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RE: [Airjack-users] Airjack error - Operation not permitted

[Joshua W. <Jos...@jw...>]

Jerry,

> I've been working on getting AirJack working today.  I believe I have
> the drivers built but when I try to run most of the executables, I get
> either a message that I don't have the parameters right=20
> (which I can get by) or an "operation not permitted".

Are you running the tools as root?  To open and bind sockets, you need =
root privileges.  I usually run airjack and related tools with sudo - =
"sudo essid_jack ...".
=20
> I also have not been able to build airjack.  With version=20
> 0.6.6b-alpha,
> I get a whole pile of undefined references.  With 6.2, I get errors
> about "_not_SMP safe...".  In both cases, it ends with "make: ***
> [airjack.o] Error 1".  Also, in both cases everything in the tools
> directory seems to be built correctly and runs till I get the=20
> parameters right, then I get the "operation not permitted".

Sounds like your Linux kernel has SMP support enabled.  You can either =
recompile your kernel without SMP support (assuming your machine has a =
single processor), or just edit the Makefile to remove any instances of =
"-Werror".

Try running the tools as root.  If you still have a problem, send the =
exact output from the message with the output of "id" and the last few =
lines of "dmesg".

-Joshua Wright
Senior Network and Security Architect
Johnson & Wales University
Jos...@jw...=20
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[Airjack-users] Airjack error - Operation not permitted

[Jerry S. <js...@de...>]

I've been working on getting AirJack working today.  I believe I have
the drivers built but when I try to run most of the executables, I get
either a message that I don't have the parameters right (which I can get
by) or an "operation not permitted".

I also have not been able to build airjack.  With version 0.6.6b-alpha,
I get a whole pile of undefined references.  With 6.2, I get errors
about "_not_SMP safe...".  In both cases, it ends with "make: ***
[airjack.o] Error 1".  Also, in both cases everything in the tools
directory seems to be built correctly and runs till I get the parameters
right, then I get the "operation not permitted".

[Airjack-users] RE: what about data packets

[Jimmy <gen...@ya...>]

Nevermind..... :) User error.....

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Re: [Airjack-users] Link.

[Abaddon <ab...@80...>]

<sarcasm>
my standard platform is that all things are airjack-2 compatible, even
if they are imaginary, I'll just um, have some delays getting you the
wifispray support...yeah, delays, thats it... ;)
</sarcasm>

--Abaddon


On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 07:56, Andrew A. Vladimirov wrote:
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> I wonder if it is AirJack-compatible ...
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[Airjack-users] Link.

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Sorry for the offtopic, couldn't resist sending this link:

http://j-walk.com/other/wifispray/index.htm

I wonder if it is AirJack-compatible ...

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RE: [Airjack-users] Defcon slides

[Abaddon <ab...@80...>]

;), yeah, I've found a way to beat everyone at that ;)...seriously
though I'd have it coded ahead of time, it'd be like a cooking show, if
I start to run short on time I can skip a bit...but it would be nice to
show how easy it is to write things for it and at the same time release
a new chipset driver...

--Abaddon

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 14:09, Rager, Anton (Anton) wrote:
> lol -- that's last minute coding ;)
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abaddon [mailto:ab...@80...]
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:30 AM
> To: Rakesh Arora
> Cc: airjack-users
> Subject: Re: [Airjack-users] Defcon slides
>=20
>=20
> not yet, I didn't really have many slides to speak of, the audience was
> mostly interested in 802.11 in general an end user stuff, airjack's
> audience is more developer oriented...if you can make it out to toorcon
> next month I was thinking about giving a talk on developing with aj-2,
> both from the kernel perspective (making new cards and bus's work with
> aj-2) and userspace development...if there is interest I was thinking of
> developing an aj-2 chipset driver on the spot explaining as I went, and
> doing the same for a userspace app...
>=20
> --Abaddon
>=20
> On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 23:55, Rakesh Arora wrote:
> > Hi,
> >           I know you are still working on the GPL licenses, makefiles
> > etc for Airjack2 before you can release it, but I was wondering if you
> > make your presentation slides available at your site. I am eager to
> > know about the new functionalities that you have added!
> > =20
> > Thanks.
> >=20
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RE: [Airjack-users] Defcon slides

[Rager, A. (Anton) <ar...@av...>]

lol -- that's last minute coding ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Abaddon [mailto:ab...@80...]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:30 AM
To: Rakesh Arora
Cc: airjack-users
Subject: Re: [Airjack-users] Defcon slides


not yet, I didn't really have many slides to speak of, the audience was
mostly interested in 802.11 in general an end user stuff, airjack's
audience is more developer oriented...if you can make it out to toorcon
next month I was thinking about giving a talk on developing with aj-2,
both from the kernel perspective (making new cards and bus's work with
aj-2) and userspace development...if there is interest I was thinking of
developing an aj-2 chipset driver on the spot explaining as I went, and
doing the same for a userspace app...

--Abaddon

On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 23:55, Rakesh Arora wrote:
> Hi,
>           I know you are still working on the GPL licenses, makefiles
> etc for Airjack2 before you can release it, but I was wondering if you
> make your presentation slides available at your site. I am eager to
> know about the new functionalities that you have added!
> =20
> Thanks.
>=20
>=20
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Re: [Airjack-users] Defcon slides

[Abaddon <ab...@80...>]

not yet, I didn't really have many slides to speak of, the audience was
mostly interested in 802.11 in general an end user stuff, airjack's
audience is more developer oriented...if you can make it out to toorcon
next month I was thinking about giving a talk on developing with aj-2,
both from the kernel perspective (making new cards and bus's work with
aj-2) and userspace development...if there is interest I was thinking of
developing an aj-2 chipset driver on the spot explaining as I went, and
doing the same for a userspace app...

--Abaddon

On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 23:55, Rakesh Arora wrote:
> Hi,
>           I know you are still working on the GPL licenses, makefiles
> etc for Airjack2 before you can release it, but I was wondering if you
> make your presentation slides available at your site. I am eager to
> know about the new functionalities that you have added!
> =20
> Thanks.
>=20
>=20
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RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Joshua W. <Jos...@jw...>]

Check that - forget about TKIP.

-Josh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: air...@li...
> [mailto:air...@li...]On Behalf Of Joshua
> Wright
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:26 AM
> To: Abaddon
> Cc: Jerry Shenk; airjack-users
> Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
>=20
>=20
> PEAP+TKIP is better than PEAP+WEP certainly.  It's all a big=20
> crapshoot anyway, since TKIP is bound to be broken sooner or later.
>=20
> Note to subscribers from the IEEE 802.11 committees: what the=20
> heck is going on with the 802.11i?
>=20
> -Josh
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abaddon [mailto:ab...@80...]
> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:40 AM
> > To: Joshua Wright
> > Cc: Jerry Shenk; airjack-users
> > Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> >=20
> >=20
> > even PEAP isn't a cure-all, the broadcast key still makes them
> > vulnerable to wepweggie style attacks, and much more,=20
> Cisco's security
> > (as well as everyone else's in the 802.11 field for that=20
> > matter) leaves
> > much to be desired...
> >=20
> > --Abaddon
> >=20
> > On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 09:13, Joshua Wright wrote:
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >=20
> > > I made the LEAP presentation, and got a Cisco PSIRT=20
> advisory out of
> > > the deal:
> > >=20
> > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sn-20030802-leap.shtml
> > >=20
> > > It's pretty lame on Cisco's behalf.  I'm trying to get=20
> them to tell
> > > customers that PEAP is a better implementation than LEAP.  Despite
> > > the fact that everyone I talk to at Cisco SWEARS up and down that
> > > they "don't push LEAP on customers, customers choose LEAP=20
> over PEAP"
> > > (which is a big crock), Cisco won't acknowledge that USERS ARE
> > > STUPID, and will choose weak passwords despite their=20
> administrators
> > > best intentions.
> > >=20
> > > <sigh>
> > >=20
> > > - -Joshua Wright
> > > Senior Network and Security Architect
> > > Johnson & Wales University
> > > Jos...@jw...=20
> > > http://home.jwu.edu/jwright/
> > >=20
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> > >=20
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: air...@li...
> > > > [mailto:air...@li...]On Behalf Of
> > > > Jerry Shenk
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:50 PM
> > > > Cc: 'airjack-users'
> > > > Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > No no, wasn't meaning to be pestering.
> > > >=20
> > > > I ran into Joshua at SANS in DC (Washington, not DefCon;). =20
> > > > Did he make
> > > > a LEAP presentation?  Reading some of the reviews, it was=20
> > > > pretty bad but
> > > > sometimes people complain way too much.
> > > >=20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Abaddon [mailto:ab...@80...]=20
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:50 AM
> > > > To: Jerry Shenk
> > > > Cc: 'airjack-users'
> > > > Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > yeah, I meant to put the gpl license stuff in each file last=20
> > > > night, and
> > > > fix my makefiles, but that didn't end up happening...to tell you
> > > > the truth here is what happens every day...I goto work, I write=20
> > > > lots of code
> > > > (wireless code at that), by the end of the day I'm drained=20
> > > > and the last
> > > > thing I want to do is open up my laptop...this has been the slow
> > > > down (that and something I've recently discovered that closely
> > > > resembles a social life)...
> > > >=20
> > > > I do realize that lots of people are waiting, I do apologize for
> > > > the delays...that is, unfortunately the nature of free software,
> > > > all my other work (the kind that pays my bills) takes=20
> precedence,
> > > > because I gotta pay the bills...
> > > >=20
> > > > I will do my best to get it out in some form or another tonight,
> > > > late tonight, and in anonymous cvs not yet on the main site...
> > > >=20
> > > > --Abaddon
> > > >=20
> > > > p.s. keep pestering me, I do respond well to nagging...
> > > >=20
> > > > On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 12:40, Jerry Shenk wrote:
> > > > > The worlds waits in anticipation.........
> > > > >=20
> > > > > ;)
> > > > >=20
> > > > > How did DefCon go?  I was watching the notes page hoping for
> > > > > info.=20
> > > > That
> > > > > seems like a great idea if people would use it.
> > > > >=20
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: air...@li...
> > > > > [mailto:air...@li...] On=20
> Behalf Of
> > > > Abaddon
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:33 AM
> > > > > To: Fran6
> > > > > Cc: airjack-users
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> > > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > not airjack-1, which is what you're using...give me a few=20
> > > > hours to get
> > > > > the licensing and makefiles in order and ill put out the
> > > > > airjack-2 release as promissed...
> > > > >=20
> > > > > --Ababddon
> > > > >=20
> > > > > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:56, Fran6 wrote:
> > > > > > hi,
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > I'm new at using airjack, when I insmod airjack, I=20
> > can sniff in
> > > > > monitor=20
> > > > > > mode without any problem. But can airjack be configured=20
> > > > in "normal"=20
> > > > > > modes like ad-hoc or associated with an AP ?
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > I tryed to use tools provided in v0.6.4 :
> > > > > > # ./setmac aj0 00:09:5B:63:9D:D7
> > > > > > ioctl: SIOCSIFHWADDR: operation not supported
> > > > > > ??
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RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Jerry S. <js...@de...>]

Is your presentation available anywhere?  

...and right on the tails of that, do you have your code available for
demonstration?  I have a rather security conscious client who did LEAP
thinking that it was pretty tight....ah, so did I;).  I'd like to work
with them to test this.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Wright [mailto:Jos...@jw...] 
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 10:13 AM
To: Jerry Shenk
Cc: airjack-users
Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools


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Hash: SHA1

I made the LEAP presentation, and got a Cisco PSIRT advisory out of
the deal:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sn-20030802-leap.shtml

It's pretty lame on Cisco's behalf.  I'm trying to get them to tell
customers that PEAP is a better implementation than LEAP.  Despite
the fact that everyone I talk to at Cisco SWEARS up and down that
they "don't push LEAP on customers, customers choose LEAP over PEAP"
(which is a big crock), Cisco won't acknowledge that USERS ARE
STUPID, and will choose weak passwords despite their administrators
best intentions.

<sigh>

- -Joshua Wright
Senior Network and Security Architect
Johnson & Wales University
Jos...@jw... 
http://home.jwu.edu/jwright/

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: air...@li...
> [mailto:air...@li...]On Behalf Of
> Jerry Shenk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:50 PM
> Cc: 'airjack-users'
> Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> 
> 
> No no, wasn't meaning to be pestering.
> 
> I ran into Joshua at SANS in DC (Washington, not DefCon;).  
> Did he make
> a LEAP presentation?  Reading some of the reviews, it was 
> pretty bad but
> sometimes people complain way too much.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abaddon [mailto:ab...@80...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:50 AM
> To: Jerry Shenk
> Cc: 'airjack-users'
> Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> 
> 
> yeah, I meant to put the gpl license stuff in each file last 
> night, and
> fix my makefiles, but that didn't end up happening...to tell you
> the truth here is what happens every day...I goto work, I write 
> lots of code
> (wireless code at that), by the end of the day I'm drained 
> and the last
> thing I want to do is open up my laptop...this has been the slow
> down (that and something I've recently discovered that closely
> resembles a social life)...
> 
> I do realize that lots of people are waiting, I do apologize for
> the delays...that is, unfortunately the nature of free software,
> all my other work (the kind that pays my bills) takes precedence,
> because I gotta pay the bills...
> 
> I will do my best to get it out in some form or another tonight,
> late tonight, and in anonymous cvs not yet on the main site...
> 
> --Abaddon
> 
> p.s. keep pestering me, I do respond well to nagging...
> 
> On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 12:40, Jerry Shenk wrote:
> > The worlds waits in anticipation.........
> > 
> > ;)
> > 
> > How did DefCon go?  I was watching the notes page hoping for
> > info. 
> That
> > seems like a great idea if people would use it.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: air...@li...
> > [mailto:air...@li...] On Behalf Of
> Abaddon
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:33 AM
> > To: Fran6
> > Cc: airjack-users
> > Subject: Re: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> > 
> > 
> > not airjack-1, which is what you're using...give me a few 
> hours to get
> > the licensing and makefiles in order and ill put out the
> > airjack-2 release as promissed...
> > 
> > --Ababddon
> > 
> > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:56, Fran6 wrote:
> > > hi,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm new at using airjack, when I insmod airjack, I can sniff in
> > monitor 
> > > mode without any problem. But can airjack be configured 
> in "normal" 
> > > modes like ad-hoc or associated with an AP ?
> > > 
> > > I tryed to use tools provided in v0.6.4 :
> > > # ./setmac aj0 00:09:5B:63:9D:D7
> > > ioctl: SIOCSIFHWADDR: operation not supported
> > > ??
> > > 
> > > 
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RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Joshua W. <Jos...@jw...>]

PEAP+TKIP is better than PEAP+WEP certainly.  It's all a big crapshoot =
anyway, since TKIP is bound to be broken sooner or later.

Note to subscribers from the IEEE 802.11 committees: what the heck is =
going on with the 802.11i?

-Josh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abaddon [mailto:ab...@80...]
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:40 AM
> To: Joshua Wright
> Cc: Jerry Shenk; airjack-users
> Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
>=20
>=20
> even PEAP isn't a cure-all, the broadcast key still makes them
> vulnerable to wepweggie style attacks, and much more, Cisco's security
> (as well as everyone else's in the 802.11 field for that=20
> matter) leaves
> much to be desired...
>=20
> --Abaddon
>=20
> On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 09:13, Joshua Wright wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >=20
> > I made the LEAP presentation, and got a Cisco PSIRT advisory out of
> > the deal:
> >=20
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sn-20030802-leap.shtml
> >=20
> > It's pretty lame on Cisco's behalf.  I'm trying to get them to tell
> > customers that PEAP is a better implementation than LEAP.  Despite
> > the fact that everyone I talk to at Cisco SWEARS up and down that
> > they "don't push LEAP on customers, customers choose LEAP over PEAP"
> > (which is a big crock), Cisco won't acknowledge that USERS ARE
> > STUPID, and will choose weak passwords despite their administrators
> > best intentions.
> >=20
> > <sigh>
> >=20
> > - -Joshua Wright
> > Senior Network and Security Architect
> > Johnson & Wales University
> > Jos...@jw...=20
> > http://home.jwu.edu/jwright/
> >=20
> > pgpkey: http://home.jwu.edu/jwright/pgpkey.htm
> > fingerprint: FDA5 12FC F391 3740 E0AE BDB6 8FE2 FC0A D44B 4A73
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: air...@li...
> > > [mailto:air...@li...]On Behalf Of
> > > Jerry Shenk
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:50 PM
> > > Cc: 'airjack-users'
> > > Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > No no, wasn't meaning to be pestering.
> > >=20
> > > I ran into Joshua at SANS in DC (Washington, not DefCon;). =20
> > > Did he make
> > > a LEAP presentation?  Reading some of the reviews, it was=20
> > > pretty bad but
> > > sometimes people complain way too much.
> > >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Abaddon [mailto:ab...@80...]=20
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:50 AM
> > > To: Jerry Shenk
> > > Cc: 'airjack-users'
> > > Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > yeah, I meant to put the gpl license stuff in each file last=20
> > > night, and
> > > fix my makefiles, but that didn't end up happening...to tell you
> > > the truth here is what happens every day...I goto work, I write=20
> > > lots of code
> > > (wireless code at that), by the end of the day I'm drained=20
> > > and the last
> > > thing I want to do is open up my laptop...this has been the slow
> > > down (that and something I've recently discovered that closely
> > > resembles a social life)...
> > >=20
> > > I do realize that lots of people are waiting, I do apologize for
> > > the delays...that is, unfortunately the nature of free software,
> > > all my other work (the kind that pays my bills) takes precedence,
> > > because I gotta pay the bills...
> > >=20
> > > I will do my best to get it out in some form or another tonight,
> > > late tonight, and in anonymous cvs not yet on the main site...
> > >=20
> > > --Abaddon
> > >=20
> > > p.s. keep pestering me, I do respond well to nagging...
> > >=20
> > > On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 12:40, Jerry Shenk wrote:
> > > > The worlds waits in anticipation.........
> > > >=20
> > > > ;)
> > > >=20
> > > > How did DefCon go?  I was watching the notes page hoping for
> > > > info.=20
> > > That
> > > > seems like a great idea if people would use it.
> > > >=20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: air...@li...
> > > > [mailto:air...@li...] On Behalf Of
> > > Abaddon
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:33 AM
> > > > To: Fran6
> > > > Cc: airjack-users
> > > > Subject: Re: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > not airjack-1, which is what you're using...give me a few=20
> > > hours to get
> > > > the licensing and makefiles in order and ill put out the
> > > > airjack-2 release as promissed...
> > > >=20
> > > > --Ababddon
> > > >=20
> > > > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:56, Fran6 wrote:
> > > > > hi,
> > > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > I'm new at using airjack, when I insmod airjack, I=20
> can sniff in
> > > > monitor=20
> > > > > mode without any problem. But can airjack be configured=20
> > > in "normal"=20
> > > > > modes like ad-hoc or associated with an AP ?
> > > > >=20
> > > > > I tryed to use tools provided in v0.6.4 :
> > > > > # ./setmac aj0 00:09:5B:63:9D:D7
> > > > > ioctl: SIOCSIFHWADDR: operation not supported
> > > > > ??
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> > > > >=20
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RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Abaddon <ab...@80...>]

even PEAP isn't a cure-all, the broadcast key still makes them
vulnerable to wepweggie style attacks, and much more, Cisco's security
(as well as everyone else's in the 802.11 field for that matter) leaves
much to be desired...

--Abaddon

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 09:13, Joshua Wright wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>=20
> I made the LEAP presentation, and got a Cisco PSIRT advisory out of
> the deal:
>=20
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sn-20030802-leap.shtml
>=20
> It's pretty lame on Cisco's behalf.  I'm trying to get them to tell
> customers that PEAP is a better implementation than LEAP.  Despite
> the fact that everyone I talk to at Cisco SWEARS up and down that
> they "don't push LEAP on customers, customers choose LEAP over PEAP"
> (which is a big crock), Cisco won't acknowledge that USERS ARE
> STUPID, and will choose weak passwords despite their administrators
> best intentions.
>=20
> <sigh>
>=20
> - -Joshua Wright
> Senior Network and Security Architect
> Johnson & Wales University
> Jos...@jw...=20
> http://home.jwu.edu/jwright/
>=20
> pgpkey: http://home.jwu.edu/jwright/pgpkey.htm
> fingerprint: FDA5 12FC F391 3740 E0AE BDB6 8FE2 FC0A D44B 4A73
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: air...@li...
> > [mailto:air...@li...]On Behalf Of
> > Jerry Shenk
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:50 PM
> > Cc: 'airjack-users'
> > Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> >=20
> >=20
> > No no, wasn't meaning to be pestering.
> >=20
> > I ran into Joshua at SANS in DC (Washington, not DefCon;). =20
> > Did he make
> > a LEAP presentation?  Reading some of the reviews, it was=20
> > pretty bad but
> > sometimes people complain way too much.
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abaddon [mailto:ab...@80...]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:50 AM
> > To: Jerry Shenk
> > Cc: 'airjack-users'
> > Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> >=20
> >=20
> > yeah, I meant to put the gpl license stuff in each file last=20
> > night, and
> > fix my makefiles, but that didn't end up happening...to tell you
> > the truth here is what happens every day...I goto work, I write=20
> > lots of code
> > (wireless code at that), by the end of the day I'm drained=20
> > and the last
> > thing I want to do is open up my laptop...this has been the slow
> > down (that and something I've recently discovered that closely
> > resembles a social life)...
> >=20
> > I do realize that lots of people are waiting, I do apologize for
> > the delays...that is, unfortunately the nature of free software,
> > all my other work (the kind that pays my bills) takes precedence,
> > because I gotta pay the bills...
> >=20
> > I will do my best to get it out in some form or another tonight,
> > late tonight, and in anonymous cvs not yet on the main site...
> >=20
> > --Abaddon
> >=20
> > p.s. keep pestering me, I do respond well to nagging...
> >=20
> > On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 12:40, Jerry Shenk wrote:
> > > The worlds waits in anticipation.........
> > >=20
> > > ;)
> > >=20
> > > How did DefCon go?  I was watching the notes page hoping for
> > > info.=20
> > That
> > > seems like a great idea if people would use it.
> > >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: air...@li...
> > > [mailto:air...@li...] On Behalf Of
> > Abaddon
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:33 AM
> > > To: Fran6
> > > Cc: airjack-users
> > > Subject: Re: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > not airjack-1, which is what you're using...give me a few=20
> > hours to get
> > > the licensing and makefiles in order and ill put out the
> > > airjack-2 release as promissed...
> > >=20
> > > --Ababddon
> > >=20
> > > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:56, Fran6 wrote:
> > > > hi,
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > I'm new at using airjack, when I insmod airjack, I can sniff in
> > > monitor=20
> > > > mode without any problem. But can airjack be configured=20
> > in "normal"=20
> > > > modes like ad-hoc or associated with an AP ?
> > > >=20
> > > > I tryed to use tools provided in v0.6.4 :
> > > > # ./setmac aj0 00:09:5B:63:9D:D7
> > > > ioctl: SIOCSIFHWADDR: operation not supported
> > > > ??
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
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RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Joshua W. <Jos...@jw...>]

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I made the LEAP presentation, and got a Cisco PSIRT advisory out of
the deal:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sn-20030802-leap.shtml

It's pretty lame on Cisco's behalf.  I'm trying to get them to tell
customers that PEAP is a better implementation than LEAP.  Despite
the fact that everyone I talk to at Cisco SWEARS up and down that
they "don't push LEAP on customers, customers choose LEAP over PEAP"
(which is a big crock), Cisco won't acknowledge that USERS ARE
STUPID, and will choose weak passwords despite their administrators
best intentions.

<sigh>

- -Joshua Wright
Senior Network and Security Architect
Johnson & Wales University
Jos...@jw...=20
http://home.jwu.edu/jwright/

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: air...@li...
> [mailto:air...@li...]On Behalf Of
> Jerry Shenk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:50 PM
> Cc: 'airjack-users'
> Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
>=20
>=20
> No no, wasn't meaning to be pestering.
>=20
> I ran into Joshua at SANS in DC (Washington, not DefCon;). =20
> Did he make
> a LEAP presentation?  Reading some of the reviews, it was=20
> pretty bad but
> sometimes people complain way too much.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abaddon [mailto:ab...@80...]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:50 AM
> To: Jerry Shenk
> Cc: 'airjack-users'
> Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
>=20
>=20
> yeah, I meant to put the gpl license stuff in each file last=20
> night, and
> fix my makefiles, but that didn't end up happening...to tell you
> the truth here is what happens every day...I goto work, I write=20
> lots of code
> (wireless code at that), by the end of the day I'm drained=20
> and the last
> thing I want to do is open up my laptop...this has been the slow
> down (that and something I've recently discovered that closely
> resembles a social life)...
>=20
> I do realize that lots of people are waiting, I do apologize for
> the delays...that is, unfortunately the nature of free software,
> all my other work (the kind that pays my bills) takes precedence,
> because I gotta pay the bills...
>=20
> I will do my best to get it out in some form or another tonight,
> late tonight, and in anonymous cvs not yet on the main site...
>=20
> --Abaddon
>=20
> p.s. keep pestering me, I do respond well to nagging...
>=20
> On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 12:40, Jerry Shenk wrote:
> > The worlds waits in anticipation.........
> >=20
> > ;)
> >=20
> > How did DefCon go?  I was watching the notes page hoping for
> > info.=20
> That
> > seems like a great idea if people would use it.
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: air...@li...
> > [mailto:air...@li...] On Behalf Of
> Abaddon
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:33 AM
> > To: Fran6
> > Cc: airjack-users
> > Subject: Re: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> >=20
> >=20
> > not airjack-1, which is what you're using...give me a few=20
> hours to get
> > the licensing and makefiles in order and ill put out the
> > airjack-2 release as promissed...
> >=20
> > --Ababddon
> >=20
> > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:56, Fran6 wrote:
> > > hi,
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > I'm new at using airjack, when I insmod airjack, I can sniff in
> > monitor=20
> > > mode without any problem. But can airjack be configured=20
> in "normal"=20
> > > modes like ad-hoc or associated with an AP ?
> > >=20
> > > I tryed to use tools provided in v0.6.4 :
> > > # ./setmac aj0 00:09:5B:63:9D:D7
> > > ioctl: SIOCSIFHWADDR: operation not supported
> > > ??
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
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[Airjack-users] Defcon slides

[Rakesh A. <rak...@ya...>]

Hi,
          I know you are still working on the GPL licenses, makefiles etc for Airjack2 before you can release it, but I was wondering if you make your presentation slides available at your site. I am eager to know about the new functionalities that you have added!
 
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[Frederic R. <fr...@pe...>]

Hi,

I can successfully run wlan_jack using my DLink Prism2 card and it =
causes a DoS to my client machine but when using wlan_jack with an =
Orinoco, the client machine seems unaffected. =20

I'm pretty sure i had this working a while back but wanted to verify =
that it was indeed possible to use wlan_jack with an Orinoco card?

thanks,

fred

RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Abaddon <ab...@80...>]

you missed out, it was lots of fun...there will probably be a similar
wireless lineup at toorcon next month (myself and maybe some of the
others from the panel)...no solid plans yet, but if thats easier to make
it to you should check it out...

--Abaddon

On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 14:16, Jerry Shenk wrote:
> It was reviews of the con in general.  There were non for your talk.
> Most of 'em were related to the fire marshal's, why the fire
> marshal's..., etc.  Some were actually about the talks but it was pretty
> minimal.  I wasn't there.

RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Jerry S. <js...@de...>]

It was reviews of the con in general.  There were non for your talk.
Most of 'em were related to the fire marshal's, why the fire
marshal's..., etc.  Some were actually about the talks but it was pretty
minimal.  I wasn't there.

-----Original Message-----
From: air...@li...
[mailto:air...@li...] On Behalf Of Abaddon
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:32 AM
To: Jerry Shenk
Cc: 'airjack-users'
Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools


yeah he released the LEAP stuff, and don't worry, I wasn't being
sarcastic I really do respond well to nagging...

as for reviews, I dunno, I've not seen any, I know a lot of people were
pissed they couldn't get it, that was the theme of this years defcon
(issues with the fire Martial actually counting heads this year), but
can you link me on reviews of the talk (or were talking about the con in
general), I like feedback negative as well as positive (I usually know
what I did wrong, I just wanna see if you knew)...

--Abaddon

On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 13:49, Jerry Shenk wrote:
> No no, wasn't meaning to be pestering.
> 
> I ran into Joshua at SANS in DC (Washington, not DefCon;).  Did he
make
> a LEAP presentation?  Reading some of the reviews, it was pretty bad
but
> sometimes people complain way too much.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abaddon [mailto:ab...@80...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:50 AM
> To: Jerry Shenk
> Cc: 'airjack-users'
> Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> 
> 
> yeah, I meant to put the gpl license stuff in each file last night,
and
> fix my makefiles, but that didn't end up happening...to tell you the
> truth here is what happens every day...I goto work, I write lots of
code
> (wireless code at that), by the end of the day I'm drained and the
last
> thing I want to do is open up my laptop...this has been the slow down
> (that and something I've recently discovered that closely resembles a
> social life)...
> 
> I do realize that lots of people are waiting, I do apologize for the
> delays...that is, unfortunately the nature of free software, all my
> other work (the kind that pays my bills) takes precedence, because I
> gotta pay the bills...
> 
> I will do my best to get it out in some form or another tonight, late
> tonight, and in anonymous cvs not yet on the main site...
> 
> --Abaddon
> 
> p.s. keep pestering me, I do respond well to nagging...
> 
> On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 12:40, Jerry Shenk wrote:
> > The worlds waits in anticipation.........
> > 
> > ;)
> > 
> > How did DefCon go?  I was watching the notes page hoping for info.
> That
> > seems like a great idea if people would use it.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: air...@li...
> > [mailto:air...@li...] On Behalf Of
> Abaddon
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:33 AM
> > To: Fran6
> > Cc: airjack-users
> > Subject: Re: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> > 
> > 
> > not airjack-1, which is what you're using...give me a few hours to
get
> > the licensing and makefiles in order and ill put out the airjack-2
> > release as promissed...
> > 
> > --Ababddon
> > 
> > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:56, Fran6 wrote:
> > > hi,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm new at using airjack, when I insmod airjack, I can sniff in
> > monitor 
> > > mode without any problem. But can airjack be configured in
"normal" 
> > > modes like ad-hoc or associated with an AP ?
> > > 
> > > I tryed to use tools provided in v0.6.4 :
> > > # ./setmac aj0 00:09:5B:63:9D:D7
> > > ioctl: SIOCSIFHWADDR: operation not supported
> > > ??
> > > 
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RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Abaddon <ab...@80...>]

yeah he released the LEAP stuff, and don't worry, I wasn't being
sarcastic I really do respond well to nagging...

as for reviews, I dunno, I've not seen any, I know a lot of people were
pissed they couldn't get it, that was the theme of this years defcon
(issues with the fire Martial actually counting heads this year), but
can you link me on reviews of the talk (or were talking about the con in
general), I like feedback negative as well as positive (I usually know
what I did wrong, I just wanna see if you knew)...

--Abaddon

On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 13:49, Jerry Shenk wrote:
> No no, wasn't meaning to be pestering.
>=20
> I ran into Joshua at SANS in DC (Washington, not DefCon;).  Did he make
> a LEAP presentation?  Reading some of the reviews, it was pretty bad but
> sometimes people complain way too much.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abaddon [mailto:ab...@80...]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:50 AM
> To: Jerry Shenk
> Cc: 'airjack-users'
> Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
>=20
>=20
> yeah, I meant to put the gpl license stuff in each file last night, and
> fix my makefiles, but that didn't end up happening...to tell you the
> truth here is what happens every day...I goto work, I write lots of code
> (wireless code at that), by the end of the day I'm drained and the last
> thing I want to do is open up my laptop...this has been the slow down
> (that and something I've recently discovered that closely resembles a
> social life)...
>=20
> I do realize that lots of people are waiting, I do apologize for the
> delays...that is, unfortunately the nature of free software, all my
> other work (the kind that pays my bills) takes precedence, because I
> gotta pay the bills...
>=20
> I will do my best to get it out in some form or another tonight, late
> tonight, and in anonymous cvs not yet on the main site...
>=20
> --Abaddon
>=20
> p.s. keep pestering me, I do respond well to nagging...
>=20
> On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 12:40, Jerry Shenk wrote:
> > The worlds waits in anticipation.........
> >=20
> > ;)
> >=20
> > How did DefCon go?  I was watching the notes page hoping for info.
> That
> > seems like a great idea if people would use it.
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: air...@li...
> > [mailto:air...@li...] On Behalf Of
> Abaddon
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:33 AM
> > To: Fran6
> > Cc: airjack-users
> > Subject: Re: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> >=20
> >=20
> > not airjack-1, which is what you're using...give me a few hours to get
> > the licensing and makefiles in order and ill put out the airjack-2
> > release as promissed...
> >=20
> > --Ababddon
> >=20
> > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:56, Fran6 wrote:
> > > hi,
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > I'm new at using airjack, when I insmod airjack, I can sniff in
> > monitor=20
> > > mode without any problem. But can airjack be configured in "normal"=20
> > > modes like ad-hoc or associated with an AP ?
> > >=20
> > > I tryed to use tools provided in v0.6.4 :
> > > # ./setmac aj0 00:09:5B:63:9D:D7
> > > ioctl: SIOCSIFHWADDR: operation not supported
> > > ??
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
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RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Jerry S. <js...@de...>]

No no, wasn't meaning to be pestering.

I ran into Joshua at SANS in DC (Washington, not DefCon;).  Did he make
a LEAP presentation?  Reading some of the reviews, it was pretty bad but
sometimes people complain way too much.

-----Original Message-----
From: Abaddon [mailto:ab...@80...] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:50 AM
To: Jerry Shenk
Cc: 'airjack-users'
Subject: RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools


yeah, I meant to put the gpl license stuff in each file last night, and
fix my makefiles, but that didn't end up happening...to tell you the
truth here is what happens every day...I goto work, I write lots of code
(wireless code at that), by the end of the day I'm drained and the last
thing I want to do is open up my laptop...this has been the slow down
(that and something I've recently discovered that closely resembles a
social life)...

I do realize that lots of people are waiting, I do apologize for the
delays...that is, unfortunately the nature of free software, all my
other work (the kind that pays my bills) takes precedence, because I
gotta pay the bills...

I will do my best to get it out in some form or another tonight, late
tonight, and in anonymous cvs not yet on the main site...

--Abaddon

p.s. keep pestering me, I do respond well to nagging...

On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 12:40, Jerry Shenk wrote:
> The worlds waits in anticipation.........
> 
> ;)
> 
> How did DefCon go?  I was watching the notes page hoping for info.
That
> seems like a great idea if people would use it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: air...@li...
> [mailto:air...@li...] On Behalf Of
Abaddon
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:33 AM
> To: Fran6
> Cc: airjack-users
> Subject: Re: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
> 
> 
> not airjack-1, which is what you're using...give me a few hours to get
> the licensing and makefiles in order and ill put out the airjack-2
> release as promissed...
> 
> --Ababddon
> 
> On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:56, Fran6 wrote:
> > hi,
> > 
> > 
> > I'm new at using airjack, when I insmod airjack, I can sniff in
> monitor 
> > mode without any problem. But can airjack be configured in "normal" 
> > modes like ad-hoc or associated with an AP ?
> > 
> > I tryed to use tools provided in v0.6.4 :
> > # ./setmac aj0 00:09:5B:63:9D:D7
> > ioctl: SIOCSIFHWADDR: operation not supported
> > ??
> > 
> > 
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RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Abaddon <ab...@80...>]

yeah, I meant to put the gpl license stuff in each file last night, and
fix my makefiles, but that didn't end up happening...to tell you the
truth here is what happens every day...I goto work, I write lots of code
(wireless code at that), by the end of the day I'm drained and the last
thing I want to do is open up my laptop...this has been the slow down
(that and something I've recently discovered that closely resembles a
social life)...

I do realize that lots of people are waiting, I do apologize for the
delays...that is, unfortunately the nature of free software, all my
other work (the kind that pays my bills) takes precedence, because I
gotta pay the bills...

I will do my best to get it out in some form or another tonight, late
tonight, and in anonymous cvs not yet on the main site...

--Abaddon

p.s. keep pestering me, I do respond well to nagging...

On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 12:40, Jerry Shenk wrote:
> The worlds waits in anticipation.........
>=20
> ;)
>=20
> How did DefCon go?  I was watching the notes page hoping for info.  That
> seems like a great idea if people would use it.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: air...@li...
> [mailto:air...@li...] On Behalf Of Abaddon
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:33 AM
> To: Fran6
> Cc: airjack-users
> Subject: Re: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools
>=20
>=20
> not airjack-1, which is what you're using...give me a few hours to get
> the licensing and makefiles in order and ill put out the airjack-2
> release as promissed...
>=20
> --Ababddon
>=20
> On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:56, Fran6 wrote:
> > hi,
> >=20
> >=20
> > I'm new at using airjack, when I insmod airjack, I can sniff in
> monitor=20
> > mode without any problem. But can airjack be configured in "normal"=20
> > modes like ad-hoc or associated with an AP ?
> >=20
> > I tryed to use tools provided in v0.6.4 :
> > # ./setmac aj0 00:09:5B:63:9D:D7
> > ioctl: SIOCSIFHWADDR: operation not supported
> > ??
> >=20
> >=20
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RE: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Jerry S. <js...@de...>]

The worlds waits in anticipation.........

;)

How did DefCon go?  I was watching the notes page hoping for info.  That
seems like a great idea if people would use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: air...@li...
[mailto:air...@li...] On Behalf Of Abaddon
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:33 AM
To: Fran6
Cc: airjack-users
Subject: Re: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools


not airjack-1, which is what you're using...give me a few hours to get
the licensing and makefiles in order and ill put out the airjack-2
release as promissed...

--Ababddon

On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:56, Fran6 wrote:
> hi,
> 
> 
> I'm new at using airjack, when I insmod airjack, I can sniff in
monitor 
> mode without any problem. But can airjack be configured in "normal" 
> modes like ad-hoc or associated with an AP ?
> 
> I tryed to use tools provided in v0.6.4 :
> # ./setmac aj0 00:09:5B:63:9D:D7
> ioctl: SIOCSIFHWADDR: operation not supported
> ??
> 
> 
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Re: [Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Abaddon <ab...@80...>]

not airjack-1, which is what you're using...give me a few hours to get
the licensing and makefiles in order and ill put out the airjack-2
release as promissed...

--Ababddon

On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 04:56, Fran6 wrote:
> hi,
>=20
>=20
> I'm new at using airjack, when I insmod airjack, I can sniff in monitor=20
> mode without any problem. But can airjack be configured in "normal"=20
> modes like ad-hoc or associated with an AP ?
>=20
> I tryed to use tools provided in v0.6.4 :
> # ./setmac aj0 00:09:5B:63:9D:D7
> ioctl: SIOCSIFHWADDR: operation not supported
> ??
>=20
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[Airjack-users] airjack functions and its tools

[Fran6 <fr...@li...>]

hi,


I'm new at using airjack, when I insmod airjack, I can sniff in monitor 
mode without any problem. But can airjack be configured in "normal" 
modes like ad-hoc or associated with an AP ?

I tryed to use tools provided in v0.6.4 :
# ./setmac aj0 00:09:5B:63:9D:D7
ioctl: SIOCSIFHWADDR: operation not supported
??

[Airjack-users] RE: [Airjack-user-devel] call for feature requests

[Abaddon <ab...@80...>]

yeah all of that went without saying, pretty much if you are in
airjack-tx mode then the card's driver is going to try as hard as it can
for that chipset to get it exactly as you asked for it, and if thats not
enough there are ioctl's to read and write directly to the cards memory,
so, like on many cards, they store the beacon frame in one fid block on
the card, in the same location, if you tweak it with AUX there then you
can get it to transmit that as if it were the beacon...

on other cards however I expect it to be a lot easier, like say the
atheros a/b/g cards after I'm finished playing with ARM firmware (and
undoubtedly killing lots of cards)...

so basically thats still the core functionality, and sense im wanting to
make this easy to test things then this is one of my big priorities
already...

and if id get my lazy ass to get you guys something working then you'd
have seen this already, so my bad ;)...it really is coming though, its
just hard to fight off the shiny things after im tired from working all
day...

oh, and btw, the airjack-announce mailing list is mostly one where i
send you receive, not really ment for discussion on that one, just for
announcements...

--Abaddon


On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 12:54, Joshua Wright wrote:
> It would be great if there were a function (through accessing the AUX
> port, or searching the BAP after firmare mangling) to be able to change
> arbitrary portions of frames we would like to send.  I'd like to be able
> to set arbitrary BSS timestamps in beacon frames, for example, or to be
> able to play with oddball control frames or the like.
>=20
> Maybe more work than it's worth on the Intersil chipset, but I though I
> would get my 2 cents in. :)
>=20
> -Joshua Wright
> Jos...@jw...
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: air...@li...=20
> > [mailto:air...@li...] On=20
> > Behalf Of Abaddon
> > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:51 PM
> > To: airjack-announce; airjack-user-devel; airjack-users; airjack-users
> > Subject: [Airjack-user-devel] call for feature requests
> >=20
> >=20
> > this is the time to make a feature request...go all out and=20
> > demand crazy things that you wouldnt otherwise ask for, i=20
> > want to know what the users of this are going to want...
> >=20
> > i am especially interested in hearing from those of you who=20
> > write or maintain wireless related projects, or are=20
> > interested in developing wireless tools that might use the=20
> > AirJack drivers...
> >=20
> > i would also like to get an enumeration of the various 802.11=20
> > devices that people would like to see supported...
> >=20
> > if you would like to request support for an 802.11 device=20
> > please post to one of the lists, include "feature request" in=20
> > your posting so i can sort it out faster, and include the=20
> > chipset it uses if you know it, and links to any existing=20
> > opensource software that uses it (or email me developers docs=20
> > for the hardware)...
> >=20
> > please note however that i will not sign any NDA's for=20
> > developers docs that would restrict my release or use of the=20
> > drivers or my release of information about the hardware=20
> > itself (so in other words it cant be too useful an NDA)...i=20
> > am already under enough NDA's to kill a small horse and id=20
> > like to not add to that...also, please note that i will not=20
> > accept any documentation that would normally require an NDA=20
> > to get unless the person offering it is authorized somehow to=20
> > give me access to the document (so no "133+ h4x0r'ing" for=20
> > the docs), you know who you are out there, so to you, thanks=20
> > but no thanks...
> >=20
> > thanks...
> >=20
> > --Abaddon
> >=20

[Airjack-users] RE: [Airjack-user-devel] call for feature requests

[Joshua W. <Jos...@jw...>]

It would be great if there were a function (through accessing the AUX
port, or searching the BAP after firmare mangling) to be able to change
arbitrary portions of frames we would like to send.  I'd like to be able
to set arbitrary BSS timestamps in beacon frames, for example, or to be
able to play with oddball control frames or the like.

Maybe more work than it's worth on the Intersil chipset, but I though I
would get my 2 cents in. :)

-Joshua Wright
Jos...@jw...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: air...@li...=20
> [mailto:air...@li...] On=20
> Behalf Of Abaddon
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:51 PM
> To: airjack-announce; airjack-user-devel; airjack-users; airjack-users
> Subject: [Airjack-user-devel] call for feature requests
>=20
>=20
> this is the time to make a feature request...go all out and=20
> demand crazy things that you wouldnt otherwise ask for, i=20
> want to know what the users of this are going to want...
>=20
> i am especially interested in hearing from those of you who=20
> write or maintain wireless related projects, or are=20
> interested in developing wireless tools that might use the=20
> AirJack drivers...
>=20
> i would also like to get an enumeration of the various 802.11=20
> devices that people would like to see supported...
>=20
> if you would like to request support for an 802.11 device=20
> please post to one of the lists, include "feature request" in=20
> your posting so i can sort it out faster, and include the=20
> chipset it uses if you know it, and links to any existing=20
> opensource software that uses it (or email me developers docs=20
> for the hardware)...
>=20
> please note however that i will not sign any NDA's for=20
> developers docs that would restrict my release or use of the=20
> drivers or my release of information about the hardware=20
> itself (so in other words it cant be too useful an NDA)...i=20
> am already under enough NDA's to kill a small horse and id=20
> like to not add to that...also, please note that i will not=20
> accept any documentation that would normally require an NDA=20
> to get unless the person offering it is authorized somehow to=20
> give me access to the document (so no "133+ h4x0r'ing" for=20
> the docs), you know who you are out there, so to you, thanks=20
> but no thanks...
>=20
> thanks...
>=20
> --Abaddon
>=20