Thread: Re: [Alsa-user] again about EMU10K1 mixer
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From: Peter Z. <pz...@po...> - 2004-04-29 07:42:08
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Hi, >What is wrong with the mixer of SB Live? It needs face lifting. I would like to do this, but I don't have SB=20 Live (only Audigy). Is there any voluteer to test patches ??? Mostly live mixer under ALSA uses AC97 codec to volume control and=20 OSS uses digital mixer implemented in DSP. >Why line out control called "Wave Sur"? This is used for mirroring stereo sound to rear speakers. >Why Master, PCM and Wave controls output only to my headphones? These controls are in AC97 and AC97 is only 2 channel. >What is the Wave control? Wave is used to set volume on stereo playback - it is implemented in=20 DSP (Wave, Wave surround, Wave LFE, Wave center). For 5.1 sound there are other controls (Wave, Surround, LFE, Center) Peter Zubaj =0A____________________________________=0Ahttp://www.pobox.sk/ - spolahliva= a bezpecna prevadzka=0A=0A=0A |
From: Peter Z. <pz...@po...> - 2004-04-30 11:21:15
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>do you know how's the front panel support now - is it possible to=20 >record via line in and RCA inputs on liveDrive? I think yes, just set these volumes: Line LiveDrive Capture Volume - 100 % Line LiveDrive Capture Switch - unmute Line2 LiveDrive Capture Volume - 100 % Line2 LiveDrive Capture Switch - unmute Peter Zubaj=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D REKLAMA =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=0AJava Desktop System predstavuje prvu pouzitelnu alternativu = voci Windows za=0Aposlednych 15 rokov, pretoze prinasa z=E1kaznikom bezpecn= e a doveryhodne=0Adesktopove riesenie za zlomok ceny Windows.=0AViac inform= acii najdete na : http://www.somi.sk/sun/java_desktop.php=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =0A |
From: Erik S. <st...@bi...> - 2004-05-01 21:22:33
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Peter Zubaj wrote: >>do you know how's the front panel support now - is it possible to >>record via line in and RCA inputs on liveDrive? > > > I think yes, just set these volumes: > > Line LiveDrive Capture Volume - 100 % > Line LiveDrive Capture Switch - unmute > > Line2 LiveDrive Capture Volume - 100 % > Line2 LiveDrive Capture Switch - unmute funguje! it actually works. I spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to use the front panel before (a year or two ago) and couldn't make it work at all... now it's almost too simple:-) thanks, erik |
From: Juhana S. <ko...@ni...> - 2004-05-05 17:52:55
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>From: Erik Steffl <st...@bi...> >> >>>What is wrong with the mixer of SB Live? >> >> It needs face lifting. I would like to do this, but I don't have SB >> Live (only Audigy). Is there any voluteer to test patches ??? Could anyone list all what needs face lifting? I have earlier written about the following name changes, but don't know if they have been changed already. I have driver 1.0.0pre3. Bad names Proposed good names --------------------------------------------------- Line LiveDrive Line2/Mic2 LiveDrive Line LiveDrive Capture Line2/Mic2 LiveDrive Capture Line2 LiveDrive 1 Aux2 LiveDrive Line2 LiveDrive Aux2 LiveDrive Capture >>>Why line out control called "Wave Sur"? The name is "Wave Surround" as seen at the top part of the alsamixer. The cutoff names are seen in the botton because there is no room for the full-length names. Should we have two sets of names: full name and short name? Simply cutting off the full name does not always work: Headphone LFE 1 --> Headphon Headphone 1 --> Headphon Headphone Center 1 --> Headphon > do you know how's the front panel support now - is it possible to >record via line in and RCA inputs on liveDrive? Both yes. Check the mixer controls from the above table. The problem was a typo in the emu10k1 driver code which mixed up the controls in the above table. It is my understanding that LiveDrive has better quality inputs than the rear card, but a good professional measure-test would be a great to see. Has anyone tested audio cards with professional test equipments? Also, I had a problem in getting MIDI connectors of LiveDrive working. That was solved with "enable_ir=1" in the modules config. That is confusing as enable_ir sounds like "enable infra red". But "enable_ir" enables both MIDI and IR. I posted IR remote control codes to linux-audio-dev some months ago. All kind of players should support the remote control. Actually, because digital TV in future offers Internet browsing with a TV remote control, then why would not Linux have similar simple control for its software. Different applications could be choosen and used with the remote only. Using computer could not be simpler than that. No patent pending. Note that in many families, there is only one nerd who actually knows the computer, and then there are plenty of people who can only operate a TV remote. It would make sense to make Linux (or MS Windows or Mac!) usable with a remote. Regards, Juhana |
From: Dennis G. <blu...@we...> - 2004-05-05 20:33:57
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On Wednesday 05 May 2004 19:52, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: > >From: Erik Steffl <st...@bi...> > > > >>>What is wrong with the mixer of SB Live? > >> > >> It needs face lifting. I would like to do this, but I don't have SB > >> Live (only Audigy). Is there any voluteer to test patches ??? > > Could anyone list all what needs face lifting? > > I have earlier written about the following name changes, > but don't know if they have been changed already. I have > driver 1.0.0pre3. > > Bad names Proposed good names > --------------------------------------------------- > Line LiveDrive Line2/Mic2 LiveDrive > Line LiveDrive Capture Line2/Mic2 LiveDrive Capture > Line2 LiveDrive 1 Aux2 LiveDrive > Line2 LiveDrive Aux2 LiveDrive Capture > > >>>Why line out control called "Wave Sur"? > > The name is "Wave Surround" as seen at the top part of the > alsamixer. The cutoff names are seen in the botton because > there is no room for the full-length names. > > Should we have two sets of names: full name and short name? > Simply cutting off the full name does not always work: > Headphone LFE 1 --> Headphon > Headphone 1 --> Headphon > Headphone Center 1 --> Headphon > > > do you know how's the front panel support now - is it possible to > >record via line in and RCA inputs on liveDrive? > > Both yes. > Check the mixer controls from the above table. > The problem was a typo in the emu10k1 driver code > which mixed up the controls in the above table. > > It is my understanding that LiveDrive has better quality > inputs than the rear card, but a good professional measure-test > would be a great to see. Has anyone tested audio cards with > professional test equipments? > > Also, I had a problem in getting MIDI connectors of LiveDrive > working. That was solved with "enable_ir=1" in the modules config. > That is confusing as enable_ir sounds like "enable infra red". > But "enable_ir" enables both MIDI and IR. > > I posted IR remote control codes to linux-audio-dev some months ago. > All kind of players should support the remote control. > > Actually, because digital TV in future offers Internet browsing with > a TV remote control, then why would not Linux have similar simple > control for its software. Different applications could be choosen > and used with the remote only. Using computer could not be simpler > than that. No patent pending. Note that in many families, there is > only one nerd who actually knows the computer, and then there are > plenty of people who can only operate a TV remote. It would make > sense to make Linux (or MS Windows or Mac!) usable with a remote. > > Regards, > Juhana > I think the Master Volume for Analog 5.1 systems should be fixed ... emu10k1 pcm doesnt work correctly for me, e.g. when switching song in xmms, or if any new sound is played from somewhere, it switches back to 100% ..... also it isn't available at all if no sound is playing .... i got a soundblaster live 5.1 digital |
From: Elbarto <the...@de...> - 2004-05-06 12:07:43
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On Wed, 5 May 2004 20:52:52 +0300 Juhana Sadeharju <ko...@ni...> wrote: > Could anyone list all what needs face lifting? PCM, CD, Aux & co should modify volume on all channels, not only on front left and right. There should be a way to make CD play on all channels (i think there's the same problem on Aux, line in & co, but I don't have experience..) Luca |
From: Juhana S. <ko...@ni...> - 2004-05-10 16:02:09
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>From: Dennis Gnad <blu...@we...> > >I think the Master Volume for Analog 5.1 systems should be fixed ... emu10k1 >pcm doesnt work correctly for me, e.g. when switching song in xmms, or if any >new sound is played from somewhere, it switches back to 100% ..... also it >isn't available at all if no sound is playing .... Mixer settings are adjusted by bad software. For example, Xine moves PCM volume to 50%, and I'm sure there are many other similar bad software. The driver defaults should not be biased by behaviour of bad software! IMHO, no software should change the settings unexpectedly, and I dislike software which try to be smarter than me. ;-) Please use "alsamixer" for mixer control during the testing and getting all out of the mixer. Is PCM available for you with the alsamixer when no sound is playing? Also, if possible, use only "aplay" and "mpg123" for playing during the testing. Regards, Juhana |
From: Dennis G. <blu...@we...> - 2004-05-10 16:51:15
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> Mixer settings are adjusted by bad software. For example, Xine moves > PCM volume to 50%, and I'm sure there are many other similar bad software. > The driver defaults should not be biased by behaviour of bad software! > > IMHO, no software should change the settings unexpectedly, and > I dislike software which try to be smarter than me. ;-) > > Please use "alsamixer" for mixer control during the testing > and getting all out of the mixer. Is PCM available for you with > the alsamixer when no sound is playing? > > Also, if possible, use only "aplay" and "mpg123" for playing during > the testing. > > Regards, > Juhana EMU10k1 PCM which is the one which controls all 5.1 channels is just available while sound is playing (and is available twice, one for R and one for L ) ...... the default PCM, which is always available, just controls front L and front R channel ..... (also the default master and wave does control that) and when sound stops from ANYWHERE (xmms new song, an effect in a game is played, etc) EMU10k1 PCM resets to 100% can't do anything about that ..... i already use alsamixer |
From: Erik S. <st...@bi...> - 2004-04-29 19:50:27
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Peter Zubaj wrote: > Hi, > > >>What is wrong with the mixer of SB Live? > > It needs face lifting. I would like to do this, but I don't have SB > Live (only Audigy). Is there any voluteer to test patches ??? of course! > Mostly live mixer under ALSA uses AC97 codec to volume control and > OSS uses digital mixer implemented in DSP. > > >>Why line out control called "Wave Sur"? > > This is used for mirroring stereo sound to rear speakers. > > >>Why Master, PCM and Wave controls output only to my headphones? > > These controls are in AC97 and AC97 is only 2 channel. > > >>What is the Wave control? > > Wave is used to set volume on stereo playback - it is implemented in > DSP (Wave, Wave surround, Wave LFE, Wave center). > For 5.1 sound there are other controls (Wave, Surround, LFE, Center) I just played with it a bit (I moved sb live! to the computer I usually use), found out that the mixer changed since a year or two ago and also found yout that now there is no way to control overall volume (when 5.1 speakers are plugged in). master controls something (from explanation above I guess it's the two front speakers) and some wave controls have some kind of control over the speakers as well (definitely over the rear ones). volume knob on the speakers that I haven't used for ages is suddenly so important:-) do you know how's the front panel support now - is it possible to record via line in and RCA inputs on liveDrive? erik |
From: rob <mai...@pa...> - 2004-05-02 09:44:54
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> do you know how's the front panel support now - is it possible to > record via line in and RCA inputs on liveDrive? Yes they do (on my live 5.1 platinum anyway). Though it is a bit of a game to guess what controls you need to play with to get it to work. The remote control also works with cvs lirc. > erik > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g > Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. > Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Alsa-user mailing list > Als...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user -- rob <mai...@pa...> |
From: Jeremy N. <at...@al...> - 2004-04-30 03:37:29
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On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 09:42 +0200, Peter Zubaj wrote: > Hi, >=20 > >What is wrong with the mixer of SB Live? > It needs face lifting. I would like to do this, but I don't have SB=20 > Live (only Audigy). Is there any voluteer to test patches ??? I'll volunteer. 2.6.x kernel with an SB Live 5.1 Digital, exhibiting exactly the problems detailed in the original post. |