> There are some minor functional differences in the implementations; the >>> ssh version backs up ACL's (in one of two ways) and the winexe version >>> handles backing up machines that are powered down. However, the >>> features >>> aren't incompatible, and since both are scripted, can be added to either >>> one. >> >> Sorry about the confusing question. I was actually asking in general >> versus all other methods available to backup windows using BackupPC. >> >> Thanks for the information. It's certainly useful. I used method >> mentioned at http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html >> for my windows xp client. It didn't mention anything about volume >> snapshot service or vshadow. I am not sure if I am using vshadow but I >> do find a service in my windows xp named "Volume Shadow Copy " that is >> set to manual. So I guess vshadow is not being used on when backup is >> taken. Do I have to start vshadow and set to to automatic for future? > > What's there is neither of the open-file solutions I describe, so you'll > either need to switch, or simply be unable to back up open files (this may > not be a problem, depending on your backup strategy.) > > vshadow, the windows service, doesn't actually do anything unless it's > specifically invoked, so setting it to automatic won't do anything, nor > will starting the service by itself. The tricky thing about transient > shadow volume copies is that they need to be invoked *before* rsync, thus > the complexity. The windows-edition-specific program "vshadow" allows > management from the command line. Great. Thanks guys for all the information. |
From: Kris L. <kl...@th...> - 2013-02-26 23:09:47
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You may want to refer to http://edgylogic.com/blog/vshadow-exe-versions/ for appropriate vshadow versions for Windows 7/2008. (or see the comments on Michael's original implementation page). Also, in-place restores will require a bit of work - but most of the time you'll probably be restoring specific files, so manually moving them into place isn't a huge deal. WOL is a nice feature, but make sure that your switches support it. (Mine don't). Kris Lou kl...@th... On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:52 PM, upen <upe...@gm...> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Michael Stowe > <ms...@ch...> wrote: > > > > > >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Michael Stowe > >> <ms...@ch...> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Can someone tell what the drawbacks of using cygwin/ssh/rsync on the > >>>> windows BackupPc clients ? I just tried it yesterday on windows xp and > >>>> it worked well. I believe this method of backup should also work on > >>>> 2008r2 servers? > >>> > >>> Drawbacks versus ... what? > >>> > >>> Windows in general has issues with file semantics, and its system of > >>> overcoming those is essentially to use VSS, the Volume Snapshot > Service. > >>> For BackupPC, there have been two solutions developed, one that > requires > >>> ssh, and one that instead uses winexe, which leverages samba. The ssh > >>> solution encrypts in transit, but (naturally) requires the installation > >>> of > >>> ssh and the appropriate version of vshadow. The winexe version has an > >>> installer which takes care of the client details, but requires > >>> winexe/samba installed on the BackupPC server. > >>> > >>> There are some minor functional differences in the implementations; the > >>> ssh version backs up ACL's (in one of two ways) and the winexe version > >>> handles backing up machines that are powered down. However, the > >>> features > >>> aren't incompatible, and since both are scripted, can be added to > either > >>> one. > >> > >> Sorry about the confusing question. I was actually asking in general > >> versus all other methods available to backup windows using BackupPC. > >> > >> Thanks for the information. It's certainly useful. I used method > >> mentioned at http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html > >> for my windows xp client. It didn't mention anything about volume > >> snapshot service or vshadow. I am not sure if I am using vshadow but I > >> do find a service in my windows xp named "Volume Shadow Copy " that is > >> set to manual. So I guess vshadow is not being used on when backup is > >> taken. Do I have to start vshadow and set to to automatic for future? > > > > What's there is neither of the open-file solutions I describe, so you'll > > either need to switch, or simply be unable to back up open files (this > may > > not be a problem, depending on your backup strategy.) > > > > vshadow, the windows service, doesn't actually do anything unless it's > > specifically invoked, so setting it to automatic won't do anything, nor > > will starting the service by itself. The tricky thing about transient > > shadow volume copies is that they need to be invoked *before* rsync, thus > > the complexity. The windows-edition-specific program "vshadow" allows > > management from the command line. > > > Great. Thanks guys for all the information. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics > Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb > _______________________________________________ > BackupPC-users mailing list > Bac...@li... > List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net > Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ > |